The Revelations of an Elite Family Insider

[crtDzyn]

Phew... I just spent a while reading through all of that, but I feel it was worth it. A very interesting thread at the very least.

It's obviously not something that makes me drop everything I know and start pursuing what is described... but it certainly made me wonder...

Simply the very nature of the question and answer sessions added credibility to it. The fact that his statements didn't contradict themselves throughout it...

Specifically I found the part he mentioned about a child being born to be very interesting:

Q:

What advice do you have for raising a child on earth?

A:

I have no children nor will I have one.

The first thing a baby does when born is cry.

It does so because the Soul is conscious of what it has been born into and is in a state of disbelief

(you are more conscious of what you are and where you are during/right after birth than you are

now).

The Soul makes the body cry because it is the first time it came to this physical realm (although

this is a very limited number) or because it realises it has returned through reincarnation, after

failing in the former life (which is a vast majority).

The Soul itself is not the one crying (it is unfamiliar with these functions in it´s original state) yet

the impulses it gives makes the body cry.

It cries "without a reason" for days, weeks, months, untill the consciousness has lost it´s power,

be it through natural processes or the influence of parents and these days even medication...

That is when the human is truly born, after they forget who they are, where they are, some forget

faster than others.

That's just an except from that section, but it's an interesting concept to consider.

I am glad I stumbled upon this thread... very thought provoking indeed.

Edited October 25, 2007 by crtbud

[Timon]

I read the whole thing and I can say this, this is total BS. Like most already noticed, it mostly new age mixed with a little Scientology, pretty much a load of BS.

First of all he seems to be having a flamewar with himself, this tactic happens alot on the internet, he answered the questions quickly because he knew what the questions were gonna be, at least for a number of them. To add to this the number of new posters surrounding this whole thread and his original is staggering, this is just more of the flaming that is perpetuated from this whole scheme. If you are new to this concept of flamewarring with yourself, if you have the time to waste read this, ( http://www.wirm.net/nightfreeze/part1.html ) off topic I know, but it gives you the idea of the kind of scheme I'm talking about here.

And come on, he really jumped the shark with the whole babies crying when they are born thing because the reincarnated soul realized where it is and is suffering. Really? Babies cry when they are born so the can breathe, not because of their past life, plus if what he says was true wouldn't mean that a soul is born when the baby exits the womens womb, tell that to a mother to be. I'm not getting religious here, a baby is alive and aware of it surroundings well before it exits the womb. Wouldn't that reincarnated soul have known where it was even in the womb and if it did why cry about it only after you exit the womb.

But oh no, I'm hurting myself in the long run by saying this I may have to stay in this realm a little longer, hopefully I can leave this realm and then fight the best fighters from all the other realms in the tournament known as MORTAL COMBAT. All this taking place in fantasy land of course. Can you pickup the sarcasm I'm laying it down pretty thick right there.

Oh and not a huge deal but he couldn't spell the word MALICE a number a times and then says its because english isn't his first languauge, forth or fifith I beleive he said, and thats why he didn't know the correct spelling. I guess the knowlegde wasn't passed down to him that the word malice is spelled the same way in english as it is in portuguese, french, dutch and spanish etc. But really its just spelling not a smoking gun, but I mean really, a 10 year old won't mispell the word malice.

[Timon]

Also if you believe what this guy is saying it contradicts exactly what he is telling you to do. I shouldn't have to explain why if you read it.

[Stixxman]

plus I find it hard to believe he doesn't know about the spellcheck function, i mean its in the 'advanced' menu control and he is 'advanced' right?

[momentarylapseofreason]

didnt want to get involved here, i usually just read around on this forum, but i had to register to mention a few things, pardon for it being long but i studied this text and would like to say this.

like the guys who say this is new age. wrong, this insider thing is ancient wisdom. the new age movement is a fairly young movement who BORROWED from that ancient wisdom and did their own oprah thing with it. so when you hear those things mentioned, you mistake it for new age while it is ancient knowledge. many things mentioned in insider text are hermetic, platonic, pythagorean, ancient egyptian, zoroastrian and babylonian, who in turn all borrowed from each other and we dont know what the real source is...maybe insider did?

