Conscious succubus experience

[Solidsdemise]

I'm intrigued as to whether you think this experience was easier or more difficult for you to cope with having come to the belief it was an actual visitation rather than an expression of your subconscious?

If it was me, I certainly would have found it simpler to 'foist off' any thought that I was expressing desire I did not wish to by externalising the experience onto an entity. It seems a bit like abrogating responsibility. I don't mean this to sound accusatory, regardless of the method you seem to have resolved the issue and that is to your credit.

I don't have any religious convictions of my own and it seems to me that religion and psychology can sometimes be almost diametrically opposite. Whereas in psychology and psychiatry the patient is taught to have faith in self, in religion the 'patient' or worshipper is taught to have faith is something other than self. A question arises as to whether a person of strong religious conviction can ever have true faith in psychology?

Any thoughts?

For me, I want to believe that it came from my subconscious, that it came from me - that would make it most comfortable. However, I honestly can't believe that because of things I mentioned earlier, that the scope of it was beyond anything I could remember, and the sense of how real it was. I never intended it to be an excuse for all of the things I did, and for my breakdown. I have a genuine disorder, and I made poor choices... This experience was only one result of that. Also, I've only mentioned this to my pastor in person - I just wanted to share this to the public anonymously and see what people had to say on the matter, hopefully provide something interesting to think about, and provide any help I can.

You may be surprised that I have great faith in psychology, and I'm actually pursuing a bachelor's in it atm, and hope to earn a PhD in clinical. Psychology is still a blossoming field, and it operates under so many different paradigms. I'm not the type of person at all to say that if you don't sin and if you love Jesus, life is good. Psychology has so much to offer, but just like any other science it often has closed off religion, Christianity in particular. Inevitably, someone's spiritual life has an effect on him or her, and I believe that everyone at least has his or her own worldview.

Part of my career that I'm interested in is exploring connections between the spiritual and the psychological... One doorway I believe that is waiting before the psychological field is that between psychosis and the spiritual, starting through performing case studies. This is a path that's starting to emerge, from what I understand, but not well-tread. I suspect it's because no one knows how to scientifically look at something like this. I believe in looking at people's detailed psychological profiles, and any possible patterns in experiences they recall from their psychosis they would label as "spiritual."

But as OMS mentioned earlier, ALWAYS seek professional psychological and/or psychiatric help. For me, it solved just about everything. I had a good Christian psychologist who taught me I could have faith in myself, but acknowledged the spiritual as well. What's left behind are the mysteries of my experiences, the succubus encounter included, which my therapist said she could not help me with - to seek pastoral help. Now that I'm on firmer ground and I have a break from school, I've started to explore these things.

Sorry for the long post

[Solidsdemise]

Very good to hear!

Yes, this is why I wouldn't say that nothing paranormal (or at least mysterious) happened. When I say that an alienated fragment of your own psyche took on a sort of life of its own and appeared to you in the form of the succubus, I don't mean that it was all in your head or that you just made it up. Like you, I'm very interested in the fact that so many people report such a similar thing, and that it's often accompanied by other strange happenings.

Thank you for your interest, it means a lot.

It seems as though something is being activated that is beyond what we normally think of as individual "imagination" or "fantasy." Two concepts seem helpful here: archetypes of the collective unconscious (Jung) and tulpas or thoughtforms. I wonder if we're dealing with something like that.

Don't be disconcerted, though. You found out what the fundamental problem was, and you found a solution. And by posting here, you've helped me understand some things I may not have understood before.

I'm not well educated on Jung's theories, and I remember the x-files episode on tulpas. However, I believe these phenomenae, if they came about, were from something deeper going on. Another idea that came up earlier in the thread was the opening of the "third eye." Keep in mind, I treat this as a collective theory/concept and don't believe it to be literally true. Doing some brief research on it earlier described other experiences I had at the time that would come as a result of the third eye opening. Perhaps when such a phenomenon occurs, the stimulation opens up other parts of the brain as well. I recall I wished that people would give me a PET scan or something at the time :-)...

