The Revelations of an Elite Family Insider

[SoCrazes]

As you all have said, there is no doubt this person is human and, again as others have said, why would "they" (I beleive it is more than one person working here) want to post on a lesser known and lesser quality forum (my opinion). I'm fairly new to this forum stuff and I recognize the high quality of postings on this forum as compared to others of the same domain. I beleive if this was authentic, the "entity" would've selected a more respected forum (again, no insult intended, just my opinion).

My cynical side asserts that the people running the other forum are the only ones that have anything to gain; therefore, they are most likely the ones behind it. If this is the case, it would account for the seemingly rehearsed questions and answers. Also, there were far more specific questions I would've asked (regardless of hindsight being 20/20). Many of the questions asked were repetitive (i.e., asking a known response). The repetitiveness wasn't, I beleive, trying to unveil these people either.

The only other standing to gain from this post would be an anti-christ (based on Jesus being the Christ); which, by the nature of the questions/answers, could be the people running the forum (I'm not accusing or judging anyone here, just making some observations/speculations - no insult intended).

New Agers - the whole gammit - don't have anything to gain from these postings.

I'm not an expert; but, Hinduism seemed to be most prevalent of all the major religions in many of the answers.

However, as many postings reflected here, there is a part of me that finds the responses intriging. Kind of "jiggled my ear."

[+joc]

Very interesting, quite insightful, and close to Truth on most counts. Is his premise true? Does it matter?

[SoCrazes]

In addition to the information sited above, there is one suspicious piece of evidence I would like to add regarding the post. Namely, the person that initiated the post, diinero, became a new member to this forum the same day it was posted. Diinero only has posts, that I can see, that pertain to this thread. Could it be that diinero is subversely trying solicit people "and others" from UM to join the other forum?

[Lotus Flower]

In addition to the information sited above, there is one suspicious piece of evidence I would like to add regarding the post. Namely, the person that initiated the post, diinero, became a new member to this forum the same day it was posted. Diinero only has posts, that I can see, that pertain to this thread. Could it be that diinero is subversely trying solicit people "and others" from UM to join the other forum?

No, from what I can ascertain, Diinero joined this Site and then posted The Insider Thread, he/she has also posted the Insider script on other sites (from what I gather) but speaking for myself, Diinero has never tried to get me to join any other Forum whatsoever. I think they were just impressed with The Insider script and wanted to post in on a few Sites, UM being one of them.

Of course, I can't speak for anybody else, but from my own situation I think they wanted other people's viewpoints on The Insider subject from different sites.

[SoCrazes]

I'm too cynical I guess. Thanks for info.

[+joc]

Perhaps Diinero IS the Insider....

[SoCrazes]

Perhaps Diinero IS the Insider....

And yet, another conspiracy?

[sickpuppy]

what are the ties that bind? ..Bloodline or Belief?

-nether it is un common knowledge

this makes it 'belief' then..

they believe the same thing. this unites them..

if it was a case of 'family members only' then it would be 'bloodline'

[diinero]

external links

PDF links:

http://www.4shared.com/file/26279644/9563f...rified=89af7486

http://rapidshare.com/files/66635518/The_R..._2005_.pdf.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C4A0PPRO

http://www.filefactory.com/file/070abf/

http://www.mediafire.com/?8fmtm9j3rtt

Bittorrent links:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1070209

http://thepiratebay.org/search/The%20revel...mily%20insider/

Edited December 27, 2007 by diinero

[diinero]

Perhaps Diinero IS the Insider....

No I am not Insider. Nor have I ever said that I am Insider.

I just found these revelations too important to not share with my fellow being.

Hence my posting

Edited December 27, 2007 by diinero

[crazyrichie]

Thanks for sharing as this is very interesting information.

May the balance, the insight and untainted will be with you.

Edited December 28, 2007 by crazyrichie

[hohum]

Hello all,

Why do I find this stuff so interesting when it p***es me off so much - oh that's right - because it's hypocritical and I'm a hypocrite. I'm trying to work on that. In engaging in absurd projective identification I'm drawn to this stuff that does that same. Damn that sucks! Anyways, clearly the basic problem here is the hypocrisy of writing, "think for yourself" when directed at another being when that same message includes that they're not contradicting themselves about possessing extreme understanding of the practiced discipline of their primary understanding of existence which is to have everyone think for themselves lest they get trapped permanently in this prison of teacher/student relationships that higher beings hold us in for punishment for messing up in the higher realms.

