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  2. Well then he shouldn't send emails telling people they will be sent another email. But never mind. I will bow out now!
  3. Well done! So you spotted my deliberate mistake - and hence proved my point! If I get Neville mixed up with father Joseph, then I can't possibly know anything about anything, and especially not Apollo. I knew someone wouldn't be able to resist it. Of course, you are not going to believe a word of what I have just written ...
  4. Lady Arbuthnot's Chamber (Question)

    Hi SWoH, Further to my previous post, here's something you can try at home - a little experiment if you like. (Indeed, you can all try this). Get about 50 sheets of A4 paper. Copy some hieratic signs onto the pages. Find the darkest room in your house (a cellar would be ideal). Affix the 50 pages to three of the walls, placing them no higher than 3 feet. Turn all the lights off and ensure the room is pitch black. Give two family members (or friends) a lit candle each. Tell them to enter the darkened room with their candle (closing the door behind them). Ask them to search the walls (no higher than three feet) for signs of any strange markings in, let's say for 15 minutes. When they exit, ask them if they noticed any strange markings on the walls. Try the experiment a number of times with two different people. I'd be surprised in the extreme if a single one of your family or friends reported back to you that they saw nothing. Try it. SC
  5. "Fire safety experts warn many of the 1,700 buildings identified as "at risk" in England are likely to fail new tests into cladding and building materials. "Hospitals, schools, nursing homes and tower blocks are among buildings which could be under threat, BBC 5 live Investigates has learned. "The government said it will monitor the test results this summer to decide if any immediate action needs to be taken." Full report at the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48387380 Or listen at BBC Radio (if available in your region): https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0005fgl Nobody wants to pay for putting it right. "The government will fully fund the replacement of unsafe aluminium composite material (ACM) cladding on high-rise private residential properties where building owners have failed to do so "Communities Secretary the Rt Hon James Brokenshire MP calls time on “reckless” building owners who have refused to take action "New funding estimated at £200 million to ensure this work takes place urgently." At HM Gov: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-fund-and-speed-up-vital-cladding-replacement
  6. My thoughts on aliens

    You know, free energy and anti-grav the alyenz have.
  7. Religion versus Fiction

    Have you lost track of what you're arguing, or it just me? I don't think a real Daenerys commands real dragons; compare Pope Francis who professes that a real Michael battles a real dragon, Satan. There is a difference between these two mental states, and the difference is not subtle. Even if I were wasting my time, and Pope Francis is wasting his, only one of those wastings would be of any interest to atheists as atheists. Also, the phrase "suspension of disbelief," at least in American English, refers only to mental stances like mine relative to GOT, and not to what Francis professes about his own mental state relative to heavenly politics. (Nor, on the off chance that Francis is uncandid about his real beliefs, does the phrase refer to hypocrisy, either). Aside: I gave him one of mine on your behalf
  8. Theresa May to resign on 7 June

    Boris is a very machiavellian character to the point its like the book `The Prince` is his mantra. He even acts as the scruffy jester to divert attention away from him so people think he isn't a threat. We cannot trust a word that comes out of the guys mouth and he is very slippery. He is the type to say he will give us a Hard Brexit then find a reason to make it fail so it turns into a soft one. I dont trust him, and I dont want him as PM. He is missing personal integrity.
  9. Tommy Robinson standing for MEP

    I'll take that as a .... 'no' we appear to have a communication problem.... never mind ....
  10. Theresa May to resign on 7 June

    Does he do his hair that way on purpose?
  11. Rusia must release detained Ukrainian sailors

