UM-Bot Posted June 3, 2007 #1 Share Posted June 3, 2007 The Great Ape Trust in Des Moines, Iowa, is home to seven bonobos -- a close relative of the chimpanzee -- and three orangutans. But if you think Iowa might be a strange place for them to live, don't say it out loud … these apes understand English. You can talk to the apes, and they know what you are saying. View: Full Article | Source: ABC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opinicus Posted June 3, 2007 #2 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I wonder if our Simian friends in Iowa have a phrase button in their lexicon that they can push to communicate with their keepers to "LET ME THE HELL OUT OF THIS CAGE!"...the article never says. O- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1974 Posted June 3, 2007 #3 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Better yet, what do they think of Humans???? we are very close cousins, and seems they have ability to reason, think, they can learn our languages and technologies to a point, they have emotions and just how do they feel about their human cousins? I know bonobo's are 98% human, and chimps not far off that, either...Maybe they have a solution to man's problems if man would listen???? JMO... they do know.... afterall, we as man listen to our family relatives in times of need....well, they are family to an extent... just for info, I remember a woman here in my hometown that had a chimp as a "pet". that chimp looked and acted just like an 8 year old kid....very friendly and always wanting ice cream, pop and to be talked to....she always dressed him and he acted just like a kid at that age... he loved watching tv and baseball : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted June 3, 2007 #4 Share Posted June 3, 2007 apes are cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primordial Posted June 3, 2007 #5 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Teach them the Bible or God and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1974 Posted June 4, 2007 #6 Share Posted June 4, 2007 (edited) apes are cool... that one had to be a howler...no common sense...just vocal without reason.... Edited June 4, 2007 by Bulldog1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora7321 Posted June 5, 2007 #7 Share Posted June 5, 2007 apes are cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1974 Posted June 5, 2007 #8 Share Posted June 5, 2007 What is weird is man always talks about what apes can do....maybe it is time for apes to tell what man can do? I really think that apes can and do understand man...but they lack the ability to translate to man, the knowledge they posess. I have seen on tv, what chimps can do and how they interact with each other...they are human in many regards.. so maybe it is time to give these beings a chance to speak their minds? remember, man is not the only intellegent species on this planet..chimps and bonobo's are too. If a chimp could speak...what would they tell us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: Posted June 8, 2007 #9 Share Posted June 8, 2007 What is weird is man always talks about what apes can do....maybe it is time for apes to tell what man can do? I really think that apes can and do understand man...but they lack the ability to translate to man, the knowledge they posess. I have seen on tv, what chimps can do and how they interact with each other...they are human in many regards.. so maybe it is time to give these beings a chance to speak their minds? remember, man is not the only intellegent species on this planet..chimps and bonobo's are too. If a chimp could speak...what would they tell us? Hopefully nothing along the lines of "The Planet of the Apes starts now!!!" type deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1974 Posted June 9, 2007 #10 Share Posted June 9, 2007 No Planet of the Apes here, a great movie, but I think man needs to listen to chimps and bonobo's and hear what they have to say...We might be surprised...They know, but can't speak....they are man's cousins and are very intellegent. Most understand sign language and can speak through it. Just remember, they can understand man's technologies...and use them to communicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skeptic Eric Raven Posted June 9, 2007 #11 Share Posted June 9, 2007 No Planet of the Apes here, a great movie, but I think man needs to listen to chimps and bonobo's and hear what they have to say...We might be surprised...They know, but can't speak....they are man's cousins and are very intellegent. Most understand sign language and can speak through it. Just remember, they can understand man's technologies...and use them to communicate. Most do not understand sign language. A few can be taught, but it is association not true thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1974 Posted June 9, 2007 #12 Share Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) Most do not understand sign language. A few can be taught, but it is association not true thought. Yes, most can understand sign language. they can communicate their wants and needs through it. You are wrong. it is not by association. it is because they have learned how to communicate... Edited June 9, 2007 by Bulldog1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pythia Posted June 10, 2007 #13 Share Posted June 10, 2007 (edited) Most do not understand sign language. A few can be taught, but it is association not true thought. Nevermind. Edited June 10, 2007 by cyqe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skeptic Eric Raven Posted June 10, 2007 #14 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Yes, most can understand sign language. they can communicate their wants and needs through it. You are wrong. it is not by association. it is because they have learned how to communicate... So they understand it without being taught. Wow. Humans even need help with that. Also, are you having many conversations with the monkeys. No. I thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1974 Posted June 11, 2007 #15 Share Posted June 11, 2007 So they understand it without being taught. Wow. Humans even need help with that. Also, are you having many