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  2. Theresa May to resign on 7 June

    Thats the official place to do speeches outside 10 Downing Street. In all fairness she is the only PM that has blubbered on her way out, but she is female so we can forgive her for that. It must have been quite stressful for her seeing there has been the most unluckiest PM yet. She didnt really get a chance to make her mark.
  3. The forum owner says he doesn't send confirmation emails: I don't send emails when accounts are approved since I have no way to know if a new user is really just a bot collecting my email address. The forum gets around 20-30 new users per month. Most of them are obviously spammers so I reject them. The rest are usually ambiguous enough that I am gambling when I approve them... they could be legit users or they could be spammers.
  4. Tommy Robinson standing for MEP

    Wow indeed. Unbelievable. Ok be like that, this discussion is over.
  5. Jowett indeed did not consider the story of Atlantis as having any truth in it. He clearly states that, in his opinion, it's an invention, a total fabrication by Plato. However, we can garner much from Jowett's introduction for all of Plato's work that he translated into English. E.g. The Critias is a fragment which breaks off in the middle of a sentence. It was designed to be the second part of a trilogy, which, like the other great Platonic trilogy of the Sophist, Statesman, Philosopher, was never completed. Timaeus had brought down the origin of the world to the creation of man, and the dawn of history was now to succeed the philosophy of nature. The Critias is also connected with the Republic. Plato, as he has already told us (Tim.), intended to represent the ideal state engaged in a patriotic conflict. This mythical conflict is prophetic or symbolical of the struggle of Athens and Persia, perhaps in some degree also of the wars of the Greeks and Carthaginians, in the same way that the Persian is prefigured by the Trojan war to the mind of Herodotus, or as the narrative of the first part of the Aeneid is intended by Virgil to foreshadow the wars of Carthage and Rome. The small number of the primitive Athenian citizens (20,000), ‘which is about their present number’ (Crit.), is evidently designed to contrast with the myriads and barbaric array of the Atlantic hosts. The passing remark in the Timaeus that Athens was left alone in the struggle, in which she conquered and became the liberator of Greece, is also an allusion to the later history. Hence we may safely conclude that the entire narrative is due to the imagination of Plato, who has used the name of Solon and introduced the Egyptian priests to give verisimilitude to his story. To the Greek such a tale, like that of the earth-born men, would have seemed perfectly accordant with the character of his mythology, and not more marvellous than the wonders of the East narrated by Herodotus and others: he might have been deceived into believing it. But it appears strange that later ages should have been imposed upon by the fiction. As many attempts have been made to find the great island of Atlantis, as to discover the country of the lost tribes. Without regard to the description of Plato, and without a suspicion that the whole narrative is a fabrication, interpreters have looked for the spot in every part of the globe, America, Arabia Felix, Ceylon, Palestine, Sardinia, Sweden. Timaeus concludes with a prayer that his words may be acceptable to the God whom he has revealed, and Critias, whose turn follows, begs that a larger measure of indulgence may be conceded to him, because he has to speak of men whom we know and not of gods whom we do not know. Socrates readily grants his request, and anticipating that Hermocrates will make a similar petition, extends by anticipation a like indulgence to him. Critias returns to his story, professing only to repeat what Solon was told by the priests. The war of which he was about to speak had occurred 9000 years ago. One of the combatants was the city of Athens, the other was the great island of Atlantis. Critias proposes to speak of these rival powers first of all, giving to Athens the precedence; the various tribes of Greeks and barbarians who took part in the war will be dealt with as they successively appear on the scene. In the beginning the gods agreed to divide the earth by lot in a friendly manner, and when they had made the allotment they settled their several countries, and were the shepherds or rather the pilots of mankind, whom they guided by persuasion, and not by force.
  6. I agree with everything you say here, Helen, but particularly with the part I've put in bold. I think this is the first time I've seen this point mentioned in a discussion about abortion and it's very important.
  7. Banned CFCs traced to China

    They deny it's true. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201905/25/WS5ce89e94a3104842260bdb5c.html
  8. Lady Arbuthnot's Chamber (Question)

    Just ONE box of tissues and you actually managed to FIND it. Well done. That's more than Vyse was able to do. Now imagine if there were about FIFTY boxes, there were TWO of you searching for them and you spent 15-30 minutes in your search. How difficult would it have been, even in candle-light, for the both of you to find a single one of the boxes? SC
  9. Now I'm scared too. And I don't scare easily!
  10. There is a good reason for introducing the Zombies into the picture, so as to frame an interesting reference within the Critias dialogue, as it relates to Atlantis. Therefore I thank Sir Wearer of Hats for mentioning them, and bringing them to court. Basically, the Zombies, representing dead people coming out of their graves and back to life, are similar to Plato's earth-born which are mentioned, primarily, in the Critias, the Republic, and the Statesman dialogues. The Statesman contains the main clue as to how we are to interpret the intended meaning, for a better understanding of the story of Atlantis. And the clue as to the earth-born is at least twofold, as it gives indication to two separate events. From the Critias: I have before remarked in speaking of the allotments of the gods, that they distributed the whole earth into portions differing in extent, and made for themselves temples and instituted sacrifices. And Poseidon, receiving for his lot the island of Atlantis, begat children by a mortal woman, and settled them in a part of the island, which I will describe. Looking towards the sea, but in the centre of the whole island, there was a plain which is said to have been the fairest of all plains and very fertile. Near the plain again, and also in the centre of the island at a distance of about fifty stadia, there was a mountain not very high on any side. In this mountain there dwelt one of the earth-born primeval men of that country, whose name was Evenor,
  11. Climate Change is a Hoax

