What really happened to Marilyn Monroe?

[Kryso]

Because it is the 40 year of JFK’s assassination, I just wanted to bring up this subject - that he was supposedly involved in!

Sometime after 10 p.m. on August 4, 1962, Marilyn Monroe slipped into a coma caused by an overdose of sleeping pills. She would never regain consciousness. Shortly after she was discovered, a bizarre set of activities took place in her Brentwood home at 12305 Fifth Helena Drive. Some items were allegedly removed, including a diary and an incriminating note which could have far-reaching implications, if discovered. The order for their removal was believed to have come from someone in the White House, in an attempt to prevent a scandal from toppling the presidency of John F. Kennedy.

Many witnesses said they observed Marilyn being secretly taken that night by an ambulance crew to a nearby hospital before being returned again to her Brentwood home in Los Angeles. Forever steeped in mystery are the exact events that took place on the night that one of the world's leading sex symbols and movie legends died. According to some accounts, Marilyn's body was rediscovered by her house companion, Eunice Murray, and her psychiatrist, Dr. Greenson, several hours following the initial discovery of her remains.

Greenson would later tell police that Murray alerted him around 3:30 a.m. that something might be wrong with Marilyn, the morning following Marilyn's death. When he arrived at Marilyn's home, he broke into her bedroom and found her lying nude and face down in her bed. She was clutching a phone in her right hand. After a brief examination he determined that she was dead.

Exactly how and when Marilyn Monroe died sparked a debate that would last more than 40 years and generate many theories, including that of murder. Some of these theories even implicated John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert in the mysterious death.

What do you think really happened?

[Kryso]

Here are the 3 main theories I could find!

Suicide

This is the official cause of death and probably the most widely believed. She had tried it four times previously and she clearly had significant mood swings.

The problem with this theory is that too many forensic facts are at odds with it, unless one can imagine Marilyn making up a barbiturate enema and administering it to herself. Quite a number of forensic experts have discarded the suicide theory as inconsistent with the facts.

Another problem with the suicide theory is that she was in good spirits at the time of her death and had been making plans for future events and movies, and if Spoto is correct, her remarriage to Joe DiMaggio.

Accident

If, in fact, Marilyn died from a rectally-administered barbiturate enema, the question is who prepared and administered it. It is not out of the realm of possibility that the overdose was accidental.

Spoto makes a very persuasive case for accidental death. Dr. Greenson had been working with Dr. Hyman Engelberg to wean Marilyn off Nembutal, substituting instead chloral hydrate to help her sleep. Milton Rudin claimed that Greenson said something very important the night of Marilyn's death: " God damn it! Hy gave her a prescription I didn't know about!"

Dr. Engelberg was having serious marital problems and obviously didn't communicate well with Greenson on Marilyn's prescriptions. Spoto suggests that Greenson would not have given Marilyn a heavy dose of chloral hydrate the evening of her death if he had realized that Marilyn had been taking Nembutal capsules throughout the day. Spoto further suggests that after an exhausting full day with Marilyn that he arranged for Marilyn to have a chloral hydrate enema so that she would sleep through the night.

Chloral hydrate significantly slows down the metabolism of Nembutal, but Greenson did not know that she had been taking Nembutal and Marilyn did not realize that Nembutal and chloral hydrate interacted adversely or she probably would have admitted to Greenson that she had taken Nembutals.

If Spoto's theory is correct, then who administered the enema? Spoto believes that it had to be Eunice Murray, who, like Greenson, had no inkling that the sedative enema would be fatal.

Any doctor might be loath to admit to himself or others that he had made such a significant mistake in such a high-profile patient, especially since Marilyn appeared drugged during the afternoon. Also, if Eunice was the person who administered the enema, it would be natural for her to try to protect herself and Dr. Greenson by pretending that no such procedure was given to Marilyn.

Murder

Everyone loves a conspiracy. It is so much more exciting than accidental death or suicide. The celebrity status of the main characters in this drama lends itself heavily towards the romance of conspiracy. Look at the cottage industry that John F. Kennedy's assassination has generated.

It's important to distinguish the cover-up of embarrassing information by powerful people from the commitment of a crime to eliminate people who can potentially create embarrassment.