Edited December 29, 2007 by hohum

[bee]

Hello all,

Why do I find this stuff so interesting when it p***es me off so much - oh that's right - because it's hypocritical and I'm a hypocrite. I'm trying to work on that. In engaging in absurd projective identification I'm drawn to this stuff that does that same. Damn that sucks! Anyways, clearly the basic problem here is the hypocrisy of writing, "think for yourself" when directed at another being when that same message includes that they're not contradicting themselves about possessing extreme understanding of the discipline of their primary understanding of existence which is to have everyone think for themselves lest they get trapped permanently in this prison of teacher/student relationships that higher beings hold us in for punishment for messing up in the higher realms.

Welcome to the forum, hohum....

[hohum]

Welcome to the forum, hohum....

Thank you bee. I'll pretend like I'm being polite to you and that we have a relationship here so I can add more glamor text without looking like I'm too dumb to not notice that posts can't be edited here, and without admitting that I'm not conscientious enough to make complete posts and without tipping my hand that I'm impulsive about cleaning up prior thoughtlessness which considering 2 posts within an hour must certainly be spam. But let's just ignore all that. "...possessing extreme understanding of the [insert] practiced [insert] discipline...". And what about the whole practicing the "us stuff" (my term) in the next realm. Posting is "us stuff". Thus the hypocrisy. It's the same problem that comes up when you call someone arrogant or conceited, you have to be arrogant or conceited to say it. Or how about saying that someone is gossiping outside of being alone with that person to whom you're referring? Sometimes it's simply impossible to make a statement without refuting the purpose for stating the content!

Where'd that edit button come from? Oh well...

Edited December 29, 2007 by hohum

[hohum]

Yeaaah, we'll let some time elapse! Cheers for time! Now stage three. The second post was an example of what p***es me off. It's what Insider and I did. The purpose for posting it is refuted by the content. These aren't contradictions - more along the lines of conceptual illusions. Like a magic trick, unless you know the craft, which like anything learned that's done well, requires some rote memorization (like "conceited"), practice and discipline to observe and parrot back. When these things are used, they're called sophistication algorithms - used to convey personality evidence. People get really p***ed off when you mess with their sophistication algorithms, some of the more popular ones have cartels and are distributed and protected like narcotic substances - heroin etc... They are as addictive as heroin!

The big ones use these three concepts overtly - negative existentials, perfection, infinity - and bind them to content used to describe value to sentient being. They imply each other. If I say "You're conceited" (covert sophistication variable) for example, I'm stating that I am perfect and that my sentience sees infinity (not because it's a value judgment necessarily, rather because conceit has the peculiar property of refuting it's purpose for directing it at any sentient being including ones self), which from the outside looking in seems like something is coming from nothing at all -- whenever someone perceives that something is coming from nothing at all, it binds to the other two concepts, perfection and infinity. It also reminds them that something might become nothing -- themselves! Generally, fear, anger, awe shame and hope are the consequences of using conceptual illusions - by categorizing people's responses to various species of these drugs you can manipulate them - with the unfortunate problem of needing to use these drugs on yourself in order to manipulate other people. You can switch narcotics depending on your desired outcome (though the desired outcome is determined by the narcotic already being used by you - but you can get educated on others narcotics with study) when you know how the other person is binding their negative existentials etc... Something like that.

Edited December 30, 2007 by hohum

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

Yeaaah, we'll let some time elapse! Cheers for time! Now stage three. The second post was an example of what p***es me off. It's what Insider and I did. The purpose for posting it is refuted by the content. These aren't contradictions - more along the lines of conceptual illusions. Like a magic trick, unless you know the craft, which like anything learned that's done well, requires some rote memorization (like "conceited"), practice and discipline to observe and parrot back. When these things are used, they're called sophistication algorithms - used to convey personality evidence. People get really p***ed off when you mess with their sophistication algorithms, some of the more popular ones have cartels and are distributed and protected like narcotic substances - heroin etc... They are as addictive as heroin!

The big ones use these three concepts overtly - negative existentials, perfection, infinity - and bind them to content used to describe value to sentient being. They imply each other. If I say "You're conceited" (covert sophistication variable) for example, I'm stating that I am perfect and that my sentience sees infinity (not because it's a value judgment necessarily, rather because conceit has the peculiar property of refuting it's purpose for directing it at any sentient being including ones self), which from the outside looking in seems like something is coming from nothing at all -- whenever someone perceives that something is coming from nothing at all, it binds to the other two concepts, perfection and infinity. It also reminds them that something might become nothing -- themselves! Generally, fear, anger, awe shame and hope are the consequences of using conceptual illusions - by categorizing people's responses to various species of these drugs you can manipulate them - with the unfortunate problem of needing to use these drugs in order to manipulate people. You can switch narcotics depending on your desired outcome when you know how the other person is binding their negative existentials etc... Something like that.

[Rolci]

Is this topic not worth discussing any more?

[Guest]

I just read the "Insider" script in one long sitting. Facinating. I then read the follow up responses, predicable with some good points.

