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Below the seeming absurdity


markdohle

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Below the seeming absurdity

Is that all there is
Is that all there is
If that's all there is, my friends
Then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is-Peggy Lee

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I have often felt that there is an obvious absurdity to our existence. For me, what can make life somewhat ridiculous is that it is so very short. True, when young, time can go slow. I can remember when the two weeks Christmas vacation from school was an eternity. So much time, so much to do, yet it seemed to drag on, on some days.

One day in High School our teacher was talking about our future. She was really trying to make us think about retirement. Not an easy task when the class is made of 16-17-year-olds. So she went around the room asking the students about their future. When she came to me I simply said: “My future? I will die.” She thought I was being sarcastic, but I was not.

It was not that I did not love life, I did. I loved playing, dancing, not studying so much (just ask my teachers), it was just that I could not hold on to anything, it was all like sand.

I guess that was why even as a child I hated deep wells that seemed to have no bottom. There was a certain terror for me to think about falling in and never hitting bottom. I guess it was a symbol of death for me. It did not damper my zest for life, but kind of dampened what I wanted to do with my life.

I felt sort of trapped as a teenager. Probably a very common experience. I did not like being young. Yet so much of adult life that I saw seemed so meaningless. I think this showed that there was something missing inside of me. To this day I have not been able to pinpoint it. Just a feeling that life, much of it, was much ado about nothing at all. Yet I knew that that was not really true. It was just something in me that allowed that to be so present to me. Was all of life just sand flowing through my fingers into nothingness?

When young I had nightmares every night. Mostly lucid dreams, I knew I was dreaming. It had it all, years before I saw horror movies. They would start with me being in a dark wood, fog, clammy, and me alone. The road had small stones on it and was difficult to walk on. Then ‘they’ came. They were Zombie-like and coming for me. They would chase me, and I would run. Every night until I was ten, now I may have a nightmare once a year if that. I guess I made my quota.

Perhaps that is why I deepen my relationship with the Eternal. Being Catholic I studied my faith to see what it was all about. It kept me on the path. It made me see that the apparent nothingness of our lives and its absurdity was an illusion, there was something deeper and more lasting. So over the years when I was a child and in High School my faith kept me grounded and safe from falling into despair.

I have no doubt that if I were an atheist, I would probably be an extreme one. I still have doubts, but my relationship with Jesus keeps me on track and seems to not want to let go of me.

My peace and my joy flow from my faith. I have experienced grace and that has happened only because of the gift of trust that the Lord has given me. I had to choose to trust of course, but as soon as I did, the grace of healing over my deeply biased understanding of life has slowly changed. Yet the seeds are still there.

I try to live my faith and have learned that to argue over it is a waste of time, which only drives parties in such a ‘debate’ further apart in more extreme positions. I am actually very bad at a debate. When I am with someone who has no doubts about their stance, I tend to freeze up, and just stop. I doubt that will ever change. However, I do share my faith with those who ask, and I try to listen to the faith path of others.

Job, was a man of faith, who in his childlike trust in God was able to be himself. He opened up to the Lord his pain, anger, and frustration; but never lost faith. That is what I seek to do, to take deep root, and just get through each day.-Br.MD

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I'm seriously considering starting my own blog, and before I construct mine I wanted get an idea how others have constructed theirs, and how to run it. I'm assuming with a blog we are expecting visitors, and also to keep them coming. Obviously making it interesting and entertaining will draw the crowds, and to keep them coming we must keep the material fresh, by having frequent new entries, as a minimum.

If I may be allowed to ask some questions, although you are free not respond.

Why start a blog? What is the main objective? Obviously one reason has to be sharing. Based on what I have briefly seen from visiting your blog, and others, I see the sharing of inner thoughts, experiences, hobbies, religion, philosophy, political views, owned business, employment, etc. Do we want comments on the entries? Lots of them? Or are we to be satisfied if we have mostly, silent visitors? I suppose that depends on our main objective? 