There are a number of credible people who claim that Marilyn Monroe had affairs with one or both Kennedy brothers. John Kennedy, at least, was known to indulge himself in extramarital adventures. So, it is not at all implausible that President Kennedy availed himself of the charms of one of the sexiest and most attractive women of that era. That Robert Kennedy was so inclined is not nearly as clear.

According to Peter Lawford, Marilyn's unrealistic notions about becoming First Lady caused her to embarrass herself with both Kennedy brothers. Her letters and telephone calls to them had become both tiresome and very risky. It was one thing to cavort with anonymous girls, but quite another to be involved with a celebrity sex symbol like Marilyn Monroe. There was every good reason for JFK and RFK to break off the relationship with Marilyn permanently.

What allegedly became so troublesome was Marilyn's supposed rage at JFK's rejection of her and the fear that she was able to strike in both brothers. Donald Wolfe sums it up: "Marilyn Monroe was in a position to bring down the presidency. She was cognizant of Jack Kennedy's marital infidelities and other private matters. She had his notes and letters and was privy to Kennedy's involvement with Sam Giancana. That the Kennedy brothers had discussed national security matters with the film star added to an astonishing array of indiscretions."

It is not out of the realm of possibility that Robert Kennedy was the man appointed by his brother to deliver the rejection to Marilyn personally. It's not the kind of thing that one writes in a letter and it's unlikely that JFK was anxious to deliver the message himself.

Did that Robert Kennedy bring Marilyn the news of his brother's desire to break off his relationship on the night Marilyn died? After all, there are some witnesses, including a cop, who place Robert Kennedy near the scene that night. This information may never be known with any certainty, but if Robert Kennedy did somehow make an unannounced visit to Marilyn Monroe on the night of August 4, then it provides unexpected motivation for the suicide theory. That is, while Marilyn may have been in good spirits that day and evening, a visit by Robert Kennedy shattering her notions about an enduring relationship with the President could have abruptly changed her mood.

Was there an attempt on the part of the government to cover up the President's indiscretions with Marilyn Monroe? It would be very surprising indeed if there were not such an attempt.

The alleged cover-up was believed to have extended beyond the phone records and police evidence found at the scene. Shortly after his phone call to the Naars before 11 p.m. on the night of Marilyn's death, it is believed that Peter Lawford and Pat Newcomb went to Marilyn's house. Purportedly in a state of panic, Lawford called brother-in-law Bobby Kennedy and explained what had occurred.

However, destroying phone records and personal journals and scraps of paper are not in the same league with murder.

To suggest, as some authors, have that Robert Kennedy was somehow complicit in the murder of Marilyn Monroe is to be ignorant of the character and integrity of the Attorney General. While mystery surrounds the death of Marilyn Monroe, mystery does not shroud the character of Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy had a very fixed moral compass which was repeatedly documented in his crusade against organized crime.

Was Marilyn murdered by the Mafia, eager to avenge itself on the Kennedys for Robert's strike against them and expose the Kennedys' philandering to the American public? The motive was probably there but with what is known about the individuals present in Marilyn's home on the night of August 4, 1962, it makes a mob hit with a rectal enema seem a bit unlikely and almost absurd.

The actual events that surrounded Marilyn's death will probably never be known. What was known for certain was that a living legend mysteriously died before her time, in a mist of confusion, scandal and uncertainty.

Following the autopsy, Marilyn's body was released to her family. Marilyn's mother, who was institutionalized, did not take custody of the body. Instead, Joe DiMaggio claimed her remains and arranged a small and quiet funeral for the woman he continued to love up until her death. Finally on August 8, 1962, she was laid to rest in Los Angeles' Westwood Memorial Park in the Corridor of Memories. On that day, thousands lined the streets and grieved for their icon and the world's movie legend, Marilyn Monroe.

Once again, which one do you think is closer to the mark?

[Unexplainable]

out of A, B and C, isn't there the possibility of D?

[Melladior]

I tend to think it was a suicide. I've heard the theory that Bobby Kennedy did in fact visit her to tell her to leave JFK alone, and that this was likely the reason she killed herself. Wether she was murdered or not, I believe her death had everything to do with JFK.