Hi apocas,

I don't know where your'e from but alot of us know New Age is derived from ancient wisdom. (in Europe anyways)

It's just called new because many were/are unfamiliar with this ancient knowledge. The concept seemed new in a new era.

His ideas have adopted many elements of far eastern philosophical belief systems.

It's a salad really, all tossed up with many dressings for flavour- to suit personal tastes. Contrieved to appeal to a wide audience.

Edited October 25, 2007 by momentarylapseofreason

[chaosdarksoulz]

Er...to the new guy, man! People just read that long bull crap posted by the insider and then you post another!

EVERYONE, IT IS FROM THE ANTI-CHRISTS BLOODLINE, ABSURD? READ AGAIN THEN AND IT ALL MAKES SENSE! REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID THAT JESUS (PBUH) WAS NOT CHRIST AND THE REAL CHRIST CAME BEFORE IN A DIFFERENT ERA AND THAT HIS NAME WAS RARELY MENTIONED IN HISTORY! THATS WHY HES AGAINST RELIGION! HES OF THE DIVINE ONES (ANOTHER NAME FOR ANTI-CHRIST) BLOODLINE

THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE!

'I DID RESEARCH' MY AS*!!!

[bee]

Er...to the new guy, man! People just read that long bull crap posted by the insider and then you post another!

EVERYONE, IT IS FROM THE ANTI-CHRISTS BLOODLINE, ABSURD? READ AGAIN THEN AND IT ALL MAKES SENSE! REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID THAT JESUS (PBUH) WAS NOT CHRIST AND THE REAL CHRIST CAME BEFORE IN A DIFFERENT ERA AND THAT HIS NAME WAS RARELY MENTIONED IN HISTORY! THATS WHY HES AGAINST RELIGION! HES OF THE DIVINE ONES (ANOTHER NAME FOR ANTI-CHRIST) BLOODLINE

THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE!

'I DID RESEARCH' MY AS*!!!

Blimey!....who rattled your cage?

No need to be so rude and unfriendly to a new member......go stand in the corner......NOW!!!

[Stixxman]

if i could also be sent to the corner so i won't be subjected to any more of this nonsense, that would be great thanks.

[bee]

if i could also be sent to the corner so i won't be subjected to any more of this nonsense, that would be great thanks.

Oh no you don't....no corner for you...go back to the opening post and read it all again...NOW!!....

[Unlimited]

Oh no you don't....no corner for you...go back to the opening post and read it all again...NOW!!....

please not that..he hasnt been that bad...

[The Silver Thong]

Oh no you don't....no corner for you...go back to the opening post and read it all again...NOW!!....

Ha ha Stixmann got in trouble

[Stixxman]

I already read it once, couldn't you just drag me behind a team of horses on the Nevada salt flats for a few hours instead? No really after that we'd be EVEN.

[bee]

I already read it once, couldn't you just drag me behind a team of horses on the Nevada salt flats for a few hours instead?

O.K.....I'm nothing if not fair......(I'm getting the horses ready!!!)

[Trophydan]

I just finished reading this hot mess of a post. It was inane, asinine, and at times laughable. It is hard to imagine this 'Insider' as a ruling elite, when his answers are in below 5th grade level english. Come on web-tards... how many times have anonymous posters claimed they were this or that and have offered to prove it by answering questions? Why would anyone is the 'position' this pseudointellectual claims to be in even bother to post that crap? OH NO!! Did I just punish myself with another lifetime on this earth by disagreeing with 'insider'/'god'? Is that even a 'punishment'? Seems to me that I'd enjoy that, rather than the vacuum of nonexistence. Insider claims that there are only two groups of people, the elites and their slaves... Well what about the people who fall outside those generalized ranking terms? It seems that isn't even considered (you know... that insidious area of gray, that Insider so tacitly represses), which leads me to conclude that the only thing Insider knows that I don't, is how to rhapsodize to the public using arrogant psychobabble.

[Lizardian_guy]

Elites...

Pah.

If an Insider did exist, it wouldn't post on some random internet forum to distribute info.

[Stixxman]

or he read 1984 one too many times and took it to heart. And I resent being called a web-****, its either Mr. web-**** or else the more politically correct web-mentally defiecient.......thank you very much. And your sentence read 'why would anyone is the 'position' this pseudointellectual claims"

when it should have read "why anyone would, in this position, who claims to be a pseudointellectual, bother to post this crap?" the other way confused me for about ten minutes till I really understood what you were saying.

