The Revelations of an Elite Family Insider

[BELOWIM]

Word's, Wyrd's, people have so much to say and yet Will not understand themselve's, I and most if not all have been guilty of this.. tis a message just like the One below!...Truth is All that really matter's.

[Lotus Flower]

Word's, Wyrd's, people have so much to say and yet Will not understand themselve's, I and most if not all have been guilty of this.. tis a message just like the One below!...Truth is All that really matter's.

I bet you like puns don't you

[chaosdarksoulz]

lotus, you made me laugh with that last comment, ha ha... you should become a stand up comedian and tell people what you just told me, im sure they'd see that as a joke, probably you too, anyway if you believe/support the insiders views so much then maybe you should join him... ah, you probably already have...

[Lotus Flower]

lotus, you made me laugh with that last comment, ha ha... you should become a stand up comedian and tell people what you just told me, im sure they'd see that as a joke, probably you too, anyway if you believe/support the insiders views so much then maybe you should join him... ah, you probably already have...

Jaks I really don't know what you are on about now, you have gone off on a tangent so much.

Join who? The Insider? I don't even know who The Insider is.

What I believe and what you believe are two totally different things, we must agree to disagree before you lose your head to your rantings and I lose my head to my bottle of wine - well to be honest you are driving me up the wall

YOU tell people what I said if it makes you happy, personally, if they want to know what I said, I don't have to repeat it as it is there on the screen. If they see it as a joke at least I will have made them laugh and I will know they have a sense of humour

Now, I am logging off as I am going out later, tea to cook, getting ready, having a shower, you know all the normal things stand up comics do

[momentarylapseofreason]

Strange that he is from Portugal because I kept thinking of the mediterranean sea while I was reading his posts

I kind of suspect he lost his mind now that I know more about him or he isn't really a christian anymore according to his posts . This explains his spelling errors.(being portugiese )

Why would a man of such standing go an a crappy forum like GLP ?

Mariano Artigas

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Mariano Artigas (1938-2006) is a physicist, philosopher and writer. He received the Templeton Foundation Award in 1995 for his work on science and religion. He wrote The Mind of the Universe: Understanding Science and Religion and fifteen other books on science and religion.

He was a member of the European Association for the Study of Science and Theology, the Académie Internationale de Philosophie des Sciences, and the Académie Internationale de Philosophie des Sciences. He was Consultor of the Pontifical Council for the Dialogue with Non-believers.

In 2002, jointly with other professors, he created Science, Reason and Faith Reseach Group (CRYF), based in the University of Navarra where he taught. The aim of the Group is to promote interdisciplinary study of issues where science, philosophy and theology intertwine.[1]

He holds Ph.D.'s in both physics and in philosophy.

He was ordained a priest on 9 August 1964, and incardinated to the Opus Dei prelature. He was the Dean of the Ecclesiastical Faculty of Philosophy for the University of Navarre from 1988 to 1998.

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Professor Artigas had more than 150 articles published based on the relationship of science, philosophy, and theology.

His book The Mind of the Universe, Understanding Science and Religion received good reviews, among which is that of Contemporary Physics: Artigas "has raised the level of the contemporary debate on the relations between science and religion and provided a sure guide to their complexities. He seems to have read almost every book on the subject, and gives judicious and sympathetic accounts even of views he does not share. As a scientist himself, he does full justice to the value of science and to the subtleties of the scientific method."

His other well-known works in English are:

* Oracles of Science: Celebrity Scientists versus God and Religion - with Karl Giberson And Mariano Artigas (Dec 28, 2006)

* Galileo Observed: Science and the Politics of Belief - with William R. Shea (Oct 6, 2006)

* Knowing Things for Sure: Science and Truth - with Alan McCone (Jul 28, 2006)

* Negotiating Darwin: The Vatican Confronts Evolution, 1877--1902 (Medicine, Science, and Religion in Historical Context) by Mariano Artigas, Thomas F. Glick, and Rafael A. Martínez (Aug 17, 2006)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariano_Artigas

Here is an interesting interview with him:

http://www.metanexus.net/Magazine/Default....09&SkinSrc=[G]Skins/_default/

Edited October 27, 2007 by momentarylapseofreason

[momentarylapseofreason]

I'm sad to say that Mr. Artigas has passed

I wonder if he knew he was dying while posting as Insider ?