[Unexplainable]

who's to say that marilyn monroe indeed did die? mayb she is still alive and out there sumwhere. mayb she lives now with another identity. if u ever met sum1 who looks like her, it mite just b her.

[Anirbas]

who's to say that marilyn monroe indeed did die? mayb she is still alive and out there sumwhere. mayb she lives now with another identity. if u ever met sum1 who looks like her, it mite just b her.

Yeah and she's living with Elvis.....at graceland!

[Unexplainable]

very funny.

[Phantom]

who's to say that marilyn monroe indeed did die? mayb she is still alive and out there sumwhere. mayb she lives now with another identity. if u ever met sum1 who looks like her, it mite just b her.

Hmm...well... the autopsy performed on her dead body kinda gave away the fact that she had kicked the bucket.

[Unexplainable]

rite now that's the end of her, tho it doens't prove everything. i'll leave it 2 that.

Edited December 5, 2003 by Magikman

[acidhead]

Murder

Everyone loves a conspiracy. It is so much more exciting than accidental death or suicide. The celebrity status of the main characters in this drama lends itself heavily towards the romance of conspiracy. Look at the cottage industry that John F. Kennedy's assassination has generated.

It's important to distinguish the cover-up of embarrassing information by powerful people from the commitment of a crime to eliminate people who can potentially create embarrassment.

There are a number of credible people who claim that Marilyn Monroe had affairs with one or both Kennedy brothers. John Kennedy, at least, was known to indulge himself in extramarital adventures. So, it is not at all implausible that President Kennedy availed himself of the charms of one of the sexiest and most attractive women of that era. That Robert Kennedy was so inclined is not nearly as clear.

According to Peter Lawford, Marilyn's unrealistic notions about becoming First Lady caused her to embarrass herself with both Kennedy brothers. Her letters and telephone calls to them had become both tiresome and very risky. It was one thing to cavort with anonymous girls, but quite another to be involved with a celebrity sex symbol like Marilyn Monroe. There was every good reason for JFK and RFK to break off the relationship with Marilyn permanently.

What allegedly became so troublesome was Marilyn's supposed rage at JFK's rejection of her and the fear that she was able to strike in both brothers. Donald Wolfe sums it up: "Marilyn Monroe was in a position to bring down the presidency. She was cognizant of Jack Kennedy's marital infidelities and other private matters. She had his notes and letters and was privy to Kennedy's involvement with Sam Giancana. That the Kennedy brothers had discussed national security matters with the film star added to an astonishing array of indiscretions."

It is not out of the realm of possibility that Robert Kennedy was the man appointed by his brother to deliver the rejection to Marilyn personally. It's not the kind of thing that one writes in a letter and it's unlikely that JFK was anxious to deliver the message himself.

Did that Robert Kennedy bring Marilyn the news of his brother's desire to break off his relationship on the night Marilyn died? After all, there are some witnesses, including a cop, who place Robert Kennedy near the scene that night. This information may never be known with any certainty, but if Robert Kennedy did somehow make an unannounced visit to Marilyn Monroe on the night of August 4, then it provides unexpected motivation for the suicide theory. That is, while Marilyn may have been in good spirits that day and evening, a visit by Robert Kennedy shattering her notions about an enduring relationship with the President could have abruptly changed her mood.

Was there an attempt on the part of the government to cover up the President's indiscretions with Marilyn Monroe? It would be very surprising indeed if there were not such an attempt.

The alleged cover-up was believed to have extended beyond the phone records and police evidence found at the scene. Shortly after his phone call to the Naars before 11 p.m. on the night of Marilyn's death, it is believed that Peter Lawford and Pat Newcomb went to Marilyn's house. Purportedly in a state of panic, Lawford called brother-in-law Bobby Kennedy and explained what had occurred.

However, destroying phone records and personal journals and scraps of paper are not in the same league with murder.

To suggest, as some authors, have that Robert Kennedy was somehow complicit in the murder of Marilyn Monroe is to be ignorant of the character and integrity of the Attorney General. While mystery surrounds the death of Marilyn Monroe, mystery does not shroud the character of Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy had a very fixed moral compass which was repeatedly documented in his crusade against organized crime.