    Thats getting out of hand: russian propaganda presents chinese firefighters as their own. Russians still have some place ahead of North Korea... (at 2:48, in Russian)
  12. Humans have the privilege of choosing abortion versus life. Humans have the privilege to discuss "when is life - life" and "when is life - a non-sentient clump of cells". This easily plugs into the whole "what is moral to eat and what is not moral to eat" saga. At the end of all this moralizing - all I see is just a whole lot of hypocrisy and a call to conflict (nothing new for humans) - however - nature is laughing AND moving on! When it comes to abortion - yes, some mothers will abuse the choice they have and use abortion as a form of post-coital birth control instead of pre-coital birth control. Some other mothers will be denied the right to abortion and it will cost them (and their baby) - their life. Those are the extreme ends of that spectrum. Along the middle - there will be countless cases where it's a good thing, it's a bad thing - it could have been avoided - it shouldn't have been avoided. I agree with you that mankind is disturbing, but it is disturbing to itself. It is only mankind that has pioneered hypocrisy and contempt towards itself. It is only mankind who has for some reason given itself the role of the "steward of nature" - thinking that when it speaks on behalf of itself - it speaks for the whole of universe. What arrogance!
  13. Based on what evidence, Creighton? You said that you were going to talk about Vyse’s journal—not his published work, his journal: what he wrote day by day, on the spot, in Egypt—yet you’ve shown us not one image of it and quoted not one word of it. Why is that? Why have you fallen back on the published work? I think we know. Clue: M.
  14. I think you mean Neville Chamberlain.
  15. Theresa May to resign on 7 June

    Thats the official place to do speeches outside 10 Downing Street. In all fairness she is the only PM that has blubbered on her way out, but she is female so we can forgive her for that. It must have been quite stressful for her seeing that she has been the most unluckiest PM yet. She didnt really get a chance to make her mark.
  16. The forum owner says he doesn't send confirmation emails: I don't send emails when accounts are approved since I have no way to know if a new user is really just a bot collecting my email address. The forum gets around 20-30 new users per month. Most of them are obviously spammers so I reject them. The rest are usually ambiguous enough that I am gambling when I approve them... they could be legit users or they could be spammers.
  17. Tommy Robinson standing for MEP

    Wow indeed. Unbelievable. Ok be like that, this discussion is over.
  18. Jowett indeed did not consider the story of Atlantis as having any truth in it. He clearly states that, in his opinion, it's an invention, a total fabrication by Plato. However, we can garner much from Jowett's introduction for all of Plato's work that he translated into English. E.g. The Critias is a fragment which breaks off in the middle of a sentence. It was designed to be the second part of a trilogy, which, like the other great Platonic trilogy of the Sophist, Statesman, Philosopher, was never completed. Timaeus had brought down the origin of the world to the creation of man, and the dawn of history was now to succeed the philosophy of nature. The Critias is also connected with the Republic. Plato, as he has already told us (Tim.), intended to represent the ideal state engaged in a patriotic conflict. This mythical conflict is prophetic or symbolical of the struggle of Athens and Persia, perhaps in some degree also of the wars of the Greeks and Carthaginians, in the same way that the Persian is prefigured by the Trojan war to the mind of Herodotus, or as the narrative of the first part of the Aeneid is intended by Virgil to foreshadow the wars of Carthage and Rome. The small number of the primitive Athenian citizens (20,000), ‘which is about their present number’ (Crit.), is evidently designed to contrast with the myriads and barbaric array of the Atlantic hosts. The passing remark in the Timaeus that Athens was left alone in the struggle, in which she conquered and became the liberator of Greece, is also an allusion to the later history. Hence we may safely conclude that the entire narrative is due to the imagination of Plato, who has used the name of Solon and introduced the Egyptian priests to give verisimilitude to his story. To the Greek such a tale, like that of the earth-born men, would have seemed perfectly accordant with the character of his mythology, and not more marvellous than the wonders of the East narrated by Herodotus and others: he might have been deceived into believing it. But it appears strange that later ages should have been imposed upon by the fiction. As many attempts have been made to find the great island of Atlantis, as to discover the country of the lost tribes. Without regard to the description of Plato, and without a suspicion that the whole narrative is a fabrication, interpreters have looked for the spot in every part of the globe, America, Arabia Felix, Ceylon, Palestine, Sardinia, Sweden. Timaeus concludes with a prayer that his words may be acceptable to the God whom he has revealed, and Critias, whose turn follows, begs that a larger measure of indulgence may be conceded to him, because he has to speak of men whom we know and not of gods whom we do not know. Socrates readily grants his request, and anticipating that Hermocrates will make a similar petition, extends by anticipation a like indulgence to him. Critias returns to his story, professing only to repeat what Solon was told by the priests. The war of which he was about to speak had occurred 9000 years ago. One of the combatants was the city of Athens, the other was the great island of Atlantis. Critias proposes to speak of these rival powers first of all, giving to Athens the precedence; the various tribes of Greeks and barbarians who took part in the war will be dealt with as they successively appear on the scene. In the beginning the gods agreed to divide the earth by lot in a friendly manner, and when they had made the allotment they settled their several countries, and were the shepherds or rather the pilots of mankind, whom they guided by persuasion, and not by force.
  19. I agree with everything you say here, Helen, but particularly with the part I've put in bold. I think this is the first time I've seen this point mentioned in a discussion about abortion and it's very important.
  20. Banned CFCs traced to China