Mariano Artigas (1938-2006). In memoriam.

José Angel García Cuadrado

Dr. Mariano Artigas died on the 23rd of December in Pamplona,Spain at the age of 68 after an extended illness. Over the course of his life he published more than twenty books and fifty articles in specialized journals with international scope. It would not be an exaggeration to say that he died at the height of his intellectual life that promised even greater depth and breadth of research in the field of epistemology and philosophyof science.

Born in Zaragoza on the 15th of December 1938, he later moved to Barcelona to begin undergraduate studies in physics. Just graduated, he left for Rome to begin ecclesiastical studies and was ordained a priest in 1964 having received, a year earlier, a doctorate in philosophy from the Lateran University. He returned to Barcelona where he carried out with devotion, extensive pastoral activity with university students. During that time he also furthered his studies in the University of Barcelona where he obtained in 1968 a doctorate in physics and, in 1979, a doctorate in philosophy. From 1968 to 1972, he lectured in the same university on epistemology and philosophy of science which inspired the book he later published entitled El desafío de la racionalidad. Also during this time he wrote numerous articles, the majority of which were commentary and analysis of books that had captured the interest of the general public.

Professor Artigas was a tireless reader who always remained abreast of the important publications that dealt with the relationship between science and religion. Over the course of his academic career, he never lost his preoccupation with making the main issues regarding the relationship between science and religion accessible, using his talent for blending scientific rigor with a clear and straightforward style of writing. Along this line, he published a critical study of Karl Popper’s epistemology entitled La búsqueda sin término (EMESA 1979), a brief introduction to philosophy, Introducción a Filosofía (Eunsa 1984, 4th printing 1995), a textbook, Filosofía de la Naturaleza, (Eunsa 1984; 5th edition 2003) co-authored with Juan JoséSanguineti and which was later translated to Italian. During that time he also published one of his better known books, Las fronteras del evolucionismo, which has a prologue by Sir John Eccles and contains an interview with this Nobel prize for medicine recipient. The book, which was quickly translated to Portuguese and Italian, puts forth, in a serious and clear manner, the achievements of the studies on evolution while he points out the inability of such approaches to offer an explanation for the specific spirituality of human beings. According to Professor Artigas, the scientific theory of evolution belongs to a realm of knowledge that is distinct from that of the doctrine of creation and the apparent incompatibility between evolution and creation is the result of a failure to frame these approaches epistemologically. For this reason, Artigas suggests speaking of “evolutionary creationism” or a “creationist evolution”. This more respectful position towards both science and faith could help move beyond the often polemic debate that exists. Another well received book from this period is Ciencia, razon y fe (Palabra 1984; 6th edition, Eunsa 2000) with a prologue by Evandro Agazzi.

In 1987 he moved to the University of Navarra where he was named ordinary Professor of philosophy of nature and philosophy of science. With the move,Professor Artigas began the last and most fruitful period of his academic research. The following year he established the Ecclesiastical Faculty of Philosophy and was named its dean.

During these years of university lecturing, he produced other works for widespread publication: El hombre a la luz de la ciencia (Palabra 1992, which contains a prologue by Msgr. Alvaro del Portillo, then Grand Chancellor of the University of Navarra, and a dialogue with him on the topic of “Science and Conscience”. That same year, his book Ciencia y fe: nuevas perspectivas (Eunsa 1992) was published. As by-products of his lecturing came the textbook Filosofía de la ciencia (Eunsa 1999) and Filosofía de la ciencia experimental (Eunsa 1989, 3rd edition 1999) which has been recently translated to English under the title of Knowing Things for Sure, Science and Truth (The University of America Press 2006). His studies in philosophy of nature produced two important books: La inteligibilidad de la naturaleza (Eunsa 1992) and La mente del universo (Eunsa 1992; 2nd edition 1995), also published in English, The Mind of the Universe, Understanding Science and Religion (Templeton Foundation Press, 2000). He also published various monographic studies on epistemology and contemporary philosophy of science such as El desafío de la racionalidad in which investigates, in a respectful yet critical manner, the main authors in this field from the second half of the twentieth century; Logica y ética en Karl Popper which includes some previously unpublished comments by Popper on Bartley and critical rationalism (also in English, The Ethical Nature of Karl Popper´s Theory of Knowledge, Peter Lang, 1999). One of the prime characteristics of Professor Artigas’ philosophical proposal is respect for scientific research; he always maintained that its achievements and conquests cannot be undervalued. However, if scientific investigation presents itself as the only model for epistemology and the ultimate criteria of truth, it ends upself-destructing. If science forgets its realist philosophical foundations (i.e. the existence of an extra-mental truth and the human capacity to know it) then it is destined to become an instrument at the service of unspeakable interests.

