Lilix_Vixen Posted September 17, 2007 #1 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Source: Pravda http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/12624_Holes.html 04-26-04 "Black Holes" Devour People Pravda A group of 150 people disappeared within one minute Witnesses clearly saw that a glimmering cloud shrouded the people who entered a small valley. Then the foggy mass lifted off and disappeared in the blue carrying along the first battalion of the 5th Norfolk regiment of the British army - all soldiers to a man were gone... Vanished in a cloud The event which occurred on August 21, 1915, when an entire battalion was gone in the presence of other people, had been an official secret for over fifty years. Only in 1967 the documents containing the testimonies of twenty witnesses to this incident, which happened in the Southern Europe near Dardanelles, were made public. A long search for the vanished soldiers was mounted. But none of them had been found neither among the dead, nor among the POWs released by Turks after the war. Mass disappearances of people are among the mysteries in the world history which are most hard to explain. So far scientists cannot offer a lucid explanation for such strange things, as the disappearance in 1590 of about a hundred men, women and children, who lived in an American colony on Roanoke Island. When the soldiers marched in the village, they saw burning candles and tables set for meal in the huts, but with no settlers around. The first idea was that Indians had killed them, but no drop of blood or dead body could be found anywhere. Only a few words were left carved seemingly in great haste on a tree near the priest's house reading "it doesn't look like... ". The search for six hundred inhabitants of the settlement Hoer- Verde in Brazil, who disappeared on February 5, 1923, was given up a long time ago. The police thoroughly examined the vacated small town. At school, they noticed a gun, which was apparently used the day before, lying on the floor and words "there is no salvation" written on a blackboard. "We can only guess why such mysteries happen, but so far we have failed to find any scientific explanation for them," said Zong Li, Doctor of History from Harbin, who had been investigating cases of mass disappearances in China for many years. "Well, how can the disappearance of 3, 000 Chinese soldiers near Nanking, where they held their positions on a December night in 1937, be explained? Next morning, radio communication with this unit was suddenly lost, and a reconnaissance group dispatched quickly did not find any trace of the people. It appeared as if they had deserted, but around there were posts of armed guard and the soldiers could not escape unnoticed. Recently, an investigation in the city archive produced evidence of the 12th company 100 strong of the Soviet NKVD forces disappeared in November 1945. The group was heading for the railway station and did not come back. A search yielded only slight traces like tents put up for a halt, or an extinguished fire. That same year, a train carrying hundreds of passengers traveling from Guandun to Shanghai was lost halfway to its destination, leaving not a single nut. Where might all the passengers have gone? The Ominous God Researcher Richard Lazarus suggests that meteorites are behind these mysteries. During their fall on the ground, celestial bodies are charged with a potential as high as billions of volt. On hitting Earth's surface they explode with a violent force, as it happened near the River Tunguska, Siberia. But sometimes meteorites fall apart before they reach Earth, hitting it with a huge wave of energy that creates electrostatic levitation. Under these circumstances, large groups of people, ships or even trains may be lifted up and transferred across vast distances. Ancient Greeks of the city-states situated in Italy attributed the disappearance of people to the deeds of god Proteus. Consisting of protoplasm it dozes underground and once in 50 years wakes up to have a meal. Proteus could transform into any thing and was imagined as coming to the surface from volcanoes. So, people had to sacrifice to it a hundred of virgin slave girls leaving them near a volcano. And they disappeared without a trace, leaving behind only their fetters. The well-known American writer Dean Koontz in his horror book Phantoms favors a theory of the incorporeal god and believes that Proteus existed in reality. "It is an enormous mass of protoplasm covering maybe an area of some square kilometers," explains Koontz. "Some millions years of age, it is probably one of the very first forms of life existing in the entrails of Earth or deep in the ocean. Once or twice in a century it eats people dissolving and digesting them almost entirely. Deep pools of water were found in the huts of Roanoke colony. A Chinese pilot searching for a missed train spotted from air a small lake that seemed to emerge from nowhere. Frozen water was found in the huts of an abandoned small Eskimo village on the shores of Lake Anjikuni, Canada, in 1930. The