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  2. If you want proof of divine intervention there it is :) I wonder what people of the 18th century would think if they came back and saw all the shaved heads.
  3. RoofGardener

    Beneath troubled waters

    Yes, I WAS being slightly mischeivous in quoting ISIS, but it is worth noting that the quote in question ... ".. we hate you because you are not muslims..", is sanctioned by both the Koran and the authenticated Hadiths in Sunni theology. As for the "explosion that the muslim faith experienced".. that was mostly down to disillusionment with the secular leaders that emerged in the post-colonial period, and the failure of pan-Arabism. It mostly started in the late 60's and 70's. There is an interesting Wiki article about this ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_revival#Contemporary_revivalism Israel is often used as a rallying cry, but this is pure politics rather than any genuine feeling of support for the Palestinians. Indeed, Palestinians are treated with contempt in most of the Arab world. Where they really ? There where about 700,000 refugees in the original "Nakba". Many of these ended up in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Some went to Jordan and Syria, but the numbers where in the tens of thousands. Hardly a catastrophic burden, especially if rich Arab nations helped out. Except... they didn't. Did you know that the Arab League instructed all Arab states NOT to grant Palestinians citizenship ? In Saudi Arabia, a law was passed in 2004 allowing all foreigners - who had lived in the Kingdom for 10 years - to apply for citizenship ? EXCEPT for Palestinians. In Jordan, a large number of Palesteinians where granted Jordanian citizenship, arising from Jordans annexation of the West Bank up until 1967. These 'citizens' are now being stripped of their Jordanian citizenship - about 40,000 so far, and climbing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees#Refugee_statistics So much, then, for Arab support for "The Palestinians". I'd agree. However, far from "jumping through hoops", the PLO has rejected each and every attempt at peace. For the simple reason that they do not WANT peace. They want the destruction of Israel. You're seriously suggesting that Israel has butchered and raped the citizens of surrounding countries ? Israel has never entered Jordanian territory. It entered the Sinai - then occupied by Egypt - and the Golan Heights (then Syrian territory). Can you give me any examples of rape and butchery ? I don't think you can ? Israel has FREQUENTLY offered to return the Golan Heights in return for a normalisation of relations with Syria. Syria has consistently refused, and maintained its state of war against Israel. It is utterly without precedent for a country that fought a defensive war to discuss return of territory when its opponent - the one that invaded - insists on maintaining that state of war. Umm.. actually... yes they did. It was called Compiègne. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_of_22_June_1940 . I'm not sure how this relates to the current discussion, however ? I doubt that most Egyptians care one way or the other. Ditto Jordanians, and most of the Arab peninsula. Most muslim countries adopt a pro-forma stance of supporting the Palestinians, and disliking Israel, but I really doubt that their citizens care one way or the other, except when whipped up on Hate Fridays in the mosques. That's very interseting, EoT. And yes.. war IS a funny thing, in the darkest of ways.
  4. Helen of Annoy

    {un}holy haiku - 3rd Edition

    then all will be clear like water gushing out of stone covered with moss
  5. Helen of Annoy

    YOU ARE BANNED (Part 7)

