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Wait until you find out who his latest test subjects are.

So, I assume you'd feel the same about the cases where fully vaccinated people who contract covid are then sick enough to be hospitalized or even die? The idea that only unvaxxed patients are able to transmit this virus has been proven wrong consistently. Also, NO GOVERNMENT has the right to take away a person's freedom of association or movement because they refuse to take a vaccine they do not trust. Those who give in to that demand have lost bodily autonomy forever. It's foolish to imagine the government won't expand the power to remove such freedoms for OTHER situations. Watch it happen. It won't be long now before we see examples.

The team is French and Turkish I believe and most of what I have seen is in those languages. I'll take a look see if anything has shown up in English. The translators programs only do a so-so job especially with Archy jargon https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351607065_CARBON_14_EVIDENCE_AND_NEOLITHIC_SITES_Dating_the_Architectures_of_Boncuklu_Tarla_and_Gobekli_Tepe

A Melbourne anti-vaxxer has been caught trying to sell a prosthetic arm online for people wanting to get around the state's Covid-19 vaccine mandate. Since October 15, all people on the Authorised Workers List are required to have had at least one dose of one of the coronavirus jabs. Failing to do this will mean your employer will have to let you go. Melbourne also came out lockdown last week (October 22) and people who are unvaccinated are unable to enjoy the same newfound freedoms, like going to a restaurant, that their vaccinated counterparts can. However, one individual believes their fake arm side hustle will ensure people who are unvaccinated can get proof of having a vaccine without actually the jab. https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-melbourne-anti-vaxxer-is-selling-a-1500-fake-arm-online-20211024

I think perhaps somebody should publish a list of companies that bow to cancel culture & woke-ism, then the rest of us could avoid them.

I think, like me, a lot of people simply don't answer the phone if they don't recognize the number.

Beloved tea cake makers Tunnock's this afternoon found themselves the unlikely cause of Britain's latest culture war - after they donated treats to a group accused of transphobia. The Scottish-based sweet snack manufacturers were dragged into the row after LGB Alliance thanked them for free wafers and cakes for their first annual conference. It was seen by trans rights campaigners who vowed to boycott the company over the hand-outs https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10120565/Now-teacakes-cancelled-Tunnocks-stumbles-culture-war-LGB-Alliance-gifs.html “trans rights campaigners [who] vowed to boycott the company” Well, that will be 0.00021% of their sales up the spout, then … I bet they are shaking in their boots.

I just want Mad Max. These gumboots and tutus won’t wear themselves you know!

Wasn’t me

This link pretty much tells what happened with the parents on the morning they went out to the reserve to look for Brian and the remains were found. FOX had a reporter tailing them with LE, one a police officer and one from the FBI, also trailing them. Police told them at the scene that they had found remains and told them to go home and wait. After the reserve reopened, other hikers found a water bottle they say can be seen in the van during one of the videos that Gabby and Brian uploaded during their trip. They also say they found some bone fragments. https://www.foxnews.com/us/brian-laundrie-found-parents-may-have-just-missed-discovering-son-themselves

And of course Universities have no agenda other than just getting to the real truth of everything... It's all propaganda.

Sounds like no one has a real clue.

No man in my direct family before me has lived to be 70 years old, mostly heart disease and accidents. My dad was far healthier than I am and collapsed on his way to play racket ball, not quite 70. Grandfathers and uncles in their 50's and 60's. I did not expect to beat his record since I developed some serious lung issues at work. But here I am still kicking and nearing 72. Keep going Docy. There is beauty in the fall leaves and the spring robin's song. Rest a little bit and get stronger.

Mammoths and other giant creatures of the Ice Age such as woolly rhinos survived longer than scientists thought, coexisting with humans for tens of thousands years before they vanished for good. That's according to the results of an ambitious 10-year research project that analyzed DNA from hundreds of soil samples across the Arctic. The scientists involved in the project collected 535 samples of permafrost and sediment from frozen lakes, often in extremely cold locations from across Siberia, Alaska, Canada and Scandinavia, in 73 locations where the remains of mammoths have been found. Analysis of DNA contained in the soil showed that mammoths were living in mainland Siberia 3,900 years ago -- after the Great Pyramid of Giza was built in Egypt and the megaliths of Stonehenge were erected. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/24/world/mammoth-steppe-dna-scn

I know some may think this belongs in the music section, but this song didn't go to #1 because of the music, it's there because of politics and the war being waged on conservatism by Big Tech. So YouTube bans the song on their platform, why? Who knows. But as a result the song goes number one on downloads from iTunes. The concept that the tighter you squeeze the faster it slips out of your grasp would seem to apply. Not surprisingly this has gone unnoticed by most MSM outlets, thus I give you a story from Fox link Link edit: I can find it on YouTube so they must have changed their mind.