In his last years, Artigas focussed especially on questions related to the history of science and placed his study on the horizon of the dialogue between science and faith. With the rigor and precision of a true historian (that led him as far as the Vatican Archives to discover yet unpublished documents) he delved into the Galileo affair and the Church’s position on Darwin. This research produced the books Galileo en Roma, Crónica de 500 dias, that he co-authored with William Shea and which was simultaneously published in English as Galileo in Rome, The Rise and Fall of a Troublesome Genius (Oxford University Press, 2003), Negotiating Darwin, The Vatican confronts evolution, 1877-1902 (The Johns Hopkins UniversityPress, 2005) co-authored with Thomas Glick and Rafael Martinez and translated to Japanese amongst other languages; Galileo Observed, Science and the Politics of Belief (Science History Publications), co-authored by William Shea. His last book published to date is a critical analysis of the thought of six contemporary authors: Oracles of Science: Celebrity Scientists versus God and Religion (Oxford University Press, 2006) co-authored by Karl Giberson.

He published various articles as a collaborator for the journal Anuario filosófico. Two of these articles are his ample notes on international symposiums that he attended; on the mind-body problem in AF XIII/2 (1980)145-156, and another on scientific truth, in AF XV/1 (1982) 199-210. He later published an interesting article in debate with Karl Popper titled “Conocimiento humano, fiabilidad y falibilismo” ***/2 (1992) 277-294; and regarding the same author “Lógica y ética en K.R. Popper” ***IV/1 (2001)101-108. Along the same lines, he wrote “El diálogo ciencia-filosofía en la encíclica Fides et Ratio” ***II/3 (1999) 611-640. His main works have also been reviewed in this journal.

Professor Artigas received recognition from numerous international philosophical associations. He was named a member of the European Association for the Study of Science and Theology; correspondent member of the Académie Internationale de Philosophie des Sciences; Member of the project committee “Science & Human Values”, subsidized by the European Science Foundation. In 1995 he received a Templeton Foundation prize for his work in the area of science and religion. He was also named ordinary member of the Pontifical Academy of St. Thomas (Vatican) and consultant to Pontifical Council for Dialogue with Non-Believers. Recently he was named member of International Society for Science & Religion, an association that has its central office in the Faculty of Divinity at the University of Cambridge, UK. Professor Artigas was also an honorary professor of Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos (Lima, Peru), and visiting professor at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross (Rome) and of the University of Barcelona. In addition he lectured at all of the following universities: Universidad de la Sabana (Colombia), Universidad de Piura (Lima), Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos (Lima, Peru), Universidad de los Andes (Santiago, Chile), Universidad Panamericana (Mexico), Faculty of Theology of Lugano (Switzerland), and Redemptoris Mater Seminary (Holand).

In 2002, together with a team of professors and researchers, he established the research group Ciencia, Razón y Fe (CRYF) that has its center of activity in the University of Navarra and which aims at promoting interdisciplinary study of questions that are found at the crossroads of science, philosophy and theology.

With the passing of Professor Mariano Artigas, Spain’s university community has lost one of its members of greater international profile and impact. Undoubtedly, his rich scholarship will continue produce fruit through those who, by his teaching and publications, are the beneficiaries of this legacy that is imbued with respect and love for the truth.

http://www.unav.es/cryf/english/martigas.html

[bee]

I'm sad to say that Mr. Artigas has passed

I wonder if he knew he was dying while posting as Insider ?

Mariano Artigas (1938-2006).

Thanks for that info....maybe he did know he was dying while posting as Insider...

In the OP here.....he said....

Do not join "secret societies", never, whatever the circumstances are.

