Skeptologists attack Ufologists

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Greg Taylor: The skeptical superstar team pushing for their own (spectacularly ugly-named) reality TV series - 'The Skeptologists' - have gone out of their way this week to pick on ufology, in particular two researchers: Stanton Friedman and Chris Rutkowski (or maybe they just don't like Canadian residents?). 'Skeptoid' host Brian Dunning rushed into battle with his post "Stanton Friedman Doesn't Like Me". As Dunning points out in his own post though, Stan's probably got good reason not to like him, considering Dunning has previously labeled Stan (and continues to) “an obsessed UFO wacko.

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#7 Posted by Cebrakon on 17 December, 2008, 6:17

Extreme skepticism is not a new phenomenon. Galileo could not get a single one of his fellow faculty members from theU. of Padua to look through his telescope. Or even at his telescope! He and his friend Kepler had a good laugh about it. Fortunately, the Princes of the time were hard-headed businessmen, and were used to the discovery of new things by theirglobe-girdling ships. They supported Galileo the rest of his life, even after the Pope and the Inquisition forced him to abjureover the question of whether the Earth really moves. He did some of his best physics after that, worki... [More]

#8 Posted by Dogran on 17 December, 2008, 12:15

First things first: "pick on" makes it sound like the nasty ol' sceptics - sorry, skeptics - are bullying poor little ufology, the beastly people.If ufology fancies itself a science - which I hope any reasonable ufologist would agree that it's not, despite its label - then it's expected to be able to take care of itself. Like all science, if it's challenged, it should have ways to rebut those challenges. The main way in which ufology can do this is by pointing out that, regardless of what sceptics think, people have always seen, and I suspect will continue to see, ... [More]

#9 Posted by Lt_Ripley on 17 December, 2008, 16:16

agreed. As an educated person who has seen something unexplainable and very obviously not something man made nor natural , I don't believe most of what is said in regards to the subject. I think the area is polluted with too many that are delusional .that being said however , the fact that many people from single to groups have witnessed objects that they know are impossible for man or nature , need not be thrown out with the bulk of reports. Science is as well observation and many have been recorded be it video , photo to ancient text . ( I find it sad that many skeptics think this is... [More]

#10 Posted by karl 12 on 17 December, 2008, 16:45

Yes I agree,as the General of the French Air Forces of NATO said.."The number of thoughtful,intelligent,educated people in full possession of their faculties who have 'seen something' and described it grows every day.We can say catergoricaly that mysterious objects have indeed appeared and continue to appear in the sky that surrounds us".General Lionel M Chassin,French Air Forces,Air Defense Coodinator of the allied forces of NATO...but it 'is' fair to say there are some fair wacky delusional folk on 'either' side of the debate.Perhaps this is why the objecti... [More]

#11 Posted by Cebrakon on 17 December, 2008, 17:42

I don't think skeptics like James Randi or Penn and Teller have any training in science or any knowledge of scientific method. Gardner, who wrote a column for Scientific American on mathematical recreations, had no college degree of any kind, and his "debunking" methods showed that he also had no knowledge of scientific method.The essence of scientific method was classically stated by Sherlock Holmes: "When you have ruled out the alternatives, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." That is also the method used by "House", the TV dia... [More]

#12 Posted by karl 12 on 17 December, 2008, 17:50

Cebrakon good post,I found myself agreeing with Stanton Friedman's first paragraph.http://dailygrail.com/news/friedman-response-to-skeptologistStanton Friedman's rebuttal:Brian Dunning Running for Top UFO Debunker Debunker Brian Dunning must be congratulated for adhering so closely to the basic rules for debunking: A. What the public doesn't know, I won't tell them. B. Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is made up. C. If one can't attack the data, attack the people. D. Do one's research by proclamation, investigation is too much trouble.He demonstrated these in... [More]

#13 Posted by Dogran on 18 December, 2008, 0:37

'Humanoids not of this Earth', you say. And that's partly what I mean. Say 'not of this Earth' and most people will take it that you mean extraterrestrials - aliens from another planet. We can - and probably do - both accept at least the possibility that the Professor saw the creatures he described. It's possible that he was deluded - but it's also perfectly possible that he wasn't. Claiming that he was would furnish us with a nice, easy solution: he's mad (or he's lying), so we needn't trouble ourselves with something that our beloved rational... [More]

#14 Posted by thefinalfrontier on 18 December, 2008, 12:34

Couldnt agree more there Karl;Regards;TFF

#15 Posted by The Skeptic Eric Raven on 18 December, 2008, 19:59

Nah. Just about right. By the way, most skeptics crave the day when ET will be proven. We just won't hold our breath. Boo ya.

#16 Posted by REBEL on 18 December, 2008, 21:27

Skeptologists; lol! I like it, has a nice ring to it.I'm still a Fenceologist, not quite a Convinceologist yet.

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