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What do I really believe?

markdohle

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What do I really believe?

“Death is nothing else but going home to God,
the bond of love will be unbroken for all eternity.” – Mother Teresa

Many people believe that faith is some form of absolute assurance. I do not believe that. From my own limited experience, there will always be room for some doubt. I think that is healthy and when ‘doubt’ is rejected and pushed underground it can manifest itself in other ways. Being overly defensive as opposed to simply sharing one's faith and viewpoint is one such way. Or extreme rigidity to keep a sense of ‘personal infallibility’ intact is also a common way of dealing with wanting the impossible; that is having absolute assurance. This goes for both believers as well as for those who don’t have a faith of any kind. There seems a need to be ‘right’ in opposition to others.

My faith, which I am deeply rooted in, does not spare me from the deep questions of life. Nor does it surround me with a warm blanket of some better life after this one. No, it tells me that in the midst of this life, with all of its chaos, pain, and deep absurdity…is where my salvation, my deeper true eternal life is. As St. Paul says: “We are God’s work of art”. Sounds good, until you see what an artist has to do in order to create a work of art. In some forms of art, the process can be dirty, messy, and chaotic,…yet, in the end, a work of beauty is produced. Faith in God is not about pretending to have cookie cutter answers, though many try it for a while.

One day I was giving a talk, as I was speaking the thought came to me; “do I really believe in what I am saying”. It was an uncomfortable moment, but in the end, I said ‘yes’, I do believe it. Yet I felt buffeted by this question. Faith is lived, not spoken of. Anyone can talk, write and share deeply, but to live it, well that comes from one's ‘inner guts’. I also believe it takes a type of stubbornness to keep searching, seeking and not being afraid of one's ‘inner agnostic’.

Some people tell me that belief in God is a form of mental illness. I always find that entertaining since it so self-serving to make that kind of observation. As if that is some form of deep truth. What constitutes mental illness is really a cultural construct. A person who is a hapless victim of true mental illness is someone who is outside the broad spectrum of human activity that is considered ‘normal’. I guess in an atheistic state, it is understandable for the government to say that religious believers, are mentally ill, yet are they in fact? The atheists I know are no more normal than the believers I am friends with. For an atheist to say a believer is mentally ill has no basis in reality. Granted mentally ill people who are religious will still be mentally ill, the same goes for an atheist as well. Because they act out in ways that go beyond what is considered ‘normal’ and ‘acceptable’.

Who is touch with reality? Perhaps none of us are no matter what we say we believe. I can say we are each in touch with a small slice of reality and as we grow hopefully our connection will deepen. I can say this. If God exists then believers are closer to the true nature of reality than an atheist. The opposite can be true as well. The problem is that that question will never be answered in a reductionist manner There are rational reasons to believe in an infinite intelligence. It is also rational to believe that such and Intelligence will seek to reveal itself…Which for me is Jesus Christ. Just because someone is an unbeliever and disagrees with me is not a test for mental competency, unless maybe I lived in China or some other atheistic run Government. Or if believe that I can fly and walk through walls no matter how many times I fail to accomplish that deed.

Mother Teresa was a woman of deep faith, however, she often felt alone, in darkness, yet her faith endured. Below is a quote from her that shows this in a profound manner. She was a woman grounded in the reality of faith as well as showing her deep love and trust in her Lord. She is praying from a place of deep suffering, yet she embraces it. I believe that it is grace that draws this prayer from her deepest self. Many people understand Mother Teresa and where she is coming from. Others have to make their own decisions on how to interpret her. I do so from my Catholic Tradition where the “Dark Night of the Soul” is something that we will all have go through if we want to become God’s true work of art. The ‘death to self’ is an act of pure grace yet we have to give our ‘yes’.--Br.MD

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Jesus, hear my prayer. If this pleases you, if my pain and suffering, my darkness and separation gives you a drop of consolation, my own Jesus do with me as you wish, as long as you wish, without a single glance at my feelings and pain. I am your own. Imprint on my soul and life the sufferings of your heart. Don’t mind my feelings; don’t mind even my pain, if my suffering separation from you brings others to you, and in their love and company you find joy and pleasure.

