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user posted image rThe Great Ape Trust in Des Moines, Iowa, is home to seven bonobos -- a close relative of the chimpanzee -- and three orangutans. But if you think Iowa might be a strange place for them to live, don't say it out loud … these apes understand English.

You can talk to the apes, and they know what you are saying.

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I wonder if our Simian friends in Iowa have a phrase button in their lexicon that they can push to communicate with their keepers to "LET ME THE HELL OUT OF THIS CAGE!"...the article never says.

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Better yet, what do they think of Humans???? we are very close cousins, and seems they have ability to reason, think, they can learn our languages and technologies to a point, they have emotions and just how do they feel about their human cousins? I know bonobo's are 98% human, and chimps not far off that, either...Maybe they have a solution to man's problems if man would listen???? JMO... :huh: they do know....

afterall, we as man listen to our family relatives in times of need....well, they are family to an extent... :mellow:

just for info, I remember a woman here in my hometown that had a chimp as a "pet". that chimp looked and acted just like an 8 year old kid....very friendly and always wanting ice cream, pop and to be talked to....she always dressed him and he acted just like a kid at that age... he loved watching tv and baseball : :yes:

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apes are cool...

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Teach them the Bible or God and see what happens.

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apes are cool...

that one had to be a howler...no common sense...just vocal without reason....

Edited by Bulldog1974

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apes are cool...

:lol:

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What is weird is man always talks about what apes can do....maybe it is time for apes to tell what man can do?

I really think that apes can and do understand man...but they lack the ability to translate to man, the knowledge they posess.

I have seen on tv, what chimps can do and how they interact with each other...they are human in many regards..

so maybe it is time to give these beings a chance to speak their minds?

remember, man is not the only intellegent species on this planet..chimps and bonobo's are too. :blush:

If a chimp could speak...what would they tell us? :blink:

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What is weird is man always talks about what apes can do....maybe it is time for apes to tell what man can do?

I really think that apes can and do understand man...but they lack the ability to translate to man, the knowledge they posess.

I have seen on tv, what chimps can do and how they interact with each other...they are human in many regards..

so maybe it is time to give these beings a chance to speak their minds?

remember, man is not the only intellegent species on this planet..chimps and bonobo's are too. :blush:

If a chimp could speak...what would they tell us? :blink:

Hopefully nothing along the lines of "The Planet of the Apes starts now!!!" type deal. :P

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No Planet of the Apes here, a great movie, but I think man needs to listen to chimps and bonobo's and hear what they have to say...We might be surprised...They know, but can't speak....they are man's cousins and are very intellegent. Most understand sign language and can speak through it. Just remember, they can understand man's technologies...and use them to communicate.

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No Planet of the Apes here, a great movie, but I think man needs to listen to chimps and bonobo's and hear what they have to say...We might be surprised...They know, but can't speak....they are man's cousins and are very intellegent. Most understand sign language and can speak through it. Just remember, they can understand man's technologies...and use them to communicate.

Most do not understand sign language. A few can be taught, but it is association not true thought.

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Most do not understand sign language. A few can be taught, but it is association not true thought.

Yes, most can understand sign language. they can communicate their wants and needs through it. You are wrong. it is not by association. it is because they have

learned how to communicate...

Edited by Bulldog1974

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Most do not understand sign language. A few can be taught, but it is association not true thought.

Nevermind.

Edited by cyqe

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Yes, most can understand sign language. they can communicate their wants and needs through it. You are wrong. it is not by association. it is because they have

learned how to communicate...

So they understand it without being taught. Wow. Humans even need help with that.

Also, are you having many conversations with the monkeys. No. I thought not.

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So they understand it without being taught. Wow. Humans even need help with that.

Also, are you having many conversations with the monkeys. No. I thought not.

Conversations? Ya, everyday..... :wacko:

No, I had a neighbor who had one, and it was just like a human child to a point...watched everything you did and tried to mimic it. They can learn on their own...

