Note: I apologize to everyone for the long delay in new Dr. 58 material. Life is busy. But I have TONS of transcripts to type up and put here, so I will try to get on it. My heartfelt thanks to everyone who is coming here checking for new material daily. Thanks for your patience. And, so, here we go:
Question: Dr. 58, will you speak with us?
Question: Tell us about the Nazi extermination of the Eburneans, will you please?
ANSWER: IT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE FLOOD OF HORRORS.
Question: Yes, you have mentioned this before. What happened?
ANSWER: IN THE PREVIOUS CYCLE, THERE APPEARED OVER MINNESOTA A GREAT ERUPTION OF BLACK SMOKE. IT WAS VISIBLE FROM VERY FAR DISTANCES. THERE WAS MUCH TERROR.
Question: So something inside Minnesota was blowing up or erupting, or something, like a volcano?
ANSWER: NOT A VOLCANO. A GREAT GRITTY SMOKE CAME FORTH INTO THE SKY. A WIND CAUSED THE BLACK SMOKE TO DRIFT EAST.
Question: Would that be into Wisconsin them? Do you have a Wisconsin?
ANSWER: YES, WISCONSIN.
Question: That seems so weird to us that you have many of the same common names that we have for states as we do. What do you think? How are these areas named?
ANSWER: THE NAMES ARE FANCIFUL, OFFERED BY THE GREAT SORCERER BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.
Question: Ah, back to him again. So Ben Franklin, through the devices of the Endergonic Gnosis, somehow divined the names of places like Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin?
Question: Well, since Franklin was supposedly declared Socmal, and supposedly hanged, how is it that those names he gave to certain American location remain in use?
ANSWER: THE NAMES BECAME POPULAR. FRANKLIN WROTE MANY ROLL-UPS, BELOVED BY MANY PEOPLE. HE CREATED FANCIFUL NAMES FOR MUCH OF AMERICA. THEY CAME INTO USAGE.
Question: In our world we have 50 states. How many states are there in your America?
ANSWER: I’M NOT SURE.
Question: Well, can you give me an estimate, a round figure?
Question: Why not? I think it would be easy enough.
ANSWER: THERE IS MUCH VARIATION IN TERRITORY.
Question: Forget it for now, let’s get back to the great black smoke that drifted out of Minnesota and into Wisconsin. Is it know what caused this?
ANSWER: THERE IS MUCH SPECULATION, BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME KIND OF WAR INSIDE MINNESOTA.
Question: How would anyone know that?
ANSWER: THE SMOKE CAME FORTH FOR THREE DAYS. AT NIGHT, STRANGE FLASHES APPEARED IN THE SKY ABOVE MINNESOTA, AS IF EXPLOSIONS.
Question: Could explosive sounds be heard?
ANSWER: YES, AND MORE THAN THAT.
Question: Like what?
ANSWER: MANY STRANGE SOUNDS OF UNDESCRIBABLE QUALITY WERE HEARD FROM AFAR. THE LIGHT IN THE SKY WERE UNNATURAL.
Question: What do you mean? What kind of lights?
ANSWER: GEOMETRIC PATTERNS. BARS OF LIGHTS AT STRANGE ANGLES. LIGHT IS CRYSTALINE FORMS.
Question: Hmmm. Well, what does this have to do with this Flood of Horrors you mentioned before?
ANSWER: ON THE THIRD DAY OF THE ERUPTIONS THERE CAME DOWN THE GRADITCH CHAX A GREAT MASS OF HORROR -- DEAD BODIES OF MANY STRANGE KINDS, AND OF EXTREME NUMBER.
Question: Wow. So, apparently some kind or massive upheaval or war was occurring somewhere inside Minnesota, and many thousands of … er, people were killed. Was it the bodies of human beings that began floating out of Minnesota in the Graditch Chax?
ANSWER: MANY WERE HUMAN BEINGS. BUT MANY WERE NOT.
Question: Jeepers, what were some of the other bodies?
ANSWER: STRANGE CREATURES OF HORRIFYING QUALITY.
Question: Like what?
Question: Give us an example, will you?
ANSWER: SPIDER CREATURES THE SIZE OF BUFFALO, BUT WITH MULTIPLE HUMAN HEADS.
Question: Yeeks! These were floating dead in the Graditch Chax? Lots of them?
Question: What else?
ANSWER: OF MANY VARIETY AND HORRORS. SOME WERE STILL ALIVE AND SPEWING RANK LIQUIDS. LARGE BLOATED WORMS, PIERCED WITH SPEARS. TROLLS. LIZARD MEN. BIRD THINGS. INSECT THINGS. HORSES.
Question: Were there ordinary dead human corpses floating in the Chax?
ANSWER: YES, MANY. BUT THERE WERE EVEN MORE EBURNEANS.
Question: Whoa! Wait a minute! There were dead Eburneans floating out of Minnesota in the Graditch Chax?
ANSWER: YES. AFTER A PERIOD, THE GRADITCH CHAX SEEMED WHITE, AS IF FILLED WITH SNOW. IT WAS THE BODIES OF EBRURNEANS. FEW WERE WHOLE.
Question: What do you mean few were whole?