Was Marilyn murdered by the Mafia, eager to avenge itself on the Kennedys for Robert's strike against them and expose the Kennedys' philandering to the American public? The motive was probably there but with what is known about the individuals present in Marilyn's home on the night of August 4, 1962, it makes a mob hit with a rectal enema seem a bit unlikely and almost absurd.

The actual events that surrounded Marilyn's death will probably never be known. What was known for certain was that a living legend mysteriously died before her time, in a mist of confusion, scandal and uncertainty.

Following the autopsy, Marilyn's body was released to her family. Marilyn's mother, who was institutionalized, did not take custody of the body. Instead, Joe DiMaggio claimed her remains and arranged a small and quiet funeral for the woman he continued to love up until her death. Finally on August 8, 1962, she was laid to rest in Los Angeles' Westwood Memorial Park in the Corridor of Memories. On that day, thousands lined the streets and grieved for their icon and the world's movie legend, Marilyn Monroe.

Once again, which one do you think is closer to the mark?

I've listened to Tony "tommy" Gambino interviews (3 in total---each over an hour in length) talk about Monroe's death(murder) and much more.

The interviews took place over the phone on 3 seperate occassions during the period Sept. 2007- late Oct. 2007. The interviews can no longer be found on the internet although an extensive torrent search may locate one or two or maybe all of them... i don't know because i haven't search for a while now.

Gambino says he's Charles "Lucky" Luciano's grand-son..... Lucky may be the most powerful mafia don of the five families ever to head La cosa nostra... television/movie propaganda tries to popularize lesser don's..... paul Castellano, carlo Gambino, john Gotti.

He claims Marilyn Monroe was killed by the Kennedy brothers because she was pregnant by one of them, whom she did not know because she had slept with both brothers(at the same time ...who knows )

Gambino said Monroe was his grandfathers favorite actress.... right behind that"scumbag" Frank Sinatra who introduced the Kennedy brothers to Monroe.

When she became pregnant she threatened to tell Jacqueline Kennedy and was "silenced".

The murder of Marilyn Monroe made Lucky Luciano very upset with the Kennedy brothers whose father, Joe, was a well known Bootlegger during prohabition era. Gambino claoms that to this day the Kennedy family still rceives $1 dollar from every bottle of scotch that is imported into N. America from Scotland.

In each interview Gambino talks with an confident tone when he repeats "JFK was killed because they(the Kennedy Brothers) killed Marilyn Monroe".

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Edited May 7, 2009 by acidhead

[conspiracybeliever]

You never know. Just because history tells us of Robert Kennedy's "fixed moral Compass" doesn't mean anything. History lies all the time and there are MANY that crusade against "crime" who are criminals themselves. That old saying...the preacher is usually the biggest sinner. But we'll probably never know the truth. Any of the above could be true.

[ValkyrieVoice]

I so completely believe that Bobby Kennedy had everything to do with her death, and then some!

[She-ra]

I think it was a mafia hit. Omerta...

[HollyDolly]

I so completely believe that Bobby Kennedy had everything to do with her death, and then some!

This is the thought of many. When the Chappaquidick scandal hit,which invovled Teddy Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopecne(probably misspelled her name)

Both my parents said Teddy did it.

The two had been at some party with a group of people. Teddy was driving and somehow managed to drive off a pier ,any ways Teddy managed to escape, but never to anyone's knowledge tried to get her out.I think he reported the accident after the fact,and her body was found in the car.

Kennedys tried to do damage control.I think there was a show triall,but nothing really happend to Teddy. Whole deal gets dropped. Momma and daddy said

Mary Jo's family got bought off by the Kennedys, and my mom said the reason Teddy let her drown is cause she was pregnant,and by him.

I don't know if they did an autopsy or not, and if they did, and she WAS pregnant, that fact was never leaked in the press.

I was a teenager when this happend. Also heard from my parental units about Kennedy ,the old man, being a bootlegger too.

Joe Kennedy was a womanizer, and played around with Gloria Swanson,who was a famous silent film star of the period.

He financed a movie for her,named Queen Kelly,written and directed by Erich von Stroheim. Due to her differences with Stroheim, the film was shelved and later on a new ending was shot.The film was showed in Europe,but i don't think there was any american release. Kennedy realized he lost a bundle of dough on this project,and quickly tired of her.