human body is 90 percent water, and that was perhaps all that was left of the dissolved victims of Proteus. Missing ships Stories about crews vanishing with their ships are known worldwide. The story of the brig Mary Celeste found in 1872 drifting between the Azores and Portugal is a classic example. A boarding party dispatched from another ship discovered unfinished smoking tobacco pipes, prepared meals, mugs with dried up beer... and not a single sailor onboard. The same happened near Philippines when in 1955 the steam-ship Hoita was found drifting without a crew, or in 1941, when a patrol vessel in the North Atlantic came upon the ship Iceland to find her engines running and everything looking normal, except that not a single soul was seen anywhere around. "I blame the so-called "black holes" for disappearance of people", says Jane Lindsett, Professor, California University, San Francisco. "Periodically, time and space on Earth refract, and entire cities may find themselves in a different dimension, which sometimes "spits them out". There are scores of such "black holes " on Earth, and people frequently get in them. A decade ago, a 36-year-old Lydia Kimfield, Androver (Texas), disappeared during her visit to the doctor. An hour later her body was found one thousand kilometers away from the city. An autopsy showed that she had died two months earlier! In the state of New Mexico there is a road on which 19 people disappeared without a trace, the last case being in 1997. The road runs across the desert, which can be observed from air. The vanished people might have been carried over to the ocean or woods where they perished. Objects cannot travel across space, that's why ships were found vacated, but the belongings of those who disappeared were in place". At the same time, Professor Lindsett cannot explain the mysterious signs on the wall of the Mayan temple and on the tree in Roanoke. One of the recent bizarre events happened in the village of Stomu, Congo, in 2001 in a quiet area in the north, where the local insurgents were not active. The UN staff that brought humanitarian aid to the village (there are problems with food supplies in that country ) found there neither people, nor domestic animals and poultry. The tribe leader attempted to give a warning in the local language about something awful using a piece of charcoal to scrawl "Run! It...". But the phrase was left unfinished. Apropos In the Soviet Union, the authorities generally hushed up cases of unexplained disappearance of people. However, in 1991, the KGB declassified some information about an An-2 airplane, which had vanished from the radar screens thirty years earlier near the city of Sverdlovsk with seven people aboard. Soon, a rescue team in the woods found the wrecks of the disintegrated airplane. Not a trace of bodies or a drop of blood inevitably present after similar crashes was found, only a circle of unclear origin 30 meters in diameter was burnt out on the ground not far from the crash site. Later, the rescuers had to sign papers undertaking recognizance not to disclose anything they had seen. What are your thoughts on mass disappearences thought out time?? Are any of these theories even close? 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nativechick1989 Posted September 17, 2007 #2 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I've seen a documentary on this .... 'Earth's Black Holes' .......... interesting piece, mainly focused on The Bermuda Triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skeptic Eric Raven Posted September 17, 2007 #3 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Pravda is like Weekly World news. Its made up stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilix_Vixen Posted September 17, 2007 Author #4 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Pravda is like Weekly World news. Its made up stories. That maybe the case be the that doesn't change the fact that you can find these mass disappearences in other medias. How can you be a skeptic? Aren't skeptics suppose to need fact to draw a conclusion?? Well how about you look up these cases and see if Pravda is really making these cases up?? Then you can say they are made up. Okay, deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skeptic Eric Raven Posted September 17, 2007 #5 Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) That maybe the case be the that doesn't change the fact that you can find these mass disappearences in other medias. How can you be a skeptic? Aren't skeptics suppose to need fact to draw a conclusion?? Well how about you look up these cases and see if Pravda is really making these cases up?? Then you can say they are made up. Okay, deal? I think you need to look into Pravda. They have stories about vampires & batboys. They are known to fake stories. Thats why people read them.You deal with fake stuff. I will deal with reality. IF YOU CAN FIND THEM IN OTHER MEDIA SOURCES PLEASE POST THE LINKS(legit sources). I will be waiting. Edited September 17, 2007 by Eric Raven The