Another key question is this. Why not share the blog material on the Forum section? What are the pros and cons? Obviously certain material shared here on the blogs in not a matter for discussion on the Forum side. But I see some material which could be, and engaging in discussions with others who may knowledgeable in the subject, could provide some good feedback with constructive criticism, if our ideas and beliefs should contains some errors, or not being sound.

Mark, I would appreciate any assistance with ideas on setting up a successful and effective blog. And I'll tell you that the two main subjects of my blog, as a start, would be dealing with Theology and Philosophy. Mainly an attempt to show parallels between Plato's dialogues and the Bible, both the Old and New Testaments. Once I have successfully established the connection, in this initial phase, I plan to take that success, and move onto the second phase, using it as the foundation for placing my platform on, so that I may use it as a solid and firm stand, from which to leverage the lifting of a very, very, heavy load. As I will attempt to mount an incredible underwater salvage operation, one never undertaken before. And which is expected to bring to the surface, from the deepest abyss, for all to see none other than a very large continent-size island(s), Plato's Atlantis.  I would consider the first-phase as being successful, if at least 50 will be made to clearly see, and faithfully accept the parallel connections. Of special concern is making the 50 see, clearly, that the ideal, and perfect city-state founded by Socrates and friends, in Plato's Republic, is the parallel to the City of God, the capital city of God's Kingdom. I need a real solid stand for leveraging A water-soaked Atlantis, as it has been underwater thousands of years. And like Archimedes said, give me a place to stand, and with my lever I'll lift the world. I'm not so rash as to attempt lifting the whole earth, but only a couple of continents.

Would you, Mark, be interested in being one of the first 50? I mean, could you see yourselves being moved by me into believing that Socrates' city-state is the earthly reflection of the heavenly City of God? St. Augustine, after all, did catch some glimpses of similarities, as he was a Platonist, a NeoPlatonist to be exact, besides being a Christian. A saintly Christian, at that.

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Helen of Annoy

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If I may butt in...

25 minutes ago, Pettytalk said:

And like Archimedes said, give me a place to stand, and with my lever I'll lift the world. I'm not so rash as to attempt lifting the whole earth, but only a couple of continents.

Well, there's your problem. Undefined someone has to give you a place to stand. You need a fulcrum outside the world to move the world. Yeah, a continent too. Still too large to move with a fulcrum on Earth. 

Archimedes' lever does imply the use of lever is limitless, at first glance, but upon closer look it actually points out there's obvious limitation in use of levers. He knew there was no lever long enough and no fulcrum outside this world at his disposal, so his theoretic remark was indeed theoretic. Mechanically speaking. 

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I will deal first, with why I don't post on the forums all that often.  My content seems to offend some since I am very pointed on what I post about.   Also, I do not like debate, too old, too tired, and it all has been said, more or less. 

People who post on the forums are a thoughtful bunch for the most part, and many live to debate, and good for them. 

I started writing when I was 50 years of age, 23 years ago, and for some reason need to share what I write, if I don't they feel stillborn.   I may outgrow that.

One point.  If you make your blog too intellectual you may not attract too any readers.  Put some personal aspects into the mix.  I can tell you are a clear writer, and a good one, so I wish you luck.  If ou want to post on the forums be prepared to spend a lot of time debating.  I am sure you would be good at it. 

Blogs here do not get a lot of visitors, but enough to make it worthwhile.  The forums is another matter, as you may already know.  Lots of energy over there.
Peace
Mark
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On 11/17/2021 at 2:46 PM, Helen of Annoy said:

If I may butt in...

Well, there's your problem. Undefined someone has to give you a place to stand. You need a fulcrum outside the world to move the world. Yeah, a continent too. Still too large to move with a fulcrum on Earth. 

Archimedes' lever does imply the use of lever is limitless, at first glance, but upon closer look it actually points out there's obvious limitation in use of levers. He knew there was no lever long enough and no fulcrum outside this world at his disposal, so his theoretic remark was indeed theoretic. Mechanically speaking. 