I could find absolutely nothing objectionable with the content of the script. The agenda is anti-organised anything which is a bold statement of self empowerment and jells very well with what I have come to understand of the nature of the personal relationship to the Divine. I particularly liked his attention to the detail of the use of the word "Divine" over God. To me this is the firmest evidence that he has a very subtle understanding of the traps inherent in religious language. He also showed a great understanding of the tools used to entrap us in fear and hate and the damage we do to ourselves if we allow ourselves to be drawn in.

His text on the responsibility and nature of childhood and parenting rang particularly true.

He was scrupulous in pointing out that even the seemingly bad guys are playing there role in the overall plan. The world is a series of Divine tests and the traps that exist are an absolutely necessary part of the path of revelation. His view point avoided the natural tendency to attribute bad outcomes to external forces. We are the shapers of our own destiny and all we know is created by our illusionary ideas about what others are trying to inflict on us personally.

The main positive thing I took away from it was that if we listen to those who peddle fear, we are feeding the beast that fear creates and it will eat us up in due course. A timely reminder. Unconditional Love is the only thing that can deliver us from suffering

What was the agenda he was peddling - be kind to ourselves and others and stay focused on the goal of reunion. What bad can come of that ?

Br Cornelius

Edited March 13, 2009 by Guest

[Rolci]

Nice post Corny. What I'd like to highlight for some people is the content of one of the questions.

Q:

My full-blood Italian maternal lineage traces back to King Charles I (Charlemange) but by name, Count Dotto Dotti who was the captain of the archers for Prince Phillipe (King Charles IV) and who was part of the coup to secure the ´secret´ from the Merovingians and the Knights Templar. I won´t discuss the secret, which I am sure of, but I don´t understand why you operate in the fashion that you do and I operate in the fashion that I do then as a result. This does not mean that I am of any particular bloodline that is part of the ultimate that you speak of, but my life is far more progressive than anyone that I know scientifically and professionally regardless of the economy (change thereof coming shortly). And I do see the ´illusion´ all around me.

Now, what I found interesting was the point where she was talking about the economy: "change thereof coming shortly". This discussion was going on in September 2005, before which there were no major changes in world economy, and not much reason to believe one would come in the following few years. Not to my knowledge anyway. Kinda convincing they must know something we don't. And to the point, if this all was a scam, what's their gain if we try to live in harmony with nature and try to learn unconditional love. His story seems coherent to me anyway. The way I'd sum it up: every man for himself. Only thing I don't understand though: if in the very end we all will be free, what does it matter when, after how many lifetimes. Outside the confines of the physical universe, the concept of time has no meaning, has it? And if we're freeing ourselves on by one, then why is there more and more people on earth? I'd also like to know if lucid dreaming and astral travelling are tools to help us or part of the distracting outside world. They are not exactly outside, are they? How do I know what is really inside and what is real?

[Guest]

Nice post Corny. What I'd like to highlight for some people is the content of one of the questions.

Q:

My full-blood Italian maternal lineage traces back to King Charles I (Charlemange) but by name, Count Dotto Dotti who was the captain of the archers for Prince Phillipe (King Charles IV) and who was part of the coup to secure the ´secret´ from the Merovingians and the Knights Templar. I won´t discuss the secret, which I am sure of, but I don´t understand why you operate in the fashion that you do and I operate in the fashion that I do then as a result. This does not mean that I am of any particular bloodline that is part of the ultimate that you speak of, but my life is far more progressive than anyone that I know scientifically and professionally regardless of the economy (change thereof coming shortly). And I do see the ´illusion´ all around me.

Now, what I found interesting was the point where she was talking about the economy: "change thereof coming shortly". This discussion was going on in September 2005, before which there were no major changes in world economy, and not much reason to believe one would come in the following few years. Not to my knowledge anyway. Kinda convincing they must know something we don't. And to the point, if this all was a scam, what's their gain if we try to live in harmony with nature and try to learn unconditional love. His story seems coherent to me anyway. The way I'd sum it up: every man for himself. Only thing I don't understand though: if in the very end we all will be free, what does it matter when, after how many lifetimes. Outside the confines of the physical universe, the concept of time has no meaning, has it? And if we're freeing ourselves on by one, then why is there more and more people on earth? I'd also like to know if lucid dreaming and astral travelling are tools to help us or part of the distracting outside world. They are not exactly outside, are they? How do I know what is really inside and what is real?

Good point about the economic prediction, more supporting evidence.

I think the point that you make about the irrelevance of time to the outcome is slightly missing the point. If we are all part of the whole, and the only way back to the Divine is through unconditional love, any resistance to that objective hurts the whole and causes suffering to everything. Compassion dictates that those in the know would care and suffer as a consequence of our unwillingness to face up to our responsibility as humans. The outcome may be assured but the path can go many ways, and there are those out there who would seek to guide us on the easiest path.