conversations with the monkeys. No. I thought not. Conversations? Ya, everyday..... No, I had a neighbor who had one, and it was just like a human child to a point...watched everything you did and tried to mimic it. They can learn on their own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War-Junkie Posted June 11, 2007 #16 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Mannnnn I wana pet chimp too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog1974 Posted June 11, 2007 #17 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Mannnnn I wana pet chimp too He always wore kids clothes and loved baseball...he could throw "not too good" but he would throw the ball back in a game of catch...and he would grin when he caught it....and laugh....just like a kid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbitran Posted April 10, 2012 #18 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Chimpanzees are just as intelligent as humans. The white man believed that the black man was non-human and unintelligent for centuries; we're just now realizing that chimpanzees are just another species of human. Just a hairier, stronger species of human. They are our brother race; and we need to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistydawn Posted April 21, 2012 #19 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Whenever I read news about how one animal or another is up the intelliectual ladder than another, I feel sick. We as human beings, because we can, we do. Which means we claim dominance and power over other life forces on the the understanding that we are more intelligent and therefore somehow further up some ethereal ladder than them and this gives us not only the power to dominate them, but that we somehow have the moral right and duty to do so in the furthering of our own importance and well-being. Hence, the use of animals in drug tests, in farming, in any cause we feel furthers our life-expectancy. If being intelligent is all life is about, I opt out. I'd rather be a slug than a human-being. At least I can exist without hurting, causing pain, demoralising, or degrading other life-forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 25, 2012 #20 Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=1717509:date=Jun 10 2007, 04:56 PM:name=Eric Raven The Skeptic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jun 10 2007, 04:56 PM) 1717509[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So they understand it without being taught. Wow. Humans even need help with that. Also, are you having many conversations with the monkeys. No. I thought not.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Conversations? Ya, everyday..... <img src="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> No, I had a neighbor who had one, and it was just like a human child to a point...watched everything you did and tried to mimic it. They can learn on their own... Many humans unconsciously use several hand signs during a conversation, but that is not the same as 'sign language'. Human 'sign language' is an invented way to express letters and parts of words with your fingers/hands. All the rest of those signs are nothing else but 'body language'. Think about a smile: every human on the planet understands that. But have you ever seen the respons of a dog when people near it all start laughing out loud? He will start barking and get all agressive, Why? Because when we laugh, we show our teeth. +++ EDIT: Hmm.. it appears I am necroposting now. Say, Arbitran, why do you keep digging up ancient threads?? . Edited April 25, 2012 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougeaton Posted April 29, 2012 #21 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Whenever I read news about how one animal or another is up the intelliectual ladder than another, I feel sick. We as human beings, because we can, we do. Which means we claim dominance and power over other life forces on the the understanding that we are more intelligent and therefore somehow further up some ethereal ladder than them and this gives us not only the power to dominate them, but that we somehow have the moral right and duty to do so in the furthering of our own importance and well-being. Hence, the use of animals in drug tests, in farming, in any cause we feel furthers our life-expectancy. If being intelligent is all life is about, I opt out. I'd rather be a slug than a human-being. At least I can exist without hurting, causing pain, demoralising, or degrading other life-forms. All life lives off other life. In the lower animal world, rights are unheard of, so they kill and eat one another. The most intelligent ape is still far from the intelligence of a below average human being, much lower. Apes can't think philosophy, nor can they do science. While it is true that they may use tools, they have been the same tools for eons most likely. They are caught in a loop, which is good, they seem happy where they are. I do believe that we should learn to be kind to animals, though for out benefit not theirs, they have no sense of self to have any understanding in our morals or other intellectual understandings about life. Some animals may have some self awarness, and if so, then yes we must treat them in a kinder manner. Though if their self awarenss is anywhere near what ours is, I have my doubts. doug Edited April 29, 2012 by dougeaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougeaton Posted April 29, 2012 #22 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Chimpanzees are just as intelligent as humans. The white man believed that the black man was non-human and unintelligent for centuries; we're just now realizing that chimpanzees are just another species of human. Just a hairier, stronger species of human. They are our brother race; and we need to realize it. That is absolute nonsense. doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbitran Posted April 30, 2012 #23 Share Posted April 30, 2012 That is absolute nonsense. doug Care to explain? I don't happen to believe that modern science is nonsense, but if you do... Well, to each his own I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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