UM-Bot Posted May 3, 2008 #1 Share Posted May 3, 2008 A leading scientist has warned a new species of "humanzee," created from breeding apes with humans, could become a reality unless the government acts to stop scientists experimenting. In an interview with The Scotsman, Dr Calum MacKellar, director of research at the Scottish Council on Human Bioethics, warned the controversial draft Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill did not prevent human sperm being inseminated into animals. View: Full Article | Source: The Scotsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted May 3, 2008 #2 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Didn't that bill mention that the eggs couldn't fully grow up anyways and that the research and use would be in the very first stages anyways? Pretty sure that one of the threads here talked about the Soviets trying to develop apemen soldiers. That's what comes to mind first for me here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Quinn* Posted May 3, 2008 #3 Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) I hope the day never comes when I have to see what a "humanzee" looks like. That is just soooooo messed up. Edited May 3, 2008 by Left Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted May 3, 2008 #4 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I want to see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender. Posted May 3, 2008 #5 Share Posted May 3, 2008 It's kind of pathetic how nothing can get done these days. In the 19th and to an extent, 20th century. Science was not limited by 'animal right groups' or ethical issues, Science was able to do as it pleased and even though methods could be considered cruel, the job was always done and knowledge obtained. What is wrong with experimenting? Let's just say that this 'Apeman' did grow up and suffered some discomfort. So what? Our knowledge on the subject of human development will have increased dramatically. Isn't that worth the life of one petty creature? I know I'd give my life if it advanced knowledge in a certain field dramatically. For the greater good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Quinn* Posted May 3, 2008 #6 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I don't care about whether or not the creature would suffer any discomfort - it's the simple fact that I find it very disturbing we would want to breed a human with a chimpanzee, or any other animal for that matter. I guess it's considered old fashioned now-a-days to think doing experiments like this is wrong. It's very disturbing to me...Talk about the stuff nightmares are made from, geez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalienan Posted May 3, 2008 #7 Share Posted May 3, 2008 JMO, but I don't even believe in hybriding animals, so this to me is a little mind boggling...I would feel like I was living on "Planet of the Apes".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Dot Posted May 3, 2008 #8 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Woow, Just think about the possibilities!! Cooool!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglelox Posted May 3, 2008 #9 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Be carefull what you breath life into, it will want its life also. so what does that mean if we were created. Cool to do experiments on us? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGhost Posted May 3, 2008 #10 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Maybe an Amry of Humazees could replace illegal immigrants working cleaning toilets and picking fruit. On the other hand, this could create too many new Republican voters, so I guess I'm not for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wonny Posted May 3, 2008 #11 Share Posted May 3, 2008 This world is so stupid, Everybody looks at the extreme solution when they should be looking at the source of the problem. Why do people need all these organs? Where do all viruses and illnesses come from? Who is encourgaing population explosion? The government is poinsoning people with flu shots, chemtrails, flouride, GM food, etc.. People really need to start looking after themselves, instead of expecting other species to pick up the slack of mass human ignorance. Listen to Dr Deagle People! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted May 3, 2008 #12 Share Posted May 3, 2008 This world is so stupid, Everybody looks at the extreme solution when they should be looking at the source of the problem. Why do people need all these organs? Where do all viruses and illnesses come from? Who is encourgaing population explosion? The government is poinsoning people with flu shots, chemtrails, flouride, GM food, etc.. People really need to start looking after themselves, instead of expecting other species to pick up the slack of mass human ignorance. Listen to Dr Deagle People! Facts, proof, evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella-Angelique Posted May 3, 2008 #13 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Maybe an Amry of Humazees could replace illegal immigrants working cleaning toilets and picking fruit. On the other hand, this could create too many new Republican voters, so I guess I'm not for it. If you will check the officials put into office by illegals illegally voting in elections in California, I do believe you will find that they are all Democrats. If that is your only worry, I would not worry about it. I would worry more about the Planet of The Apes scenario. An intelligent species would find it intolerable to know that a more intelligent species existed among them and that no matter what they do or achieve, the more evolved species can and did do it faster