Phone providers are to automatically block online calls from abroad that are made to look as if they come from UK numbers, as part of efforts to crack down on a rise in foreign scams. The communications regulator, Ofcom, said it had been working with telecoms companies to tackle the “complex problem” and would introduce the new measures “at pace”. The Telegraph, which first reported the news, said the regulator was also considering whether customers should be forced to show ID when buying multiple sim cards, which can be used by fraudsters to send millions of text messages to victims. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/25/uk-phone-networks-scam-calls-abroad

It is Britain’s biggest and most famous monastic ruin and one that conjures up bucolic images of peace, reflection and very little noise apart, perhaps, from the occasional waft of Gregorian chanting. In reality, archaeologists have revealed, Fountains Abbey near Ripon was as busy, noisy and industrialised as anywhere in 12th- and 13th-century Britain. The National Trust has announced the discovery of the foundations of a medieval tannery at the abbey, part of a world heritage site. Experts were astonished. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/oct/25/archaeologists-find-missing-link-history-fountains-abbey

True, but I can't have your experiences, either. I can have some "like" yours, and I can have others that although I haven't had the "same" experience personally (and maybe never will, or even never can, e.g. something dependent on being a child at the time) but can still imagine what it would be "like." I don't see any reason in principle why a machine couldn't get as "close" to understanding your expereince as I can. I can even see a machine someday complaining that I don't understand them, since I've never had an oil change. When I was a newborn, my life experience wasn't all that impressive, either . An AI, especially one that is "situated" (for example, serves as the executive function for a robot that moves around autonmously) might "age" into a deeper understanding of us organ-meat intelligences, despite being clueless at the outset. I did. You probably did. Well, that was the Space Above and Beyond "divine spark." In that universe, somebody working for Microsoft or Google added a line to the company's AI master code: Take a chance. The AI blossomed, with the side effect that for the AI and its descendants, playing poker became a sacrament. Yes, it matters whether number theory is sound, because it means that our intuition (instinct?) about tautologies is reliable. It would also mean that number theory is incomplete, that there are (is?) something(s) about integers that are true, but which we cannot in principle ever prove them to be true. For example (in the hypothetical), that what the prophet says about number theory really is true. Think that three times fast. Yes, as well as being what prophets actually do, pointing in a direction even if others can't follow them all the way to some ultimate reality. Richard Feynman was a prophet in that sense. Richard Feynman did not necessarily break the Church-Turing barrier, but he was wicked smart. And wicked smart is enough for most people to be unable to follow him as far he got on the way to ultimate reality. Language starts to fail long before it fails full stop. So, regardless of what might be possible theoretically, there were things he didn't manage to explain completely, or as completely as he understood them. One anecdote tells of a learned colleague who was asked what Feynman's problem solving method was. The answer was that Feynman writes down the problem, then he thinks really hard for a while, and then he writes down the answer. It's easy for me to imagine that someday, some machine's problem solving method would seem just as opaque to any of us as Feynman's was to his colleague, but equally or more effective.

I see that Alexa has been speaking with our beloved Mr W. The "what ifs" can make for some very strange rabbit holes. At the moment, Church-Turing's status is "unknown." While it is either true or false, it could be "false, but..." in interesting ways. Suppose it were false because whatever cognitive feat a human can perform, then in principle, so can an AI, and vice versa That is, suppose we humans were bound to the cognitive feats that can be performed by a Universal Turing machine (+/- what we ordinarily think of as a "computer" and also existing "neural net" AI's), but there was some combination of matter that wasn't so bound (TNG's Data's "positronic net" or whatever). The sky's the limit as to what that machine might accomplish cognitively. It might not even be able to communicate its findings to us. Suppose another unproven hypothesis is true: human language performance coincides with the linguistic capability of a Universal Turing machine ... that might be called "Chomsky's Conjecture." So, hypothetically, suppose the machine discovers something and cannot even explain to us what it found. That is, it finds some truth that is literally and irreparably ineffable. That doesn't mean that it couldn't give us hints ("I have discovered something that is true but beyond your comprehension and will forever remain so" is a perfectly fine natural language utterance). It might even "point us toward" this truth using imagery, figures of speech ... just not a literal accurate and complete description, but only toward something that is beyond our grasp. In other words Nothing in the above depends on the content of "that experience." It needn't be anything "divine." The basic content could be as pedestrian as "It is possible to know, because I do in fact know, that number theory cannot formally prove any theorem that isn't actually true." Gödel's Theorem says that that "knowing" could only be based on something other than what a Universal Turing machine can verify. And of course I (literally eight bits) still wouldn't know that, because I would have no way of verifying it, I could only have faith in the prophet, despite my experience that prophets just might lie, or Mmm, assume might be a little strong, because I don't assume that Church-Turing is true (although nothing in my experience, real or vicarious, refutes it).