Also no religions, including the new age, do not accept human gurus/prophets/priests/rabbis/imams/popes/fortunetellers/"mediums"/dalai lamas/politicians/authors/scientists/"celebrities"/parents/etc. as legitimate authority on Divine matters....on other matters it is your choice to accept or decline, however accept the consequence.

You only need yourself and the Divine, no intervention by others in bodies....again, no intervention by anybody.

In the link that you kindly provided at the bottom of the last page....the Global Spiral one...

he said this....part of the interview....

Reading the Mind of the Universe: An Interview with Mariano Artigas

By Mariano Artigas

Q: They say God moves in mysterious ways. How has God moved in your life?

A: That's the first time I've been asked in such a specific, direct way.

Q: I think it's important, though, to have the sense of the inner life of a priest.

A: Well, I think that God often comes through other people. In 1961 I was studying, and I met a founder of my order, who later died in 1975. I can say he was a kind of saint. He was a man very close to God, very spontaneous and yet familiar. Many people who knew him agreed that after five minutes of being with him you could feel how close he was to God, how morally good he was. For me it was a very great help to know him. He has already been proclaimed blessed, in 1992, and he will probably be proclaimed a saint this year. In order to become a saint, at least one miracle has to be proved, and he has had that. He prayed for a man who had incurable cancer and the man was completely cured and is still alive.

In my case, the Catholic doctrine is very coherent and gives deep meaning to my life. It helps me to understand the world. G.K. Chesterton wrote somewhere that you cannot look directly at the sun because it is too brilliant, but you can see everything under its light. God is something like that.

He gave that interview in 2002....and it appears that his views on religion may have changed before

he died in 2006....perhaps knowing you are dying (if he did know) concentrates the mind....?

He also talked in the OP about the good food he was eating....I wonder if on a very human level he may

have been disappointed that he couldn't cure himself...of what-ever he had....

Perhaps knowing he was dying gave him a crisis of belief?....or it clarified a lot of stuff for him....and

spreading his dying thoughts as 'Insider' was he final act of communication....to the general public?

I am just speculating.....

Mariano Artigas.

[momentarylapseofreason]

He condemned regular foods we eat. Maybe he believed the food had led to his illness. (which it surely can)

He claimed he was in human form for now.

I tried to find out what he died from and what illness he had but came up empty.

It's strange that he believed in reincarnation and that Jesus (we know of) wasn't the real Jesus -being a priest and all.

Could he have had a brain tumor or been on pain medicine/drugs to have these strange views I wonder ?

Edited October 27, 2007 by momentarylapseofreason

[Lotus Flower]

Momentary, you have done a lot of research there and found out a fair bit of info!

Thank you very much for all the information.

The only thing I am a tad confused about is this, how did it come about, that Mariano Artigas is the supposed author of the subject of this Thread?

I know that the Mind of the Universe is mentioned in the script, however, what disturbs me is that people are taking it for granted that the book "The Mind of the Universe" is what is meant when Mind of the Universe is mentioned as a phrase in the script itself.

Let's suppose for one moment that it is not that at all and that the Mind of the Universe is actually something totally different.

It would be so easy to be thrown off a path, but not so easy as it is to hear the message rather than concentrate on the author.

I am wondering how many people actually read the whole script and understood it. Too much emphasis is being placed on who wrote it rather than what the actual script contained.

I am more curious about what, exactly, it was in the whole thing that disturbed people so much, what did they find "malicious", what did they find threatening or harmful to themselves. If the answer is nothing, nothing at all, then it really needs to be asked, why then have so many got upset, if it was not threatening, harmful or malicious why get upset in the first place......

[BELOWIM]

Lotus Flower "I am more curious about what, exactly, it was in the whole thing that disturbed people so much, what did they find "malicious", what did they find threatening or harmful to themselves." I can answer that and no pun intended, but he said thing's that challenged people's belief's and reality's, unfortunately some people get very agitated at that! Like they say, Ouch, the truth hurt's: and the further you are from it the more it hurt's. .

[Lotus Flower]

Lotus Flower "I am more curious about what, exactly, it was in the whole thing that disturbed people so much, what did they find "malicious", what did they find threatening or harmful to themselves." I can answer that and no pun intended, but he said thing's that challenged people's belief's and reality's, unfortunately some people get very agitated at that! Like they say, Ouch, the truth hurt's: and the further you are from it the more it hurt's. .