and better. Their self esteem would hinge in most of their minds upon wiping out the superior species, forming a morally acceptable framework to commit the insane by embracing the belief that the superior species is inherently evil and they are forced into it. I suspect it takes a relatively super evolved species to accept and embrace the presence of a far more evolved one than themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000000000000000 Posted May 3, 2008 #14 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Planet of the apes scenario....... That will never happen unless we mass produce them. And first they will study one individual subject and by that will know it's potental and what else it is capable of doing. And it is chimpanzees not apes they are 4 foot what can they possibly do their intelligence will never match ours plus no one will send them to school. They would be mindless drones. Nothin more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbyte Posted May 3, 2008 #15 Share Posted May 3, 2008 and planet of the apes becomes reality.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted May 3, 2008 #16 Share Posted May 3, 2008 An intelligent species would find it intolerable to know that a more intelligent species existed among them and that no matter what they do or achieve, the more evolved species can and did do it faster and better. Their self esteem would hinge in most of their minds upon wiping out the superior species, forming a morally acceptable framework to commit the insane by embracing the belief that the superior species is inherently evil and they are forced into it. I suspect it takes a relatively super evolved species to accept and embrace the presence of a far more evolved one than themselves. There's no such thing as a more evolved species, and there's really no telling how intelligent or physically capable a humanzee would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theQ Posted May 3, 2008 #17 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Its a givin that man will always do the wrong thing....its just a matter of time for all these things we shouldn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnatude Posted May 3, 2008 #18 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I recall seeing this reported in 2005 about mixing the human with chimpanzee genes. I wish I had the link to that news blurb. Likely this experiment has already been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Boleyn Posted May 3, 2008 #19 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I believe I saw something about this on "MonsterQuest" on the History Channel. Stalin was "supposedly" testing this to make an army of them. They even had a woman who was willing to give birth to one. I think it wasn't true, but still weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunZero Posted May 3, 2008 #20 Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) When is experimentation wrong? I'm against all experiments that may cause extreme pain, suffering or grief for anyone or anything, of course excluding some cases. I really hate animal testing that is harmful to the animal. Either do tests on willing humans, or people on death row. Edited May 3, 2008 by ShaunZero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlsmith Posted May 3, 2008 #21 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Planet of the apes scenario....... That will never happen unless we mass produce them. And first they will study one individual subject and by that will know it's potental and what else it is capable of doing. And it is chimpanzees not apes they are 4 foot what can they possibly do their intelligence will never match ours plus no one will send them to school. They would be mindless drones. Nothin more. Ok, this is too funny.... are you sure the hybrids would be short? and really, the muscle strength and development of a chimp is significantly greater than a human, so if they had chimp characteristics they would be more physically dangerous than your average human. And you think it's school that increases humanity's intelligence? I rather think that a traditional schooling limits intelligence more than helping it. It would simply be another chance for us to show how much we despise life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROGER Posted May 3, 2008 #22 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I have already met a Sub Human man in a bar one night. He was dating my Ex girl friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted May 3, 2008 #23 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I have already met a Sub Human man in a bar one night. He was dating my Ex girl friend! That was you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted May 3, 2008 #24 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Its a givin that man will always do the wrong thing....its just a matter of time for all these things we shouldn't do. Why is it wrong? Provided the humanzee isn't mistreated, where's the harm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asphodel Posted May 3, 2008 #25 Share Posted May 3, 2008 It'd be an ethical dilemma. Creating such a hybrid would require us to redefine what it means to be human. People would come to recognize that "humanzees" not only share our DNA, but share like-minds, emotions, physical attributes, and mannerisms. It would cause a lot of friction, considering these beings would be created for the soul purpose of harvesting organs. There would be no excuses to allow cruel treatment. I think it'd all be an absolute mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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