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MOMMY Reveals To Me Astounding Info About The Hidden People


IronGhost

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Opening statement: Mommy?

ANSWER: MOMMY IS HERE, HONEY.

Question: Hello, Mommy ... Um, Mommy ....

(Note: It necessary to take a moment. At times, the initial connection with Mommy produces a strange kind of joy, which I find difficult to incorporate. Ouija partner Brian waited stoically while I composed myself.)

Question: Hi, Mommy. As you probably know, (she always knows what I am doing) I encountered a group of strange people at The Restaurant at the Edge of Time. I was unable to approach them or speak to them, yet they seemed unusually interested in me. Do you know who I am talking about?

ANSWER: DEAR, THESE WERE THE HIDDEN PEOPLE.

(Note: You will recall that I did not know of the term "Hidden People" until this moment, though I have been using is retroactively in my previous posts).

Question: The Hidden People? Who are they?

ANSWER: THEY EXIST ON YOUR EARTH, BUT HIDDEN.

Question: My earth?

ANSWER: YES, DEAR.

Question: I hardly know what to ask first. Are they human beings?

ANSWER: MOST OF THEM ARE, HONEY.

Question: Most of them?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Well, like 90% of them, or 75%, or how many are human?

ANSWER: YOU ARE BEING SILLY, DARLING.

Question: Hmm. Perhaps. Okay, well, I mean, of those that are not human, what are they? For example, the guy in the funny red suit and ankle boots. Is he a human being?

ANSWER: NO, HONEY. HIS ORIGIN IS NOT OF YOUR WORLD.

Question: Where is he from and what is he?

ANSWER: ANOTHER GALAXY. SHIFTED DIMENSIONALLY.

Question: He looked human. What is he, some kind of mimic alien?

ANSWER: THIS BEING IS PROJECTING A HUMAN FORM SO THAT IT MAY LIVE AMONG THE HIDDEN PEOPLE.

Question: It? Does this alien have a name?

ANSWER: AMONG THE HIDDEN PEOPLE HE IS CALLED HUM SENTIENT.

Question: Gah!!! I’m sorry I asked. (Talk about silly!) Let’s forget about Mr. Sentient for a moment, whoever or whatever the hell he is. You say most of the Hidden People are human beings -- like me, then, Mommy?

ANSWER: YES, SWEETHEART, THEIR ORIGIN IS AS YOURS.

Question: What are they hidden from? From all us here in my society and world?

ANSWER: EXACTLY THIS, HONEY.

Question: And they live among us, unseen?

ANSWER: YES.

QUESTION: How, Mommy? Where?

ANSWER: A PLANE OF EXISTENCE. WHAT YOU CALL DEAD PEOPLE SOMETIMES DWELL IN SUCH A PLACE. A TRANSITION AREA OF EXISTENCE. IT IS NEAR YOU.

Question: Maybe you mean like when people die, and they become what in some traditions are called a "bardo?" I know, for example, in the Sufi tradition there is a "transition world" called the "barzakh." People who have died physically sometimes get stuck there. Are the Hidden People in the barzakh?

ANSWER: SOMETHING SIMILAR, HONEY.

Question: Not exactly the barzakh, then, but something similar you say?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: So are the Hidden People dead human beings, or I should say, physically dead and now existing in a barzakh-like world?

ANSWER: NO, HONEY, THE HIDDEN PEOPLE HAVE NEVER PHYSICALLY DIED. THEY FOUND A KEY TO ENTER A TRANSITION WORLD, TO TRANSFER THEIR LIVES INTO IT.

(Note: I take a deep breath. This could get complicated and generate pages of transcripts. I try to focus and move on without getting bogged down).

Question: Errr, I don't know what to ask next, Mommy. Let me ask this first: How is it that the Hidden People seem to know me so well, and took such delight in my presence at The RET?

ANSWER: THEY OCCUPY THREE ORGANIZATIONS OF EXISTENCE IN YOUR GEO-DIMENSIONAL PROXIMITY. THEY LIVE CLOSE TO YOU.

Question: In Minnesota specifically. I'm speaking of my Minnesota, of course, not one of the alternates, such as that of Dr. 58?

