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Question: Dr. 58, apart from his Primary Axiom, how did Jesus suggest that people escape the False Thought Universe of Mothtet?
ANSWER: JESUS TAUGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF LOVE AND FORGIVENESS AMONG HUMAN BEINGS, AND TURNING AWAY FROM THE MATERIAL PLEASURES OF THE FALSE UNIVERSE.
Question: So if people sort of denied the pleasures of the Thought Universe, they would somehow free themselves from it?
ANSWER: YES, JESUS WOULD SAY THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARD FREEDOM.
Question: How does adopting an attitude of love and forgiveness toward one’s fellow human being free one from the illusion of the False Thought Universe?
ANSWER: JESUS SAID THAT PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY REALITY. THEREFORE, BEING LOVING AND FORGIVING TO WHAT IS REAL IS TO TURN AWAY FROM THE TEMPTATIONS OF THE FALSE UNIVERSE.
Question: Dr. 58, in our world one of the primary Christian prayers is called the Lord’s Prayer. I’ll give you the first couple of lines to see if you recognize it. “Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name ..." Do this sound familiar to you?
(Note: I did not want to quote the entire prayer so as to not contaminate Dr. 58's reply.)
ANSWER: IT SOUNDS SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR. THE CHRISTIANS HAVE A PRAYER CALLED THE MAGONIA MARY.
Question: Interesting. Can you tell us how it goes?
PRAISE MARY FROM OUTER SPACE
THOU ART THE LORD
HOLLOW BE THY WOMB
WHICH GREW THE FRUIT OF JESUS AND MOTHTET
DELIVER US THIS DAY FROM
THE CONSTRUCTION OF MOTHTET
LATHE US IN THE LIGHT OF JESUS
HOLLOW MARY, WE BEG
FREE US FROM THY SON MOTHTET
DELIVER US TO THY SON JESUS
AWAKEN US FROM OUR SLUMBER IN ILLUSION
INTO THY HOLLOW KINGDOM
FOR THINE IS THE TRUE KINGDOM
Question: And what is the origin on this prayer?
ANSWER; IT WAS GIVEN TO SHAKESPEARE BY JESUS.
Question: It’s interesting that this is called the Magonia of Mary. In our world, Magonia is a name given to a certain unearthly realm, such as the realm of Faery. What do you say?
QUESTION: I DON’T KNOW.
Question: Okay, so do Christians consider Mary to be God?
Question: So in your world, God is generally considered to be a female?
ANSWER: THAT IS THE CHRISTIAN POSITION.
Question: Dr. 58, would you say that you believe in God?
ANSWER: NOT IN THE SAME SENSE THAT THE CHRISTIANS DO.
Question: What is your concept of God?
ANSWER: I DON’T HAVE ONE.
Question: Are you an atheist, then, or an agnostic? Do you know what I mean?
ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN.
Question: Well, what is your idea about the ultimate source of all reality? Do you have a God concept, a concept of a Creator of all things?
Question: Well, how would you say you define your reality in terms of, say, religious thought, or some kind of philosophy that gets at the ultimate meaning of all existence?
ANSWER: YOUR QUESTION IS RIDICULOUS. I MOVE THROUGH LIFE.
Question: What do you think will happen to you after you die?
ANSWER: IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT I WILL DIE.
Question: But certainly, no one lives forever, don’t you agree?
Question: Don’t you have disease in your world, and wars and accidents? For example, what do you think would happen to you if the lodge that you live in caught fire and burned to the ground while you were in it?
ANSWER: SUCH A SITUATION IS RARE. PERHAPS I WOULD FLEE BEFORE BEING CONSUMED.
Question: But let’s just say, purely for speculation, that you cannot escape and that you burn up with your lodge, that your body, along with the structure of your lodge, is reduced to ashes. Would you not be at least physically dead?
ANSWER: I POSSIBLY WOULD BE PHYSICALLY DEAD, BUT I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOUR MEANING.
