__Kratos__ Posted June 20, 2006 #1 Share Posted June 20, 2006 LAHORE, Pakistan - A Pakistan man killed his three young daughters Tuesday before confessing to police, prompting one officer to shoot him dead, an investigator said. Mohammed Ashraf, 38, used a knife to cut the throats of his daughters aged 3, 5 and 9 before dawn in the eastern city of Lahore, said senior police investigator Amir Zulifquar. Ashraf then went to a police station to report his crime, and was charged with murdering his daughters and placed in a cell. "As I left the police station after questioning Mohammed Ashraf, one of my guards opened fire and killed him," Zulifquar said. The policeman who shot Ashraf was identified as Mohammed Nadeem and was taken into custody, Zulifquar said. Nadeem told investigators that he killed Ashraf to "eliminate an animal from society," according to Zulifquar. "A person who kills innocent children deserves no mercy," Zulifquar quoted Nadeem as saying. Before his killing, Ashraf told police that he was jobless and had killed his daughters because of poverty, Zulifquar said. Ashraf's wife Sughran Bibi told reporters that she didn't hear her daughters' cries and that her husband had woken her up after "committing the heinous crime for which I will never forgive him." Nadeem, the policeman, will face court for a ruling on whether he should be charged with murder or not, Zulifquar said. No date has been set for when he will appear in court. If convicted, he faces the death penalty. Source -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He should be given a medal with a pat on the back; not be charged with murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash_Tyagi Posted June 20, 2006 #2 Share Posted June 20, 2006 well normally i'd agree, except the guy had turned himself in, so they should have let him stand trial at least, let the courts deal with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted June 20, 2006 #3 Share Posted June 20, 2006 He should be given a medal with a pat on the back; not be charged with murder. I don't blame the guy one bit. Emotion is a powerful thing. Imagine having to be the one to clean up this sicko's mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoszerg Posted June 20, 2006 #4 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I would have shot the guy dead also but made him suffer a little. Even if he did turn himself in. Any monster who kills a child should suffer before being killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshinx Posted June 21, 2006 #5 Share Posted June 21, 2006 he should shot his knees and let him bleed to dead . that man should suffer first. good job officer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Imperfection Posted June 21, 2006 #6 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I think he got what he deserved. There is no reason why he should have ever hurt those children. I'm glad he got what was coming to him. Surely he would've got the death penalty anyway as the officer who kills him might get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted June 21, 2006 #7 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I think he got what he deserved. There is no reason why he should have ever hurt those children. I'm glad he got what was coming to him. Surely he would've got the death penalty anyway as the officer who kills him might get? I would hope he would have gotten the death penalty if the officer hadn't killed him. I hope they let the officer go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conspiracy Posted June 23, 2006 #8 Share Posted June 23, 2006 another case of someone doing the world a good deed then thrown into jail and prolly gonna die for it~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idriss Posted July 1, 2006 #9 Share Posted July 1, 2006 murder is murder no matter what this officer WILL get charged because he went against the codes of a police officer, for he could have hurt himself and others while doing this etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted July 1, 2006 #10 Share Posted July 1, 2006 It is hard for me to believe that you people are applauding a police officer exacting justice on a criminal before he is even tried in court. That is just so wrong....so I suppose then that you are in favor of the police in this country killing whoever confesses to whatever evil deed they did? What the man did is sick...the mentality that supports murder because it was a police officer doing it is equally as sick. You people need to rethink your priorities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey Reagan Posted July 1, 2006 #11 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Does Pakistani law have the circumstance of 'temporary insanity'? I hate the murder of innocent children as much as anyone, but he had turned himself in and in the eyes of the court, he stood a fair trial. Perhaps the officer was temporarily insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted July 6, 2006 #12 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Yeah I feel so sick with myself. I should be ashamed. But I'm not. They are my opinions and I stand by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idriss Posted July 7, 2006 #13 Share Posted July 7, 2006 true you are. but imagine if i went around shooting everyone that did wrong will i be a murderer or a hero??? hero i would not be supporting this just promotes it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idriss Posted July 7, 2006 #14 Share Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) here's a question: your son/daughter was stealing from a store, i saw this took out a pistol and shot them point blank DEAD now, would you consider me a hero for spreading 'justice' no i don't think so, think about that Edited July 7, 2006 by Kahrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted July 7, 2006 Author #15 Share Posted July 7, 2006 here's a question: your son/daughter was stealing from a store, i saw this took out a pistol and shot them point blank DEAD now, would you consider me a hero for spreading 'justice' no i don't