Taun Posted June 17, 2012 #1 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I was surfing the internet just a bit ago and came to the startling discovery that one of the greatest Rock and Roll bands of all time is not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... The Moody Blues... The Moodies are not the only such band, ostracized by the Hall... check out this list... KISS Depeche Mode The Cure Chicago Hall and Oates Rush Alice Cooper Moody Blues E.L.O. Cheap Trick Bad Company Peter Frampton Heart T-Rex Bon Jovi Journey Foreigner Public Enemy Red Hot Chili Peppers... In order to be eligible for the Hall, it must be at least 25 years since their first recording... The Moodies passed this time limit in the early 1990's... Here is an excerpt from an on-line mag called "Goldmine" "No major band has so relentlessly purveyed nonsense…were it not for their titanic success, in fact, they might easily be dismissed as an odd and overlong joke… it’s the artiness of their symphonic rock that’s truly crass, their self-importance offensive. Gods of 70s FM radio, they invented a sort of easy-listening psychedelia that resolutely combined the worst of both worlds.” So wrote Paul Evans in the fourth edition of “The Rolling Stone Album Guide,” which then proceeded to rate the band’s big seven albums, the first getting a respectable three stars, the next six getting one and one-half stars, except for one which got just one star. The rating guide lists one star as “DISASTROUS: Albums in the range of one star or less are wastes of vital resources. Only masochists and completists need apply.” Folks, now you know why the Moody Blues are not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. " http://www.goldminemag.com/features/the-moody-blues-voices-in-the-sky-but-not-in-the-hall-of-fame The bottom line is that the RRHOF is controlled by Rolling Stone Magazine... And the powers that be at Rolling Stone don't think the Moodies are 'cool enough' to be in their hall... I personally think this is a shame and a travesty ... It's not just because I really - REALLY like the Moodies... Lets look at their qualifications: 16 non-compilation studio albums... 6 Live concert albums... 70+ million copies sold world wide.. 14 Platinum and Gold Albums... nearly 50 years as a band and still selling out concerts... If not for the Moody Blues influence - the Beatles would not have been able to change their sound on their later albums (introduction to the Mellotron)... Their 'core seven albums' (Days of Future Past, In Search of the Lost Chord, On The Threshold of a Dream, To Our Children's Children's Children, A Question of Balance, Every Good Boy Deserves Favour and Seventh Sojurn) each out sold the preceding albums, and have given the music world several iconic R&R songs... They were essentially the founding members of 'Progressive Rock' and for this Rolling Stone has never forgiven them.. Shame on you Rolling Stone... Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted June 17, 2012 #2 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) I never liked the Moody Blues myself.... Now Kiss and Rush, they should be in there...... But again, look at the list of whom is in there, and I have issues calling some of it " Rock and Roll ". One example ( of many ) ..... The Bee Gee's. Really? Rock and Roll? Edited June 17, 2012 by Sakari 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted June 17, 2012 #3 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Used to subscribe as a kid, then tried it again 20 years later. Not a Rolling Stone mag fan. Pompous, glitzy, and sold out whatever heart and soul and music focus it (some of its writers) arguably may have had early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted June 17, 2012 #4 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I never liked the Moody Blues myself.... Now Kiss and Rush, they should be in there...... But again, look at the list of whom is in there, and I have issues calling some of it " Rock and Roll ". Yeah, wasn't T Rex some one hit "wonder"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMelsWell Posted June 17, 2012 #5 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) I personally never liked the Moody Blues, I saw them once in concert and slept through the entire show pretty much. The ones that should be there for sure are: Heart Yes Kiss Rush Those are the big four snubs in my book. I also think Cheap Trick and Alice Cooper should be there too. Edited June 17, 2012 by MissMelsWell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMelsWell Posted June 17, 2012 #6 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Yeah, wasn't T Rex some one hit "wonder"? You might only know Bang-a-Gong, but for those who are fans of glam rock from that era, they know T-Rex had a pretty good body of work actually. Do I think they belong in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame? Ummm... I'm not sure, but I can say I think they belong there more than some of the others who have been inducted who aren't rock and roll artists at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Only Posted June 17, 2012 #7 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) The Red Hot Chili Peppers are being inducted into it this year, I thought. To be honest, some of the other bands in the list are not leaders of their genre. Not so innovative, not the most popular, kind of securely placed in the lower end of the top, in my opinion. edit: Oops, looks like it already happened; the RHCP inducted into the hall this year. So that's one off the list. Edited June 17, 2012 by _Only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted June 17, 2012 #8 Share Posted June 17, 2012 You might only know Bang-a-Gong, but for those who are fans of glam rock from that era, they know T-Rex had a pretty good body of work actually. Do I think they belong in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame? Ummm... I'm not sure, but I can say I think they belong there more than some of the others who have been inducted who aren't rock and roll artists at all. You are right, I don't remember their other songs. I'll have to give them a listen. Maybe I will recognize some. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Were the Moody Blues influential at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 17, 2012 #9 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I like The Moody Blues, I think they should be there. If Neil Diamond, ABBA, Miles Davis, Righteous Brothers, Brenda Lee, Paul Simon, Nat :King" Cole, Billie Holiday, Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, Jelly Roll Morton, The Jackson 5, Etta James, Dinah Washington, Johnny Cash, Louie Armstrong, Bobby Darin, Dion, Bessie Smith, Woody Guthrie, Marvin Gay, B B King, and some more have been inducted, why not The Moody Blues? I think the R&R Hall of Fame is pretty much a joke, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted June 17, 2012 #10 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I think the R&R Hall of Fame is pretty much a joke, anyway. How I feel about awards in general: Forget them, I'll like what I want to like, forget the politics, favors, and critics. Exhibits are cool, but you can't make me agree who deserves what according to some committee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio traveler Posted June 18, 2012 #11 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Now Kiss and Rush, they should be in there...... But again, look at the list of whom is in there, and I have issues calling some of it " Rock and Roll ". Kiss and Rush top my list for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_dreamer Posted June 18, 2012 #12 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) RRHOF selections seem completely random and biased. What's important is how the fans feel about the the music as individuals. Edited June 18, 2012 by little_dreamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 18, 2012 #13 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I may be in trouble for this, but, Kiss?