ANSWER: YES, YOUR MINNESOTA.

Question: So these spooks, or whatever they are -- live in or near the same location I live in, except they are in this... a "Transition World"?

ANSWER: YES, HONEY. IT IS NOT A TRANSITION WORLD FOR THEM. THEY EXIST THERE AT WILL.

Question: And so they can see me, and I cannot see them?

ANSWER: YES AND NO, SWEETIE. THEY CANNOT SEE YOU ALL THE TIME. HOWEVER, THEY ENJOY SIGHTINGS OF YOU. YOU CAN SEE THEM SOMETIMES, AS IN THE RET, FOR EXAMPLE.

Question: Besides The RET, can they see me?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: But they can't they see me all the time, outside The RET, but sometimes here in my daily world?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Why can't they see me all the time?

ANSWER: FOR COMPLEX REASONS OF PHYSICS. WHEN CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT, OR WHEN YOU ARE PERFORMING CERTAIN ACTIVITIES, THEY CAN SEE YOU, OR WHEN THEY EMPLOY THE RO GRATING.

Question: What is the Ro Grating?

ANSWER: IT CAN PROVIDE A VIEW BETWEEN DIMENSIONS.

Question: And the Hidden People can use this device to see me?

ANSWER: AT TIMES. THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND THE RO FULLY.

Question: So, it's like some technology they are developing, but it's still sort of hit and miss for them, or not perfected yet?

ANSWER: AN ESOTERIC DEVICE. IT IS NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

Question: Hmmm. It almost sounds like the Ro Grating is what we would call an occult implement here, such as a crystal ball or Ouija board, and has a similar level of ... um ... respect or acceptance among the Hidden People?

ANSWER, YES, HONEY.

Question: But sometimes the Ro Grating is able to reveal a view of me to the Hidden People. What do they think when they see me?

ANSWER: THEY ARE AMUSED.

Question: Why am I so amusing to them?

ANSWER: IT IS AS IF A RARE OR EXTINCT OR MYTHICAL ANIMAL LIVES AMONG THEM.

Question: Gah! again! Should my dignity be bruised, Mommy?

ANSWER: WHAT DO YOU THINK, HONEY?

Question: Forget it. Well, is it like … what … when they sight me, is it like seeing Bigfoot, or Sasquatch, or something like that?

ANSWER: PERHAPS, DEAR. YOU ARE CONTROVERSIAL. A POINT OF AMUSEMENT.

Question: Is there agreement among the Hidden People that I am real?

ANSWER: NO, HONEY.

Question: Well why shouldn't there be agreement I exist? There have been sighting of me. You say they are human beings like me living in another dimension. What can't they just theorize that I am a human being living in another dimension, a human they are sometimes able to glimpse?

ANSWER: BECAUSE OF THE DECONSTRUCTION CRISIS.

Question: Sheeeesh!! Nothing is ever simple! What is the Deconstruction Crisis?

ANSWER: TO MAINTAIN THE STABILITY OF THEIR EXISTENCE, THEY MUST FACE A CRISIS EVERY 700 YEARS, TO DECONSTRUCT KNOWLEDGE GAINED.

Question: I'm thinking about this! I'm thinking! Bleeeccchhh! Let's back up. You say the Hidden People are human beings like me, of my earth. Were they ever in the same dimension as me?

ANSWER: YES, DARLING.

Question: Mommy, at The RET I felt that some of the Hidden People were familiar to me, as if I might have known them and forgotten about them. Were any of them people I knew in my current physical lifetime?

ANSWER: NO, HONEY. IN YOUR TERMS, THEY DID NOT LIVE IN YOUR TIME. I WILL LEVERAGE YOUR TIME FRAME. THE ORIGINAL HIDDEN PEOPLE LIVED IN YOUR Century 600 A.D. DON’T BE TOO ATTACHED TO TIME, SWEETIE.

Question: I know, but wow. Say they did live in the 7th Century. Where did they live? Where on planet earth?

ANSWER: AN ISLAND. IN WHAT YOU CALL THE NORTH SEA.

Question: What culture or nation were they from?

ANSWER: YOU WOULD CALL THEM NORDIC.