ANSWER: THE BODIES OF THE EBURNEANS WERE CHOPPED UP. THERE WERE MANY HEADS, ARMS, LEGS TOROS. THEIR WHITE BLOOD MADE THE CHAX AS MILK.
Question: This sounds extremely grotesque. So there were all kinds of huge dead animals and monster things, dead humans, this mixed with zillions of dead white-as-snow Eburneans. I assume this why this event was called the flood of horrors?
Question: Were some of the other people and creatures chopped up into pieces like the Eburneans?
ANSWER: YES, BUT THE EBURNEANS IN PARTICULAR.
Question: I wonder why? Well, were the Eburneans clad in war clothing? I mean, were they dressed like soldiers? Were they wearing armor or anything like that?
ANSWER: THAT IS THE RUMOR.
Question: Who was around to observe this flood of horrors? Isn’t the Graditch Chax and even the vicinity of the river avoided?
ANSWER: YES, BUT AN EVENT THIS BIG DREW MUCH ATTENTION AND THE GOVERNMENT OBSERVED. AND OTHERS.
Question: What others?
ANSWER: MAYANS. NAZIS.
Question: Hmmm. Well, is it common for foreigners such as the Maya and the Nazis to be in the interior portions of America, doing things, observing things?
ANSWER: YES, SOMETIMES.
(Note: We were going to ask about the particular politics and how all this worked, but decided this would sidetrack us, so we moved on for now, saving this discussion for later).
Question: Of course, the burning we question we have is, how is it that there were so many Eburneans inside Minnesota in the first place? You said earlier that Eburneans have always lived outside Minnesota in all parts of the world. And you also said it is the belief that that which is from inside Minnesota cannot long exist outside Minnesota. So what is the thinking here?
ANSWER: THERE WAS SHOCK ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THAT SO MANY EBURNEANS WERE INSIDE MINNESOTA WAS FRIGHTENING. NO ONE UNDERSTOOD IT.
Question: What was the general consensus, then? Did it cause a rethinking of who the Eburneans are, and their origin? I mean, it seems logical (if anything in this bizarre story could be logical!!) that Eburneans are indeed from Minnesota, since they are so weird, perhaps not even human. What do you think?
ANSWER: THIS WAS PRECISELY THE CASE MADE BY THE NAZIS.
Question: Why were the Nazis so anxious to make the case that Eburneans were actually from Minnesota, their origin, that is?
ANSWER: OF COURSE, SO THEY COULD BEGAN TO KILL THEM.
Question: I understand that the Eburneans are considered to be extremely obnoxious by the people of your world, and taboo. But, and I hope this is not a dumb question, but why were the Nazis so eager to start exterminating them?
ANSWER: THE SITUATION IS COMPLEX. THE NAZIS ARE XENOPHOBES. THEY HOLD THEMSELVES TO BE SUPERIOR TO ALL OTHERS. THE PRESENCE OF THE EBURNEANS WAS OF SPECIAL OFFENSE TO THEM.
Question: Yes, they sound a lot like the Nazis of our world. They held certain groups to be inferior to themselves, and carried out an attempt to exterminate that which we call Jews in our world -- which you know as the Hebrews.
ANSWER: THAT SEEMS STRANGE.
ANSWER: THE HEBREWS ARE A MINOR CULTURE. THEY HOLD NO GREAT PLACE IN THE WORLD. THEY ARE FEW AND QUIET.
Question: Yes, well, I get the impression that the Hebrew culture in our world was perhaps more widespread and hold a certain greater role in the make-up of the culture and geopolitics of our world -- you see, the Hebrew religion is the progenitor of Christianity in our world. In our world, Jesus was a Hebrew. This is not the case in your world?
Question: You said Jesus was from Sumer. What cultural background is associated with Jesus in your world?
ANSWER: JESUS IS SAID TO BE FROM OUTER SPACE.
Question: His mother Mary was from outer space, but was not Jesus born on Earth like any other human?
ANSWER: I DON’T THINK THAT IS THE BELIEF. HE EMERGED FROM SUMER. BUT HE COMES FROM OUTER SPACE.
Question: Okay, whatever. But back to the Nazis. Were they able to sway the other nations of the world, you Americans and the Mayans that the Eburneans were from Minnesota, and therefore unnatural, and therefore deserving to be wiped out with violence?
ANSWER: THERE WAS MUCH DEBATE. THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT. THE NAZIS WOULD KILL THE EBURNEANS. SO THEY DID SO.
Question: What about the Thor Thralldom? Did they not oppose the Nazis?
ANSWER: THE THRALLDOM OPPOSES THE NAZIS IN ALL THINGS.
Question: Could they not prevent the Nazi extermination of the Eburneans?
ANSWER: THERE IS NO WILL AMONG ANY NATION TO INTEFER WITH THE EBUREANS FOR GOOD OR BAD.
Question: Yet, the Nazis dared take this step. Were they not risking a backlash, for isn’t even harming or having anything whatsoever to do with the Eburneans highly taboo?
ANSWER: YES. BUT THE NAZIS SUSPECTED TACIT APPROVAL.
Question: And were they correct?
ANSWER: I WILL NOT SPEAK OF IT.
Question: Okay. We have an unending number of questions about this situation, but were are exhausted so simply must end it here for now. We hope to speak to you again soon, Dr. 58. Thank you.
ANSWER: VERY WELL.