Skeptic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted September 17, 2007 #6 Share Posted September 17, 2007 "I blame the so-called "black holes" for disappearance of people", says Jane Lindsett, Professor, California University, San Francisco. "Periodically, time and space on Earth refract, and entire cities may find themselves in a different dimension, which sometimes "spits them out". There are scores of such "black holes " on Earth, and people frequently get in them. I think that says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threepwud Posted September 17, 2007 #7 Share Posted September 17, 2007 For one, the Mary Celeste was not simply abandoned in the fashion stated above. Contrary to belief, there were no meals set on the table nor were there dried up beer mugs. This is a fabrication created by Arthur Conan Doyle, the chap who also created Sherlock Holmes. The captain was also very religious and did not permit his crew to drink or carry alcohol on board. The cargo was labelled 'Alcohol' but was not for consumption (ethanol for medical uses). If this detail was added as a truth in the above artical, how much else could we derive as being true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethat Posted September 17, 2007 #8 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I think that most of these stories are exaggerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear's Quest Posted September 17, 2007 #9 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Odd- sounds familiar to a true missing at sea off the coast of northern Australian waters about 6 months ago. A boat with no one aboard and yet a laptop was on and food was set on the table ready to be eaten. Never heard anymore about it. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilix_Vixen Posted September 17, 2007 Author #10 Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) www.maryceleste.net It was 9am on the morning of Friday, December 13th 1872 when people on the waterfront saw a small two-masted sailing vessel entering the Bay of Gibraltar. The ship was the 'Mary Celeste' of New York, a Canadian built 100 foot brigantine of 282 tons registered in New York. The registered owners were James H Winchester (12/24) Sylvester Goodwin (2/24) and Benjamin Spooner Briggs (8/24). Her master, Benjamin Spooner Briggs known in Gibraltar to be a staunch abstainer and devout bible reader. At the inquiry the ships main owner James Henry Winchester gave evidence that the Captain was a courageous officer who would not dessert his ship except to save his life. The second-in-command, the Mate, was Albert Richardson, who was also considered by Winchester to be fit to command himself. But of the good Captain Briggs, his wife Sarah, two year old daughter Sophia Matilda, and the crew of seven, nothing was to be seen or found ever again. And so begins the greatest of mysteries, or at least it might seem. However, were it not for Dr Arthur Conan Doyle, struggling to establish himself as a writer prior to creating Sherlock Holmes, perhaps the world would not have ever known or cared. The story, like many a tale, it has grown with the telling, to incorporate speculation of further mysteries, including pirates, creatures from the deep, abduction by aliens, submarines, and time travel. Conan Doyle's short story about the 'Marie Celeste' (he changed the name from Mary) turned a minor puzzle into one of the most famous legends of the sea. Nevertheless we should recognise it was fiction, for which his editor paid 30 Pounds, which would have been a respectable sum in 1884. Turning back to the REAL story, which survives because shipping companies and court inquiries leave behind ample records to be researched, we find the following facts; Maine Lloyds $ 6000 Orient Mutual Insurance Co. $ 4000 Mercantile Mutual Insurance Co. $ 2500 New England Mutual Insurance Co. $ 1500 The 'Mary Celeste' had sailed from New York on November 7th bound for Genoa with a cargo of 1701 barrels of American Alcohol, shipped by Meissner Ackermann & Co., value approximatly $35,000 the purpose of which was to fortify wine. The value of the freight on the alcohol was $3,400 and the ship herself $14,000. The Vessels cargo was insured in Europe, and the hull insurance was carried by American companies. The Freight was insured by the Atlantic Mutual Insurance Company of New York, today the only survivor of the American insurers. She was followed on 15th November by the 'Dei Gratia' which followed a roughly parallel course across the Atlantic carrying a cargo 1735 barrels of petroleum. On the Afternoon of December 5th 1872 half way between the Azores and the Portuguese coast the 'Dei Gratia' came up with a Brigantine which Captain Morehouse recognised as the 'Mary Celeste'. He knew Captain Briggs and had dined with him before he sailed. He was puzzled to see the ship yawing, coming into the wind and then falling off, she was out of control. He knew Captain Briggs to be a good seaman. There were no distress signals, and after watching for two hours and hailing her and getting no reply they