My Jesus I am willing with all my heart to suffer all that I suffer not only now, but through all eternity if this was possible. Your happiness is all that I want. For the rest, please do not take the trouble even if you see me faint with pain. All of this is my will. I want to satiate your thirst with every single drop of blood that you can find in me. Don’t allow me to do you wrong in any way. Take from me the power of hurting you … I am ready to wait for you through all eternity.”
—Mother Teresa of Calcutta in a letter to Jesus, from Mother Teresa: Come Be My Light



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I can't like this Brother Mark and always had issues with her as a former humanitarian aid worker. She kept her patients in filth, did not give them proper food or medical treatment. Yet gathered a lot of money world wide. A relative of mine, a prominent physician, was abhorred when he visited one of her hospices. 

She believed in "suffering as a way to God", which is a completely barbaric concept and allowed the people she cared for to suffer. 

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Helen of Annoy

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1 hour ago, Piney said:

I can't like this Brother Mark and always had issues with her as a former humanitarian aid worker. She kept her patients in filth, did not give them proper food or medical treatment. Yet gathered a lot of money world wide. A relative of mine, a prominent physician, was abhorred when he visited one of her hospices. 

She believed in "suffering as a way to God", which is a completely barbaric concept and allowed the people she cared for to suffer. 

Doing all you can to ease the suffering certainly sounds like saner choice to me too. 

Still I could like Mark's post because 'dark night of the soul' is very real concept to me personally and the 'work of art' allegory is absolutely logical - again, to me personally. Mother Theresa apparently had different personal interpretation of both than me. Mildly put.  

I'm trying to say that in my opinion Mark has the point, we can't discover ourselves without effort. (I prefer that effort to include easing the suffering, of others and me too. It's just natural compassion. Also, Jesus was healing people, not telling them to go and suffer more.)

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46 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Still I could like Mark's post because 'dark night of the soul' is very real concept to me personally and the 'work of art' allegory is absolutely logical - again, to me personally. Mother Theresa apparently had different personal interpretation of both than me. Mildly put.  

 

This I can agree with. 

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Davros of Skaro

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"Some people tell me that belief in God is a form of mental illness."

 

I used to think this, but now I see Theism as thought addiction.

 

 

 

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markdohle

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Merry DMAS"Some people tell me that belief in God is a form of mental illness."

 

I used to think this, but now I see Theism as thought addiction.

 

It is an opinion

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Davros of Skaro

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On 1/8/2019 at 6:02 PM, markdohle said:

It is an opinion

One is backed up by belief, while the other with evidence. 

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5 hours ago, MERRY DMAS said:

One is backed up by belief, while the other with evidence. 

Really?  I think you have an assumption based on a belief system, but show me the evidence. Your will not find any, just more opinions.

 

Peace
Mark....

 

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Davros of Skaro

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59 minutes ago, markdohle said:

Really?  I think you have an assumption based on a belief system, but show me the evidence. Your will not find any, just more opinions.

 

Peace
Mark....

 

It's in my signature with more to come.

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Helen of Annoy

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2 hours ago, MERRY DMAS said:

It's in my signature with more to come.

Signatures don't show in comments in the blog section. 

Not that it matters, I'm just giving you the evidence that your 'evidence' sometimes isn't there. You think it is, but objectively there's nothing.

 

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I pity god to think that people who believe in him are this cruel and insane

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I will tell you what I know, I know I would like to hear why your opinion on what you believe regarding this question about nature.

Do you believe that nature is a force that:

  1. is capable of producing one-time occurences which are exceptions to the laws of cause and effect found in nature; or
  2. is not capable of producing one-time occurences which are exceptions to the laws of cause and effect found in nature.

While I believe opinion matter little when facts are present, I will say that as far as my own opinion, I personally believe that nature is incapable of producing one time-events which contradicts the known or observed reaction from a given action, if you know what I mean. 

But with that opinion and the necessary funds you can go to any coffee house and by yourself a cup of coffee.

On 1/8/2019 at 5:02 PM, markdohle said:
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Merry DMAS"Some people tell me that belief in God is a form of mental illness."

 

I used to think this, but now I see Theism as thought addiction.

 

It is an opinion

Well, if they are telling you that belief in truth is a form of mental illness then I would tell them that I know that they were telling me the truth because it is written, "Have faith in God".  Then watch the cray crays start telling you what they believe God said. 

19 hours ago, skrubby said:

pity god to think that people who believe in him are this cruel and insane

As if people who don't believe in truth are any beacon of hope.

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