supercar Posted September 29, 2007 #1 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Illegal migrants rescued by the Turkish Coast Guard in the Aegean Sea claimed Greek officials had thrown them overboard. If their story is true, it's an international scandal. It also calls attention to another hotspot for immigrants trying to reach Europe. Greek authorities have denied knowledge of an alleged incident in which Greek officials threw illegal immigrants into the Aegean Sea off the coast of Turkey. On Tuesday morning, some 31 illegals were plucked out of the sea near the Turkish coastal city of Izmir. They claimed that the Greek Coast Guard had thrown them into the water. They did so, said one survivor, "without even asking if we could swim," according to Turkey's state-owned Anatolia news agency. Six people have reportedly drowned; three are missing. Greek officials denied the charges in general terms. "We never throw people into the sea," said Haris Bournias, a Greek Coast Guard commander on the island of Chios. Turkey's coastline is a major transit area for illegal immigrants trying to reach Europe, and Bournias said smugglers regularly set immigrants adrift in little boats without lights. "Many people drown that way in the straits," said Bournias, and in fact early reports in the Turkish media claimed the survivors had washed ashore after their boat sank off the Turkish coast. Still, on Wednesday Turkey's Foreign Ministry lodged an official complaint through diplomatic channels in Athens. "Greek authorities have been increasingly dumping some groups of illegal migrants in Turkish waters in violation of" a bilateral agreement to return them, said ministry spokesman Namik Tan in a statement, adding that "the mentioned practice cannot continue." According to reports, the survivors included Palestinians, Lebanese, Tunisians, Iraqis and one Algerian. Residents on the coast of Izmir had called the Turkish Coast Guard on Tuesday morning after being awakened by barking dogs and cries for help. The suvivors claimed that they had set off from Izmir province in a boat and landed on Chios. But they were captured by uniformed Greeks who placed them on a Coast Guard ship that carried them back toward Izmir, where they were tossed into the sea. "Two of our friends drowned in front of our eyes," Muhammedi Alti, a Lebanese national, told the Anatolia news agency. "I still can't believe what we have lived through ... We had thought that human rights would be more valuable in Europe." http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,439761,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 29, 2007 #2 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Oh my, I doubt this is true. well I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted September 29, 2007 #3 Share Posted September 29, 2007 yeah its no good we have had cases of illegal immigrants sabotaging their boats so we have to take them in australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted September 29, 2007 #4 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Oh my, I doubt this is true. well I hope not. I hope it's not true as well.. It very well could have been drug runners or illegals or what have you, that when caught jumped ship and couldn't be rescued? If the the Greeks really wanted to be rid of these guys they wouldn't have left them floating to be found ! Fishy ! To add, once these guys were found they had a lawyer to make this accusation, because they want in and they will lie to get in. What better way then this to stay out of the country you are fleeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted September 29, 2007 #5 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Go Greeks! I love their heavy handed approach to blood sucking leeches if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atheist God Posted September 29, 2007 #6 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Wow these guys are d*****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted September 29, 2007 #7 Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) This is terrible... what a tragedy C'mon admit it though, who didn't laugh when they read the title..? Edited September 29, 2007 by billyhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atheist God Posted September 29, 2007 #8 Share Posted September 29, 2007 This is terrible... what a tragedy C'mon admit it though, who didn't laugh when they read the title..? Me cause it's just not something i find amusing cause I'm not 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted September 29, 2007 #9 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Wow these guys are d*****. I know but I don't think they deserved to be throw into the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atheist God Posted September 29, 2007 #10 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I know but I don't think they deserved to be throw into the sea. I wasn't talking about the immigrants.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted September 29, 2007 #11 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I know but I don't think they deserved to be throw into the sea. AAAHHHH...that British humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted September 29, 2007 #12 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I wasn't talking about the immigrants.... yes the people who threw them in were 'd****' or d********.. (smirks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted September 29, 2007 #13 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Go Greeks! I love their heavy handed approach to blood sucking leeches if this is true. They certainly have a more robust immigration policy than us Brits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted September 29, 2007 #14 Share Posted September 29, 2007 They certainly have a more robust immigration policy than us Brits... It's a bit flashy, but effective ehh well except for the guys that lived, or the guys that failed to make sure threr dead! hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoszerg Posted September 29, 2007 #15 Share Posted September 29, 2007 WOW! I guess thats one way of sorting out the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted September 29, 2007 #16 Share Posted September 29, 2007 It's a bit flashy, but effective ehh well except for the guys that lived, or the guys that failed to make sure threr dead! hmmm They need to leave a few alive to pass the message on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 29, 2007 #17 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Oh my, I doubt this is true. well I hope not. Hmmm.. there are two parts in this story... the first is that Der Spiegel is one of the high regarded magazines, they seldom got a story wrong (as far as I remember once since 1955) so there must be something there. The question is what, and so far we only have the one word against the other. I have someone checking the story... keep ya posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 29, 2007 #18 Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) Hmmm.. there are two parts in this story... the first is that Der Spiegel is one of the high regarded magazines, they seldom got a story wrong (as far as I remember once since 1955) so there must be something there. The question is what, and so far we only have the one word against the other. I have someone checking the story... keep ya posted. Thanks, questionmark. just put the full report on my desk when your done. Edited September 29, 2007 by Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted September 29, 2007 #19 Share Posted September 29, 2007 This is terrible... what a tragedy C'mon admit it though, who didn't laugh when they read the title..? Im with you BillyHill, I had to laugh, its a shame the British Government doesnt do the same, mind you if the British Government done the same we'd have floating Islands of Immigrants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 29, 2007 #20 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Thanks, questionmark. just put the full report on my desk when your done. Sorry, not doing it for you.... but it gave me a good occasion to ask certain joker in Athens why I learn this from UM and not from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted September 29, 2007 #21 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Hmmm.. there are two parts in this story... the first is that Der Spiegel is one of the high regarded magazines, they seldom got a story wrong (as far as I remember once since 1955) so there must be something there. The question is what, and so far we only have the one word against the other. I have someone checking the story... keep ya posted. Two copies for me please Questionmark... and can you bind them, rather than stapling them please ? Meow Purr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 29, 2007 #22 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Two copies for me please Questionmark... and can you bind them, rather than stapling them please ? Meow Purr. see above .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 29, 2007 #23 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Two copies for me please Questionmark... and can you bind them, rather than stapling them please ? Meow Purr. Yes, and a next of kind report along with LOTS of pictures. I'll be expecting the 44 page report on my desk monday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted September 29, 2007 #24 Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) I'll also be expecting the a report on my desk, monday morning as well. Along with hard evidence.. please...such as a dead 'water bloated' immigrant, that will do just fine. Thanks. Edited September 29, 2007 by billyhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted September 29, 2007 #25 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Go Greeks! I love their heavy handed approach to blood sucking leeches if this is true. The Greeks think of everything... From democracy to this. We have a lot to learn from the Greeks still, lets hope we catch on to their methods quick. Just imagine... A world where no more illegal immigrants leech off your land and your taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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