[apocas]

hmmm, i dont understand why most suddenly started being insulting and aggressive. why attack people personally for having a different opinion? none of the guys who were aggressively against the text have raised 1 reasonable point to debunk anything, just general cop out stuff, which again is based on ignorance.

i remember a talk i had with a hindu, nice long talk where i learned a few things from his religion. but then i started talking about my beliefs and suddenly that person started shaking his head, saying no that is not right, etc, while i didnt even finish sentences. then he started to find 'faults' in what i said and how his view was better. .. thats exactly what is happening here now 'he spelled that word wrong so he must be 5 years old...why would he post on teh internetz, only we the common people have internetz....he said jesus aint christ so he is the devil's son who sucks babies blood for breakfast...blablabla'. are those your only rebuttals? weak.

the fact so many actually got offended by his ancient wisdom views because it contradicted their own dogmatic ways, and the fact people got very aggressive about it, trying to attack the persona, rather than talking about main points, ridiculing it in very childish ways after skimping through it just once, instead of looking at the knowledge shared as adults and discussing it after giving it some time to study in depth, show to me who is probably right and who is probably wrong.

i guess new comers here are expected to **** and bow down to longtime posters with an amazing avatar and signature to boot. and then they badmouth glp which i admit is a lame forum, but they do the same there too. ill pass, otherwise a nice forum bee, byebye

Edited October 25, 2007 by apocas

[diinero]

hmmm, i dont understand why most suddenly started being insulting and aggressive. why attack people personally for having a different opinion? none of the guys who were aggressively against the text have raised 1 reasonable point to debunk anything, just general cop out stuff, which again is based on ignorance.

i remember a talk i had with a hindu, nice long talk where i learned a few things from his religion. but then i started talking about my beliefs and suddenly that person started shaking his head, saying no that is not right, etc, while i didnt even finish sentences. then he started to find 'faults' in what i said and how his view was better. .. thats exactly what is happening here now 'he spelled that word wrong so he must be 5 years old...why would he post on teh internetz, only we the common people have internetz....he said jesus aint christ so he is the devil's son who sucks babies blood for breakfast...blablabla'. are those your only rebuttals? weak.

the fact so many actually got offended by his ancient wisdom views because it contradicted their own dogmatic ways, and the fact people got very aggressive about it, trying to attack the persona, rather than talking about main points, ridiculing it in very childish ways after skimping through it just once, instead of looking at the knowledge shared as adults and discussing it after giving it some time to study in depth, show to me who is probably right and who is probably wrong.

i guess new comers here are expected to **** and bow down to longtime posters with an amazing avatar and signature to boot. and then they badmouth glp which i admit is a lame forum, but they do the same there too. ill pass, otherwise a nice forum bee, byebye

hi apocas

Don't worry about all the slander that's here. This happens every time I share this.

It would actually surprise me if it didn't get attacked in a childish fashion.

Your comment's are very much appreciated by me.

Thanks

btw. People don't forget to download the pdf. It's easier to read.

The_Revelations_of_an_Elite_Family_Insider__2005_.pdf

[lozadrial]

2 points - 1. Apocas, FYI you're argument that this rubbish is legit is MUCH weaker. Instead of us having to disprove it, perhaps you should be trying to prove it.

Don't worry about all the slander that's here. This happens every time I share this.

And 2: Diinero - What do you mean by this? Have you posted this stuff all over the net?

[chaosdarksoulz]

ha, ha, ha... Oh my God! I cant stop laughing! those were some funny posts man! oh, anyway, does'nt the new guy sound a little like an 'elite'? ha ha, sorry, i mean, i would'nt be suprised if he's the insider, and dino! you said this happened in 2OO5, so why post this now? come to think of it maybe you and newboy are behind this???

[lozadrial]

Water eventually goes to the lowest place to feed those who are in need of it.

Also...this, from diinero, sounds just like the insider. Who talks like this??

