Was the Roswell evidence switched ?

Kevin Randle: Cruising the blogoshpere the other day, I happened on a site that told me that the Roswell case was basically over and for proof offered the fact that the debris in General Ramey’s (that is Brigadier General Roger Ramey, at the time the commander of the Eighth Air Force) office had not been switched. This was based on an interview that Jaime Shandera had conducted with Colonel Thomas DuBose. For a little background, let’s review. In July 1947, seven pictures were taken in Ramey’s office of the material brought from Roswell. From the pictures, it’s clear that what Major Jesse Marcel, the Air Intelligence officer is holding, are the remnants of a rawin radar detector, launched by weather services to track winds aloft. In this case, the skeptics have suggested it was part of an array train that was used by the then highly classified Project Mogul. The point is, if this is truly what Marcel found in the desert, and this is truly the stuff that he brought from New Mexico, then we have solved the mystery. Roswell was a weather balloon and for some bizarre reason neither Marcel nor the commander of the 509th Bomb Group, Colonel William Blanchard were able to recognize it.

But in all things Roswell there is a complication. Colonel Thomas DuBose, the Chief of Staff of the Eighth Air Force, the parent organization to the 509th , and who appears in two of the pictures, said that the real debris was switched and that what was left was the balloon material. If true, then what is in the pictures tells us nothing about what was found in Roswell, and the idea of a cover-up is planted. If it was a balloon, even a top-secret Mogul balloon, there was no need for a switch.

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a Press Release, stating a Captured or down'd Disc/Flying Saucer. Then next day, retracted to say it was a weather balloon. Ever since then, such News Media relations have been carefully managed where a specific department regulates Public Relations as a fulltime rhetorical function. Lessons learned!

I believe the story that the debris shown came from the crash.

I also believe that Oswald was the lone gunman.

And I believe that Bush was victimized by Saddam because he hid all the weapons very very well before the invasion.

NOT

I believe the story that the debris shown came from the crash.

I also believe that Oswald was the lone gunman.

And I believe that Bush was victimized by Saddam because he hid all the weapons very very well before the invasion.

NOT

With government conspiracies alike, such as denying the existance of Area 51, I would believe it's possible evidence was switched to fool the public. As for Bush though, he's just making up these things. A political cowboy is bad.

Nothing was switched. The rawin device was flown in from Roswell AAF, but was not from the two crash sites. The rawin device was placed there for the purpose of a cover-up. Here is a telegram where it was suggested that a radar target be used to cover-up the Roswell incident.

WAR V WU A50 NL PD

KALAMAZOO MICH JUL 8

WAR DEPT

INTELLIGENCE DIV WASHDC

SUGGEST SAUCERS ARE RADAR TARGET FOR WEATHER OBSERVATION

PURPOSES CONTACT COL M DUFFY SPRING LAKE NEW JERSEY FOR

INFORMATION

TONY GASTON NEWS EDITOR WKZO

WKZO.

Handwritten notes:

CA from

ID (Col Boyd) to AAF (Maj Mikly)

7-9-47

Celr

RLT

C/A received

from ACB and sent to Suin

Jif (?) 7/10/47

In regards to a top-secret Mogul balloon trains, Mogul balloons were not classfied objects. The Air Force implied that Mogul balloon train #4 was responsible for the Roswell incident but there are no flight records pertaining to Mogul balloon #4, and none to be found anywhere. In other words, the Air Force concocted yet another false story involving a balloon flight that never was! What the Air Force never revealed was that the Mogul and Skyhook balloon teams in New Mexico were also reporting flying saucers as well.

Mogul Balloon Teams in New Mexico Track Flying Saucers.

...Naval Commander Robert B. McLaughlin, head of the Naval missile program at White Sands (who unequivocally stated that the flying saucers being spotted by White Sands personnel, including himself, were not only real but extraterrestrial in origin.

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Mogul_UFOs.html

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Mogul_UFOs.html

So once again, nothing was switched, it was just that the material that Marcel posed with was not what was found on the Foster ranch and at crash site number 2. As noted by General Arthur Exon, former commander of Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, where the Roswell debris was reported taken, he stated the following in an interview;

"Everyone from the White House on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our finding it."

