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Cosntantly Monitered

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Has anyone ever heard that the government is always monitoring everything? Phones, computers, radio's, even this? I've heard of a secret underground base that listens to phone calls and starts recording when chosen words (like bomb or president) and then gets analyzed later. I'm pretty freaked out about it. They could be watching right NOW!

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Why? Are you doing something that you shouldn't?

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There is not enough people in the world to track and listen to every single phone call worldwide. Phone companys do record phone calls using systems, so if you want a phone log, you can go and receive it, but Im not sure to the exact degree that they hold every persons phone calls. I think it's a benefit you might be able to pay for.

So in short... no, the government does not scan all phone calls / e-mails / radios and the such. HOWEVER, they do have the power to do it, and they WOULD do it, if for some reason you were under surveillance.

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Phone companys do record phone calls using systems, so if you want a phone log, you can go and receive it, but Im not sure to the exact degree that they hold every persons phone calls. I think it's a benefit you might be able to pay for.

Incorrect. Phone companies have a pay per use "call trace" type of service that can be activated immediatlely after hanging up. This logs such information as originating #, location and length of call. This information would not be readily available to the general public but would require a warrant to release due to privacy laws.

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Incorrect. Phone companies have a pay per use "call trace" type of service that can be activated immediatlely after hanging up. This logs such information as originating #, location and length of call. This information would not be readily available to the general public but would require a warrant to release due to privacy laws.

Thanks for correcting me. I know the government has a way to see your phone log. They would more or less record every call.

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heh, paronoia.

I doubt that they actually do do that. as what was stated before, that'd only happen if you are under survallence for some reason and the police are trying to catch you red handed. but yeah, they'd need a warrent first, and they usually last only 2 weeks, sometimes.

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heh, 'do do' :lol:

Edited by Leliel

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Isn't there some super computer called `THE BEAST` that records and then searches for phrases or keywords...Anyway, that`s what the local 'cult' leader, read youth group, says...Then I thought, that computer would have to have some seriously wicked voice recognition software...Damn half baked theories always spread like a disease among the weak first.

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yes, they have a search engine that searches everyone's email for a keyword...my Political & Economics teacher told us

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I think it seems highly unlikely that the government could do this, it seems a little too farfetched. Plus they would be able to stop the majority of domestic terrorism and criminal acts.

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This thread seems more suited to the conspiracy forum to me :hmm:

I'd say judging by the fact that people are still able to get away with organisingextremeist attacks, viewing child pornography and organising internet suicicde packs the government are not monitoring everything.

And if they are they are doing a very poor job

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This thread seems more suited to the conspiracy forum to me :hmm:

agreed :yes:

Azalin, perhaps I misunderstood when you said record. I assumed you were saying the telephone conversation was recorded. They do however keep a record of calls. Originating #, destination #, length of call. This is called billing.

I have heard and reasonably believe that its true that government agencies do monitor calls to a certain extent, but when you think of the sheer number of phone calls (both landline and cellular), email, instant messages, text messages, etc. that are sent every day. I hardly think that anything but a very small percentage ever gets monitored.

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I doubt it; we're too boring. Who'd wanna watch us constantly? The government? The governments boring in the first place.

"A closed circuit T.V., to make sure they're all safe" -

'The Fletcher Memorial Home', Pink Floyd.

Or the government could be watching us to see if we are safe... who knows? :D

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Well, I'm using voice recognition technology right now to compose this comment. And this is with a puny, consumer grade computer and consumer grade voice recognition software.

Just imagine what the government could do with a billion-dollar supercomputer and specialized software.

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well Echelon is real , and I'd imagine they have even better stuff now, that hasn't come out in the public light

with all this "terror" goin on, you'd think they'd be trying to improve these systems

http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html

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ok i dont think this is a secret (as ive seen TV shows on the subject)

what youre talking about is the job of the office of the US gov. known as the NSA

i cant say that they monitor all correspondence but they do monitor a great deal

they have super computers set up to monitor phone calls for 'key' words

as for organized crime, it has evolved over the years

meaning the criminals are all not as stupid as the used to be

john gotti never telephoned sammy gravano and told him to whack someone

im sure they have a code they use while on an open line

and to anyone with enough money and limited knowledge you can purchase a device that will let you operate a secure encrypted telephone line

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Monitoring phone calls?