Keep in mind I was just speculating in this previous paragraph...

Edited January 13, 2007 by Uraeus

[OMS Transmitting]

okay back to topics! you must agree that the cases where an exorcism has circumvented these continued "possessions"are a legitimate tactic to employ in certain extreme cases , now if this serves to only exacerbate these demonic delusions? only further studies will tell...and keep the replies simple O I don't want to read another dissertation paper! .............B

Med.s should be used to treat a psychotic episode. But I also see a patient as a unique person w/ psych. + emotional needs medication alone can't touch. Added to med.s I think formal therapy, counsel via clergymen, prayer, stress managmt, meaningful r-ships & activities are options to further help him or her feel as whole as possible. Some focus on spirituality (not nec. religion) is good too. If someone suffers from ongoing thoughts of possession, a priest praying over her or even performing a formal exorcism may be ok providing traditional med.& psych interventions are already on board. Also provided the clinicians feel the ritual will unlikely cause further distress or worsening of obsession (of delusional theme.)

A pt. working closely w/a psychiatrist who thinks of himself as possessed, may be advised against certain spiritual practices if it appears to be setting him back in his recovery. Talk therapy alone might be indicated instead, since the sense of possession may ease up once mundane concerns and stressors are addressed.

The pt. who finds an exorcism helpful may be experiencing a placebo effect, whereby they recover from an imagined possession and their recovery is based on their belief in the ritual. Or theoretically it could have been true possession, and if that's the case, the ritual may actually have worked on a spiritual level. None of us are qualified to answer why spiritual intervention may help in all cases. But I believe it to be unethical to deny options (spiritual or otherwise) to a person who suffers from psychosis, provided they are carefully followed by a good team of med/psyche clinicians already.

Some w mental illness find a sense of purpose and centeredness from hanging up shingles as psychics. If that works, I'm not here to condemn it. In the process, many of these people get a sense of strength from guiding others, using their self-proclaimed gifts. Should we round them up, chastise them for "living in the middle ages" and burn their tarot decks? ... Hope this helps.

[boorite]

I'm well educated on Jung's theories, and I remember the x-files episode on tulpas. However, I believe these phenomenae, if they came about, were from something deeper going on.

Deeper than the collective unconscious? Do you mean that the succubus's form exists entirely independent of or prior to human consciousness? Meaning a succubus is a succubus, whether or not there's a human being around to look at it?

EDIT: Oh I see. You had a typo in there, now fixed. You were saying you're not well educated on Jung. That's OK, then! Doesn't make a lot of sense for me to ask a bunch more Jung questions, does it?

Another idea that came up earlier in the thread was the opening of the "third eye." Keep in mind, I treat this as a collective theory/concept and don't believe it to be literally true. Doing some brief research on it earlier described other experiences I had at the time that would come as a result of the third eye opening. Perhaps when such a phenomenon occurs, the stimulation opens up other parts of the brain as well. I recall I wished that people would give me a PET scan or something at the time :-)...

Do you mean that changes can occur in oneself that permit one to "see" things-- real things-- that he might not see otherwise? And that something like this may have occurred in your life?

If that's what you're saying, then I'd say yes, that sort of thing does seem to happen. I guess the question I'm left with is, when one of us encounters a succubus, what is it that we're encountering? We seem to know that the thing typically appears to sexually conflicted persons-- but what is the thing?

And isn't it remarkable that we can fix the problem even though we don't have all the answers?