    Banned for asking for too much.
  6. Helen of Annoy

    Dyatlov Pass

    If it was tons of ice and snow on top of the corpses, then the scavengers couldn't pick them. You have to blame decomposition only, which is possible since the bodies under the snow drift were found later. Not that the temperatures were high enough, but there... There was just too much protest at the time of the tragedy, for something that seemed normal to the people who lived there. I don't think there's any record about Dyatlov Pass that can be taken as reliable, which is why I don't have an opinion what exactly happened there, but the last impression I would get from it all is that nothing extraordinary happened there.
  7. I have secret images of the UFOs they have there. (VTIC)
  8. Oh sorry, I haven't seen that at all - what did they find in it that made you sway to that way of thinking @fred_mc?
  9. Fancy that huh? If he was indeed killed, it's much easier to see them getting away with it then, than what it is now. Especially without the electronic records kept...how convenient that the official report went missing. Sometimes, I think these govt organisations are either crooked as he!! and think we're a bunch of dopey cattle that eat up anything they feed us, or, they are the most unorganised idiots in existence. edit: I forgot to mention, they're still getting away with things today, just on a more techy scale perhaps! Look at the Epstein scandal, what a pitiful tale they're attempting to feed us and they're expecting us to lap it up as truth too. I'm glad people ask more questions now. Imagine back in 1961, it would've been somewhat taboo to ask a lot of questions. Oh no no, just sit back and "trust" the so called experts. Wow, I sound like a conspiracy theorist.
  10. Dr Steven Hawking makes a very important point. He thinks we should not be in a hurry to make contact, because it could tell them where we are and that may be a very bad day for Earth. It seems that people think an advanced race is going to be benevolent and want to help us. However, it's very possible they may not be, nothing proves this either way but it is a fact that most likely they do not think the same way about things that we do, they didn't grow up in our society. Just like the space movies we grew up watching, everyone no matter how advanced isn't always the good guy. JIMO
  11. After having seen the episode of Air Crash Investigation on National Geographic where this crash is investigated, I would say that I think it was an accident, i.e. I don't think he was murdered.
  12. Rumours about why the plane came down were fuelled by no less a figure than former US president Harry Truman. He told reporters two days after Hammarskjöld’s death that the UN leader “was on the point of getting something done when they killed him. Notice that I said 'when they killed him.'” He refused to elaborate, but it was the start of decades of suspicions that western governments were not sharing all the information they held about the crash. Full article from January 2019 at the UK Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/12/former-raf-pilot-shot-down-un-chief-dag-hammarskjold-1961-plane
  13. I dare say, as soon as the signal is received, a request to sign up for a subscription, to hear more, will be up front.
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  15. I agree, its impossible to say for certain. We as species know so little about our Universe that until they get a signal that says hello all they can do is continue to monitor them. In fact they don't even know exactly where the signals are originating from. So while this is interesting, we still have a long way to go. But I do want to say I don't think they are wasting their time, sooner or later I think they will find something that can't be over looked. JIMO
  16. Dumbledore the Awesome

    Dumbledore the Awesome

    “Trump said he is angry ‘when I hear people speaking about how wonderful al Qaeda is.’ He emphasized: ‘That was Omar. How great al Qaeda is.’ And he said, ‘She said you can hold their chest out, you can — ‘When I think of America, huh. When I think of al Qaeda, I can hold my chest out’.” He then sent a tweet saying “A politician that hears somebody, where we’re at war with al-Qaeda, and sees somebody talking about how great al-Qaeda is. Pick out her statement. That was Omar. ‘How great al-Qaeda is.’ And we’re losing great soldiers to al-Qaeda.”

    ~ the eloquence and coherence of, do I really need to say who?

  17. There is science and then there is science. The two resemble each other only slightly. One science is based on measurements and tests, the other is based on commands to believe pronouncements from people who claim to have that authority. That is the definition of religion. I have no problem trusting science. The religion that goes by the same name is teh suxorz.
  18. Dumbledore the Awesome

    Dumbledore the Awesome

    “a bunch of Communists who hate Israel.”

    1. Carlos Allende

      Carlos Allende

      ...so runs the target briefing in Top Gun 2.

  19. I got the same thing as Timothy. I don’t think I’ve read many things on website.
  20. Dumbledore the Awesome

    185,000 truth seekers pledge to storm Area 51

    And also the US Air Force Museum, so it's (a) not exactly a Secret Base; (b) already reasonably publically accessible, and (c) I doubt they'd still have any aliens or recovered Saucers there still.
  21. Dumbledore the Awesome

    "Gay Cake" row goes to European Courts

    But surely it's sealed within packaging?
  22. ExpandMyMind

    "Gay Cake" row goes to European Courts

    That's because the thing about pork is specifically about touching it. I highly doubt your friend saw the same with alcohol, because they are only prohibited from drinking it. There are thousands of shops here where Muslims sell alcohol, which is why my point is valid. Does the Bible say Christians aren't allowed to touch a 'gay cake'?
  23. Dumbledore the Awesome

    Boris Johnson to become PM

    Are you still trying to pretend that the UK is a democracy, Steve? Really?
  24. Habitat

    A Universe Not Made For Us

    Know any psychiatrists you can recommend ?
  25. Habitat

    Seeking guidance

    I am seeing a bunch of ads at the bottom of the page, about tarot cards, there's your clue !
  26. psyche101

    A Universe Not Made For Us

    Dead set you are an idiot. If that comment does not tell you that you have real problems I don't know what would. Seek professional help.
  27. psyche101

    A Universe Not Made For Us

    That's a finite tineline - for everything Nothing is eternal.
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