General Arthur Exon

http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/?id=177

General Exon was also the Air Force officer who flew over the area after the crash and confirmed that there were two crash sites relating to the Roswell incident, not one. So that brings up this very important question: What crashed in 1947 that was so classified that the government feels compelled to continue on with its Roswell cover-up to this very day?

Contemplating about the source of it. but mofo usa is the king of cover ups =D however, i strongly believe they switched it

I was watching National Geographic on the Roswell incident a short time ago and it was rather a lame presentation to say the least. It goes to show that the authors of that program need to do their homework because the program suggested that a top secret Mogul balloon train was reponsible for the Roswell incident. It also said on the program that a Mogul balloon train was launched on June 4, 1947 but it was lost shortly afterwards in the clouds.

Had the folks at National Geographic done it's homework, it would have found that the Mogul balloon themselves were not classified objects at all and there was a stipulation between the CAA, now known as the FAA, and the Mogul balloon teams, the no Mogul balloon train would be launched on cloudy days because they presented a safety-of-flight hazard to aircraft. To further add, had the National Geographic done its homework, it would have found that there were no Mogul balloon flight on June 4, 1947 and in fact, records show that there are no flight records for any Mogul balloon train on June 4, 1947. This is what a downed Mogul balloon train looks like. It is rather difficult to understand how anyone could have confused all of those balloons as a downed flying saucer.

Those balloons were recovered by civilians, which is another thing the Air Force never told the public, and that is, that occasionally, Mogul balloons were recovered by ordinary civilians. Mogul balloons had these items attached.

* Reward tags for civilians recovering any Mogul balloons.

* Questionaires for civilians to add their imput as to the time, location and rate of decent of the Mogul balloons.

* Numerous***WARNING*** labels attached because of the hazardous materials within some of the equipment.

* Identification tags identifying the equipment as government property

* Serial numbers on the equipment

* Numerical dials on the equipment

* Lettering on the equipment in english

So once again, I find it difficult of how anyone could confuse a Mogul balloon train as a downed flying saucer with all of those recognizable items attached, so how in the world, or out of it, could military personnel from the world's only nuclear-capable bomber group have mistaken these balloons as a flying saucer?

Here is a lilst of other equipment carried aloft on Mogul balloon trains.

* Dribblers

* Parachutes

* Ballast tubes

* Radiosode

* Sono Buoy

* Equipment gauges

* 17.5 Mogul balloon payload.

* Braided lines

* 28 balloons of various sizes

None of the equipment listed above were ever recovered on the Foster ranch.

The Air Force never told the public that recovery of Mogul balloon trains were of low priority, which is not indicative of the way we would handle top secret equipment. Rancher, Sid West, recovered a downed Mogul balloon train in New Mexico and it wasn't until the next day that two people were sent to recover the equipment. A policeman at Flat Bush, New Jersey had recovered a downed Mogul balloon train that snagged itself on the roof of a tavern. Another Mogul balloon train was left lying next to a roadway where it was vandalized because no one came to recover the contraption. Yet another Mogul balloon train was about to be recovered by an oil drilling team east of Roswell before they were buzzed by a B-17.

According to Mogul balloon records, the Mogul balloon flight the Air Force attributed to the Roswell incident, was cancelled due to clouds and never flown, which simply is the reason why investigators can find no flight records pertaining to Project Mogul balloon train #4.

To sum it all up, the Air Force dupped the public again in 1994 by implying that Project Mogul balloon train #4 was responsible for the Roswell incident when no such flight ever took place, and the amazing thing about it, is that the Air Force knew that there were no Project Mogul balloon flight #4 launched on June 4, 1947, so in that regard, the Air Force's Rosewell 'cover-up band' plays on.

excellent skyeagle !

As for Bush though, he's just making up these things. A political cowboy is bad.