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Mannnnn I wana pet chimp too

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Mannnnn I wana pet chimp too

He always wore kids clothes and loved baseball...he could throw "not too good" but he would throw the ball back in a game of catch...and he would grin when he caught it....and laugh....just like a kid... :tu:

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Chimpanzees are just as intelligent as humans. The white man believed that the black man was non-human and unintelligent for centuries; we're just now realizing that chimpanzees are just another species of human. Just a hairier, stronger species of human. They are our brother race; and we need to realize it.

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Whenever I read news about how one animal or another is up the intelliectual ladder than another, I feel sick.

We as human beings, because we can, we do.

Which means we claim dominance and power over other life forces on the the understanding that we are more intelligent and therefore somehow further up some ethereal ladder than them and this gives us not only the power to dominate them, but that we somehow have the moral right and duty to do so in the furthering of our own importance and well-being.

Hence, the use of animals in drug tests, in farming, in any cause we feel furthers our life-expectancy.

If being intelligent is all life is about, I opt out.

I'd rather be a slug than a human-being.

At least I can exist without hurting, causing pain, demoralising, or degrading other life-forms.

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Posted (edited)

<!--quoteo(post=1717509:date=Jun 10 2007, 04:56 PM:name=Eric Raven The Skeptic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jun 10 2007, 04:56 PM) 1717509[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So they understand it without being taught. Wow. Humans even need help with that.

Also, are you having many conversations with the monkeys. No. I thought not.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Conversations? Ya, everyday..... <img src="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

No, I had a neighbor who had one, and it was just like a human child to a point...watched everything you did and tried to mimic it. They can learn on their own...

Many humans unconsciously use several hand signs during a conversation, but that is not the same as 'sign language'.

Human 'sign language' is an invented way to express letters and parts of words with your fingers/hands.

All the rest of those signs are nothing else but 'body language'. Think about a smile: every human on the planet understands that. But have you ever seen the respons of a dog when people near it all start laughing out loud? He will start barking and get all agressive, Why? Because when we laugh, we show our teeth.

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Hmm.. it appears I am necroposting now. Say, Arbitran, why do you keep digging up ancient threads??

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Edited by Abramelin

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Whenever I read news about how one animal or another is up the intelliectual ladder than another, I feel sick.

We as human beings, because we can, we do.

Which means we claim dominance and power over other life forces on the the understanding that we are more intelligent and therefore somehow further up some ethereal ladder than them and this gives us not only the power to dominate them, but that we somehow have the moral right and duty to do so in the furthering of our own importance and well-being.

Hence, the use of animals in drug tests, in farming, in any cause we feel furthers our life-expectancy.

If being intelligent is all life is about, I opt out.

I'd rather be a slug than a human-being.

At least I can exist without hurting, causing pain, demoralising, or degrading other life-forms.

All life lives off other life. In the lower animal world, rights are unheard of, so they kill and eat one another. The most intelligent ape is still far from the intelligence of a below average human being, much lower. Apes can't think philosophy, nor can they do science. While it is true that they may use tools, they have been the same tools for eons most likely. They are caught in a loop, which is good, they seem happy where they are. I do believe that we should learn to be kind to animals, though for out benefit not theirs, they have no sense of self to have any understanding in our morals or other intellectual understandings about life.

Some animals may have some self awarness, and if so, then yes we must treat them in a kinder manner. Though if their self awarenss is anywhere near what ours is, I have my doubts.

doug

Edited by dougeaton

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Chimpanzees are just as intelligent as humans. The white man believed that the black man was non-human and unintelligent for centuries; we're just now realizing that chimpanzees are just another species of human. Just a hairier, stronger species of human. They are our brother race; and we need to realize it.

That is absolute nonsense.

doug

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That is absolute nonsense.

doug

Care to explain? I don't happen to believe that modern science is nonsense, but if you do... Well, to each his own I suppose.

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