Both she and Stroheim appeared in Sunset Boulevard with Willam Holden and Jack Webb. Swanson plays Norma Desmond, and Stroheim plays her ex husband/director,now butler Max.Carol Burnett did some skits that were a takeoff on Norma Desmond.I think Swanson even appeared on her show.

Anyhow, there is a scene in the movie in which they show a brief clip from Queen Kelly,when she is with William Holden.

Erich von Stroheim was a famous film director.He started out doing extra parts,and later graduated to bigger roles. Known as the Man you love to Hate during WW1(played the dirty hun) he after the war started directing.His first film was Blind Husbands.Foolish Wives, The Devil's Passkey, MerryGo Round and

others followed, his most famous being the original Merry Widow with Mae Murrary and John Gilbert, and of course,Greed,part of which was actually filmed in Death Valley.

Anyhow, back to the Kennedys, back I think in the 1980s or early 90s, there was mention made of Marylin and the Kennedys. According to the paper, after the stuff about Marylin and John and Bobby came out, Joe Di Maggio STOPPED sending flowers to her grave! He had done it for years, and then just quit.

To me that is significant, because why would Joe stop sending her flowers, UNLESS IT WAS TRUE she was envovled with the Kennedy boys.

There"s alot about her death that may never come out.

By the way Tommy Gambino being Lucky Luciano's grandson. Well he might be right about the Kennedys being invovled in her death.

No , this wasn't a mobhit. By the way, Lucky Luciano was a real lady killer. Google Thelma Todd.She was a popular film comediene who had a joint on the pacific Highway out in California. Lucky knew her husband,Pat , and tried to put the muscle on Todd in regards to gambling.

She was found dead in her car in the garage near her home. LA cops got a tip from Salt Lake City about a man who was invovled in her murder,but never followed up on the lead.Probably got some payola to look the other way.

[acidhead]

This is the thought of many. When the Chappaquidick scandal hit,which invovled Teddy Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopecne(probably misspelled her name)

Both my parents said Teddy did it.

The two had been at some party with a group of people. Teddy was driving and somehow managed to drive off a pier ,any ways Teddy managed to escape, but never to anyone's knowledge tried to get her out.I think he reported the accident after the fact,and her body was found in the car.

Kennedys tried to do damage control.I think there was a show triall,but nothing really happend to Teddy. Whole deal gets dropped. Momma and daddy said

Mary Jo's family got bought off by the Kennedys, and my mom said the reason Teddy let her drown is cause she was pregnant,and by him.

I don't know if they did an autopsy or not, and if they did, and she WAS pregnant, that fact was never leaked in the press.

I was a teenager when this happend. Also heard from my parental units about Kennedy ,the old man, being a bootlegger too.

Joe Kennedy was a womanizer, and played around with Gloria Swanson,who was a famous silent film star of the period.

He financed a movie for her,named Queen Kelly,written and directed by Erich von Stroheim. Due to her differences with Stroheim, the film was shelved and later on a new ending was shot.The film was showed in Europe,but i don't think there was any american release. Kennedy realized he lost a bundle of dough on this project,and quickly tired of her.

Both she and Stroheim appeared in Sunset Boulevard with Willam Holden and Jack Webb. Swanson plays Norma Desmond, and Stroheim plays her ex husband/director,now butler Max.Carol Burnett did some skits that were a takeoff on Norma Desmond.I think Swanson even appeared on her show.

Anyhow, there is a scene in the movie in which they show a brief clip from Queen Kelly,when she is with William Holden.

Erich von Stroheim was a famous film director.He started out doing extra parts,and later graduated to bigger roles. Known as the Man you love to Hate during WW1(played the dirty hun) he after the war started directing.His first film was Blind Husbands.Foolish Wives, The Devil's Passkey, MerryGo Round and

others followed, his most famous being the original Merry Widow with Mae Murrary and John Gilbert, and of course,Greed,part of which was actually filmed in Death Valley.

Anyhow, back to the Kennedys, back I think in the 1980s or early 90s, there was mention made of Marylin and the Kennedys. According to the paper, after the stuff about Marylin and John and Bobby came out, Joe Di Maggio STOPPED sending flowers to her grave! He had done it for years, and then just quit.

