chemical-licker Posted September 1, 2007 #1 Share Posted September 1, 2007 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770 White people in some of the UK's largest cities are likely to dwindle to a minority due to a boom in ethnic populations, experts claim. Birmingham, the country's second largest city, will have its one million population made up of largely ethnic minorities in 20 years time, researchers say. And Leicester's half-million population is likely to follow the same path in just four years time, it is believed. The research has sparked a warning from the country's top race relations expert, Trevor Phillips, that the changes could spark 'mistrust and fracture' if handled irresponsibly. Ludi Simpson, a social statistician at Manchester University, said the Pakistani population in Birmingham was likely to double by 2026. But he said this was due to young age of Pakistanis currently living in the city rather than an influx of immigrants. Dr Simpson said: "The overall picture is one of rapid natural growth plus some immigration, mainly of young spouses. "Birmingham is likely to become a minority white city in 2027, but a diverse one in which the white population remains more than twice the size of the Pakistani population which is predicted to become one fifth of the district's population by then." He warned that the idea of different ethnic groups finding a 'common identity' was 'utopian in quite a dangerous way' and 'completely unrealistic', according to the Daily Telegraph. "Lack of affordable housing, poor environments and anti-social behaviour are the issues, not ethnic composition nor segregation itself," he said. Nissa Finney, also from Manchester University, told the Royal Geographical Society's annual conference that 35 towns and cities in Britain had at least one ward which was "minority white". These included Birmingham, Burnley, Slough, Peterborough, Bolton and Derby, as well as Brent, Tower Hamlets, Ealing and Newham within London. Ms Finney said: "Clustering is the result of benign and natural population dynamics. There is no evidence of self-segregation or exceptional 'white flight'." Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Commission for Equality and Human Rights, said there were benefits but also warned of possible social tensions. Mr Phillips said: "Events across Europe have shown how segregation breeds mistrust and fracture. "The benefits of plural cities can be great, but we need to look at the future and act responsibly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted September 1, 2007 #2 Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) Hi, Its a National disgrace, Multiculturlism the Ideology forced on the People by the Government and guess what you dont have a say in it, so you can like it or lump it, its Great to live in the United Kingdom were you simply dont count, i cant wait until the "white" are a minority then we can have a good moan, go on marches asking for people to be killed and nothing will be done plus we can have the white police association and a load of other privilleges, Steve, Edited September 1, 2007 by stevewinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted September 1, 2007 #3 Share Posted September 1, 2007 i cant wait until the "white" are a minority then we can have a good moan, go on marches asking for people to be killed and nothing will be done plus we can have the white police association and a load of other privilleges, Steve, lol ain't that the truth... although I fear by the time this happens, the UK will be too corrupt and backwards to care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburst Posted September 1, 2007 #4 Share Posted September 1, 2007 man, that is weird.... ok, you know how everyone jokes that you won't find any African Americans in Mississippi. ok well, one day I was driving through some states on my way to a wedding. and we stoped in Mississippi to sleep. ok first off people, that joke is a lie!!!! everyone there was AA. we were the only snow there. it scared my sister. [she checked to make sure they didn't spit on our food] and everyone was looking at us weird. it was kinda creepy LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted September 1, 2007 #5 Share Posted September 1, 2007 man, that is weird.... ok, you know how everyone jokes that you won't find any African Americans in Mississippi. ok well, one day I was driving through some states on my way to a wedding. and we stoped in Mississippi to sleep. ok first off people, that joke is a lie!!!! everyone there was AA. we were the only snow there. it scared my sister. [she checked to make sure they didn't spit on our food] and everyone was looking at us weird. it was kinda creepy LOL!!! Hi mate, I know how your sister felt, i had to go to Birmingham it was the biggest eye open ever i found myself lost and was walking down one of the streets the shop names where all in the squiggly writing, the shops were selling all the Asian style clothes and foods and i have to admit i had a feeling deep inside, i can only describe it has angry upset and confussed, i could have been in any number of countries in the middle east, its about time people in the UK started to ask some serious questions and calling the government to account, all i can see happening in the future is the idenity of the UK being wiped away slowly but surlely, it might not be in 20 years or even in 30 years but not long after 80-100 years, i cant see the English putting up with it, there always comes a point when people say enough is enough, i hate it when people go on about the BNP. On the run up to every election the three "main parties" who never agree about anything all agree that the BNP is a bad idea, is it because the BNP might be talking sense and venture to say what others wont, its funny that most people are cynical when it comes to the government yet, will agree entirely if the racist card is played, please remember that if you live in the UK and your White you can be racists, but if your not white your just expressing your culture, here's a link, http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0 Watch the full