Edited January 13, 2007 by boorite

[Barek Halfhand]

Med.s should be used to treat a psychotic episode. But I also see a patient as a unique person w/ psych. + emotional needs medication alone can't touch. Added to med.s I think formal therapy, counsel via clergymen, prayer, stress managmt, meaningful r-ships & activities are options to further help him or her feel as whole as possible. Some focus on spirituality (not nec. religion) is good too. If someone suffers from ongoing thoughts of possession, a priest praying over her or even performing a formal exorcism may be ok providing traditional med.& psych interventions are already on board. Also provided the clinicians feel the ritual will unlikely cause further distress or worsening of obsession (of delusional theme.)

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The pt. who finds an exorcism helpful may be experiencing a placebo effect, whereby they recover from an imagined possession and their recovery is based on their belief in the ritual. Or theoretically it could have been true possession, and if that's the case, the ritual may actually have worked on a spiritual level. None of us are qualified to answer why spiritual intervention may help in all cases. But I believe it to be unethical to deny options (spiritual or otherwise) to a person who suffers from psychosis, provided they are carefully followed by a good team of med/psyche clinicians already.

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No this is'nt selective listening O!

again seeing this on a daily basis would tend to solidify your views as such but given the obvious amount of emotional trauma associated with these Epiosodes, ones humble opinion leans toward not basing treatment on the "feelings" of the study council but stopping the immediate trauma from irrevicable damage that a good team of med/psyche cant fix later..........B

"yeah Barek just keep it short and profound so you can think of something better later....."wait did I just say that out loud?"

BH

Edited January 13, 2007 by Barek Halfhand

[Solidsdemise]

(sorry btw it was a mistype - i'm not well educated on Jung but have some general study of him)

Deeper than the collective unconscious? Do you mean that the succubus's form exists entirely independent of or prior to human consciousness? Meaning a succubus is a succubus, whether or not there's a human being around to look at it?

Do you mean that changes can occur in oneself that permit one to "see" things-- real things-- that he might not see otherwise? And that something like this may have occurred in your life?

Yes, precisely. I believe that there are genuine demons, the succubus being one type of a demon, which live in the spiritual realm. Something to throw out there is I believe that God has placed barriers in our minds to protect us from their influence. But due to sin, which affects anything and everything, especially our minds and what the Bible calls the "flesh," this barrier has been broken down to some extent. Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis is an excellent illustration of what the demonic plane could look like - entertaining and stimulating at the least.

We are on a spiritual battlefield, and are largely unable to see what's going on. I believe that barrier in my mind got broken down so much that I saw a glimpse of what was going on in this experience.

If that's what you're saying, then I'd say yes, that sort of thing does seem to happen. I guess the question I'm left with is, when one of us encounters a succubus, what is it that we're encountering? We seem to know that the thing typically appears to sexually conflicted persons-- but what is the thing?

And isn't it remarkable that we can fix the problem even though we don't have all the answers?

I believe it to be some kind of demon, but I haven't done enough research. If the thread continues to stay open long enough, I'll be sure to divulge what my pastor uncovers.

Sin opens doorways to demonic influence, whether we acknowledge it or not - as the Bible says. Sexual sin, in particular; I'd be happy to elaborate if you're interested, but I'll try to make the post short. Since I indulged in a lot of pornography and had an unhealthy ignorance of my sexuality, I was wide open to sexual attack - so a succubus, a sexual demon, would make sense at least to me.

Since I posted this I heard another person who described someone he knew who had repeated visits and tried many methods to try to make them stop... But yeah, I attribute a lot of it to faith, science, and other relationships that healed me.

Thanks for your continued posts :-)

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

I like boorites theory

With having my head litterly in the spirit world every day 365 days a year I've yet to come a cross demons or this dark place, yes I've come across negitive, pushy, bad, evil entities but nothing worse in personality than what resides here in the living.

[Azalin]

I have not posted on these boards in sometime due to my own personal travelling and research, however I found this story very compelling.

Uraeus. To get a better understand on your story, there are just some questions I would be inclined to ask.

I take it you have only had this experience just the once ?.

Have you turned back to your addiction to pornography ?,

Have you seen anything else out of the norm ?, such as ghosts, or apparations, noises and so fourth.