set off in a small boat and duly boarded her. The vessel was found to be in good seaworthy condition and the general impression was that the crew had left in a great hurry. They had left behind their oil skin boots and pipes. Captain Morehouse's explanation was that they had left in panic thinking the vessel to be sinking. The chronometer and sextant were not found on board. The last entry on the ships slate showed she had made the island of St Mary in the Azores on November 25th. Rense.com Vanished - Strange Cases Of Unsolved Disappearances By Stephen Wagner http://paranormal.about.com/science/paranormal/ For more information, visit Stephen's excellent site 6-18-1 The Mysterious Cloud Three soldiers claimed to be witnesses to the bizarre disappearance of an entire battalion in 1915. They finally came forward with the strange story 50 years after the infamous Gallipoli campaign of WWI. The three members of a New Zealand field company said they watched from a clear vantage point as a battalion of the Royal Norfolk Regiment marched up a hillside in Suvla Bay, Turkey. The hill was shrouded in a low-lying cloud that the English soldiers marched straight into without hesitation. They never came out. After the last of the battalion had entered the cloud, it slowly lifted off the hillside to join other clouds in the sky. When the war was over, figuring the battalion had been captured and held prisoner, the British government demanded that Turkey return them. The Turks insisted, however, that it had neither captured not made contact with these English soldiers. Rense.com Vanished - Strange Cases Of Unsolved Disappearances By Stephen Wagner http://paranormal.about.com/science/paranormal/ For more information, visit Stephen's excellent site 6-18-1 The Village That Disappeared An individual that vanishes is one thing, but how about an entire village of 2,000 men, women and children? In November, 1930, a fur trapper named Joe Labelle made his way on snow shoes to an Eskimo village on the shores of Lake Anjikuni in northern Canada. Labelle was familiar with the village, which he knew as a thriving fishing community of about 2,000 residents. When he arrived, however, the village was deserted. All of the huts and storehouses were vacant. He found one smoldering fire on which there was a pot of blackened stew. Labelle notified the authorities and an investigation was begun, and which turned up some bizarre findings: no footprints of any of the residents were found, if they had vacated the village; all of the Eskimos' sled dogs were found buried under a 12-foot-high snow drift - they had all starved to death; all of the Eskimos' food and provisions were found undisturbed in their huts. And there was one last unnerving discovery: the Eskimos' ancestral graves had been emptied. I'm not saying I believe in the explaination given. Only that this disappearences are bizarre. Here you go other media links. Eric the skeptic are you trying to be rude and insult me saying I only deal with fake stuff?? And as for "you'll be waiting". Kinda sounds rude. I hope you didn't mean any of it to be rude. 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woodwosa Posted September 17, 2007 #11 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Source: Pravda http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/12624_Holes.html 04-26-04 "Black Holes" Devour People Pravda A group of 150 people disappeared within one minute Witnesses clearly saw that a glimmering cloud shrouded the people who entered a small valley. Then the foggy mass lifted off and disappeared in the blue carrying along the first battalion of the 5th Norfolk regiment of the British army - all soldiers to a man were gone... Vanished in a cloud The event which occurred on August 21, 1915, when an entire battalion was gone in the presence of other people, had been an official secret for over fifty years. Only in 1967 the documents containing the testimonies of twenty witnesses to this incident, which happened in the Southern Europe near Dardanelles, were made public. A long search for the vanished soldiers was mounted. But none of them had been found neither among the dead, nor among the POWs released by Turks after the war. Mass disappearances of people are among the mysteries in the world history which are most hard to explain. So far scientists cannot offer a lucid explanation for such strange things, as the disappearance in 1590 of about a hundred men, women and children, who lived in an American colony on Roanoke Island. When the soldiers marched in the village, they saw burning candles and tables set for meal in the huts, but with no settlers around. The first idea was that Indians had killed them, but no drop of blood or dead body could be found anywhere. Only a few words were left carved seemingly in great haste on a tree near the priest's house reading "it doesn't look like... ". The search for six hundred inhabitants of the settlement Hoer- Verde in Brazil, who disappeared on February 5, 1923, was given up a long time ago. The police thoroughly examined the vacated