    They deny it's true. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201905/25/WS5ce89e94a3104842260bdb5c.html
  21. Lady Arbuthnot's Chamber (Question)

    Just ONE box of tissues and you actually managed to FIND it. Well done. That's more than Vyse was able to do. Now imagine if there were about FIFTY boxes, there were TWO of you searching for them and you spent 15-30 minutes in your search. How difficult would it have been, even in candle-light, for the both of you to find a single one of the boxes? SC
  22. Now I'm scared too. And I don't scare easily!
  23. There is a good reason for introducing the Zombies into the picture, so as to frame an interesting reference within the Critias dialogue, as it relates to Atlantis. Therefore I thank Sir Wearer of Hats for mentioning them, and bringing them to court. Basically, the Zombies, representing dead people coming out of their graves and back to life, are similar to Plato's earth-born which are mentioned, primarily, in the Critias, the Republic, and the Statesman dialogues. The Statesman contains the main clue as to how we are to interpret the intended meaning, for a better understanding of the story of Atlantis. And the clue as to the earth-born is at least twofold, as it gives indication to two separate events. From the Critias: I have before remarked in speaking of the allotments of the gods, that they distributed the whole earth into portions differing in extent, and made for themselves temples and instituted sacrifices. And Poseidon, receiving for his lot the island of Atlantis, begat children by a mortal woman, and settled them in a part of the island, which I will describe. Looking towards the sea, but in the centre of the whole island, there was a plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile. Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side. In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth-born primeval men of that country, whose name was Evenor,
  24. Climate Change is a Hoax

    Read the 2040 bible today, and yep, the graphic artist they paid did a great job, but more of the same BS, unfortunately. Wind turbines and solar will dramatically reduce power prices, eventhough it won't, and the "things will progressively get worse from now on", and the classic, remarks of "biblical flooding and more severe weather patterns, blah, blah". I read the biblical flooding several times, (front of the book) to remember it, and no, he didn't say, "dogs and cat's living together" but maybe next time. A good example of a greenie, with some good motivations about cleaning up his act, but then takes it too far with the usual, CO2, increasing temp's, melting ice, repent, and so forth. He would have had to find a few million to produce this doc/fantasy/joke for the cinemas,.....probably DeCaprio? And like others, his brainwashed kids motivated him, through coming home, and writing their last will and testament, in between becoming vegetarians and condemning their parents to purgatory for not taking action. I guess some parents would say, "don't worry it is BS", and others would say, "l am so sorry, l am evil l know". What we really need is a real Global warming the Real Facts movie, but with Attenborough's self condemnation, and others, l guess they are hanging themselves? Read some of the twitter remarks today, or one in the paper, which included the words of *****ing renecks, never go to Queensland again, disgusted, and the usual Australia will burn, idiots, morons, and so forth. Probably the funniest thing l have read this week, to see a nutter go nuts. But you probably have to live in AU, to get that one, (labour has been a dark cloud over us for some time, and not it is gone). Oh yeah, the 2040 book, sorry bible, also has large images of childrens faces. It worked with Microsoft and Windows 10, and we all know what a wonderful OS that is!
  25. I don't believe you

    My question was addressed to someone who believes it.
  26. Related reports... "Trash found littering ocean floor in deepest-ever sub dive" Full report at Reuters: https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-environment-pollution/trash-found-littering-ocean-floor-in-deepest-ever-sub-dive-idUKKCN1SJ24L "Victor Vescovo descends 36,000ft into the abyss, finding plastic bags and four new species" At iNews: https://inews.co.uk/news/environment/mariana-trench-dive-victor-vescovo-depth-new-species-plastic/
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