Have you ever had a random foul smell in your bedroom, that might relate to sulfur, burning, or rotting meat ?.

I have spoken with other men who have explained there experiences with Succubi, and women who have explained there confrontations with Incubi. What you spoke of is very much the truth. When you wear your own spiritual shield down, you open yourself up to attacks from the otherside. I know of someone that lost there husband, and actually performed a ritual to summon an Incubus and lock him inside of a vessel. Convienient for her, however, dire consequences later which she later learned of. These are not spirits to be toyed with, so if the experiences continue to happen, I would hope you would let me know.

This is one of the worst demons of sin around, mainly because there touch and curse are so pleasurable by us mortals. Specially in a day and age where human perfection is idolized, it makes a large number of people feel rejected, which opens many doors for such beings to take advantage of us. If you could get back to me with some of those answers either in a PM, or in the main channel itself, then I can do my best to help answer any of your questions relating to this phenomenon

[143]

Thanks for sharing the story... Was it published online?

Yes, if you type in Incubus Succubus (SP) in your search engine, then you will come across a whole bunch of stories.

Another guy was on here a while ago, and his thread was deleted because I guess it went into too much detail. He didn't know what it was either until I had actually given him the names. I was reading that stuff just days before, since I had never heard of anything like that myself and thought it was pretty interesting.

[Solidsdemise]

I take it you have only had this experience just the once ?.

Have you turned back to your addiction to pornography ?,

Have you seen anything else out of the norm ?, such as ghosts, or apparations, noises and so fourth.

Have you ever had a random foul smell in your bedroom, that might relate to sulfur, burning, or rotting meat ?.

1. I had this experience only once so vividly with a succubus. Another time, I believe an incubus tried to rape me in my sleep a month earlier, but I haven't thought about it much and I don't claim that to be genuine.

2. I've never been obsessed about pornography since - I have stumbled a few days at a time a few times since, but nothing significant.

3. Many other things happened out of the norm... things I saw, heard, felt, including what I sensed were powerful entities trying to control me. Christians say they feel angels comforting them... I felt that strongly. However, I felt demons use those abilities on me in corrupt ways. I heard what I thought were demons talking to me before this experience, and I could faintly see angels that I felt were protecting me when the demons were trying to destroy me. These experiences were much different than my hallucinations - including seeing FBI agents, hearing random gibberish, etc, later on in the hospital. If you want me to go into more detail, I can.

4. I remember smelling something very infected burning in my room, that would come before I felt those demonic presences. The succubus had the most pleasant smell I had ever experienced in my life, however.

I have spoken with other men who have explained there experiences with Succubi, and women who have explained there confrontations with Incubi. What you spoke of is very much the truth. When you wear your own spiritual shield down, you open yourself up to attacks from the otherside. I know of someone that lost there husband, and actually performed a ritual to summon an Incubus and lock him inside of a vessel. Convienient for her, however, dire consequences later which she later learned of. These are not spirits to be toyed with, so if the experiences continue to happen, I would hope you would let me know.

Thank you for the info... In addition, my physical body and mental barriers were worn down, which further opened me to attack and I believe allowed me to experience this consciously. I believe someone else mentioned the story earlier... do you happen to have a link to it you could post on the main thread? Thanks.

If it happens again, I'll be sure to at least PM you .

This is one of the worst demons of sin around, mainly because there touch and curse are so pleasurable by us mortals. Specially in a day and age where human perfection is idolized, it makes a large number of people feel rejected, which opens many doors for such beings to take advantage of us. If you could get back to me with some of those answers either in a PM, or in the main channel itself, then I can do my best to help answer any of your questions relating to this phenomenon

Thank you, I believe this will be very helpful.

So do the other questions earlier that you ask correspond with succubi encounters?

Spiritually, are there any long-term effects that have to be denounced, or is it mostly craving the experience again that is so dangerous?