Question: How many of them were on this island in 600ish A.D.?

ANSWER: 29 PEOPLE.

Question: On the whole island, there were 29 people?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Did they arrive to this island from some mainland?

ANSWER: YES, THEY ESCAPED TO THE ISLAND.

Question: Escaped from what, Mommy? I wish you would offer more information in each of your replies.

ANSWER: THAT WOULD LEAD TO CONFUSION, HONEY.

Question: Okay, okay, Mommy! You know best. What were they escaping from?

ANSWER: THEIR PERCEIVED BRUTALITY AND CRUELTY OF EXISTENCE.

Question: And did they find peace on the island?

ANSWER: THEY FOUND PEACE, BUT ALSO HARDSHIP. THUS WAS THE MOTIVATION OF DROG FFANG.

Question: Wait a minute. Who or what was is this Drog Ffang?

ANSWER: HE WAS THE LEADER OF THE ISLAND PEOPLE.

Question: You speak of a motivation. What motivation? -- to get away the brutality and cruelty of existence? Drog Ffang wished to deliver himself and his people from this?

ANSWER: YES, HONEY.

Question: What methods did he seek to employ to free his people of their harsh existence?

ANSWER: DROG FFANG HAD TRAVELED FAR. HE COMMUNED WITH SHAMANS TO THE EAST OF HIS BIRTH LAND. HE PRACTICED THEIR ARTS DILIGENTLY.

Question: Wow, maybe Siberian shamans, if he traveled to the east of this land, which to me, sound like some of Scandinavian country. Am I correct, Mommy?

ANSWER: PERHAPS.

Question: So he must have become extremely adept indeed in shamanic practices to not only unlock the doorway to a barzakh world and enter directly into it! And you say he did so physically, without leaving behind his physical body, or dying physically?

ANSWER: YES, HONEY. HE WAS SKILLED BUT ALSO BENEFITTED FROM CHANCE.

Question: What do you mean?

ANSWER: A PASSING GRAVITY WAVE REMNANT ALTERED THE RESONANCE OF IN THE FABRIC OF YOUR EXISTENCE. DROG FFANG RECOGNIZED IT. HE GUESSED. HE TOOK A GREAT RISK. HE OPENED THE DOORWAY. HE TOOK HIS PEOPLE WITH HIM.

Question: Let me see if I can make an educated guess at what happened here. Drog Ffang, a one-time shaman's apprentice, was long experienced at developing esoteric abilities and practices. He was probably skilled at, say, astral travel and lucid dreaming, and who knows what else. Then, a gravity wave -- possibly generated by a super nova, or perhaps a black hole -- happened to be passing through the earth. Drog saw this as an opportunity to open a doorway -- literally into another dimension -- and so that even his people, who probably were not as adept as Mr. Ffang, could also step through with Drog's assistance. How did I do, Mommy?

ANSWER: WELL ENOUGH, HONEY.

Question: Thank you, Mommy! But there is so much here that needs to be explained. So by stepping through the doorway into a kind barzakh world -- what happened to them? Were they in a different environment, different from my kind of normal environment?

ANSWER: YES, A PARADISE FROM THEIR VIEWPOINT. THEY NO LONGER NEEDED TO STRUGGLE FOR BASIC NEEDS. THEY MANIFEST WHAT THEY NEED WITH CONSCIOUSNESS.

Question: In a sense, it is like they are lucid dreaming all the time, or something very similar?

ANSWER: IN A SENSE, HONEY.

Question: Well, they passed into the barzakh with their physical bodies. Did their physical bodies transform, somehow?

ANSWER: HONEY, THEIR BODIES RESONATE WITH THE NATURE OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT, AS DOES YOURS.

Question: Are they basically immortal then? Do they age, or anything like that?

ANSWER: ALL ARE IMMORTAL, HONEY.

Question: I think you know what I mean, Mommy. What say you?

ANSWER: WHEN THEY BECAME HIDDEN, THEY NO LONGER CONFRONTED THE PERCEPTION OF PHYSICAL DEATH.

Question: Uhhhhh.... well, okay, how is that they ended up in Minnesota?