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted June 18, 2012 #14 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I may be in trouble for this, but, Kiss?? Just this one small tidbit alone should be enough....... The band has sold more than 40 million albums in the United States, of which 20 million have been certified by the RIAA[3] and their worldwide sales exceeds 100 million albums 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xCrimsonx Posted June 18, 2012 #15 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Kiss, Alice Cooper and RHCP.,...are not in the R n R HOF??? That's blasphemy. ;/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schizoidwoman Posted June 18, 2012 #16 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I'm really surprised that Alice Cooper isn't already in there and on a personal level, I'd like to see Procol Harum inducted too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 18, 2012 #17 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) George Thorogood is another one. I suppose it depends on one's definition of Rock and Roll. If we consider Chuck Berry's and Little Richard's music as original and true R&R, then only artists who follow their style would be playing real R&R. As the music evolved, how far away from Berry and Richard can we go to consider it Rock and Roll? Edited June 18, 2012 by StarMountainKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted June 18, 2012 #18 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I'll give my opinion on your list: The Moodies are not the only such band, ostracized by the Hall... check out this list... KISS - Should be in Depeche Mode - I guess (was never a fan) The Cure - Should be in Chicago - No doubt they should be in Hall and Oates - I don't think so. Rush - They should be in Alice Cooper - He should be in Moody Blues - Of course they should be in E.L.O. - I would put them in Cheap Trick - Not sure Bad Company - Yes Peter Frampton - Yes Heart - Yes T-Rex - No Bon Jovi - Yes Journey - Yes of course Foreigner - Yes of course Public Enemy - No Red Hot Chili Peppers... - Yes I would also put Yes in without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 18, 2012 #19 Share Posted June 18, 2012 What about Jethro Tull, Boston and Emerson Lake and Palmer? If Pink Floyd can get in, why not ELP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted June 19, 2012 #20 Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Rush 100%. Record sales show popularity-- is that a sufficient qualification? (i'm thinking David Cassidy). I remember KISS as popular make-out music in junior high. Does that count? It sure did back then. That's what's great about music, there is something for everyone. And debates are inevitable and passionate. Edited June 19, 2012 by QuiteContrary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted June 19, 2012 #21 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The Scorpions ? 46 years performing....The band sold over 100 million albums ( more than twice as many as Rush ).....And 46 fricken years!!!! As said, the rock and roll hall of fame is not rock and roll.....Bee Gee's?.....Really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Only Posted June 19, 2012 #22 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If Pink Floyd can get in, why not ELP? I think popularity is a big factor. Go down the street and ask random people who the band Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, or ELP, is (I had to look them up myself). Then ask who Pink Floyd is. I think that's a decent gauge on whether a band is more hall of fame worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 19, 2012 #23 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yes, it seems popularity is a big factor, but in quality of music it means nothing, of course. I guess it's hard to define what Rock and Roll is. If R&R is Chuck Berry, is it also Pink Floyd? Then there some bands that sound like R&R, but don't have the soul or serenity. It takes some experience and knowledge to discern the difference. That's why I listed Kiss, for example. It sounds like R&R, so it must be the real thing, right? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMelsWell Posted June 19, 2012 #24 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The Scorpions ? 46 years performing....The band sold over 100 million albums ( more than twice as many as Rush ).....And 46 fricken years!!!! As said, the rock and roll hall of fame is not rock and roll.....Bee Gee's?.....Really? Ya, I'll vote for the Scorps too.. although I really don't like them, I've seen them live 4 or 5 times, but they aren't really my cup of tea still. They do still have a few spots on my iPod too... but it's pretty rare that I don't skip the songs when they come on. But they still deserve a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Only Posted June 19, 2012 #25 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ya, I'll vote for the Scorps too.. although I really don't like them, I've seen them live 4 or 5 times, but they aren't really my cup of tea still. They do still have a few spots on my iPod too... but it's pretty rare that I don't skip the songs when they come on. But they still deserve a spot. Their current drummer James Kottak will always have a spot in my hall of fame. He has his own little rock n roll/punk band Kottak (it used to be Krunk) where he plays guitar and sings. I saw them back in 2000 or so at the Warped Tour, as a little side band on a tiny stage in the booth area. My friend and I were pretty much the only two watching them play, and we stayed the whole time and loved them. After their set he thanked us for watching them and gave us both a free CD. I will always remember that as a great moment. I loved that CD, but lost it a long time ago, and remembered it recently. Oddly enough, I found it on Amazon last week, and the CD just came today! But I didn't know until 10+ years later that he was now in The Scorpions as their drummer. And the drummer of his band I saw that day back at the Warped Tour was Tommy Lee's from Motley Crue's sister, lol. Time to listen to that CD. I haven't yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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