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  2. You feel sorry for me because I can look beyond the end of my nose and see what can happen? You need to wake up out of that fantasy world. That is truly disconcerting if this is the typical attitude of non-Americans. In another thread I had been trying to express some very important concepts. This thread is perhaps more appropriate for it. There is perhaps one main difference between Americans and (at least) the nations of the Free World. And that is the concept of freedom. That word means different things between the two. James Madison stated: “In Europe, charters of liberty have been granted by power. America has set the example . . . of charters of power granted by liberty. This revolution in the practice of the world, may, with an honest praise, be pronounced the most triumphant epoch of its history, and the most consoling presage of its happiness.” This highlights the difference between rule by Divine Right and rule by Natural Right. The Social Democracies of Europe and their ex-Colonies are still Monarchies just without the monarchy. This is still true today and highlights the different viewpoints of ‘freedom’ or ‘liberty’. In the ‘Free World’, freedom is basically living in a gilded cage. Nanny care from cradle to grave. Everything being granted (or not) by the government. Hence, restrictive guns laws to NHS. Things that inherently rob liberty from the individual. Most are oblivious to this enslavement and blissfully so. That’s the way you choose to live and that is perfectly OK. For the time being, such governments are very benevolent so this concept is a very sufferable evil. It’s a bad assumption to think it will stay that way forever (Nazism is on the rise in Germany and Socialism is on the rise in Italy and those are just two examples). But let’s say that someone comes to power and slowly weaponizes government agencies against portions of the population that are more patriotic than others, impose a healthcare system that can later be tweaked to control the population (either withhold care or place on watch lists), replace senior officers in the military that are loyal to the country with less capable officers. It wouldn’t take much to revoke liberty and usurp power. But why worry right? Nothing like that would ever happen. Americans are staunch individualists. We live and die by our Natural Rights. We prefer to take the good *AND* the bad together. It's our choice as to what we take in; what we accept or reject. We don’t need the government to wipe our nose. That is real freedom. There’s a reason that the 1st and 2nd Amendments are #1 and #2. They are perhaps the most important because they are the tools that assure the future of the Constitution. Our Constitution and the rights it protects (note ‘protects’ not ‘grants’) is the most precious gift we have. It is more precious than the most innocent child. It is more precious than every Man, Woman, and Child. We are all expendable to preserve that. If you find that offensive, well, I just explained why. This is why, to non-Americans, we appear to be irrational. But that’s what happens when someone has the real thing and others are looking from the outside in. As I’ve mentioned many times before, all forms of government, in time lean more toward authoritarianism or totalitarianism, even the most benevolent. So over the course of generations, individual rights diminish little by little. Sometimes, this ‘taking’ of rights is deemed important to the safety of society and people let it go without realizing what it will lead to. You take a little here and a little there, eventually there is nothing left. And Jefferson hinted at this phenomenon (disposed to suffer) in his writings: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” And that is what gun control is. It is a threat to those precious rights and it never gives up. That’s what makes them worth fighting and dying for. To prevent this slow erosion of them. The people shouldn’t have to suffer this insult. That is such an irresponsible and defeatist statement. 1 is one too many. Is that the goal, to kill just one fewer or find out and correct the reasons for the killings? Children killed by mass shooters is infinitesimal to other forms of death, including the single, random incidents like drivebys in Chicago. I don’t have the stats in front of me but I’m pretty sure more children died in Chicago last year than all of those that died in school shootings of the last 10 years. And more children have died from diseases than gun violence. My gawd man! You need perspective. I’m not insinuating anything. I’m asking you? Why are the deaths of hundreds of mostly Black children in the inner city less valuable than mostly non-Black kids in an affluent neighborhood? You’re going to have to explain yourself. You have a very warped sense of GOD. Believing in GOD is not some magic pill. Believing in GOD is a state of mind. But GOD is the source of morals. It doesn’t matter if you believe that or not. People are good imitators. When someone is lacking something inside and they see it in others that “have it”, will imitate them. That something is morals and it is passed on from Godly people to others. Really?! So OZ is this great safe utopia? Google shows, Melbourne, Endeavour Hills, Sydney, Parramatta, Minto, Quenbeyan, and Brighton seem to have their own violence. A mixture of ramming, shooting, and stabbing. I’m sure these are the high-profile incidents and are probably tip of the iceberg. There are probably many that kill with their own bare hands. As mentioned above, we do see that. Where there is a lack of faith, you’ll find a lack of respect. And with a lack of respect, people are more likely to kill each other by any means available. The diminished presence of GOD makes society more dangerous. Even atheists need GOD. Without GOD, you would have a society of no morals. And atheists pride themselves on being moral. But if atheists truly knew where their morals came from, would they reject them? I’ll come at you any damn way I like! There certainly have been wars fought in the name of deities but if it wasn’t for religion, Man would still be fighting in ununified family groups. We wouldn’t be starting to leave the shores of this planet. We wouldn’t have the technology we have. Human nature is a mixed blessing. But one of the things that drives Man forward is his faith.
