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Does DMT cause alien encounters ?

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One thing I’ve noticed in the past few years is that because of chemicals in our atmosphere, EL Frequencies, other causes or a combination thereof, we have had changes in the seratonin levels of many people. Other physical conditions that are more prevalent nowadays is known to be caused by a lack of another chemical in the brain. Well, there has been some speculation that because of various factors, there has been an increase in the hallucinogen DMT within the brain, and this increase has been causing hallucinations of experiences with alien beings; DMT is made naturally in the brain. Following is an excerpt from Chapter 30 of the book “Hunt for the Skinwalker” by Colm Kelleher, Ph.D., and George Knapp[brackets mine]:

Psychiatrist Rick Strassman has done experiments with DMT and monitored its effects on humans. In one of the few scientific studies of its kind, Strassman studied the effects of injecting DMT into sixty volunteers at the University of New Mexico between 1990 and 1995. Strassman was startled to discover that a large number of his subjects experienced meetings with “alien bengs” and nonhuman intelligences following injections of DMT. The details of these meetings were remarkable consistent among the subjects, though none of these experimental volunteers were allowed to compare notes prior to being interviewed.

To Strassman, the almost identical “hallucinations” experienced by different subjects in their encounters with the “aliens” seem to imply that the subjects experienced some kind of objective reality as a result of the DMT injections. He hypothesized that perhaps DMT was able to open a perceptual doorway into other “dimensions” where the human mind could meet and communicate with the denizens of these realities. In strassman’s words. He stated “I suggest DMT alters the receiving qualities of the brain, an employ a television analogy. Personal healing occurs by an enhancement of ‘contrast and focus’; invisible worlds and entity contact takes place by changing reception of ‘channels’ to include dark matter and parallel universes.”

Strassman speculates that perhaps, under certain circumstances, in certain states, the human brain might increase its levels of endogenous DMT and so make it easier for the “alien abduction” experience to take place. Or could an external agency manipulate the DMT levels in the human brain in order to make journeys to other worlds possible, or alternatively, such that the denizens of other worlds could cross over into ours?[as I mentioned above(in some cases)] Shamans, who apparently have the ability to cross over into other worlds at will, also report having DMT-like experiences.

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~ Isis

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or maybe DMT is a doorway for regression that some of us are silent victims of alien abductions.

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or maybe DMT is a doorway for regression that some of us are silent victims of alien abductions.

You know, I never thought about that before. Good observation. Something else I found out later about the experiments is that every person in the DMT study described seeing a Reptilian type entity. They individually drew what they had seen during their experience, and it was the same each time.

I believe that when people hallucinate they usually see something different according to their perception. I personally don't believe in mass hallucinations so I would have to say there's something to this.

But you are right. At least in some of the cases, maybe it IS a doorway for regression for abductees.

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~ Isis

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I'm not sure about that but i'm dead serious about myself that i might be a silent contactee.

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I'm not sure about that but i'm dead serious about myself that i might be a silent contactee.

A silent contactee? I'm sorry, does that mean you don't like to discuss it or you're not consciously aware of the abductions?

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I mean i'm curious about myself. I guess i'm not an abductee but somehow my life since birth was a little bit mysterious. And i wanted to know if that is related to UFO phenomenon.

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I mean i'm curious about myself. I guess i'm not an abductee but somehow my life since birth was a little bit mysterious. And i wanted to know if that is related to UFO phenomenon.

Do you feel comfortable describing here how your life has been mysterious?

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Do you feel comfortable describing here how your life has been mysterious?

No...it's very uncomfortable.

Anyway, i'll try to find it myself. Back to DMT.

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Has anyone described the actual origin of this 'naturally' occuring chemical (DMT) that the brain makes? Could it be, instead of an extraterrestrial experiance, the people could be having a spiritual experience? Perheps one of demonic origin which utilizes the effects of DMT to make contact? There is a strong tie between the pharmocological art and the spirit world. Our modern word "Pharmacy" or "Pharmaceutical" (basically, drugs) comes from the greek word "Pharmakeia", which in many cultures was transliterated to mean "sorcery" because sorcery involved a large amount of drug use that was done for spiritual experiences, talking to the dead, conjuring deamons, etc.

Just an alternative thought.

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Nice topic. :tu:

I have often thought about this DMT/Alien thing. The one problem I have with it being "alien", is that in order for it to be considered what we typically think of as ''alien'', it would have to be extraterrestrial (from another planet). Planets exist in our physical reality. So can these non-physical experiences really be associated with extraterrestrials?

Nice little addition John Q :)

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Nice topic. :tu:

I have often thought about this DMT/Alien thing. The one problem I have with it being "alien", is that in order for it to be considered what we typically think of as ''alien'', it would have to be extraterrestrial (from another planet). Planets exist in our physical reality. So can these non-physical experiences really be associated with extraterrestrials?

Nice little addition John Q :)

Good point, but I think the definition of Alien allows for them to be from not only distant planets, but other dimensions and forms of existance.

I think this world is too darn convenient to be not of "external design". And this DMT / Alien connection is another example of that. It becomes clear to me that the most logical explanation is that "they" seeded us here, provided the basis for civilization, and provided these "psychadellic gifts" as a sort of fuel for creativity, psychological diversity, and potentials we have not yet realized.

