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Urantia- and some of W.S. Sadler's Nastiness


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80:2.2 (890.6) The purer indigo elements moved southward to the forests of central Africa, where they have ever since remained. The more mixed groups spread out in three directions: The superior tribes to the west migrated to Spain and thence to adjacent parts of Europe, forming the nucleus of the later Mediterranean long-headed brunet races. The least progressive division to the east of the Sahara plateau migrated to Arabia and thence through northern Mesopotamia and India to faraway Ceylon. The central group moved north and east to the Nile valley and into Palestine.

"Long Headed"......This caught my interest. 

Then I found this.

https://archive.org/details/longheadsroundhe00sadl/page/n8

'Long Heads and Round Heads or What's the Matter with Germany'

Anybody wishing to slug through it is more than welcome. Northern Asians and Algonquians are round headed so it made me throw up a little in my mouth.

This idea was also grabbed by many "Developmental Centers" ruining lives, people written off as stupid because the shape of their skull........

Here's another of Sadler's gems...."Racial Hygiene"  Shweeet! 

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Hygiene is a selfish cause, which aims to improve the pres ent generation ;
 eugenics is a truly altruistic enterprise which looks ahead and works for the improvement of the next and future generations. 

https://archive.org/details/racedecadenceexa00sadluoft/page/n6

I love this one.......

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“In the forests man has always deteriorated; human evolution has made progress only in the open and in the higher latitudes. The cold and hunger of the open lands stimulate action, invention, and resourcefulness. While these Andonic tribes were developing the pioneers of the present human race amidst the hardships and privations of these rugged northern climes, their backward cousins were luxuriating in the southern tropical forests of the land of their early common origin.”
 

This is lovely.......The finest agriculturalists in the world were the agro-foresters. Some techniques can't be reproduced even today. While Urantia describes the Garden of Eden as little more than a oversize WPA farm. Sadler completely missed the fact that agro-foresters did create a literal Garden of Eden. One that even maintained itself. While his "Adamites" worked their butts off and dealt with poor sanitation in his imaginary red brick WWII Era farmstead. 

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28 minutes ago, Will Due said:

The papers that were published in 1955 as the Urantia Book were written in 1934-35. The authors of the Urantia Book do not promote the killing of anyone.

I didnt said they did, but its the hole book thats toxic.

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The term 'eugenics' is used in the UB as a reference to improving peoples lives biologically. Not to eliminate them before they have an opportunity to be alive.

Eugenics is about the manipulation of the genetic pool. Again, every idea and/or any attempt for a genetic manipulation is based on exclusion of tribes/genetic lines. Thus, every idea and/or any attempt for a genetic manipulation in between 1934 and 1955 consider sterilization at least. BTW 1934, was Heinrich Himmler a co-autor of the book? Henry Ford maybe as well?

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Grim Reaper 6

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2 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

Very well said. All of that is exactly what the UB says. Except it adds this:

Every human being is equally capable of achieving enlightenment like those who are revered today as prophets. In fact, it lays out how normal and universal it is. 

In so doing, it emphasizes that everyone is special while no one is special. 

 

 

No that is not What UB said, what I am simply saying is there are no GODS.

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Davros of Skaro

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9 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

The relevant thing about Thought Adusters is that everyone is indwelt by one. However diverse we are as individuals, either by race, by intellectual capacity, by spiritual aptitude, and so on, it makes us all equal.

The manner of how our thoughts are being adjusted are identical.

The racial element is not involved at all and in the confines of this blog Piney, isn't that highly relevant?

 

 

 

 

Thank you. 

 

Every mortal who is consciously or unconsciously following the leading of his indwelling Adjuster is living in accordance with the will of God.

 

Can you really realize the true significance of the Adjuster’s indwelling? Do you really fathom what it means to have an absolute fragment of the absolute and infinite Deity, the Universal Father, indwelling and fusing with your finite mortal natures? When mortal man fuses with an actual fragment of the existential Cause of the total cosmos, no limit can ever be placed upon the destiny of such an unprecedented and unimaginable partnership. In eternity, man will be discovering not only the infinity of the objective Deity but also the unending potentiality of the subjective fragment of this same God. Always will the Adjuster be revealing to the mortal personality the wonder of God, and never can this supernal revelation come to an end, for the Adjuster is of God and as God to mortal man.

 

Origin and Nature of Thought Adjusters

 

 

^This is the most weirdest description for the Dopamine Reward System I have ever seen.

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Davros of Skaro

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6 hours ago, Will Due said:

The papers that were published in 1955 as the Urantia Book were written in 1934-35.

Let me correct that for you. 

The UB was created, and fiddled with by a group of people of various professions for roughly around 20 years before being published. 

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11 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

Racism is the state of mind that says if you think you're superior to others, you have the right to oppress them.

The UB does not support this.