  3. What a convenient nit-pick, their lawyers commissioned it. . Were the 'shoe on the other foot' here (had the Trump Campaign and the GOP done this type of thing) it wouldn't matter one iota that 'their lawyers did it". Funny how it matters so much when it's on the Democratic side. I grow tired of the spinning...the Steele dossier was opposition research and it was used inappropriately. Time will tell if the allegations in it can be supported or not. I suspect not as the sources used were the Russians themselves...you know, the ones who lie constantly and are trying to bring down our government.
  4. is that all you saw?
  5. Ummm...... and your point being ? If we take Arab boasting seriously, then Israel was destroyed in 1948. And several times since. On the other hand, the reference to "Ottoman Turk occupiers" is interesting.
  6. You were the one who made the comparison with cigarettes (cancer/heart disease) - not me
  7. You've obviously never had an elderly family member who has refused to stop driving long past when they should've stopped. The government will continue to renew their license until the insurance company cancels their policy. That's usually what stops them.
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  9. you don't even understand my argument, to point anything in it, or you would not be comparing terminal disease to a crime
  10. no-one was armed back then?
  11. Macqdor, there is one really important question that has been asked over and over. I think it's time it was dealt with formally, rather than the these weasel posts that contain no useful content whatsoever.. even though in the last few posts you have pretty much answered it.. You have made several clear references to lab reports/proper analyses. But at the site you have linked, those reports are absent. In your posts, those reports are absent. You have specifically refused to make them available, other than to refer back to that link at which they cannot be found.. It now seems abundantly clear that there are NO such reports and you just made sh!t up. So here's the formal question, or rather, a simple choice. Let's label it Q.2, as you've already evaded my Q.1. I'll use big text just for you. Q.2 Macqdor, will you post the lab reports now? Or would you prefer to withdraw the claim you had proper reports done, and thus formally admit you lied to the forum? It's one or the other. And I think it's now past the time where we ask the moderators for an adjudication.
  12. I was simply pointing out the fallacy of your own argument
  13. As it stands today, this "band-aid" could have saved most, maybe ALL of the 17 dead. The idea that America is going to make such far-reaching changes to our culture in the short-term is unrealistic, maybe impossible. I'll say it again - doing SOMETHING to secure these schools is a far better solution than just arguing over gun control or anything else. A small, armed contingent at the entrance to a school would stand a chance of putting one of these rabid dogs down or more likely, dissuading their cowardly heart from even trying the deed. This isn't about perfect solutions, it's about TRYING to make things better as best we can.
  14. XenoFish

    This status update isn't a complaint.

  15. btw I dont argue for greater gun control Gun control may reduce the means. It doesnt reduce the cause. And that's what need looking at. Not how kids can shoot their classmates, but why they do.
  16. Other planets have been liberated only to become enslaved.......................................again.
  17. My area for sightings is one of the grey locations. Tales of Real Experiences of meeting Real Fairies
  18. I let mine decided. Easier and honestly smarter that way. If god really existed, no one would have to teach us about it.
  19. so you compare a terminal disease to a crime? wow, did you figure that all by yourself, round two of stupid logic for you, keep them coming
  20. http://offgridquest.com/abandoned/forest-ranger-finds Ranger finds mystery in the woods, and the story ends with a strange twist. See if you can tell what the symbol means.
  21. of course not, we are armed so it wont work on large scale, but they showed they have no problem doing it in 1941 to limited population, or better yet lets ask american Indians, i'm sure they have only good things to say, and i do not mean 200 years ago.
  22. Burglary happens Thats the difference. When was the last time the US Government rounded up all the citizens of the USA and put them in concentration camps? But I agree, paranoia is also real - though is doesnt explain why US citizens would choose to elect people to do that to them?
  23. Why would I try? Do you understand what I mean? Why would I even try to characterize that circumstance? That's where they were the night of the 24th, that's all, period.
  24. More people die each year from cancer than by being shot by a classmate. Ergo, kids with guns is not a problem. QED? or Stupidity?
  25. who said we are terrified? we just keeping our option open. by your logic if you lock your door, you must be terrified by thieves, and live your life in fear of brake in. stupid logic, congrats
  26. They paid blanket legal fees to Perkins Coie. They didn't commission it. Perkins Coie did: When Marc Elias, general counsel for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, hired a private research firm in the spring of 2016 to investigate Donald Trump, he drew from funds he was authorized to spend without oversight by campaign officials, according to a spokesperson for his law firm. The firm hired by Elias, Fusion GPS, produced research that resulted a dossier detailing alleged connections between Trump and Russia. While the funding for the work came from the campaign and the Democratic National Committee, Elias kept the information about the investigation closely held as he advised the campaign on its strategy, according to the spokesperson, who requested anonymity to discuss the internal dynamics. Source: Washington Post
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