You hit the nail right on the head I believe

[BELOWIM]

Beliefy me Lotus, it is,nt the only thing I,d like to hit on the head!

[lozadrial]

I am more curious about what, exactly, it was in the whole thing that disturbed people so much, what did they find "malicious", what did they find threatening or harmful to themselves. If the answer is nothing, nothing at all, then it really needs to be asked, why then have so many got upset, if it was not threatening, harmful or malicious why get upset in the first place......

Well, I can only answer for myself so here goes. Firstly, this is a forum and I thought we were here to process the information that we are given and offer various viewpoints on things, not just agree blindly - not to say that everyone was/does. You (and others) say that if we got 'upset' about the thread - and this is, of course, your own interpretation - a very convenient one might I add - that we must be 'far away from the truth' or scared or 'need to look inside ourselves' yadayada rather than the fact that for me - this was simply a matter of a thread that I felt strongly against because of its negativity. I know a few people have said that there was no 'malice' in it but, in my own opinion, there most definitely was and I felt that part of its purpose was to frighten people - just like so many organised religions.

Why should only people who agree with the OP be allowed to have a voice? If there are people out there (and there were a number of us) who feel strongly about a thread, be it in the affirmative or the negative, they should be allowed to say what they think and if the OP wants to put themselves out there like that then that's their own choice. You can't simply fall back on the old - 'ooh if they disagree its because they know its true' or 'they're just scared'. Take it from me, I really really do not agree that this thread is legit. I don't judge any of you for believing it or wanting to know more about it, so perhaps don't judge us either.

[Starscream]

Undoubtedly, his rich scholarship will continue produce fruit through those who, by his teaching and

publications, are the beneficiaries of this legacy that is imbued with respect and love for the truth.

http://www.unav.es/cryf/english/martigas.html

if one has such a love for the truth than one can not be fake.

it is in faith that all meaning is found

[BELOWIM]

lozadrial, "Firstly, this is a forum and I thought we were here to process the information that we are given and offer various viewpoints on things, not just agree blindly - not to say that everyone was/does." Correct statement and because I and Lotus had actually agreed with each other, doe's not negate you or anyone else's view's, as your's with our's...

[momentarylapseofreason]

Like I said I agree with some of what he wrote. But most of what I agreed with was the non-spiritual comments/claims because I'm an agnostic. This means I believe something if there is EVIDENCE for that particular claim and the rest I say MAYBE-and some of it is NO WAY JOSE. So that means I believe the rest is possibly true although I doubt it quite a bit.

He makes some "outrageous" claims.

Now think of how MANY MANY people make outrageous claims ?

Yes, he is very intelligent and seems to have done alot of research BUT it's how he chose to interpret this info is what I find interesting.

Many extremely intelligent people can be quite delusional-in fact this is a common occurence.

It's all in the INTERPRETATION.

I feel he studied and researched SO MUCH that he possibly became confused.(just like me self)

I find it startling that he contradicts his own religion but people do and can change their minds.

His illness may have been a factor/depending -if you know what I mean. Too bad I couldn't find anything.

We really DON"T KNOW do we ?

Too bad he isn't here to defend himself.

After knowing a little more about him I would have had some questions for him.

Edited October 28, 2007 by momentarylapseofreason

[Lotus Flower]

lozadrial, "Firstly, this is a forum and I thought we were here to process the information that we are given and offer various viewpoints on things, not just agree blindly - not to say that everyone was/does." Correct statement and because I and Lotus had actually agreed with each other, doe's not negate you or anyone else's view's, as your's with our's...

Absolutely!

Sorry Momentary, I didn't mean to come across as judgemental, that wasn't my intention at all.

I guess because a few on here did seem to go the insulting route to those that did seem to think there was some truth in that script, things got heated.

It definitely is one of those "agree to disagree" types of Thread.

[bee]

[The only thing I am a tad confused about is this, how did it come about, that Mariano Artigas is the supposed author of the subject of this Thread?

You are right...we don't know for sure.....maybe the dramatic change in attitude to religion

was an indication that it wasn't Mariano Artigas....?? Or maybe it was...Oh, I don't know...