small town. At school, they noticed a gun, which was apparently used the day before, lying on the floor and words "there is no salvation" written on a blackboard. "We can only guess why such mysteries happen, but so far we have failed to find any scientific explanation for them," said Zong Li, Doctor of History from Harbin, who had been investigating cases of mass disappearances in China for many years. "Well, how can the disappearance of 3, 000 Chinese soldiers near Nanking, where they held their positions on a December night in 1937, be explained? Next morning, radio communication with this unit was suddenly lost, and a reconnaissance group dispatched quickly did not find any trace of the people. It appeared as if they had deserted, but around there were posts of armed guard and the soldiers could not escape unnoticed. Recently, an investigation in the city archive produced evidence of the 12th company 100 strong of the Soviet NKVD forces disappeared in November 1945. The group was heading for the railway station and did not come back. A search yielded only slight traces like tents put up for a halt, or an extinguished fire. That same year, a train carrying hundreds of passengers traveling from Guandun to Shanghai was lost halfway to its destination, leaving not a single nut. Where might all the passengers have gone? The Ominous God Researcher Richard Lazarus suggests that meteorites are behind these mysteries. During their fall on the ground, celestial bodies are charged with a potential as high as billions of volt. On hitting Earth's surface they explode with a violent force, as it happened near the River Tunguska, Siberia. But sometimes meteorites fall apart before they reach Earth, hitting it with a huge wave of energy that creates electrostatic levitation. Under these circumstances, large groups of people, ships or even trains may be lifted up and transferred across vast distances. Ancient Greeks of the city-states situated in Italy attributed the disappearance of people to the deeds of god Proteus. Consisting of protoplasm it dozes underground and once in 50 years wakes up to have a meal. Proteus could transform into any thing and was imagined as coming to the surface from volcanoes. So, people had to sacrifice to it a hundred of virgin slave girls leaving them near a volcano. And they disappeared without a trace, leaving behind only their fetters. The well-known American writer Dean Koontz in his horror book Phantoms favors a theory of the incorporeal god and believes that Proteus existed in reality. "It is an enormous mass of protoplasm covering maybe an area of some square kilometers," explains Koontz. "Some millions years of age, it is probably one of the very first forms of life existing in the entrails of Earth or deep in the ocean. Once or twice in a century it eats people dissolving and digesting them almost entirely. Deep pools of water were found in the huts of Roanoke colony. A Chinese pilot searching for a missed train spotted from air a small lake that seemed to emerge from nowhere. Frozen water was found in the huts of an abandoned small Eskimo village on the shores of Lake Anjikuni, Canada, in 1930. The human body is 90 percent water, and that was perhaps all that was left of the dissolved victims of Proteus. Missing ships Stories about crews vanishing with their ships are known worldwide. The story of the brig Mary Celeste found in 1872 drifting between the Azores and Portugal is a classic example. A boarding party dispatched from another ship discovered unfinished smoking tobacco pipes, prepared meals, mugs with dried up beer... and not a single sailor onboard. The same happened near Philippines when in 1955 the steam-ship Hoita was found drifting without a crew, or in 1941, when a patrol vessel in the North Atlantic came upon the ship Iceland to find her engines running and everything looking normal, except that not a single soul was seen anywhere around. "I blame the so-called "black holes" for disappearance of people", says Jane Lindsett, Professor, California University, San Francisco. "Periodically, time and space on Earth refract, and entire cities may find themselves in a different dimension, which sometimes "spits them out". There are scores of such "black holes " on Earth, and people frequently get in them. A decade ago, a 36-year-old Lydia Kimfield, Androver (Texas), disappeared during her visit to the doctor. An hour later her body was found one thousand kilometers away from the city. An autopsy showed that she had died two months earlier! In the state of New Mexico there is a road on which 19 people disappeared without a trace, the last case being in 1997. The road runs across the desert, which can be observed from air. The vanished people might have been carried over to the ocean or woods where they perished. Objects cannot travel across space, that's why ships were found vacated, but the belongings of those who disappeared were in place". At the same time, Professor Lindsett cannot explain the mysterious signs on the wall of the Mayan temple and on the tree in Roanoke. One of