[Timon]

hmmm, i dont understand why most suddenly started being insulting and aggressive. why attack people personally for having a different opinion? none of the guys who were aggressively against the text have raised 1 reasonable point to debunk anything, just general cop out stuff, which again is based on ignorance.

i remember a talk i had with a hindu, nice long talk where i learned a few things from his religion. but then i started talking about my beliefs and suddenly that person started shaking his head, saying no that is not right, etc, while i didnt even finish sentences. then he started to find 'faults' in what i said and how his view was better. .. thats exactly what is happening here now 'he spelled that word wrong so he must be 5 years old...why would he post on teh internetz, only we the common people have internetz....he said jesus aint christ so he is the devil's son who sucks babies blood for breakfast...blablabla'. are those your only rebuttals? weak.

the fact so many actually got offended by his ancient wisdom views because it contradicted their own dogmatic ways, and the fact people got very aggressive about it, trying to attack the persona, rather than talking about main points, ridiculing it in very childish ways after skimping through it just once, instead of looking at the knowledge shared as adults and discussing it after giving it some time to study in depth, show to me who is probably right and who is probably wrong.

i guess new comers here are expected to **** and bow down to longtime posters with an amazing avatar and signature to boot. and then they badmouth glp which i admit is a lame forum, but they do the same there too. ill pass, otherwise a nice forum bee, byebye

Well...

The misspelled word thing is weak I'll give you that, but it was mentioned in the text so I didn't think mentioning it would set you off like that. But frankly, I made another mention in regards to his stated claims about reincarnation and you didn't really say anything about that. You can't just focus on some of the things people say and call them all childish without mentioning things that logically apply and need considering. Its wrong in a debate to get all bent out of shape when people try and question what is being claimed. Talk about the context too, I mean he made some big claims there, that didn't carry with it alot of evidence. You know what else makes alot of big claims without evidence, religion. And thats exaclty what this "insider's" posts are about, you need to have faith in a belief for what he says to be true. Don't expect random people from a diverse forum group too just turn off the left and right sides of their brains to just let some "completely random asexual internet etard" (cause thats what he is to most people, don't get bent, this is real life) make far-reaching claims without even a bit of evidence without questioning even the slightest misnomer in his claims. This is the internet, people can say whatever they want, but we don't have to believe them. Diinero has been spreading this "Insider Revelations" all over sites like this, go for it share it up, spread "Insider's" version of truth all over the net. But, you gotta have some tougher skin for the skeptics, remember this is the internet.

[Timon]

And 2: Diinero - What do you mean by this? Have you posted this stuff all over the net?

He has, many other sites have had similair posts like this with diinero as the username. Deosn't matter though, he can post this all over the world if he wants too, but people dont have to believe it. I mean what are we supposed to do, call these posts the a bible and start living like he is telling us too, NO sex / action movies / birthday parties / ponies /hamburgers and all the other millions of things he is saying we can't do if we wanna leave this prison realm. I mean come on. Seriuosly, he said no sex, what the hell is that, are the social elite all born in test tubes, that must be nice.

[Moon Monkey]

Anyone know who this "real christ rarely mentioned in history" is supposed to be ?

[Lotus Flower]

to answer diinero-

The show was on when i was a teen during the phil donahue era, the woman wore her hair cut short, and mens clothes because her "guide" prefered her to dress that way when she channeled him. when she actually channeled him, she swooned around and appeared to be in great pain, then when her "guide" was fully present she hopped up on the couch with her legs crossed. i don't remember which show it was, there was only a couple talk shows at the time, and may even have been phil donahue. I am sure i am not the only person here who seen it.

for the rest- there are these places called book stores, they have books which are pieces of paper with words printed on them, much easier to carry around than a computer screen. you get to buy the books, take them with you where ever you want, and even make notes in them if you like. there are also places called libraries, with books you can borrow for a set period of time, then you have to return them, and you have to make notes on seperate pieces of paper, 'cause you are not allowed to write in the books.

i suggest you go visit some. check the religion sections.

and yes if you knew anything about new age teachings and channeled information, you would know that it is new age teaching.

He did say that he was against any such teaching, any secret socieities including all the new age stuff....

People keep going on about "oh it's New Age crap" - well if you feel as if you are threatened and have to believe in it, you haven't read the script at all, because that is not what he is saying at all.

It boils down to thinking for yourself and believing what you wish - however, believing what you wish, I don't think, includes debunking everything else.

I also do not consider that the script was a channelled one.