*shifty eyes*

*has images of people listening in on my conversations with my boyfriend*

Boy I hope not. lol

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WOW! Lots of speculation...but do you really want to know?

Yes, the government listens to your calls, checks your email, follows you and this is worldwide and Its getting worse.

Camera everywhere, they want to know...what you are doing!

Have you heard of "On-star"? On-star is a form of the mark of the beast. They can track you (as long as your in your car) no matter where you go...

Sure, in a sense there may be some positive effects...you get stuck, in an accident, etc. just push a button and they got you, they know exactly where you are, etc.

Also, I believe this is in Germany, a store is now doing, I believe thumb prints...this the mark of the beast.

Retina scans...mark of the beast.

Have you heard about Digital Angel? They are located in Florida, they have come out with a chip, the size of rice, that they implant just under your skin. This chip is just like those chips that vets put in your dog/cats and they can put your entire info in it. If your pet is lost all they have to do is scan for the chip and guess what...if it beeps, your information comes up for them to see, same for humans.

This chip is worldwide, they have been placing this chip in england, china, some in the US. It is voluntary now...but according to the bible....will be mandatory later.

Whatever you do, DO NOT GET THIS CLIP FOR YOU OR YOUR PET! You will be dammed immediately! It's the mark of the beast.

Further, to my knowledge they that at least 3 supercomputers: england/britain, china area, US. This computer is so fast that it can do trillions of calculations in seconds. Mark of the beast.

Check this out....http://www.jvim.com

Go to their Updated Daily News....it's right on their home page. You will be shocked....

They take headlines from around the world and match them with whats in the bible.

Oh and another form of mark of the beast is....did you know that target and walmart put little tracking devices on all their merchandise and can track their items in the store. But as soon as you leave with item it stops.

They are looking for a way to extend the tracking frequency passed their doors to your house....By the way, I don't shop there.

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They could be watching right NOW!

So? You have no problem with strangers reading your post on the forum, so why be any more concerned if the government was?

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The systems name was mentioned in a previous post. It is called Eschelon. It is used by more than just the U.S. I remember that Australia is one of the several using it. What it is supposed to do is listen to an unG-dly number of messages and then redflag the ones that use certain keywords. If your phne call includes one of the keywords then an actual human listens to the message to determine it's content and intent.

It is still possible to fool the system though if you don't use any of the key words. For instance, "The chair is against the wall" could be used as code for "I'd like another beer". If beer was one of the keywords, the message could still be transmitted "under the radar" and not be detected.

I should probably shut up here before I give some idiot a stupid idea.

The chips that Wal-mart and Target are using are called RFiD tags. (Radio Frequency Identification). Supposedly they are only on large bulk items for the moment. They do invision that, in the future, you'd have one under your skin and after you did your shopping you'd just walk out of the store. The store itself would have sensers that pick up your RFiD and tell it who you are. Your purchases would have thier own individual RFiD tags to tell the store what you're taking out. Then, the store would just debit your bank account. Pretty sweet, if not for the "Mark of the Beast" conotation.

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You are not being monitored at all, it is just your imagination. Move along, nothing to see here...

<Scribbles down topic starters name>

<Turns on tape recorder>

Whatever you do, don't mind the little microphone:

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^^^ Now that's a riot!!!^^^

:w00t:

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In regards to one of my recent entries to this thread, I give you a list of keywords that are supposed to red flag your e-mail, blogs, and telephone conversations.

And Eschelon Keywords

6-28-5

The list below contains many of the keywords the Government Spooks search YOUR email and chat for.

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I'm sure if they weren't watching us, with that last post, they sure are now!!!

But I'm sure there's someone, somewhere that keeps tabs on forums like this as well.

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^

Are you kidding me?

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And... it's all legal now. Read The Patriot Act. Citizens in the US no longer have the breadth of Right to Privacy anymore.

Art imitates life? Mel Gibson's character in Conspiracy Theory being tracked by the magnetic bar code in his dollar bills and when he bought a copy of Catcher in the Rye.... that's where our tax dollars are being spent.

Email, phone calls, Microsoft fingerprinted documents, et cetera....

Mr. Cheney, Ms. Rice, et al, when you read this, know that I see and feel, firsthand, through my 18 year-old freshmen students, what you have done to an entire generation. How do you sleep at night?

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