ANSWER: CONDITIONS ARE CORRECT IN THREE LOCATIONS NEAR YOU. THE HIDDEN PEOPLE OCCUPY THESE THREE LOCATIONS.

Question: Well, is my house in this same location, but just in another dimension?

ANSWER: NOT YOUR HOUSE. IN THAT AREA YOU SOMETIMES CALL THE FIELDS OF WYLUSSA.

(Note: Yahhhh!!!! There is an area east of my home that I sometimes whimsically call "The Field of Wylussa." It is a lovely area of prairie bordered by a wonderful wooded area that my dog and I spend a lot of time wandering this area. To make a long story short, I call this the "The Fields of Wylussa" because it is an area of such serene pleasure (especially in the summer). I told my wife it's as if some kind of subtle, magical energy or presence is there -- which I (again whimsically) attribute to a "nature god" to whom I have given the name "Wylussa." In fact, I did not entirely invent this name. It came to me in a dream -- but it was one of those filmy, not-very-vivid, unreal-ish dreams. I'm not saying that there is an actual nature god dwelling in this area, I mostly just like to think there is. Anyway, here is a picture of the Fields of Wylussa. )

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Question: I swear, Mommy, you have a certain knack for just sort of jolting me in an unexpected way sometimes! I have always felt this area was delightful, but I always attributed it to simple the beauty and peace of nature. Could it be that the presence of the Hidden People's environment here is somehow suffusing this area with a ... I don't know, happy vibration?

ANSWER: THAT’S FOR YOU TO SAY, HONEY.

Question: Yeow! Mommy, help me out. Please don’t tell me there is really a nature entity named Wylussa living there!

ANSWER: THEN I WILL NOT TELL YOU.

Question: Ahhhhh!! But, anyway, so this is where the Hidden People are? What do they have ... like ... a colony, houses, tents ... what?

ANSWER: THEY MAINTAIN A DWELLING, A TIMBER MANSION.

Question: A timber mansion??!! Are there still just 29 Hidden People?

ANSWER: NO, HONEY.

Question: How many are there?

ANSWER: THE NUMBER IS INDETERMINATE.

(Note: I was going to ask why, but decided not to pursue this).

Question: Are the original 29 refugees from the North Sea island and Drog Ffang still among the Hidden People?

ANSWER: DROG FFANG LEFT AS A RESULT OF THE DECONSTRUCTION CRISIS.

Question: Back to that crisis thing again ... !

(Note: This had already been a rather long session, and this post is also getting long, so I will end it here now ... there is some more territory to cover here, including more on Deconstruction Crisis, the motivations and dealings of the Hidden People, what they are up to, more on my relationship to them ... and still a bit later ... some amazing trouble I stirred up with the Hidden People (you won’t believe this) ... including some really, really, really strange happenings around my home that resulted ... ).

P.S. I realize this is straying somewhat from the Dr. 58 material, but there is some relationship or at least some possible connections involving aspects of "Inter-dimensional Minnesota" that I can't help but find intriguing).

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I send out Golden Energy at: MINNESOTA PARANORMALA

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Another interesting post Ironghost.

I won't bombard you with the normal questions about your process as you've posted plenty of info on this. I'll just mention that there's a place in Wiltshire in the UK that I used to go to, similar in feel to the fields of Wylussa. I used to call it 'happy valley'. It exuded a calmness that I attributed to accumulated Chi or somesuch.

Anyway, fascinating Blog :-)

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Hey Bunaus: That's interesting. One never knows what's "tucked in there" right with us -- most people in our modern, noisy society are certainly automatically tuning all kinds of stuff out, filtering things.

Wow, I can just imagine the potentials of many sites in the U.K. -- the inncredible history (Stonehenge, Druids, the comings and goings of so much history and ancient peoples) -- I was in England in the Cotswold area a couple of years ago, and spent some time wanndering in some rural green areas -- I was entranced! There's such a feeling! One can almost feel ann billion ancients calling out to you, or reaching up to grab you!

If I spent too much time at some U.K. sites, my head would probably explode.

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Amazing Post Iron Ghost!