You may butt in, and you have, mechanically speaking. Butt-ins are welcomed, the ones that have had no surgical lifting done. I'm looking out from my back door, too. I'll have a plain 360 panoramic view, if they also butt in from the left and the right, too. I want the full view. But to be polite, and let us term it, Walk ins. As my door will open if I hear knocking, but not all will be allowed to enter. 

If you have not followed me in some of the Atlantis subject threads, I accept your exhortations and encouragements, without any reservations of borrowing, You may only know me from the perspective of playing games, mind games using words, where we have had the pleasure of following and preceding each other, elsewhere in the Forum. To be clear, as clear as can be, know that my stand is not mechanical, as it's divine, and therefore out of this world. There, surely, from a point in heaven, I have a place to stand on from which I may be able to lift up the truth about Atlantis, out of the deep waters of ignorance? Provided my heaven is not just another cloudy castle in the air, I'll have a solid base to stand on. A much needed essential fulcrum, faith!

As far as levering, Archimedes and I go a long way back, and were actually Paisani, at one time or another. I know the man and what he was capable of lifting. He too was inspired from above. He also knew well the art on how to stay afloat, especially with irony. Hell! we all exaggerate, sometimes, mechanically speaking. Like the Bible, or Plato, or Archimedes, and many other inspired works and people, we are not to be taken literally, sometimes. But, literally speaking, unless I have convinced 50 others, that indeed, I have a base in heaven, to stand on, which is truly of a divine nature, I'll only end up getting an hernia trying to lift it up by myself. And I will not attempt to leverage any support by brute physical force. Because if I cannot first persuade anyone that God had a hand in writing the story of Atlantis, I cannot lift the imagined sunken island out of the settled shoals of the muddy waters of fiction. Because those seeking for an Atlantis in the past are on par with those that truly believe that it's just fiction. I need to stop here, because we seem to have, unintentionally, hijacked Mark's blog. I need to get back to mine, where all this stuff belongs.

 

 

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On 11/18/2021 at 7:10 AM, markdohle said:
 
I will deal first, with why I don't post on the forums all that often.  My content seems to offend some since I am very pointed on what I post about.   Also, I do not like debate, too old, too tired, and it all has been said, more or less. 

People who post on the forums are a thoughtful bunch for the most part, and many live to debate, and good for them. 

I started writing when I was 50 years of age, 23 years ago, and for some reason need to share what I write, if I don't they feel stillborn.   I may outgrow that.

One point.  If you make your blog too intellectual you may not attract too any readers.  Put some personal aspects into the mix.  I can tell you are a clear writer, and a good one, so I wish you luck.  If ou want to post on the forums be prepared to spend a lot of time debating.  I am sure you would be good at it. 

Blogs here do not get a lot of visitors, but enough to make it worthwhile.  The forums is another matter, as you may already know.  Lots of energy over there.
Peace
Mark

Thanks, I needed that. I cannot say that I was not aware of the pros and cons of debating on the forum side. I was even debating with myself on why I could not do both? Provided the Administrator, a very kind soul, but a firm one, allows it. I would take only the pros on the forum side, and bring them to the pros of the Blog side. Eliminating all the cons, here and there. But I don't want to con you, as you look honest enough, because if you see something in my literary abilities, I can assure you that I beg, barrow, and steal words from the sources that I can get away with. Those rich sources are merely turning a blind eye to my borrowing and stealing, as they are tired of listening to all my begging. I hope you drop in on my blog, from time to time, as I do here, as I need faithful souls for my base to strengthen, I have a heavy load to bear.

There are some very intelligent people here at UM, intelligent fortune tellers too, that is for sure. I was told once on another forum, a few years back, that if I could win over some support here, I may have a possible best seller on my hands. Praise be to God, and all the book royalties I'll give to the poor, as He would have it. Besides, who needs money were we are all going, up or down, the admission is free. But there is no standing on the 5th. Nobody will be allowed to enter with their physical senses. Those who are citizens of Atlantis, or have friends who are, will see the irony of the 5th, if they know that particular constitution, too.

May the Lord sustain us, and our efforts.

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