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Has anyone described the actual origin of this 'naturally' occuring chemical (DMT) that the brain makes? Could it be, instead of an extraterrestrial experiance, the people could be having a spiritual experience? Perheps one of demonic origin which utilizes the effects of DMT to make contact? There is a strong tie between the pharmocological art and the spirit world. Our modern word "Pharmacy" or "Pharmaceutical" (basically, drugs) comes from the greek word "Pharmakeia", which in many cultures was transliterated to mean "sorcery" because sorcery involved a large amount of drug use that was done for spiritual experiences, talking to the dead, conjuring deamons, etc.

Just an alternative thought.

Interesting thought, John. :-) I haven't read about the origin of the naturally occurring chemical but I tend to think it could have been with us since the beginning. I heard someone(I forget who) speculate that these Reptilian images seen after taking DMT are archetypes.

According to Carl Jung, archetypes are characters, images, plot patterns, rituals, and settings that are shared by diverse cultures. Jung believed that archetypes are part of humanity's "collective unconscious" and that they appear in literature, myth, folklore, and rituals from a wide range of cultures. They also manifest themselves in the subconscious thoughts and dreams of people. Literary critic Northrop Frye argued that literary archetypes are recurrent images and symbols in literature.

So while this DMT occurs naturally in people, and I believe perhaps in larger doses in some people than in others, at a larger dose in a controlled environment, these images(i.e. archetypes) are more prevalent.

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~ Isis

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It's interesting to note that DMT is apparently produced by the brain in large amounts during birth. Cannot find the source, but it is also said that the substance is produced by the brain just before people die in some circumstances.

Here is an extensive source of info on DMT:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_info2.shtml

Salvia divinorium, a legal herb, produces similar effects.

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It's interesting to note that DMT is apparently produced by the brain in large amounts during birth. Cannot find the source, but it is also said that the substance is produced by the brain just before people die in some circumstances.

Here is an extensive source of info on DMT:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_info2.shtml

Salvia divinorium, a legal herb, produces similar effects.

Yes, that is interesting. I wonder if this DMT aids in the experiences people may have as they enter this life as well as the entities and things people may see upon exiting this life, for example, the experiences reported during NDE's. :mellow:

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~ Isis

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A lot of people theorize that we enter into human existance from another reality; or dimension; another form of existance - and that we are essentially "transported" into our current physical body.

Now considering the large amounts of DMT in the brain during birth, we could make a connection here to DMT and the extroadinary effects it can induce when consumed as a drug.

Perhaps while on DMT, our soul is somehow unnaturally & temporarily "dipped" back into this realm of existance.

And once again, the fact that DMT is shown to increase in the brain just before death -- seems to go along with this concept quite niceley.

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If DMT causes either a drug induced meeting or an actual one, would it account for the many sightings of UFO's?

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No, not at all. Reading about DMT you will find out that the "effect" lasts for about 30 minutes, and totally consumes the person --- meaning they are basically incapasitated for the duration of the effects, which are apparently mind blowing and incomprehensible.

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Hmm. How does that explain the implants and the weird triangular marks found on people when they wake up after "dreaming" of an abduction? Or, the substances found on their pillow.

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Looks like I'll be bringing this thread back to a brief life. I just heard a podcast on DMT which goes trough everyhting in this thread. I found it interesting. What I also found interesting is that the substance is illegal now, even though there isn't really any evidence that it is harmful (that I know of).

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WOW

major bump!

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WOW

major bump!

Mod Edit: Please DO NOT "BUMP" topics - that is not how this forum works. If you have something useful to ADD to the topic, post a meaningful and relevant reply. If no one replies to the topic, it is because nobody was interested enough to make thoughtful replies, and the thread will fall below the weight of other threads that people are more interested in - "bumping" serves no purpose. -Para, Senior Moderator

It was either that or start a new topic on it, where the relevent information was already contained in this thread. Either way I found it interesting and wanted to see if anyone had any more information on it. Especially since the podcast I heard was recent and added value to the conversation about legality of the drug.

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Hormonal variances can also change our brain chemistry. Nowdays, our natural hormones can be altered by even the plastics we drink from. The environmental toxicity we all create, and lack of balanced, proper vitamins and minerals can seriously affect how we think and function as humans. Everything is interrelated.

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Hormonal variances can also change our brain chemistry. Nowdays, our natural hormones can be altered by even the plastics we drink from. The environmental toxicity we all create, and lack of balanced, proper vitamins and minerals can seriously affect how we think and function as humans. Everything is interrelated.

Hormones are in everything, just look at the six and seven year old girls who start menstruating, that is just wrong.

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Hormones are in everything, just look at the six and seven year old girls who start menstruating, that is just wrong.

There was a recent story about drugs in our drinking water at trace levels. Hormones included. These most likely have a big effect on us in ways we don't even realize.

Drugs in water

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There was a recent story about drugs in our drinking water at trace levels. Hormones included. These most likely have a big effect on us in ways we don't even realize.

Drugs in water

this thread might interest you....

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=157433

anyways... coming back to the dmt issue.... how about some mibs.... ^_^

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