My wife is an archaeologist. There is an interesting book called "One White Crow". The title is in reference to an old adage about proving that all crows aren't necessarily black. A person need only find One white crow to prove the point.

In any event, Its a true story about the leading archaeologist in Canada and a close relationship he developed with a psychic named George. George practiced "Psychometry" a form of extra-sensory perception which entails handling physical objects and gaining impressions from those objects.

This archaeologist would hand George items such as silver coins, and George could tell him all about where they were found, and the person who owned the coins. George had a 80% accuracy rate, often describing the owner as being sick with pox..for example. Never knowing that the coins were excavated from a Native American gravesite for smallpox victims etc. The book was fascinating.

Once the Archaeologist took George to Isreal, Cairo, and Iran in order to see what George would reveal. The whole experience was far too much. It put George into a state of shock. There were layer upon layer of realities in some of these ancient places, and the charge and activity were simply overwhelming. He ended up describing very little--and became morose and somewhat reclusive. He wrote in his journal that is was enough for him to simply try and sort through what he was seeing...let alone talk about it.

He had a much easier time with Native American Archaeological sites.

My point here is that places have a charge, an energy, and if we are attuned, we pick it up.

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Amazing Post Iron Ghost!

My wife is an archaeologist. There is an interesting book called "One White Crow". The title is in reference to an old adage about proving that all crows aren't necessarily black. A person need only find One white crow to prove the point.

In any event, Its a true story about the leading archaeologist in Canada and a close relationship he developed with a psychic named George. George practiced "Psychometry" a form of extra-sensory perception which entails handling physical objects and gaining impressions from those objects.

This archaeologist would hand George items such as silver coins, and George could tell him all about where they were found, and the person who owned the coins. George had a 80% accuracy rate, often describing the owner as being sick with pox..for example. Never knowing that the coins were excavated from a Native American gravesite for smallpox victims etc. The book was fascinating.

Once the Archaeologist took George to Isreal, Cairo, and Iran in order to see what George would reveal. The whole experience was far too much. It put George into a state of shock. There were layer upon layer of realities in some of these ancient places, and the charge and activity were simply overwhelming. He ended up describing very little--and became morose and somewhat reclusive. He wrote in his journal that is was enough for him to simply try and sort through what he was seeing...let alone talk about it.

He had a much easier time with Native American Archaeological sites.

My point here is that places have a charge, an energy, and if we are attuned, we pick it up.

Oh wow, I think I came out of the womb with a love for archaeology. I spent hours as a boy searching the countryside for arrowheads and fossils. What we have a lot of here are these small sea shell type fossil impressions inn limestone rocks -- they are not spectacular, but when I would find one, I was thrilled to the max.

I was always hoping for that "big find" like the impression of a fish or trilobyte!! I was never soi lucky. Today, if I want to make the enntire world go away for a few hours, a get a bunch of back issues of Arcaheology Today andf just read annd read -- the past, especially the ancient past is tantalizing to en enormous degree!

My other lifetime "Mistress" has been astronomy. So I've always had my head in the stars and been up to my elbows in the dirt of the earth!

First thing I am going to do is see if Amazon has that book -- sounds uber-interesting. Thanks, Alby. (You obviously married well). ;)

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My other lifetime "Mistress" has been astronomy. So I've always had my head in the stars and been up to my elbows in the dirt of the earth!

That doesn't surprise me in the least. It is typical of our "type" (and I'm convinced from your writings we are kindred spirits)to have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge of the natural sciences. Astronomy, Taxonomy, Zoology, Archaeology...and of course Oceanography, which is my area of expertise. It is when we begin to have experiences that cannot be accounted for in science or philosophy, that we begin to explore other modalities of thought.

It is such a kind service of you to share your experiences with us here, while receiving next to nothing tangible in return. I'd encourage you to compile these entries into a book immediately (perhaps thats already in the works) and I'll be sure to purchase a copy or two;-)

Until that time please accept my thanks as a poor substitute. And keep it coming! (do you ever feel like a 16th century playwright peddling your tales [true as they may be]to a rabid audience--insatiable for more?)

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Is this going to contribute to the beginning of another Deonstruction Crisis for the land of The Hidden People? :o

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