Are there any other questions you have for me?

Thanks!

[Opus Magnus]

I thought I had a succubus on me once. Did a lot of research on them. Turns out it was a teenage girl spirit attachment. She plagued my dreams for a long time. I tried to confront her in my dreams by lucid dreaming, and I did. She was tricky though, and she actually switched my dreams and brought me out of lucid dreaming. I'd get pushed out of the dream where I was calling her in it to confront her, and I'd get a dream, there's a term for it, where you think you have woken up.

[Opus Magnus]

Weird, while I was typing that my shoe moved across the floor and hit my leg... Feels like something is in my hair too.. aha7*

[Azalin]

So do the other questions earlier that you ask correspond with succubi encounters?

Spiritually, are there any long-term effects that have to be denounced, or is it mostly craving the experience again that is so dangerous?

Are there any other questions you have for me?

Like you stated above, craving the experience again can be the worse. Like acts of kindness, acts of violence and sin are done worse through repetition. As one sins more, they seem to "graduate" to more heinous crimes. A murderer for instance begins becoming more insane as his work continues. A thief starts out small, and contnues to rob in larger quantities. The trapping and wanting the pleasure of an Incubus or Succubus begins draining your soul, your lifes energy, making you a weaker, and more vunerable person. In time you can begin to depend on the being for everything. It really is a vicious cycle.

Now you mentioned seeing hallucinations, and in the hospital. What were these symptoms for, schizophrenia. ?

As for the smelling of foul odors, this is a possible link between you and the demonic entities. It's a sign that they are near or present.

It's good you have not had this encounter again. Despite the urge it might be to submit yourself to this experience again, it's wise not too. Depending on your answer with the visuals you have been seeing, whether it is possible schizophrenia or not, I can give you a bit more advice on. You mentioned you could go into more detail while you were in the hospital, I think that would be beneficial.

God Bless, Azalin

[OMS Transmitting]

No this is'nt selective listening O!

again seeing this on a daily basis would tend to solidify your views as such but given the obvious amount of emotional trauma associated with these Epiosodes, ones humble opinion leans toward not basing treatment on the "feelings" of the study council but stopping the immediate trauma from irrevicable damage that a good team of med/psyche cant fix later..........Bp

Beyond the medical aspect, a good deal of treatment is an art, w little to no guarantees on what therapy modality will or won't work. No resource I mentioned appears to be inherently deliterious or inherently curative for pt.s as a whole. In that way I use the word "feelings" to mean the educated guesses (or hunches) clinicians use in deciding whether a particular tx modality may help or push someone over the edge. The educated part of the "guess" comes from a gleeming of various forms of info, such as, medical & family history, present status of pt, statistics on the effecacy of the tx/s in question, peer collaboration & oversight ... and more.

[Solidsdemise]

Now you mentioned seeing hallucinations, and in the hospital. What were these symptoms for, schizophrenia. ?

Depending on your answer with the visuals you have been seeing, whether it is possible schizophrenia or not, I can give you a bit more advice on. You mentioned you could go into more detail while you were in the hospital, I think that would be beneficial.

God Bless, Azalin

Officially, I was diagnosed with schizonophrenia, which is verbatim schizophrenia in an acute state. If I hadn't stopped hallucinating or experiencing psychosis in general after a certain period of time, I would have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. However, they saw my clear mood patterns/cycles in the past, and the psychosis was a short acute period. I haven't had a psychotic episode or psychosis since, both of which were related to my mania taken to the next level.

The hospital is a big pickle... I hope to write a book on it some day or a series of short stories.