Oh, yes, you're 100 percent correct! What dictator, knowing his country may soon be invaded, would hide (or move out of the country) his weapons of mass destruction from NATO inspectors? No one is that clever! Hmphfff.

Anyway, I think we've been so overrun with false information that we may never know the truth behind the Roswell incident.

I was watching National Geographic on the Roswell incident a short time ago and it was rather a lame presentation to say the least. It goes to show that the authors of that program need to do their homework because the program suggested that a top secret Mogul balloon train was reponsible for the Roswell incident. It also said on the program that a Mogul balloon train was launched on June 4, 1947 but it was lost shortly afterwards in the clouds.

Had the folks at National Geographic done it's homework, it would have found that the Mogul balloon themselves were not classified objects at all and there was a stipulation between the CAA, now known as the FAA, and the Mogul balloon teams, the no Mogul balloon train would be launched on cloudy days because they presented a safety-of-flight hazard to aircraft. To further add, had the National Geographic done its homework, it would have found that there were no Mogul balloon flight on June 4, 1947 and in fact, records show that there are no flight records for any Mogul balloon train on June 4, 1947. This is what a downed Mogul balloon train looks like. It is rather difficult to understand how anyone could have confused all of those balloons as a downed flying saucer.

Those balloons were recovered by civilians, which is another thing the Air Force never told the public, and that is, that occasionally, Mogul balloons were recovered by ordinary civilians. Mogul balloons had these items attached.

* Reward tags for civilians recovering any Mogul balloons.

* Questionaires for civilians to add their imput as to the time, location and rate of decent of the Mogul balloons.

* Numerous***WARNING*** labels attached because of the hazardous materials within some of the equipment.

* Identification tags identifying the equipment as government property

* Serial numbers on the equipment

* Numerical dials on the equipment

* Lettering on the equipment in english

So once again, I find it difficult of how anyone could confuse a Mogul balloon train as a downed flying saucer with all of those recognizable items attached, so how in the world, or out of it, could military personnel from the world's only nuclear-capable bomber group have mistaken these balloons as a flying saucer?

Here is a lilst of other equipment carried aloft on Mogul balloon trains.

* Dribblers

* Parachutes

* Ballast tubes

* Radiosode

* Sono Buoy

* Equipment gauges

* 17.5 Mogul balloon payload.

* Braided lines

* 28 balloons of various sizes

None of the equipment listed above were ever recovered on the Foster ranch.

The Air Force never told the public that recovery of Mogul balloon trains were of low priority, which is not indicative of the way we would handle top secret equipment. Rancher, Sid West, recovered a downed Mogul balloon train in New Mexico and it wasn't until the next day that two people were sent to recover the equipment. A policeman at Flat Bush, New Jersey had recovered a downed Mogul balloon train that snagged itself on the roof of a tavern. Another Mogul balloon train was left lying next to a roadway where it was vandalized because no one came to recover the contraption. Yet another Mogul balloon train was about to be recovered by an oil drilling team east of Roswell before they were buzzed by a B-17.

According to Mogul balloon records, the Mogul balloon flight the Air Force attributed to the Roswell incident, was cancelled due to clouds and never flown, which simply is the reason why investigators can find no flight records pertaining to Project Mogul balloon train #4.

To sum it all up, the Air Force dupped the public again in 1994 by implying that Project Mogul balloon train #4 was responsible for the Roswell incident when no such flight ever took place, and the amazing thing about it, is that the Air Force knew that there were no Project Mogul balloon flight #4 launched on June 4, 1947, so in that regard, the Air Force's Rosewell 'cover-up band' plays on.

Wow, great post. That does make things seem ALOT more fishy. Like said ealier, after denying the very existence of area 51, then admitting to it's existence, how can we trust our government?

I would like to know how they knew what a flying saucer was, when kenneth arnold coined the term only days later. I don't trust my government either. Sometimes wish people saw what i saw, but maybe the truth is far bigger then anyone ever imagined. Maybe one day my flying saucer question will be answered, along with why the government covers up aliens. In my view they don't cover it up because there evil and out to get us, i think they just don't give a crap about the american public sometimes.