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Tira180

Hanging Munchkin

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ya it's real go to www.gigdig.com

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where is what you're talking about? i couldn't find it. :hmm:

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Here

And no, it was just a myth. It was just an ostrich in the backround, whether they choose to believe it or not. Watch it very carefully and you'll see.

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It's supposed to be a joke. But I don't have a sense of humor unfortunately.

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It's supposed to be a joke. But I don't have a sense of humor unfortunately.

un thats not a bird

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Did I say it was a bird??

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Did I say it was a bird??

i wasn't talking to you this was to jayman

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Why then are you quoting me if you weren't talking to me?

(ok, don't answer that)

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Only on the very first edition can you see the 'munchkin'. I've never seen it, but people tell me that every other edition has been edited to look different. For example, like a bird.

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Only on the very first edition can you see the 'munchkin'. I've never seen it, but people tell me that every other edition has been edited to look different. For example, like a bird.

see thats what i been saying I have the 1989 one and it shows it

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see thats what i been saying I have the 1989 one and it shows it

there you are

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This has been disproven many times over. I'm sure for some a hanging munchkin is very amusing but there is no literal truth to it.

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dude if your going to be rude about it see if i care

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Claim: A lovelorn actor portraying one of the munchkins hanged himself on the set during the filming of The Wizard of Oz, and his death was captured on-camera and used in the final print.

Status: False.

Origins: The

so-called "munchkin suicide" scene occurs at the very end of the Tin Woodsman sequence, as Dorothy, the Scarecrow, and the Tin Woodsman head down the road on their way to the Emerald City. This sequence begins with Dorothy and the Scarecrow trying to pick fruit from the talking apple trees, encompasses their discovery of the rusted tin man and their encounter with the Wicked Witch of the West (who tries to set the Scarecrow on fire), and ends with the trio heading off to Oz in search of the Wizard. To give the indoor set used in this sequence a more "outdoors" feel, several birds of various sizes were borrowed from the Los Angeles Zoo and allowed to roam the set. (A peacock, for example, can be seen wandering around just outside the Tin Woodsman's shack while Dorothy and the Scarecrow attempt to revive him with oil.) At the very end of this sequence, as the three main characters move down the road and away from the camera, one of the larger birds (often said to be an emu, but more probably a crane) standing at the back of the set moves around and spreads its wings. No munchkin, no hanging -- just a big bird.

The unusual movement in the background of the scene described above was noticed years ago, and it was often attributed to a stagehand's accidentally being caught on the set after the cameras started rolling (or, more spectacularly, a stagehand's falling out of a prop tree into the scene). With the advent of home video, viewing audiences were able to rewind and replay the scene in question, view it in slow-motion, and look at individual frames in the sequence (all on screens smaller and less distinct than those of theaters), and imaginations ran wild. The change in focus of the rumor from a hapless stagehand to a suicidal munchkin (driven to despair over his unrequited love for a female munchkin) seems to have coincided with the heavy promotion and special video re-release of The Wizard of Oz in celebration of its 50th anniversary in 1989: someone made up the story of a diminutive actor who, suffering the pangs of unrequited love for a female "little person," decided to end it all right there on the set, and soon everyone was eager to share this special little film "secret" with others. Since (grossly exaggerated) tales of munchkin lechery and drunken misbehavior on the "Oz" set had been circulating for years (primarily spread by Judy Garland herself in television talk show appearances), the wild suicide story had some seeming background plausibility to it. (Other versions of the rumor combined elements from both explanations, such as the claim that the strange figure was actually a stagehand hanging himself.)

The logistics of this alleged hanging defy all credulity. First of all, the forest scenes in The Wizard of Oz were filmed before the Munchkinland scenes, and thus none of the munchkin actors would have been present. And whether one believes that the figure on the film is a munchkin or a stagehand, it is simply impossible that a human being could have fallen onto a set actively being used for filming, and yet none of the dozens of people present -- actors, directors, cameramen, sound technicians, light operators -- failed to notice or react to the occurrence. (The tragic incident would also had to have been overlooked by all the directors, editors, film cutters, musicians, and others who worked on the film in post-production as well.) That anyone could believe a scene featuring a real suicide would have been left intact in a classic film for over fifty years is simply incredible.

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dude if your going to be rude about it see if i care

Hardly. If I was being rude I'd call you an idiot for posting an idiotic thread that said "whooo!"

But I didn't now did I? I calmly posted that the munchkin incident had no literal truth. This is a discussion board and I have a right to say that.

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^now everybody, be nice and stop fighting or the thread will be closed down.

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Looks as if we were both wrong, it wasn't a munchkin or an ostrich, though it really is hard to tell what kind of bird it is..

Thanks justcallmefox. :tu:

Also, Tira, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them rude

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i am kidding :D i am having a bad day

how do you lock this topic

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i am kidding :D i am having a bad day

...

Alright then, I hope things get better for you. You really should make it more obvious when you're kidding though. :P

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how do you lock this topic

A mod must do it for you.

Edited by JayMan895

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I use to think it wasn't real but in some ways it can or it can't

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