Eventhough it points out the racial differences between us, it emphasizes the brotherhood of all mankind and how that's due to the fatherhood of God. 

 

 

Hey Will

That's a big steaming pile of horse hockey. It outright states superior races.

The superior tribes to the west migrated to Spain and thence to adjacent parts of Europe's

Saddler and the UB are a disgrace to the species.

 

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Anyone who keeps talking about their own race, is surely a racist. How could it be otherwise ? When people talk to me about their pride in their culture, and especially when they don't even live the culture, I know I am dealing with a mental midget.

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Holy **** this is ******g racist its unbelievable. Lmao. Are you 100% certain this is from the Urantia Book? The fact that this book supports eugenics…im like WTF. I suspect whoever wrote this was a nazi sympathizer. I can’t believe ppl actually support this book…this is ridiculous.

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1 hour ago, Normandy888 said:

Holy **** this is ******g racist its unbelievable. Lmao. Are you 100% certain this is from the Urantia Book? The fact that this book supports eugenics…im like WTF. I suspect whoever wrote this was a nazi sympathizer. I can’t believe ppl actually support this book…this is ridiculous.

Direct cut and paste from the Urantia website. 

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newbloodmoon

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Holy shait biscuits with cold gravy and a rough reach around. I think I gave this Urantia Wackadoodie nonsense a cursory look over decades ago. No wonder I purged this stuff from my brain.

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6 hours ago, newbloodmoon said:

Holy shait biscuits with cold gravy and a rough reach around. I think I gave this Urantia Wackadoodie nonsense a cursory look over decades ago. No wonder I purged this stuff from my brain.

I didn't even touch on the "Adamites" bringing their "advanced culture" to the Chinese yet. :lol:

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quiXilver

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holy fkkking hells!

That such tripe exists is nearly beyond belief.

That people read it, identify with it and support it, is demoralizing in the extreme.

Will... any remote bits of slack I used to cut you when reading your @$$backwards world views are gone forever mate.

Unbefkkinglievable tripe.

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Hammerclaw

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On 7/5/2023 at 8:00 AM, Piney said:

I didn't even touch on the "Adamites" bringing their "advanced culture" to the Chinese yet. :lol:

Was that their official missionary position?

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Here's a real gem...

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While pottery wad first introduced by the staff of the Prince about one half million years ago, the making of clay vessels had practically ceased for over one hundred and fifty thousand years. Only the gulf coast pre-Sumerian Nodites continued to make clay vessels. The art of pottery making was revived during Adams time. The dissemination of this art was simultaneous with the extension of the desert areas of Africa, Arabia and central Asia and it spread in successive waves of improving techniques from Mesopotamia out over the Eastern Hemisphere.

The oldest Pottery vessels are found in Jiangxi, China and date to 18,000 B.C. and they spread Westward.

Annnd wait for it.....

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These civilizations of the Andite age cannot always be traced by the stages of their pottery or other arts. The smooth course of human evolution was tremendously complicated by the regimes of both Dalamatia and Eden. It often occurs that the later vases and implements are inferior to the earlier products of the purer Andite peoples.

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18 minutes ago, Piney said:

The oldest Pottery vessels are found in Jiangxi, China and date to 18,000 B.C. and they spread Westward.

 

The oldest found so far. Are you closed to the possibility that there might be pottery buried somewhere that's much older?

 

 

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Will Due

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Anti-Semitism in the Urantia Book 

 

175:2.1 (1909.1) The fact that the spiritual leaders and the religious teachers of the Jewish nation onetime rejected the teachings of Jesus and conspired to bring about his cruel death, does not in any manner affect the status of any individual Jew in his standing before God. And it should not cause those who profess to be followers of the Christ to be prejudiced against the Jew as a fellow mortal. The Jews, as a nation, as a sociopolitical group, paid in full the terrible price of rejecting the Prince of Peace. Long since they ceased to be the spiritual torchbearers of divine truth to the races of mankind, but this constitutes no valid reason why the individual descendants of these long-ago Jews should be made to suffer the persecutions which have been visited upon them by intolerant, unworthy, and bigoted professed followers of Jesus of Nazareth, who was, himself, a Jew by natural birth.

175:2.2 (1909.2) Many times has this unreasoning and un-Christlike hatred and persecution of modern Jews terminated in the suffering and death of some innocent and unoffending Jewish individual whose very ancestors, in the times of Jesus, heartily accepted his gospel and presently died unflinchingly for that truth which they so wholeheartedly believed. What a shudder of horror passes over the onlooking celestial beings as they behold the professed followers of Jesus indulge themselves in persecuting, harassing, and even murdering the later-day descendants of Peter, Philip, Matthew, and others of the Palestinian Jews who so gloriously yielded up their lives as the first martyrs of the gospel of the heavenly kingdom!