One thing that happened I mentioned earlier is I met a young boy who had psychic abilities. What I didn't mention earlier is that I thought he may have been demon posessed. I learned that he came back to the hospital crisis unit repeatedly. I didn't know what his diagnosis was, but he had different mental states he would go into, one of which was extremely destructive. He would look people in the eye, and tell disturbing things about them. When he tried to do this to me, he couldn't reach very far because I, well, relied on Christ to resist what I felt was temptation trying to seep into me. Needless to say, he also exhibited very strange behavior at times. He was obsessed about religious items while he was around me, even though I didn't say anything to him about my religion, and I believe that was one way he tried to influence me.

He tried a variety of methods to get inside of me that I can elaborate on further if need be. When he saw how strong I was, he ended up setting me aside and he taught me how to name cards from a deck of normal playing cards, which stemmed to what I thought was a level of understanding and faith that I posessed. I've never tried to do this again, and I am unable to, and never wish to.

The schizophrenia-like symptoms played out mainly through my paranoia. I mentioned FBI agents, because I thought that the stuff I was witnessing the government might be interested in. I didn't believe the hallucinations, because they didn't have much basis to them. I would also hear gibberish voices speaking to me audibly, which didn't make sense to me - I view that as audible hallucinations. However, I continued to have the smell of the incubus on and off while at the hospital, along with sulfur associated with the young boy.

In addition, I had heightened perceptions of other people, and I could understand my roommate very well, who was admitted at least in part due to a psychotic episode associated with cocaine use. I could look at a person and tell what was bothering them, or ask the right questions for them to tell me.

Many other things happened there.

[Barek Halfhand]

Like you stated above, craving the experience again can be the worse. Like acts of kindness, acts of violence and sin are done worse through repetition. As one sins more, they seem to "graduate" to more heinous crimes. A murderer for instance begins becoming more insane as his work continues. A thief starts out small, and contnues to rob in larger quantities. The trapping and wanting the pleasure of an Incubus or Succubus begins draining your soul, your lifes energy, making you a weaker, and more vunerable person. In time you can begin to depend on the being for everything. It really is a vicious cycle.

Now you mentioned seeing hallucinations, and in the hospital. What were these symptoms for, schizophrenia. ?

As for the smelling of foul odors, this is a possible link between you and the demonic entities. It's a sign that they are near or present.

It's good you have not had this encounter again. Despite the urge it might be to submit yourself to this experience again, it's wise not too. Depending on your answer with the visuals you have been seeing, whether it is possible schizophrenia or not, I can give you a bit more advice on. You mentioned you could go into more detail while you were in the hospital, I think that would be beneficial.

God Bless, Azalin

great! now I gotta read ALL of your posts too Az!................B

Edited January 13, 2007 by Barek Halfhand

[Opus Magnus]

Officially, I was diagnosed with schizonophrenia, which is verbatim schizophrenia in an acute state. If I hadn't stopped hallucinating or experiencing psychosis in general after a certain period of time, I would have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. However, they saw my clear mood patterns/cycles in the past, and the psychosis was a short acute period. I haven't had a psychotic episode or psychosis since, both of which were related to my mania taken to the next level.

Schizoaffective disorder.

[Solidsdemise]

Schizoaffective disorder.

Thanks for clearing that up

[Azalin]

great! now I gotta read ALL of your posts too Az!................B

If you have nothing to add to the dis-cussion, why post ?. If you want to read some of my posts, let me help you.

Demonic Possession

Exorcisms

Demonology

[Barek Halfhand]

I thought I had a succubus on me once. Did a lot of research on them. Turns out it was a teenage girl spirit attachment. She plagued my dreams for a long time. I tried to confront her in my dreams by lucid dreaming, and I did. She was tricky though, and she actually switched my dreams and brought me out of lucid dreaming. I'd get pushed out of the dream where I was calling her in it to confront her, and I'd get a dream, there's a term for it, where you think you have woken ..

Missed this from opie!....(little rascals,priceless)notice he mentioned that he made attempts to control his lucid dreaming SPs seems to also get intense for me after attempting lucid dreaming exercises, curious about his age at the time of the girl spirit attachment did this occur during adolescence Spanky? I mean Opie!..................................B

Butters :I just saw a ghost rite now!"