video, now i know its made by the BNP.tv, but watch the actions of the police, but ask your self one question, is anything in that video lies people want to be told the truth, but cant handle it, Steve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoszerg Posted September 1, 2007 #6 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I live near there and the place is not that Bad lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted September 1, 2007 #7 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I live near there and the place is not that Bad lol. LoL, true, its worse, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted September 1, 2007 Author #8 Share Posted September 1, 2007 interesting video for sure, just proves how bad things really are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted September 1, 2007 #9 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Slough has already succumbed. The indigenous population is in the minority. The government says that this not happening in London, and continuously down-plays immigration figures. However, in a large number of London boroughs, there are black-only schools. (not because they SELECT blacks, but because there are no whites to be found). The UK is undergoing the biggest demographic change since the end of the last ice age... and we where NEVER allowed to vote on it. (errr... the demographic change, that is. Obviously we wheren't allowed to vote about the ice age...although if Gordon Brown had been around, no doubt there would have been an Ice Tax.) Meow Purr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted September 1, 2007 #10 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Slough has already succumbed. The indigenous population is in the minority. The government says that this not happening in London, and continuously down-plays immigration figures. However, in a large number of London boroughs, there are black-only schools. (not because they SELECT blacks, but because there are no whites to be found). The UK is undergoing the biggest demographic change since the end of the last ice age... and we where NEVER allowed to vote on it. (errr... the demographic change, that is. Obviously we wheren't allowed to vote about the ice age...although if Gordon Brown had been around, no doubt there would have been an Ice Tax.) Meow Purr. Hi all, Its true what you say about Gordy Brown, the government is even helping with recruitment, http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=6 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=7 Make up your own mind, i can see the gathering storm and people are not taking any notice, Steve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted September 1, 2007 #11 Share Posted September 1, 2007 This isn't the Britain of Heroes anymore - Those days are gone... What would they think? They gave their lives in ww2 and ww1 to only be beaten by spineless and disgusting PC-governments. It's a shame. If it gets worse, I'll be leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted September 1, 2007 #12 Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) Great Britain will no longer be great when its own NATIVES are in a minority. But ofcourse whenever someone mentions this they are called a Nazi. Usually people who don't even know what a Nazi stands for. Edited September 1, 2007 by Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted September 1, 2007 #13 Share Posted September 1, 2007 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770 White people in some of the UK's largest cities are likely to dwindle to a minority due to a boom in ethnic populations, experts claim. Birmingham, the country's second largest city, will have its one million population made up of largely ethnic minorities in 20 years time, researchers say. And Leicester's half-million population is likely to follow the same path in just four years time, it is believed. The research has sparked a warning from the country's top race relations expert, Trevor Phillips, that the changes could spark 'mistrust and fracture' if handled irresponsibly. Ludi Simpson, a social statistician at Manchester University, said the Pakistani population in Birmingham was likely to double by 2026. But he said this was due to young age of Pakistanis currently living in the city rather than an influx of immigrants. Dr Simpson said: "The overall picture is one of rapid natural growth plus some immigration, mainly of young spouses. "Birmingham is likely to become a minority white city in 2027, but a diverse one in which the white population remains more than twice the size of the Pakistani population which is predicted to become one fifth of the district's population by then." He warned that the idea of different ethnic groups finding a 'common identity' was 'utopian in quite a dangerous way' and 'completely unrealistic', according to the Daily Telegraph. "Lack of affordable housing, poor environments and anti-social behaviour are the issues, not ethnic composition nor segregation itself," he said. Nissa Finney, also from Manchester University, told the Royal Geographical Society's annual conference that 35 towns and cities in Britain had at least one ward which was "minority white". These included Birmingham, Burnley, Slough, Peterborough, Bolton and Derby, as well as Brent, Tower Hamlets, Ealing and Newham within London. Ms Finney said: "Clustering is the result of benign and natural population dynamics. There is no evidence of self-segregation or exceptional 'white flight'." Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Commission for Equality and Human Rights, said there were benefits but also warned of possible social tensions. Mr Phillips said: "Events across Europe have shown how segregation breeds mistrust and fracture. "The benefits of plural cities can be great, but we need to look at the future and act responsibly." we are reaping what our ancestors have sown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teej Posted September 1, 2007 #14 Share Posted September 1, 2007 But ofcourse whenever someone mentions this they are called a Nazi. Usually people who don't even know what a Nazi stands for. Apparently you don't, either. Nazis are extraordinarily xenophobic. So I guess people know more than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted September 1, 2007 #15 Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) Apparently you don't, either. Nazis are extraordinarily xenophobic. So I guess people know more than you think. Nazism = National Socialism. You can't be a 'Nazi' if you're not a Fascist. I hate how people throw around these words so quickly. PS: Most Fascists these days aren't even Nazis either! Edited September 1, 2007 by Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted September 1, 2007 #16 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Nazism = National Socialism. But the left is quick to throw around that word. So I guess it does show I know more than you. Its impossible to be a Nazi that doesn't belive in National Socialism. People throw around the term all the time. the word 'nazi' although originally an abreviation for germany's national socialists has become(quite rightly i think) a catchall term for fascist, homophobic, rascist, anti-semitic hate mongerers. i wouldn't neccessarily immediately think of goose stepping stoormtroopers or the gestapo when the word is mentioned nomadways. more the mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted September 1, 2007 #17 Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) the word 'nazi' although originally an abreviation for germany's national socialists has become(quite rightly i think) a catchall term for fascist, homophobic, rascist, anti-semitic hate mongerers. i wouldn't neccessarily immediately think of goose stepping stoormtroopers or the gestapo when the word is mentioned nomadways. more the mentality. I use the real definition not the MSM definition I don't call Liberals "communists" either. Edited September 1, 2007 by Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teej Posted September 1, 2007 #18 Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) Nazism = National Socialism. You can't be a 'Nazi' if you're not a Fascist. I hate how people throw around these words so quickly. PS: Most Fascists these days aren't even Nazis either! My mistake. Neo-Nazi is technically the better term. Splitting hairs over the definition in the book doesn't change what "Nazi" has come to mean, though. With your reasoning, we could never call America or any other representative country a "democracy" because the definition of democracy is every single person coming together to vote on every issue. But we do occasionally call both America and others a democracy, because it gets annoying clarifying it as a "Representative Democracy" every single time, and because "Democracy" has changed somewhat in meaning over time. Edited September 1, 2007 by Teej Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted September 1, 2007 #19 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I use the real definition not the MSM definition I don't call Liberals "communists" either. what's the MSM definition?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted September 1, 2007 #20 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I don't think America is a democracy, its a Republic. I've heard India was a democracy though. MSM, mainstream media, calls any racist a Nazi, which is wrong. Most Fascists are actually anti-racists these days anyways. Infact the only Fascist party in the United States is JEWISH and African-American! Theres very few who believe in National Socailism and they are the Neo-Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted September 1, 2007 #21 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I don't think America is a democracy, its a Republic. I've heard India was a democracy though. MSM, mainstream media, calls any racist a Nazi, which is wrong. Most Fascists are actually anti-racists these days anyways. Infact the only Fascist party in the United States is JEWISH and African-American! Theres very few who believe in National Socailism and they are the Neo-Nazis. thanks for the clarification. i was merely putting forth my view on the usage of the word nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omerta Posted September 1, 2007 #22 Share Posted September 1, 2007 hehe i live in Sherwood Park, a suburb of Edmonton, Alberta and whenever i go into Edmonton its shocking because theres so many ethnic minorites in the big cities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted September 1, 2007 #23 Share Posted September 1, 2007 hehe i live in Sherwood Park, a suburb of Edmonton, Alberta and whenever i go into Edmonton its shocking because theres so many ethnic minorites in the big cities you say 'shocking' but do you or any of the other posters really have a problem with the growth of ethnic minorities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted September 1, 2007 #24 Share Posted September 1, 2007 you say 'shocking' but do you or any of the other posters really have a problem with the growth of ethnic minorities? The growth of ethnic minorities is not shocking at all to me. Only the extra priveledges that they can claim which the indigenous people cannot (genarally speaking). I am actually extremely proud that London has 212 languages spoken within its limits, but extrememly disappointed that most of the larger ethnic groups dont seem to want to mix, and that through PC Governments we are not allowed to celebrate what were historic, cultural, and national identifiers in the same way in case we hurt some ethnic groups feelings. The answer for me was to move to move to Spain (Madrid) but even here the massive influx of South American immigrants is changing the National Identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted September 1, 2007 Author #25 Share Posted September 1, 2007 no because one day im gonna be one. remembering the good ole days when their was no muggings, no robberies, not that much corruption and how the sh** has now pilled up so high earth will be renamed b*lls**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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