175:2.3 (1909.3) How cruel and unreasoning to compel innocent children to suffer for the sins of their progenitors, misdeeds of which they are wholly ignorant, and for which they could in no way be responsible! And to do such wicked deeds in the name of one who taught his disciples to love even their enemies! It has become necessary, in this recital of the life of Jesus, to portray the manner in which certain of his fellow Jews rejected him and conspired to bring about his ignominious death; but we would warn all who read this narrative that the presentation of such a historical recital in no way justifies the unjust hatred, nor condones the unfair attitude of mind, which so many professed Christians have maintained toward individual Jews for many centuries. Kingdom believers, those who follow the teachings of Jesus, must cease to mistreat the individual Jew as one who is guilty of the rejection and crucifixion of Jesus. The Father and his Creator Son have never ceased to love the Jews. God is no respecter of persons, and salvation is for the Jew as well as for the gentile.

 

Interesting thing for a racist to write, don't you think?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Will Due said:

 

Anti-Semitism in the Urantia Book 

 

175:2.1 (1909.1) The fact that the spiritual leaders and the religious teachers of the Jewish nation onetime rejected the teachings of Jesus and conspired to bring about his cruel death, does not in any manner affect the status of any individual Jew in his standing before God. And it should not cause those who profess to be followers of the Christ to be prejudiced against the Jew as a fellow mortal. The Jews, as a nation, as a sociopolitical group, paid in full the terrible price of rejecting the Prince of Peace. Long since they ceased to be the spiritual torchbearers of divine truth to the races of mankind, but this constitutes no valid reason why the individual descendants of these long-ago Jews should be made to suffer the persecutions which have been visited upon them by intolerant, unworthy, and bigoted professed followers of Jesus of Nazareth, who was, himself, a Jew by natural birth.

175:2.2 (1909.2) Many times has this unreasoning and un-Christlike hatred and persecution of modern Jews terminated in the suffering and death of some innocent and unoffending Jewish individual whose very ancestors, in the times of Jesus, heartily accepted his gospel and presently died unflinchingly for that truth which they so wholeheartedly believed. What a shudder of horror passes over the onlooking celestial beings as they behold the professed followers of Jesus indulge themselves in persecuting, harassing, and even murdering the later-day descendants of Peter, Philip, Matthew, and others of the Palestinian Jews who so gloriously yielded up their lives as the first martyrs of the gospel of the heavenly kingdom!

175:2.3 (1909.3) How cruel and unreasoning to compel innocent children to suffer for the sins of their progenitors, misdeeds of which they are wholly ignorant, and for which they could in no way be responsible! And to do such wicked deeds in the name of one who taught his disciples to love even their enemies! It has become necessary, in this recital of the life of Jesus, to portray the manner in which certain of his fellow Jews rejected him and conspired to bring about his ignominious death; but we would warn all who read this narrative that the presentation of such a historical recital in no way justifies the unjust hatred, nor condones the unfair attitude of mind, which so many professed Christians have maintained toward individual Jews for many centuries. Kingdom believers, those who follow the teachings of Jesus, must cease to mistreat the individual Jew as one who is guilty of the rejection and crucifixion of Jesus. The Father and his Creator Son have never ceased to love the Jews. God is no respecter of persons, and salvation is for the Jew as well as for the gentile.

 

Interesting thing for a racist to write, don't you think?

It says they were punished for rejecting someone who doesn't even fit their description of THEIR Messiah. So yes, it is..

1 hour ago, Will Due said:

 

The oldest found so far. Are you closed to the possibility that there might be pottery buried somewhere that's much older?

 

 

Not in the Middle East or Anatolian region.

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Sherapy

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14 minutes ago, Piney said:

It says they were punished for rejecting someone who doesn't even fit their description of THEIR Messiah. So yes, it is..

Not in the Middle East or Anatolian region.

And, it wasn’t the Jews who crucified the historical Jesus. I honestly read the UB excerpt as very racist and offensive too. It is a gaslighting piece.
 

 

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8 minutes ago, Piney said:

It says they were punished for rejecting someone who doesn't even fit their description of THEIR Messiah. So yes, it is..

 

It says:

"we would warn all who read this narrative that the presentation of such a historical recital in no way justifies the unjust hatred, nor condones the unfair attitude of mind, which so many professed Christians have maintained toward individual Jews for many centuries."

That's a clear rebuke of white supremacy. 

 

8 minutes ago, Piney said:

Not in the Middle East or Anatolian region.

 

It's interesting how archeologists always refer to something dug up as "the oldest" when obviously, everything buried is far from being uncovered.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

And, it wasn’t the Jews who crucified the historical Jesus. I honestly read the UB excerpt as very racist and offensive too. It is a gaslighting piece.

 

Yes it is very racist what white supremacists did in the 30's and 40's to the Jews in Germany. And it was very racist what white supremacists in America thought about the Jews during the same period. 

If William Sadler was a racist, why would he write something as scathing as that about Anti-Semitism?

 

 

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