Hi Eight Bits I realize that there are those that peddle products that they don't believe in which to me personally is dishonest. It's like the person(and I know a couple) that detest and look down on people who smoke and drink alcohol but own a bar or a liquor store so they can live off of and use them for their own personal gain. I also realize that the bible says there will be false prophets and priests so it's a given that the system is corrupt in it's nature anyway. This also reminds me of how Walker tells us that his alien is a god to everyone except him and we can all see how he has converted the masses into not believing him which was part of the equation in my evaluation of this topic.

I have a few problems with that, Jay. First, empirically (or at least anecdotally), apparently there are atheist clerics. We had a member here once upon a time whose grandfather (iirc) was both an atheist privately and an Orthodox priest publicly. Other people revert to atheism or agnosticism after having made a professional commitment to being clergy, and some apparently choose to continue doing their job despite the lack of personal conviction. Secondly, theoretically, the "gold standard" for quality of machine intelligence is to win the game contemplated by the Turing Test (i.e. human judges try to distinguish between a human and a machine based on those two contestants' answers to questions of the judges' choosing; a win for the machine is the failure of the judges to distinguish reliably). You seem to be proposing that there is a winning strategy for the human, that is, to volunteer (say) "I am a pathfinder for the Seventh Day Adventists." (That would invite questions about SDA, and the machine would have to keep up.) If so, then that in turn would imply that the Church-Turing thesis is false (ie, it is false that whatever cognitive feat a human can perform, then in principle, so can an AI, and vice versa). We know that because we see right here on UM that a certain poster (a verified human being) can compellingly imitate an SDA pathfinder despite not actually being one (>cough<; excuse me, I seem to have something caught in my throat). Well, if Church-Turing is true, and a human can imitate a pathfinder (or whatever religious operative), then a machine can, too. At least up to the Q&A (sermons, leading prayer,counseling, ...) portion of the job. The Turing Test doesn't require the machine to go camping, for example, but does require the machine to be able to explain how to pitch a tent, etc. Third and finally How is an AI supposed to know this, but no AI could be taught to believe that there is a divine cheat code? (There is an anti-Christian legend that Jesus stole the true name of God and used it to perform feats like those you mention.) Again, Church-Turing. If a human being can believe that Jesus is somehow an exception to the laws of nature, then a machine might be able to do that, too. If not, then Church-Turing is false, and if Church-Turing is false, then all we have to worry about in the "rise of machines" is what we worry about already, that machines are faster and more reliable than humans in many of the tasks that both can perform.

You know you can probably find a less catastrophic occasion if you're really that keen to wear them. And it seems you are......

In the US in September, Covid was the leading cause of death in the US among 35-54 year olds. That's THE leading cause of death. In the UK, it was the 3rd leading cause of death, above cancer. So even if your dismissal because it 'merely removed a few geriatric 80+ fat people' wasn't absolutely disgusting, it's still completely incorrect.

@Tatetopa I’ve sporadically during my life heard about such things but assumed those cruelties had been relegated to the past in the US. I think It’s an issue of media coverage. You might notice that when people hear about this stuff, they post about it,

What makes you think "they" haven't been vocal and still aren't?

If you translate it to mandarin it's worthy of an opera in Bavarian... ~

Neither of you guys can rhyme for squat. Worst rap-battle evah!

Fauci and company are not funding research they are funding monsters, if you read the 12 key traits common in serial killers and have listen to him on news shows, being questioned in Congress etc... it seems he has most all of those traits.

Dark Side of the spoon :-P

You mean one of them plagues that kills about fifty per cent of a population? Covid19 doesn't. It merely removes a few geriatric 80+ fat people from the populations that likely would have died anyway within - I guess - half a year. No surplus mortality in Germany: https://idw-online.de/de/news777907

Based on a sample of 1. AI does not reach awareness sitting around a campfire and listening to predators stalk outside the firelight. AI would have access to all of its manufacturing and programming data. It would seem that there would be little mystery to explain its current state of awareness. As for its place in the universe, it might take the pragmatic approach that there is no reason, just chance that it is here and aware.