Question: Well, would any part of you live in a kind of afterlife -- perhaps your Manh?
ANSWER: YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK ME THAT AFTER THE EVENT OF THE BURNING.
Question: But you would be dead and gone! Your body would be ashes! How could I ask you anything?
ANSWER: YOU WOULD KNOW WHEN THE TIME CAME.
Question: Well, have you ever asked a person about their mode of existence after his or her body was destroyed in some way?
ANSWER: SUCH A LINE OF QUESTIONING SEEMS POINTLESS.
Question: Why? Don’t you wonder what comes after physical death?
ANSWER: YOU DON’T MAKE SENSE. YOU SEEM OBSESSED WITH PHYSICAL DEATH.
Question: But it seems an obvious mode of philosophy, does it not? I mean, if your parents are killed physically, wouldn’t you miss them or wonder about what happened to them?
ANSWER: I DON’T SEE WHY.
Question: Doesn’t the concept of death bother you, or don’t you wonder about it?
ANSWER: I THINK YOU AND I ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
Question: Well, how would you define death?
ANSWER: I DON’T BELIEVE THE CONCEPT IS CONDUCIVE TO DEFINITION.
Question: Why not? This seems very odd to us.
ANSWER: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU.
Question: Let’s switch gears. How is it that Jesus was blind and without hearing or ability to speak? What is the general thought about this.
ANSWER: CAN YOU NOT FIGURE IT OUT? JESUS IS THE ANTIPATHY OF THE FALSE UNIVERSE. WITHOUT SIGHT, SOUND OR VOICE, HE WAS LESS TEMPTED BY THE ENTICEMENTS OF THE FALSE UNIVERSE.
Question: Hmmm. Actually, this makes a perfect kind of sense. So was Jesus born in this condition?
Question: But if Jesus had psionic power, would that not be just another, or even better way to perceive the False Universe of Mothtet?
ANSWER: OBVIOUSLY NOT.
Question: What was the position of Jesus on Minnesota?
ANSWER: JESUS DID NOT SPEAK OF MINNESOTA. HE WAS OF THE OLD WORLD.
Question: What is the position or policy of the Catholic Church regarding Minnesota? Do they consider the strange and powerful land of Minnesota to be part of the False Universe of Mothtet?
ANSWER: THE CATHOLICS, LIKE ALL OTHERS, AVOID ANYTHING TO DO WITH MINNESOTA.
Question: Yet the Catholic priest, the Father Reston Vromin, was of the opinion that the power of Christ could conquer Minnesota. Did he have support of the Church?
ANSWER: NO. FATHER VROMIN VIEWS ON MINNESOTA WERE NOT IN LINE WITH CHURCH POLICY.
Question: Well, for Catholics who believe that Jesus and his mother Mary are the ultimate power in the universe, this whole deal with Minnesota must have shown some limits or weaknesses in the Catholic faith, do you know what I mean?
ANSWER: YES, UPON DISCOVERY OF MINNESOTA, THE PRECEPTS OF JESUS WERE CALLED FAR MORE INTO QUESTION AND RESULTED IN THE DIMINUTION OF THE CHURCH.
Question: So many Catholic must have realized that the power of Minnesota -- whatever it is -- must be in some way superior even to Jesus and Mary?
Question: What about the powerful Mayans? What is the policy of the Maya on Minnesota?
ANSWER: THEIR DEMI-GOD QUETZAL FORBIDS MINNESOTA TO THEM.
Question; So they avoid it, too? Even the Mayans! It all makes me wonder -- why does anyone ever go into Minnesota. As you said, even some of the Nazis that were traumatized in Krupp and in their homeland ended up going to Minnesota. Why would anyone go there?
ANSWER: THE SITUATION IS COMPLEX.
Question: Yeesh. Okay ... we’re going to stop here for now. Thank you, Dr. 58.