    Read the 2040 bible today, and yep, the graphic artist they paid did a great job, but more of the same BS, unfortunately. Wind turbines and solar will dramatically reduce power prices, eventhough it won't, and the "things will progressively get worse from now on", and the classic, remarks of "biblical flooding and more severe weather patterns, blah, blah". I read the biblical flooding several times, (front of the book) to remember it, and no, he didn't say, "dogs and cat's living together" but maybe next time. A good example of a greenie, with some good motivations about cleaning up his act, but then takes it too far with the usual, CO2, increasing temp's, melting ice, repent, and so forth. He would have had to find a few million to produce this doc/fantasy/joke for the cinemas,.....probably DeCaprio? And like others, his brainwashed kids motivated him, through coming home, and writing their last will and testament, in between becoming vegetarians and condemning their parents to purgatory for not taking action. I guess some parents would say, "don't worry it is BS", and others would say, "l am so sorry, l am evil l know". What we really need is a real Global warming the Real Facts movie, but with Attenborough's self condemnation, and others, l guess they are hanging themselves? Read some of the twitter remarks today, or one in the paper, which included the words of *****ing renecks, never go to Queensland again, disgusted, and the usual Australia will burn, idiots, morons, and so forth. Probably the funniest thing l have read this week, to see a nutter go nuts. But you probably have to live in AU, to get that one, (labour has been a dark cloud over us for some time, and not it is gone). Oh yeah, the 2040 book, sorry bible, also has large images of childrens faces. It worked with Microsoft and Windows 10, and we all know what a wonderful OS that is!
  12. I don't believe you

    My question was addressed to someone who believes it.
  13. Related reports... "Trash found littering ocean floor in deepest-ever sub dive" Full report at Reuters: https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-environment-pollution/trash-found-littering-ocean-floor-in-deepest-ever-sub-dive-idUKKCN1SJ24L "Victor Vescovo descends 36,000ft into the abyss, finding plastic bags and four new species" At iNews: https://inews.co.uk/news/environment/mariana-trench-dive-victor-vescovo-depth-new-species-plastic/
  14. It’s immature rebuttal time kids....
  15. Lady Arbuthnot's Chamber (Question)

    Mate, the other day in clear light it took me five minutes to find the tissue box I left that morning in my classroom. Two blokes not seeing something in torchlight in one room but finding it in another is entirely plausible.
  16. Theresa May to resign on 7 June

    Why did they make her walk like 10 meters out of the house and into the street, to stand, all alone, crying... Couldn't they have placed the podium just outside her door?
  17. How Iran will defeat Trump and America

    Can - you - believe - it.. 'Irans reach puts US forces, allies in striking range'. From Reuters no less. Its official. We have devolved into a full blown Idiocracy.
  18. Joe Biden announces 2020 run for president

    I called it in 2016. I said if Biden ran, he'd get the nomination, but they chose Clinton instead. Because they were "With Her". Running her simply because she was a woman and it was her turn, when she was EVEN MORE horrible then Trump. I said right after that if they wanted to take it back from Trump, and I've been saying this ever since, they will have to run Biden. Running Sanders they will loose, 100%. Anyone else, they loose, 100%. Biden, IMHO, is their only chance. Now in 2024. Mayor Pete, or Kamala, or Booker, will have a fine chance. Even if they run against VP Pence. "Pence" does have a Presidential feel to it though......
  19. I don't believe you

    Why read the Bible, if you think it so ? I don't read it.
  20. Tommy Robinson standing for MEP

    wow.... can you see how condescending towards the young woman that is,,, ?
  21. Tommy Robinson standing for MEP

    allow me.... here it is
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  23. Tommy Robinson standing for MEP

    and in the first 5 words we have the provocative Strawman like method of discussion raising it's head - I thought we weren't going to insult each other's intelligence...? edit to say.... did you see my previous edit... ?
  24. I don't believe you

    A common theme in the Bible.
  25. I don't believe you

    Doesn't matter, it's hypothetical. Do you want me to explain what a hypothetical scenario is?
  26. Tommy Robinson standing for MEP

    No, if your hero Tommy would be honest about his questions, he would have made some more effort to apporach / invite someone who has some answers.. You know, as apposed to approaching a Muslim teenager on the streets with camera and Saudi Arabian booklet in hands. Come on, Im not stating anything off here, pretty straightforward stuff. If I want to know about Judaism, I dont approach a Jewish teenager on the streets with camera and talmud in hand firing all sorts of theocratic questions at him / her about Zionism or ultra orthodox Judaism. I research which Rabbi's oppose these extremist schools of thought and write them, ask for an interview.
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