the recent bizarre events happened in the village of Stomu, Congo, in 2001 in a quiet area in the north, where the local insurgents were not active. The UN staff that brought humanitarian aid to the village (there are problems with food supplies in that country ) found there neither people, nor domestic animals and poultry. The tribe leader attempted to give a warning in the local language about something awful using a piece of charcoal to scrawl "Run! It...". But the phrase was left unfinished. Apropos In the Soviet Union, the authorities generally hushed up cases of unexplained disappearance of people. However, in 1991, the KGB declassified some information about an An-2 airplane, which had vanished from the radar screens thirty years earlier near the city of Sverdlovsk with seven people aboard. Soon, a rescue team in the woods found the wrecks of the disintegrated airplane. Not a trace of bodies or a drop of blood inevitably present after similar crashes was found, only a circle of unclear origin 30 meters in diameter was burnt out on the ground not far from the crash site. Later, the rescuers had to sign papers undertaking recognizance not to disclose anything they had seen. What are your thoughts on mass disappearences thought out time?? 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Lilix_Vixen Posted September 17, 2007 Author #12 Share Posted September 17, 2007 www.maryceleste.net It was 9am on the morning of Friday, December 13th 1872 when people on the waterfront saw a small two-masted sailing vessel entering the Bay of Gibraltar. The ship was the 'Mary Celeste' of New York, a Canadian built 100 foot brigantine of 282 tons registered in New York. The registered owners were James H Winchester (12/24) Sylvester Goodwin (2/24) and Benjamin Spooner Briggs (8/24). Her master, Benjamin Spooner Briggs known in Gibraltar to be a staunch abstainer and devout bible reader. At the inquiry the ships main owner James Henry Winchester gave evidence that the Captain was a courageous officer who would not dessert his ship except to save his life. The second-in-command, the Mate, was Albert Richardson, who was also considered by Winchester to be fit to command himself. But of the good Captain Briggs, his wife Sarah, two year old daughter Sophia Matilda, and the crew of seven, nothing was to be seen or found ever again. And so begins the greatest of mysteries, or at least it might seem. However, were it not for Dr Arthur Conan Doyle, struggling to establish himself as a writer prior to creating Sherlock Holmes, perhaps the world would not have ever known or cared. The story, like many a tale, it has grown with the telling, to incorporate speculation of further mysteries, including pirates, creatures from the deep, abduction by aliens, submarines, and time travel. Conan Doyle's short story about the 'Marie Celeste' (he changed the name from Mary) turned a minor puzzle into one of the most famous legends of the sea. Nevertheless we should recognise it was fiction, for which his editor paid 30 Pounds, which would have been a respectable sum in 1884. Turning back to the REAL story, which survives because shipping companies and court inquiries leave behind ample records to be researched, we find the following facts; Maine Lloyds $ 6000 Orient Mutual Insurance Co. $ 4000 Mercantile Mutual Insurance Co. $ 2500 New England Mutual Insurance Co. $ 1500 The 'Mary Celeste' had sailed from New York on November 7th bound for Genoa with a cargo of 1701 barrels of American Alcohol, shipped by Meissner Ackermann & Co., value approximatly $35,000 the purpose of which was to fortify wine. The value of the freight on the alcohol was $3,400 and the ship herself $14,000. The Vessels cargo was insured in Europe, and the hull insurance was carried by American companies. The Freight was insured by the Atlantic Mutual Insurance Company of New York, today the only survivor of the American insurers. She was followed on 15th November by the 'Dei Gratia' which followed a roughly parallel course across the Atlantic carrying a cargo 1735 barrels of petroleum. On the Afternoon of December 5th 1872 half way between the Azores and the Portuguese coast the 'Dei Gratia' came up with a Brigantine which Captain Morehouse recognised as the 'Mary Celeste'. He knew Captain Briggs and had dined with him before he sailed. He was puzzled to see the ship yawing, coming into the wind and then falling off, she was out of control. He knew Captain Briggs to be a good seaman. There were no distress signals, and after watching for two hours and hailing her and getting no reply they set off in a small boat and duly boarded her. The vessel was found to be in good seaworthy condition and the general impression was that the crew had left in a great hurry. They had left behind their oil skin boots and pipes. Captain Morehouse's explanation was that they had left in panic thinking the vessel to be sinking. The chronometer and sextant were not found on board. The last entry on the ships slate showed she had made the island of St Mary in the Azores on November 25th. Rense.com