To me that is significant, because why would Joe stop sending her flowers, UNLESS IT WAS TRUE she was envovled with the Kennedy boys.

There"s alot about her death that may never come out.

By the way Tommy Gambino being Lucky Luciano's grandson. Well he might be right about the Kennedys being invovled in her death.

No , this wasn't a mobhit. By the way, Lucky Luciano was a real lady killer. Google Thelma Todd.She was a popular film comediene who had a joint on the pacific Highway out in California. Lucky knew her husband,Pat , and tried to put the muscle on Todd in regards to gambling.

She was found dead in her car in the garage near her home. LA cops got a tip from Salt Lake City about a man who was invovled in her murder,but never followed up on the lead.Probably got some payola to look the other way.

On July 18, 1969, Kopechne attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island, off the coast of Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, held in honor of the Boiler Room Girls. It was the fourth such reunion of the Robert Kennedy campaign workers.[10]

Kopechne left the party at 11:15 p.m. with Robert's brother Ted Kennedy, after he by his description offered to drive her to catch the last ferry back to Edgartown where she was staying. Kennedy stated he made a wrong turn on the way and came upon a narrow, unlit bridge without guardrails. Kennedy drove the 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 off the bridge and it overturned in the water. Kennedy extricated himself from the submerged car but Kopechne died, after what Kennedy said were several diving attempts to free her.[5]

Kennedy contacted several aides that night, but failed to report the incident to the authorities until the car and Kopechne's body were discovered the next morning.[5] Kopechne's parents said they learned of their daughter's death from Ted Kennedy[1] before he reported his involvement to the authorities, and that they only learned he had been the driver through wire press releases some time later.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne#Death

Autopsy

The medical examiner, Dr Donald Mills, was satisfied that the cause of death was accidental drowning. He signed a death certificate to that effect and released Kopechne's body to her family without ordering an autopsy.[21] Later, on September 18, District Attorney Dinis attempted to secure an exhumation of Kopechne's body in order to perform a belated autopsy,[22] citing blood found on Kopechne's skirt and in her mouth and nose "which may or may not be consistent with death by drowning".[23] The reported discovery of the blood was made when her clothes were turned over to authorities by the funeral director.[24]

A Pennsylvania court under Judge Bernard Brominski held a hearing on the request on October 20-21.[22] The request was opposed by Kopechne's parents.[22] Eventually Judge Brominski ruled against the exhumation on December 10, saying that there was "no evidence" that "anything other than drowning had caused the death of Mary Jo Kopechne".[25 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident#Autopsy

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Kennedy's initial statement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddic...itial_statement

At 10 am Kennedy entered the police station in Edgartown, made a couple of phone calls, then dictated a statement to his aide Paul Markham, which was then given to the police. The statement ran as follows:

“ On July 18, 1969, at approximately 11:15 p.m. in Chappaquiddick, Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, I was driving my car on Main Street on my way to get the ferry back to Edgartown. I was unfamiliar with the road and turned right onto Dike Road, instead of bearing hard left on Main Street. After proceeding for approximately one-half mile on Dike Road I descended a hill and came upon a narrow bridge. The car went off the side of the bridge. There was one passenger with me, one Miss Mary [Kopechne],[15] a former secretary of my brother Sen. Robert Kennedy. The car turned over and sank into the water and landed with the roof resting on the bottom. I attempted to open the door and the window of the car but have no recollection of how I got out of the car. I came to the surface and then repeatedly dove down to the car in an attempt to see if the passenger was still in the car. I was unsuccessful in the attempt. I was exhausted and in a state of shock. I recall walking back to where my friends were eating. There was a car parked in front of the cottage and I climbed into the backseat. I then asked for someone to bring me back to Edgartown. I remember walking around for a period and then going back to my hotel room. When I fully realized what had happened this morning, I immediately contacted the police.[16]

Inquest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident#Inquest

The inquest into Kopechne's death took place in Edgartown in January 1970. At the request of Kennedy's lawyers, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ordered that it be conducted in secret.[26][27] The 763-page transcript of the inquest was released four months later.[27] Judge James A. Boyle presided at the inquest. Among Judge Boyle's conclusions in his inquest report were the following:[28]

the accident occurred "between 11:30 p.m. on July 18 and 1:00 a.m. on July 19".