I am more curious about what, exactly, it was in the whole thing that disturbed people so much, what did they find "malicious", what did they find threatening or harmful to themselves. If the answer is nothing, nothing at all, then it really needs to be asked, why then have so many got upset, if it was not threatening, harmful or malicious why get upset in the first place......

I think that a lot of people might find the whole 'elite family' thing provocative...I mean, there are

countless people who think they have rumbled the 'elite bloodline' bunch...and are very pleased

with themselves to go on about Bush...the British royal family etc...in a 'Ha ha...Got ya!' kind of way.

Then up this 'Insider' pops...claiming a whole new bunch of VERY secret, wealthy, bloodlines who

'rule'......(not saying I necessarily buy that....it's what 'he' said)

This will be my last post, it is done.

This was according to the Divine Law which is above my family or anyone on Earth and beyond.

The minority passes it on when ordered by the Higher Beings, understand this.

There are 2 undesired movements which were known to happen to me.

I would have stayed longer, although most areas have been covered.

I answered as much as I was allowed to in the simplest manner I could.

I had to write fast for a reason.

I must confess...that while I understand that the 'messenger' should be less important than

the messege....I am intrigued...

See high-lighted bit in quote above...what on earth could that mean...?

And why would he have to write fast?

[BELOWIM]

O.K. let's get one thing, if only one thing sorted, BLOODline now what doe's that Tell you? Like you wanna DNA chart? Come on, line's a Line, were all in it, Elementary my dear Watson!?...

[bee]

O.K. let's get one thing, if only one thing sorted, BLOODline now what doe's that Tell you? Like you wanna DNA chart? Come on, line's a Line, were all in it, Elementary my dear Watson!?...

Don't you start getting all criptic....

BLOODline tells me nothing...would you care to explain please, Sherlock!!!

[BELOWIM]

YEs bee, see my text BELOW! He,who, ever, that was/is/maybe at least confirmed That. NO? Bloodline IS and IT run's through ALL! AM I right or wrong bee? Please don't interpret me as being harsh as Iam totally not, Am just trying to clarify...Thankyou and my kind regard's..

[BELOWIM]

Go ahead ask away?

[bee]

YEs bee, see my text BELOW! He,who, ever, that was/is/maybe at least confirmed That. NO? Bloodline IS and IT run's through ALL! AM I right or wrong bee? Please don't interpret me as being harsh as Iam totally not, Am just trying to clarify...Thankyou and my kind regard's..

Well...I surpose that will have to do....

Without trawling through the OP again....'Insider' appears to be claiming that his family are part of

some group that are a ruling elite....who's existence is unknown to the general public....but that

they (the family) are influential in some way. Not sure if that claim rests on a bloodline or not....

as he did did say that they weren't the only ones that could attain divine knowledge (I think)

Anyway....as 'he' said he han't had children and never would.....I presume he's not doing (or couldn't)

his bit to further his bloodline.

Personally....somewhere down the line...I think we probably are 'ALL one'....so I think I agree with you...

but you are very criptic...so it's hard to tell.

Cheers....kind regards to you too....

[BELOWIM]

Influential! NOT, the Power of ONE is more than all together, criptic ,maybe? I.ll help as I can, Imagine, O.K. Imagine, 1+1=1, can you see that? not mathamatic's but harmony, harmonic resolution, can you see something here? The One's Divine law, >US One, is all...

[momentarylapseofreason]

Well...I surpose that will have to do....

Without trawling through the OP again....'Insider' appears to be claiming that his family are part of

some group that are a ruling elite....who's existence is unknown to the general public....but that

they (the family) are influential in some way. Not sure if that claim rests on a bloodline or not....

as he did did say that they weren't the only ones that could attain divine knowledge (I think)

Anyway....as 'he' said he han't had children and never would.....I presume he's not doing (or couldn't)

his bit to further his bloodline.

Personally....somewhere down the line...I think we probably are 'ALL one'....so I think I agree with you...

but you are very criptic...so it's hard to tell.

Cheers....kind regards to you too....

This might be of interest concerning bloodlines. But again who knows-if someone understood spanish or portugiese we could find out more. Mariano Artigas also taught in South America, Spain. Portugal-coinciding with Gervasios Artigas family roots where they stemmed from ?

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Gervasio_Artigas" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Gervasio_Artigas</a>

Edited October 28, 2007 by momentarylapseofreason