Vanished - Strange Cases Of Unsolved Disappearances By Stephen Wagner http://paranormal.about.com/science/paranormal/ For more information, visit Stephen's excellent site 6-18-1 The Mysterious Cloud Three soldiers claimed to be witnesses to the bizarre disappearance of an entire battalion in 1915. They finally came forward with the strange story 50 years after the infamous Gallipoli campaign of WWI. The three members of a New Zealand field company said they watched from a clear vantage point as a battalion of the Royal Norfolk Regiment marched up a hillside in Suvla Bay, Turkey. The hill was shrouded in a low-lying cloud that the English soldiers marched straight into without hesitation. They never came out. After the last of the battalion had entered the cloud, it slowly lifted off the hillside to join other clouds in the sky. When the war was over, figuring the battalion had been captured and held prisoner, the British government demanded that Turkey return them. The Turks insisted, however, that it had neither captured not made contact with these English soldiers. Rense.com Vanished - Strange Cases Of Unsolved Disappearances By Stephen Wagner http://paranormal.about.com/science/paranormal/ For more information, visit Stephen's excellent site 6-18-1 The Village That Disappeared An individual that vanishes is one thing, but how about an entire village of 2,000 men, women and children? In November, 1930, a fur trapper named Joe Labelle made his way on snow shoes to an Eskimo village on the shores of Lake Anjikuni in northern Canada. Labelle was familiar with the village, which he knew as a thriving fishing community of about 2,000 residents. When he arrived, however, the village was deserted. All of the huts and storehouses were vacant. He found one smoldering fire on which there was a pot of blackened stew. Labelle notified the authorities and an investigation was begun, and which turned up some bizarre findings: no footprints of any of the residents were found, if they had vacated the village; all of the Eskimos' sled dogs were found buried under a 12-foot-high snow drift - they had all starved to death; all of the Eskimos' food and provisions were found undisturbed in their huts. And there was one last unnerving discovery: the Eskimos' ancestral graves had been emptied. I'm not saying I believe in the explaination given. Only that this disappearences are bizarre. Here you go other media links. Eric the skeptic are you trying to be rude and insult me saying I only deal with fake stuff?? And as for "you'll be waiting". Kinda sounds rude. I hope you didn't mean any of it to be rude. Which story??? 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Rosenrot Posted September 18, 2007 #13 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Mass disappearances of people are among the mysteries in the world history which are most hard to explain. So far scientists cannot offer a lucid explanation for such strange things, as the disappearance in 1590 of about a hundred men, women and children, who lived in an American colony on Roanoke Island. When the soldiers marched in the village, they saw burning candles and tables set for meal in the huts, but with no settlers around. The first idea was that Indians had killed them, but no drop of blood or dead body could be found anywhere. Only a few words were left carved seemingly in great haste on a tree near the priest's house reading "it doesn't look like... ". Here is the first fallacy of the article. Roanoke Island didn't happen as the article describes. The village was dismantled. A few graves were found. There were no burning candles or open books. The villagers packed up and left, taking most of their stuff with them. And the carving on the tree read "CRO" which was taken to mean that the colonists had gone to Croatian Island. Most probably explanation: the colonists meshed in with the Native Tribes. Wikipedia does a pretty good job of summing the whole thing up. It even includes some theories on what happened to the lost colonists. If this detail was added as a truth in the above artical, how much else could we derive as being true? I can only account for the details in the Roanoke Island story. And it does make me wonder how much is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguat Posted September 18, 2007 #14 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Sounds like fraud to me....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalienan Posted September 18, 2007 #15 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I have no idea how many of these stories are true...Alot of them sound as if information (whether true or false), has been added on to them...I can't buy the meteorite story, and alot of stories about "The Bermuda Triangle" have been written that UFO's are involved...But if these events really did happen, it makes you wonder what happened to these people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilix_Vixen Posted September 18, 2007 Author #16 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I have no idea how many of these stories are true...Alot of them sound as if information (whether true or false), has been added on to them...I can't buy the meteorite story, and alot of stories about "The Bermuda Triangle" have been written that UFO's are involved...But if these events really did happen, it makes you wonder what happened to these people... Exactly my point. People disappear all the time. But imagine if whole communities just vanished. That is more than frightening. Here is link to some stories of people just vanishing. paranormal.about /url] Vanished By the same man, Stephan Wagner from About.