We all have different perspcetives about what reincarnation means. It seems that the reincarnation is not usually instant. And not everyone reincarnates. I think also, that heaven is subject to interpretation. Some want the pearly gates and St. Peter's list to determine if you get to go sit and sing for the angels, others want some paradise where any whim they have is granted. And some think there is no heaven, but rather a reuniting with the "all that is" that we stepped away from to have an experience as a human on planet earth. What is your belief about heaven?

Almost as if the government has something to hide.

I wonder how I can better boycott the woke and insecure who find offense in everything. Mountains from molehills springs to mind.

Hi Eight Bits Thanks for the reasoned response, I had been doing some poking around during my silence here and had considered to start a thread along a similar line of though and had second thoughts. It is an interesting idea and at some point in the future will be something that mankind will encounter and have to resolve for themselves. At this point all I can do is speculate on how man will react. https://mindmatters.ai/2020/09/and-now-can-ai-have-mystical-experiences Remember A.I. Jesus? He’s so last week. We’re now told that AI in general might have a mystical side. A professor of Philosophy, Classics, Religion, and Environmental Studies tells us that “Technology could be part of some bigger plan to enable us to perceive other dimensions.” But he asks, “will we believe our machines when that happens?” Specifically, he wonders, What if your Siri claimed to have had a spiritual experience, or, as he puts it a “deeper-than-5G connection”?: Okay. Each “what if?” scenario above leads us further from any likely reality. David O’Hara makes clear that he does not claiming that there is a God or any spiritual reality. He is saying that, assuming there were, machines may help us find them:

It is a disgrace. Even Biden and Harris used it when campaigning for office. That showed how petty and vindictive they are right off the bat.

They certainly did... The Left Said It Wouldn’t Trust The Trump Vaccine. Now They’re Shaming The Unvaccinated Public figures on the left spent months saying that they wouldn’t trust a vaccine produced under former President Donald Trump’s administration, but are now shaming people who say they won’t take the vaccine. MSNBC host Joy Reid said multiple times that she would not trust a vaccine made by Trump or his “politicized” Food and Drug Administration (FDA). In one tweet she mocked “Operation Warp Speed,” the effort that the Trump administration made in order to get a vaccine made as fast as possible. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-the-left-said-it-wouldnt-trust-the-trump-vaccine-now-theyre-shaming-the-unvaccinated/ar-AAMLI1k

If that was true then no one would know anyone who has died and had the vaccine even though they were healthy and not overweight. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

No your right I have not, but I do remember when I joined in 2019. You were one of the top members on this forum, I think most members did not realize that your down attitude was actually a reality. But since I became a member your popularity has slowly fallen and continues to do so. What ever issue you have also effected my younger brother, and like him you will try to make others feel down because you feel down. There is a lot of negativity on this forum that stems from many different issues. But, even in the middle of positive threads you will inject your negative comments to try and bring others down to your level. My comments in my last post to you were sincere and honest I hold no grudges against anyone here and I can honestly say I don't hate or even dislike you. I may get angry in a conversation, but later that day or the next it's all water under the bridge fir me. When I lose my cool and respond negatively to someone, I regret it because I don't like that part of myself I have a mean and angry nature that I am trying to change. That's the best I can do, but soft isn't something I am not or have ever been and while I may appear to be soft there were people around this world who found out how soft I really am but unfortunately they can no longer tell anyone about it and that's the one thing I hate most about myself.

Even the CDC says to check back every few days for updates...which means changes.

Very well said, and you are certainly right I also believe your right in your comments above! Your a wonderful human being, I have never forgotten what you have done for me when I was down. You may not remember but I never forget positive things people have done for me! Peace!

Our realities are filtered through our beliefs, making personal experience highly subjective and up for interpretation.

And causing some doctors to miss them when they are really there. I complained for four years to my doctor about gaining weight while eating almost nothing but fruit and an once or two of cheese a day. He shrugged it off like "yeah, right" even though I was in my fifties and had never been fat in my life. I went to another doctor who checked my thyroid and put me in the hospital. I was prescribed medication and have lost 25 pounds of fluid in five weeks. I don't judge...

I wasn't hungry til I saw this ^

Good Luck with that, Lord Robathan . You're just showing your ignorance of the problem. There are more causes of obesity than over-eating and not taking enough exercise. Thyroid imbalances are now prevalent and are difficult to treat. The mental health component in obesity is also difficult to treat.

he said WHILE... not white also, Dave Chappelle is the best comedian of all time and The Closer is one of his best