SoLLiZ Posted August 28, 2005 #1 Share Posted August 28, 2005 i don't have my bible handy at the moment but i remember a story where jesus tells his disciples (traveling with 5 i believe) to go and get weapons, and to sell their clothes if they have to. the disciples reply that they have 2 swords and jesus says that is enough. when jesus is arrested in the garden of gethsamene(sp) what does peter do? he cuts off the ear of a roman soldier. any chance they weren't disciples so much as they were armed bodyguards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*S.T.R.*~ Posted August 28, 2005 #2 Share Posted August 28, 2005 A little of both I think! Very interesting comment though. But I think that there main reason for being with Jesus was to help him spread his word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLLiZ Posted August 28, 2005 Author #3 Share Posted August 28, 2005 but did they really do this, or was it just after his death? they could have just been trying to gain fame for themselves, hence all the fueding between the early churches and how much of christianity is based on myth and total b.s. anyway well, like the site is called, i'm sure this will always be an unsolved mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaginCajun Posted August 28, 2005 #4 Share Posted August 28, 2005 (edited) check this link it explains some more on his body guard: http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1120921538 Edited August 29, 2005 by RaginCajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLLiZ Posted August 28, 2005 Author #5 Share Posted August 28, 2005 i would check it out, but i got bunk ass dial up (technical term) and it was taking forever, but from the header it reminds me of something from the bob and tom show, where some guest said arnold should play jesus because of his catchphrases. funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~*S.T.R.*~ Posted August 28, 2005 #6 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I think that was the funniest thing I have ever seen. Everyone must chech that out! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Paranoid Android Posted August 28, 2005 #7 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Quality linkage And to answer the original post, it's an interesting point. I can't think of a passage where Jesus tells them to buy weapons (though that doesn't mean it's not there........). I think Jesus' messages of love dispel the idea that he was a homeboy hanging out with his hoods. But that's just my opinion. Regards, PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLLiZ Posted August 28, 2005 Author #8 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Quality linkage And to answer the original post, it's an interesting point. I can't think of a passage where Jesus tells them to buy weapons (though that doesn't mean it's not there........). I think Jesus' messages of love dispel the idea that he was a homeboy hanging out with his hoods. But that's just my opinion. Regards, PA 813963[/snapback] lol, the gangsta aspect is just my own warped sense of humor. but he was from the line of david right? the line of kings? and with rome controling the area, maybe he feared he was a target? i'm just bringing up the bodyguard aspect out of curiosity and to see what other people think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claizen Posted August 29, 2005 #9 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I thought that Jesus disaproved of Peter's violence at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted August 29, 2005 #10 Share Posted August 29, 2005 A revolutionary/rebel against the establishment, yes. Gangsta? Hmm, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted August 29, 2005 #11 Share Posted August 29, 2005 A revolutionary/rebel against the establishment Don't think so, this is the man that said the law would not change by a tit or tittle. Doesn't sound revolutionary/rebel to me, more like "status quo"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted August 29, 2005 #12 Share Posted August 29, 2005 My ass it's staus quo. There's a difference between God's law and man's law. Jesus had no time for man's law, no matter how glazed over it appear to coincide with God's law. And it was man's law, not God's, that Jesus revolutionized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted August 29, 2005 #13 Share Posted August 29, 2005 The law Jesus referred to (or at least the fictional words that the author of the gospel, a non-witness writing long after the last witness died, had him speak) referred to Moses law, the law given by G-d to his people. I said status quo and that is what I meant. Doesn't matter anyway, mythology is just mythology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Paranoid Android Posted August 29, 2005 #14 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I think it's a matter of the letter of the Law vs. the spirit of the Law, which is why Jesus maintained that the Law could be summed up as Love God, Love your neighbour. (though I am getting off topic here - sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted August 30, 2005 #15 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Being tha He was the Messiah and Son of God, keping the laws of Moses, i.e. God's law, is exactly what He would do no? The Hebrew people had elaborated on those laws, to suit themselves, and it was that He changed and criticized them for. No doubt if He were to return today, He'd sa much the same about every single denomination of Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lismore Posted August 30, 2005 #16 Share Posted August 30, 2005 when jesus is arrested in the garden of gethsamene(sp) what does peter do? he cuts off the ear of a roman soldier. 813760[/snapback] My favorite part of that story is when Jesus put the ear back on- healed the man completely. We can all cause hurt, but can we all heal the hurting person again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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