Things like Astral Projection, and such, are only relevant in as much as they bring us a deeper understanding of ourselves and the relationship we have to others. If we use these gifts for selfish and misguided ends, then we will cause suffering to others and this will inevitably rebound on ourselves and take us further away from our goal of unconditional love and reunion. All tools are neutral - its what we do with them that matters.

Br Cornelius

[beale947]

All I got from that load of maggot infested monkey crap was

[jedi handwave]"These are not the droids you are looking for...move along"[/jedi handwave]. HE answered nothing, which is to be excepted from a mental patient who has clearly stopped taking there medication...

Maybe I should start writing my posts like a cylon hybrid and maybe I'll get my on fan club following me who says i'm a psychic/prophet and tells everyone to "Repent...the end is near!"

Why do people believe in this rubbish? Any sane, normal person would...oh wait, I just answered my question...

Edited March 17, 2009 by beale947

[Rock Slinger]

As much as I agree with much of the philosophy Insider prophesses, I would think he is most likely a hoax. I found it interesting that a question came up asking Insider about his relation or oppinion of the book "Conversations With God" because what he said did have a lot of similiarities to it and at that same point I thought the same thing.

Years ago, when a friend of mine had lost her sister to cancer and she had lost all hope and faith and was really a mess I brought her a copy of that book. She rejected it, pushed it away and stated that there is no God.. and then asked me how can there be a God that would allow this type of thing to happen. I knew the book had specific answers to that very question because I had read it but did not remember where in the book it was. So I flipped open the book randomly with that question in mind and walah, wouldn't you know it opened to the exact page i was looking for (cue eery music).

This was the part where it explains that as the soul experiences pain, misery, and death it becomes more ready for enlightenment. Where if enlightenment were just granted it would not be understood and appreciated like it is from an experienced soul... or something to that effect. I read it over 15 years ago so I may have explained that off a bit... but Insider had said something to the same effect.

Now "Conversations" itself could be considered a hoax but it changed my thinking and am greatful that I read it. The author claims the answers to his posed questions in the book basically wrote themselves with his hand being directed from God himself.

[WiseguY]

That whole thing reminded me of the Matrix.

If we are to take control of ourselves and be enlightened, how? According to him everything we know here is a manipulation or falsehood fed to us by Divine Law. Even he is controled by the Law. He is like a robot, doing his job and not asking questions. How can we discover ourselves and take control if we are all under Divine Law? It's impossible to be free under a Law. Like the Matrix even if we learn about the Matrix and free ourselves and become enlightened. That is still a falsehood. In the movie they thought they discovered freedom but that discovery was fake. The knowledge outside the Matrix was controlled and manipulated as well.

I prefer the "Ignorance is bliss approach."

I'll live my life and the Divine Law can continue to feed me a false reality, it doesn't matter whether I discover any kind of truth or not, the Law is still in control.

This was my favorite part:

Q:

well I´d have to say your divine law has ****ed up this planet and its people very well!

A:

Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.

Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my condolences.

Thats classic. That comment angered the insider and he gave the guy an extra lifetime here. Where did he get the power to do that? Isn't the Divine Law in charge? That was a very human response IMO.

Edited March 19, 2009 by WiseguY

[Guest]

I don't think he was handing out extra reincarnations. Simply pointing out that ignorance has consequences and the consequence of that particularly ignorant statement was a bit longer working through their ignorance. If we hold onto what we have, despite it causing us harm - we suffer. O sad what a shame.

Br Cornelius

[WiseguY]

I don't think he was handing out extra reincarnations. Simply pointing out that ignorance has consequences and the consequence of that particularly ignorant statement was a bit longer working through their ignorance. If we hold onto what we have, despite it causing us harm - we suffer. O sad what a shame.

Br Cornelius

So if that was just a metaphor, were any of his other answers as well?

This can easily become a philosophical debate, we are all at different stages of enlightened evolution. It's a matter of perspective. What may be true for you is not neccessarliy true for me. Yet not believing something is true doesn't change the fact that it is. Do we take the clues he gives us and try to decipher our current reality like a code? He really gave us nothing, except that what I know up till now is false and controlled. I'm basically starting from scratch then, knowing that everything I think is true up to now, everything I've learned growing up. The knowledge I have now is a reality fed to me by these elites which is fed to them by the Divine Law. Who's to say the elites in control of us aren't being fed a false reality as well. It's one giant mind-****. For what purpose? What is the motivation behind such deliberate lies? A fun little experiment, as if we were mice running a maze.

This all echos the same questions people have about God from the bible. He is the creator, the source of everything but why did he create us. what is our purpose? To discover him? aha I think I agree with that. Our purpose here is to discover the one "truth" within a reality if lies.