think so, think about that Depends if they were threatening someone or you were the store operator and needed to protect your property. I mean, I don't have kids but if a family member went and did something stupid like that they're not exempt from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idriss Posted July 7, 2006 #16 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Depends if they were threatening someone or you were the store operator and needed to protect your property. I mean, I don't have kids but if a family member went and did something stupid like that they're not exempt from it. that's what i'm saying no i just saw them stealing and instantly killed them for it (in theory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted July 7, 2006 #17 Share Posted July 7, 2006 here's a question: your son/daughter was stealing from a store, i saw this took out a pistol and shot them point blank DEAD now, would you consider me a hero for spreading 'justice' no i don't think so, think about that Funny, I thought we were talking about molestation. I don't consider the cop that shot this guy a hero, but the man the cop shot had just killed his children, he didn't steal a candy bar. There's a difference and if you can't see that then I'm sorry for you. And if someone shot my child for just stealing then I would see them just as shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted July 7, 2006 Author #18 Share Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) that's what i'm saying no i just saw them stealing and instantly killed them for it (in theory) Killing your family and stealing are a bit different. Duh? Edited July 7, 2006 by __Kratos__ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idriss Posted July 7, 2006 #19 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Killing your family and stealing are a bit different. Duh? it was an example considering you see every killing as being justified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted July 7, 2006 Author #20 Share Posted July 7, 2006 it was an example considering you see every killing as being justified I do see it justified for murder, rape, molesting children, and stealing an entire life savings of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyfer Posted July 7, 2006 #21 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I for one am glad the b****** died. I hope he suffers. Nobody should harm an innocent child.. and to harm your own is just.. horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted July 7, 2006 #22 Share Posted July 7, 2006 it was an example considering you see every killing as being justified I don't see every killing as being justified. I don't know where you got that idea if this is addressed to me. I do see it justified if children are molested or killed. Especially by the parents. I'd want to do harm to someone who hurt my child and I think that is a mother's instinct. I don't think that what the officer did in this case was neccessarily right, but I don't hold it against him. I understand it. That's the point I'm trying to make. The man had just killed his children. I don't think he deserved any rights once he did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idriss Posted July 8, 2006 #23 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I don't see every killing as being justified. I don't know where you got that idea if this is addressed to me. I do see it justified if children are molested or killed. Especially by the parents. I'd want to do harm to someone who hurt my child and I think that is a mother's instinct. I don't think that what the officer did in this case was neccessarily right, but I don't hold it against him. I understand it. That's the point I'm trying to make. The man had just killed his children. I don't think he deserved any rights once he did that. would you do the same if it was an adult that was molested by another adult then killed no i don't think you would, sure the man did wrong im not supporting what he did but if he admitted that he did it and gave himself up to the police then every man deserves a fair trial, if i shot the man myself i would be no better because i took someone's life that makes it just as bad as the original crime (but i can understand why) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted July 8, 2006 #24 Share Posted July 8, 2006 would you do the same if it was an adult that was molested by another adult then killed no i don't think you would, sure the man did wrong im not supporting what he did but if he admitted that he did it and gave himself up to the police then every man deserves a fair trial, if i shot the man myself i would be no better because i took someone's life that makes it just as bad as the original crime (but i can understand why) You mean rape? If I was raped and then I killed the rapist, then I don't see that as being wrong. I'm not concerned with being 'better' than the criminal really, I just know human nature. I really can't say what I'd do because thank God I've never been in that situation, but I know how I'd feel and that would be murderous. And I don't think taking the life of a criminal is as bad as taking the life of an innocent. That's just the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idriss Posted July 8, 2006 #25 Share Posted July 8, 2006 You mean rape? If I was raped and then I killed the rapist, then I don't see that as being wrong. I'm not concerned with being 'better' than the criminal really, I just know human nature. I really can't say what I'd do because thank God I've never been in that situation, but I know how I'd feel and that would be murderous. And I don't think taking the life of a criminal is as bad as taking the life of an innocent. That's just the way I see it. that's o.k that's your opinion i meant say you had an adult or family member who was raped and murdered would you feel like killing them as much if it was your child? i would proberly do the same but try to kill not actually kill them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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