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalienan Posted September 18, 2007 #17 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Exactly my point. People disappear all the time. But imagine if whole communities just vanished. That is more than frightening. Here is link to some stories of people just vanishing. paranormal.about /url] Vanished By the same man, Stephan Wagner from About.com. Thanks for the links... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_psychosis Posted September 18, 2007 #18 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Anybody read the book 'Phantoms' by Dean Koontz? Its about a little town in Colorado where everybody disappears. It talks about some supposedly true stories of mass disappearances also. Excellent book. The movie (with Peter O'Toole and Ben Affleck) is very good to. "150 dead and 350 missing in the tiny mountain town of Snowfield, Colorado. And that's only the beginning... In the peaceful town of Snowfield, Colorado something evil has wiped out the community. And now, its up to a group of people to stop it, or at least get out of Snowfield alive." (Quote from IMDb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted September 18, 2007 #19 Share Posted September 18, 2007 ^ I read that. I love Koontz. I'd dig his grocery list out of the trash and read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zu13 Posted September 18, 2007 #20 Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) "I blame the so-called "black holes" for disappearance of people", says Jane Lindsett, Professor, California University, San Francisco. "Periodically, time and space on Earth refract, and entire cities may find themselves in a different dimension, which sometimes "spits them out". There are scores of such "black holes " on Earth, and people frequently get in them. I think that says it all. Technically, there is no such thing as California University it is properly called University of California, San Francisco. Their website has no professor Jane Lindsett listed and a Google search of her name or California University only turns up the same brief quote. She may be only a fabrication. However there is a Dr. Jane Lindsay who is an Emergency Medicine Physician in Redwood California. A Google search of her name and key words relevant to this story produces no results. Sorry. Edited September 18, 2007 by Zu13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted September 18, 2007 #21 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Technically, there is no such thing as California University it is properly called University of California, San Francisco. Their website has no professor Jane Lindsett listed and a Google search of her name or California University only turns up the same brief quote. She may be only a fabrication. However there is a Dr. Jane Lindsay who is an Emergency Medicine Physician in Redwood California. A Google search of her name and key words relevant to this story produces no results. Sorry. It's okay. I was pointing out how ludicrous the post was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfstone810 Posted September 18, 2007 #22 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Regarding Roanoke, the existence, in later generations, of blue-eyed Native Americans lends a lot of weight to the theory that the missing Europeans simply left and joined one of the tribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilix_Vixen Posted September 18, 2007 Author #23 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Anybody read the book 'Phantoms' by Dean Koontz? Its about a little town in Colorado where everybody disappears. It talks about some supposedly true stories of mass disappearances also. Excellent book. The movie (with Peter O'Toole and Ben Affleck) is very good to. "150 dead and 350 missing in the tiny mountain town of Snowfield, Colorado. And that's only the beginning... In the peaceful town of Snowfield, Colorado something evil has wiped out the community. And now, its up to a group of people to stop it, or at least get out of Snowfield alive." (Quote from IMDb) I love Dean Koontz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_psychosis Posted September 18, 2007 #24 Share Posted September 18, 2007 ^ I read that. I love Koontz. I'd dig his grocery list out of the trash and read that. .... Wait. What am I laughing at? So would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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