Mr Scotch:"You did not see a ghost Butters its just your little imagination running wild again."

Edited January 15, 2007 by Barek Halfhand

[Opus Magnus]

Missed this from opie!....(little rascals,priceless)notice he mentioned that he made attempts to control his lucid dreaming SPs seems to also get intense for me after attempting lucid dreaming exercises, curious about his age at the time of the girl spirit attachment did this occur during adolescence Spanky? I mean Opie!..................................B

Butters :I just saw a ghost rite now!"

Mr Scotch:"You did not see a ghost Butters its just your little imagination running wild again."

I'm 19, and I had the spirit attachment when I was 19. About 10 months ago it started until I had my house cleansed of negative energy. I've had SP my whole life. I didn't notice it too bad until I had the spirit attachment. That's when I got on these forums and figured out what SP was.

BTW, she did a lot more than stuff in my dreams though. I could hardly sleep at night from all the noises. Walls cracking, tapping, voices. My girlfriend at the time noticed it too. I had her sleep in my room once, and she heard all the stuff I did. Huge bangs, like a TV falling and crashing, but not really happening. She heard her voice also and even felt her touching her.

Edited January 15, 2007 by Opus Magnus

[lufia]

this i believe is all a dream. you won't beable to last 6 hours if your a virgin physically, i know because of asking and hearing from people, im a virgin myself. you will beable to last 6 hrs if it was in a dream or lucid dream, a 'wet dream' which comes when you desire it in which you seem to be after such a long time without pornography and the sleepless nights you experience may have delluded your thoughts. looking to link your experiences to x-files, the mythical succubus and religion doesn't justify what really happen. im very sure this was all a lucid dream

Edited January 15, 2007 by lufia

[Solidsdemise]

this i believe is all a dream. you won't beable to last 6 hours if your a virgin physically, i know because of asking and hearing from people, im a virgin myself. you will beable to last 6 hrs if it was in a dream or lucid dream, a 'wet dream' which comes when you desire it in which you seem to be after such a long time without pornography and the sleepless nights you experience may have delluded your thoughts. looking to link your experiences to x-files, the mythical succubus and religion doesn't justify what really happen. im very sure this was all a lucid dream

Thanks for your reply...

I don't see myself as able to ever last that long physically with another person in the future, and your observation shows to me how odd this experience was. I was 100% sure I was conscious during the whole ordeal, and another way of verifying this was I checked word signs and my watch, and they read consistently throughout the experience.

Also, I don't have wet dreams, which I've figured out how to work around in healthy ways to make up for this loss.

Throughout the thread, I have mentioned other strange happenings related to this experience to make me believe that it was something acting outside of my subconscious. I don't base the theory of the succubus on x-files that's just how i've heard about those who believe it exists, and i've done some lighter research since.

I recognize this to be a touchy topic... Part of it relates to the very nature of this thread as being psychological and spiritual, and how these intersect or do not in this case.

Peace,

-Uraeus

Edited January 15, 2007 by Uraeus

[lufia]

your concious while having a lucid dream, thats the only logic that i can think off. i only had 2 or so wet dreams in my life, they rare and they can be either a normal dream or lucid.

peace

Edited January 15, 2007 by lufia

[Opus Magnus]

this i believe is all a dream. you won't beable to last 6 hours if your a virgin physically, i know because of asking and hearing from people, im a virgin myself. you will beable to last 6 hrs if it was in a dream or lucid dream, a 'wet dream' which comes when you desire it in which you seem to be after such a long time without pornography and the sleepless nights you experience may have delluded your thoughts. looking to link your experiences to x-files, the mythical succubus and religion doesn't justify what really happen. im very sure this was all a lucid dream

Don't be so sure. The first few times for me I lasted for a long time, and didn't even reach a climax until about 3 and a half hours in.