Tommy Posted August 20, 2002 #1 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Looks like the MOD has been developing 'electric armour'. :s8 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2002%2F08%2F19%2Fnmod19.xml :sg EDIT - fixed link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceyKC Posted August 20, 2002 #2 Share Posted August 20, 2002 That is astounding!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Posted August 20, 2002 #3 Share Posted August 20, 2002 I want some........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonboy Posted August 20, 2002 #4 Share Posted August 20, 2002 [blue]It makes the mind boggle as to what the applications to other craft/buildings/weapons will be... [/blue] :si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosis Posted August 20, 2002 #5 Share Posted August 20, 2002 A 100% effective mosquito net maybe ? :sq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 21, 2002 Author #6 Share Posted August 21, 2002 I just hope they don't forget to turn it off when they try to get out of the tank. :sf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 21, 2002 #7 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Outstanding scientific/military discovery. By discovery I mean a new application of existing materials. Good idea crosis, an effective mosquito net would be an excellent application. Force fields are cool 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althalus Posted August 21, 2002 #8 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Imagine the application of the force feild as a bullet proof vest, of other instead of police riot gear, the possibilities are endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted August 22, 2002 #9 Share Posted August 22, 2002 I think the telephone companies should find a way to utilize the forcefield to keep #@%!! telemarketers away :s08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azazel Posted August 25, 2002 #10 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Tommy thanks for the story, very interesting. I was wondering with this highly charged capacitor applied around the vehicle..............would it be as effective during a thunderstorm??????? Would lightning short circuit the capacitor ? :sr :sr :sr I'm sure the inventors have thought out this scenario, but I welcome comments in relation to this. :s9 :s02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test_Bear Posted August 25, 2002 #11 Share Posted August 25, 2002 I don't see too many overly sinister applications to this device. Team this up with space-lasers and NASA psychics and I bet we can finally stop black flies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostboo Posted September 28, 2002 #12 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Electric Armour...Sounds interesting.Could prove useful for a kamikaze fighter.I quote: Base commander:Oh my God!Wuzzat?! Kamakaze fighter pilot:HAHAHAHAHAHA! Commander:NOOOOOOOOOOO! Plane hits,base explodes,plane flies up unharmed. Pilot:DIE OSAMA! Sweeeeet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Posted October 28, 2002 #13 Share Posted October 28, 2002 The link points to an unavailable page. Is the shield like a Tesla Shield? Just wondering. Cheers, Electro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikman Posted October 28, 2002 #14 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Electro, Fixed the link, it should work for you now. Magikman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Posted October 28, 2002 #15 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Ah cheers. The link works fine now. This looks like an interesting development indeed, especially given the details supplied. It would be interesting to know the exact specifics of power consumed in order to vaporise the copper from the warhead. It is stated that, "despite the high charge, the electrical load on the battery is no more than that caused by starting the engine on a cold morning." I would have thought that it would take considerable power to vaporise copper given the following: Latent Heat - The latent heat of a substance is the amount of heat required to change the state of unit mass of a substance from solid to liquid or from liquid to gas/vapor without any change in temperature. When solid changes to liquid, the heat provided is called the latent heat of fusion (this heat will be given out when liquid changes to solid). When liquid changes to gas/vapor then heat provided is called the latent heat of vaporisation (this heat is given out when gas changes to liquid). The quantity of heat required to change the state of m g of a substance having latent heat L is Q= mL. (heat = mass/latent heat of vaporisation) The heat of vaporisation of copper is 300.3 kJ/mol. (Check out http://environmentalchemistry.com for loads of info). The atomic mass of copper is 63.540 g/mol. Therefore the heat energy required in order to vaporise 1g of copper from its liquid state is: Q = 63.540 x 300.3 gives 19,081 kJ In 1Kg we have 1000g, therefore in order to vaporise 1Kg of molten copper we need to use 19,081,062 kJ of energy or 19081062 x 1000 gives 19,081,062,000 Joules of energy required. (19 billion Joules of energy). This approximates to (using an online energy converter at http://cactus2000.virtualave.net/uk/service/massenr.htm) to 5300 kW or 5300000 Watts. Given the equations P = I2R (I squared R) and P = VI P = Power (Watts) I = Current (Amps) R = Resistance (Ohms) V = Voltage (Volts) In order to achieve the remarkably high figure of 5300000 Watts it would be preferable to achieve this by maximising the voltage used in the energy discharge. By minimising the amount of current flow you effectively bypass the ill affects imposed by P = I2R, where resistance impedes power given an increase in current. The supply voltage curve on a starter motor might typically range from (12V..0A - 6V..1500A). This means that a maximum current of 1500A or a maximum voltage of 12V could be supplied by the starter motor alone. The necessary voltage levels to provide the necessary power output could be: Given P = VI 5300000 = VI V = 5300000/I Say that we can use the starter motor top output of 1500A. Then, V = 5300000/1500 gives 3533 Volts. Hoever, given the high current I certainly wouldn't want to touch the interior. Therefore it would be a good idea to raise the voltage as high as posible and minimise the current. Anyhow, it all looks possible using just the energy consumption stipulated (starter motor on a cold morning), but I wonder what the frequency of attack was on the vehicle? I wonder how quicky the system re-charges after an attack. After all there must be a re-charging time for the capacitor. I wonder if part of the specification requires the operator to stand on the tank turret whilst shouting, "please cease fire whilst we re-charge. We should be done in a minute or two! Thanks for your co-operation!" Anyhow, looks interesting. It would be a bit harder to do if the copper wasn't already molten though. To be honest, I don't think it would quite work out either as personal body armour because as well as frying speeding bullets, it would probably fry you first! Anyhow, sorry for all the math, which is probably wrong anyway (you are welcome to check it), but I just wondered if this was one of those flights of fancy or a real invention. Looks like it could be a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosis Posted October 28, 2002 #16 Share Posted October 28, 2002 :s9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikman Posted October 29, 2002 #17 Share Posted October 29, 2002 I think I just blew up my toaster. :s04 :s02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloated Corpse Posted October 29, 2002 #18 Share Posted October 29, 2002 You lost me at 1+1, LOL. Actually I do understand some of what you have said, it would be interesting to see armies battle each other without killing anyone. But, the only problem I can forsee would be the production of more deadlier weapons capable of destruction we know not now. Besides the Hydrogen and atomic bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizarro Posted October 29, 2002 #19 Share Posted October 29, 2002 i could be mistaken, but the same guys who supposedly worked on the infamous 'philadelphia experiment' were also working on this kind of thing in the 40's. this application of it probably has to do with some type of technological advancement that lowered the cost enough to make it practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 29, 2002 #20 Share Posted October 29, 2002 :s2 @ crosis and Magik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Posted October 29, 2002 #21 Share Posted October 29, 2002 A bit overboard probably : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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