"Kopechne and Kennedy did not intend to drive to the ferry slip and his turn onto Dike Road had been intentional".

"A speed of twenty miles per hour as Kennedy testified to operating the car as large as his Oldsmobile would be at least negligent and possibly reckless."

"For some reason not apparent from [Kennedy]'s testimony, he failed to exercise due care as he approached the bridge."

"There is probable cause to believe that Edward M. Kennedy operated his motor vehicle negligently ... and that such operation appears to have contributed to the death of Mary Jo Kopechne."

Under Massachusetts law Boyle, having found "probable cause" that Kennedy had committed a crime, could have issued a warrant for his arrest, but he did not do so.[29] District Attorney Dinis chose not to pursue Kennedy for manslaughter, despite Judge Boyle's conclusions.

The Kopechne family did not bring any legal action against Senator Kennedy, but they did receive a payment of $90,904 from the Senator personally and $50,000 from his insurance company.[30] The Kopechnes later explained their decision to not take legal action by saying that "We figured that people would think we were looking for blood money."[30]

Edited May 15, 2009 by acidhead

[acidhead]

By the way Tommy Gambino being Lucky Luciano's grandson. Well he might be right about the Kennedys being invovled in her death.

No , this wasn't a mobhit. By the way, Lucky Luciano was a real lady killer. Google Thelma Todd.She was a popular film comediene who had a joint on the pacific Highway out in California. Lucky knew her husband,Pat , and tried to put the muscle on Todd in regards to gambling.

She was found dead in her car in the garage near her home. LA cops got a tip from Salt Lake City about a man who was invovled in her murder,but never followed up on the lead.Probably got some payola to look the other way.

Death http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelma_Todd#Death

On the morning of December 16, 1935, Thelma Todd was found dead in her car inside the garage of Jewel Carmen, a former actress and former wife of Todd's business partner Roland West. Carmen's house was approximately a block from the topmost side of Todd's restaurant. Her death was determined to have been caused by carbon monoxide poisoning. Todd had a wide circle of friends and associates as well as a busy social life. Police investigations revealed that she had spent the last night of her life at a party at the Trocadero, a popular Hollywood restaurant, hosted by entertainer Stanley Lupino and his daughter, the actress Ida Lupino. At the restaurant, she had had a brief but unpleasant exchange with her ex-husband, Pat DeCicco. However, her friends stated that she was in good spirits and were aware of nothing unusual in her life that could suggest a reason for committing suicide.

The detectives of the LAPD concluded early that her death was accidental, the result of Todd's either warming the car to drive it or to use the heater to keep herself warm. While they never wavered from their view, other theories emerged during several weeks of investigations.

.......continues......

A third theory postulates she was murdered by New York gangster "Lucky" Luciano because of her refusal to allow him to involve her club with illegal gambling, as well as her refusal to participate in Luciano's group sex orgies. Like the Roland West story, the Lucky Luciano story was in Kenneth Anger's frequently fallacious book Hollywood Babylon. Later it was alleged to be "the true story" in Andy Edmonds' book Hot Toddy,which was later adapted into the TV movie White Hot: The Mysterious Murder of Thelma Todd. It has become the most celebrated of all theories despite the fact that there is no record of Luciano ever visiting Los Angeles, much less having an affair with Todd, or (as in "Hot Toddy") publicly threatening her at the Brown Derby.

[joyfilled]

I think it was a mafia hit. Omerta...

I think the Kennedy's had her killed.

[conspiracybeliever]

I don't think the Kennedys had her killed. I think it was accidental. She was known to have a drug problem for many years. One of the drugs was alcohol. She mixed alcohol with various other drugs. If Robert visited her & told her not to contact the Kennedys anymore she must have been very depressed. I think it was accidental but we'll never know for sure.

[Princess Serenity]

I was watching a program about Marilyn. (It was about ghosts.) And they contacted her, she said that it was her "maid" that killed her. I don't know if this is true or not. But how was the maid? Was she jealous or something?