The Revelations of an Elite Family Insider

[Lotus Flower]

No what im sayng is Capeo from his words and what he says has porbably read books you and I would struggle through. He probably has a shelf with ten or eleven books on it that are word for word with what this flake is saying. He has heard it before and is calling the OP a copycat.

Well to be fair to the original poster - Diinero. He did say that he got the whole script from another site but was intrigued about it and wanted to share it with other Sites, hence why it was put on here. He never said it was his own work, therefore to call him a copycat is only what Diinero has said anyway, that it was not his own.

As I said though, I would never have come across the original script if it hadn't been put on here as I don't go to other Sites. Personally, I am glad I saw it.

[The Silver Thong]

Well to be fair to the original poster - Diinero. He did say that he got the whole script from another site but was intrigued about it and wanted to share it with other Sites, hence why it was put on here. He never said it was his own work, therefore to call him a copycat is only what Diinero has said anyway, that it was not his own.

As I said though, I would never have come across the original script if it hadn't been put on here as I don't go to other Sites. Personally, I am glad I saw it.

True, it has made for a fairly fun read, glad it was posted as well. Even though I don't really get it all lol

[Timon]

It was me posting as Ringer. Tried to play a joke on the believers of this "Insider" backfired though. Sorry for the dishonest attempt at trickery. I already regret it.

Sorry Mods...

Sorry members...

Bye UM forums.

[bee]

It was me posting as Ringer. Tried to play a joke on the believers of this "Insider" backfired though. Sorry for the dishonest attempt at trickery. I already regret it.

Bye UM forums.

You don't have to say goodbye...it was quite amusing!

Maybe an elite member called 'Outsider' might turn up one day...no, no, don't do it...you'll

get into more trouble...

[The Last Unicorn]

I would just like to mention, who's to say that no one else participating in this thread has a high IQ?

IQ can only take you so far anyway, in my opinion

[Stixxman]

well so far the evidence speaks against that particular theory.

UHHHHH yeah IQ can only take you as far as understanding the inner complexities of seemingly simple situations.

[David67]

Been following this thread for a while now. I am a Christian and I obviously don't support his claims about Jesus but he said many wise things, no matter how much some here try to bash it. The thing that stands out is the few who try to sabotage this thread with their patronizing selves in a very peculiar way. Thy could just stop posting in this thread of course, but no, they must try to kill it. Hmm, someone is getting nervous about something? Why do you feel so threatened?

Never mention why they think it has no content in a rational manner. Never explain why this and that is wrong. Just the usual weak 'He's an idiot, he spelled this word wrong, his views don't agree exactly with mine so he is lying'. What's intelligent about that, anyone care to explain? Attacking the person, not the content, classic strategy by the weak losing side.

Mentioning IQs like it means something also shows they are anally fixated with themselves. The quote that applies to those folk, by the insider is:

"Someone who is lead by "malicious" forces cannot utter/write certain words, phrases without it affecting him.

The ones who are lead by them also cannot accept hearing/reading certain things without getting overly mad/agressive (see the thread for examples)."

And yes, how ironic the sentence in brackets, 'see the thread for examples'....

I don't think anyone here said they fully accept what the insider says, but just hopping in and out here, with weak attacks and trying to insult doesn't show any kind of intelligence at all, no matter what the silly IQ test said, no matter how many books your monkey brain stored. It is all meaningless.

And finally, if what insider said is new age, then Pythagoras was one too, so were the Ancient Egyptians of the first 4 dynasties, so were the Copts and other Gnostics thousands of years ago, the teachings are very similar, in fact many times identical. Don't turn things around. So if you don't know what you talk about, educate yourself first, oh you high IQ boys, then come here being holier than thou trolls. This forum showed it's ugly face through this thread I think, or rather some members did show their ugly face. Of course, now I will be called an idiot and naive by them, if I have to go by the thread

Edited November 10, 2007 by David67

[bee]

And finally, if what insider said is new age, then Pythagoras was one too, so were the Ancient Egyptians of the first 4 dynasties, so were the Copts and other Gnostics thousands of years ago, the teachings are very similar, in fact many times identical. Don't turn things around. So if you don't know what you talk about, educate yourself first, oh you high IQ boys, then come here being holier than thou trolls. This forum showed it's ugly face through this thread I think, or rather some members did show their ugly face. Of course, now I will be called an idiot and naive by them, if I have to go by the thread

Welcome David67.....

Well said.....and what a scorcher of a first post....passionate and to the point.....

[The Last Unicorn]

well so far the evidence speaks against that particular theory.

UHHHHH yeah IQ can only take you as far as understanding the inner complexities of seemingly simple situations.

Enough of people judging someone they know absolutely nothing about.

If it really matters my IQ is in the top 90% and I certainly haven't reached my 'intellectual peak.'

If having a high IQ means you cannot try and seriously analyze a piece of text without scoffing at it because you are 'so above it.' then I appologise, I must be an anomaly.

I would be interested as to know what Capeo's religious/spiritual orientation is. Or does a high IQ mean you do not have beliefs? I know that certainly isn't true. It's nothing to do with the matter. Belief or faith or whatever you want to call it appears to be independant of IQ. I don't doubt that many highly religious people have high IQs.

If I was more easily offended I'd be a bit more annoyed at the fact you are seemingly trying to indicate that those who are discussing the nature of the post are 'stupid.'

Please, Capeo, if you have read the books that contain word for word what this 'flake' is saying, enlighten us.

Also, tell us the meaning of life, and all the mysteries of the universe while you're at it seeing as us idiots with low IQs are not at liberty to try and discover it

Edited November 10, 2007 by DawnUnicorn

[The Silver Thong]

Been following this thread for a while now. I am a Christian and I obviously don't support his claims about Jesus but he said many wise things, no matter how much some here try to bash it. The thing that stands out is the few who try to sabotage this thread with their patronizing selves in a very peculiar way. Thy could just stop posting in this thread of course, but no, they must try to kill it. Hmm, someone is getting nervous about something? Why do you feel so threatened?

Never mention why they think it has no content in a rational manner. Never explain why this and that is wrong. Just the usual weak 'He's an idiot, he spelled this word wrong, his views don't agree exactly with mine so he is lying'. What's intelligent about that, anyone care to explain? Attacking the person, not the content, classic strategy by the weak losing side.

Mentioning IQs like it means something also shows they are anally fixated with themselves. The quote that applies to those folk, by the insider is:

"Someone who is lead by "malicious" forces cannot utter/write certain words, phrases without it affecting him.

The ones who are lead by them also cannot accept hearing/reading certain things without getting overly mad/agressive (see the thread for examples)."

And yes, how ironic the sentence in brackets, 'see the thread for examples'....

I don't think anyone here said they fully accept what the insider says, but just hopping in and out here, with weak attacks and trying to insult doesn't show any kind of intelligence at all, no matter what the silly IQ test said, no matter how many books your monkey brain stored. It is all meaningless.

And finally, if what insider said is new age, then Pythagoras was one too, so were the Ancient Egyptians of the first 4 dynasties, so were the Copts and other Gnostics thousands of years ago, the teachings are very similar, in fact many times identical. Don't turn things around. So if you don't know what you talk about, educate yourself first, oh you high IQ boys, then come here being holier than thou trolls. This forum showed it's ugly face through this thread I think, or rather some members did show their ugly face. Of course, now I will be called an idiot and naive by them, if I have to go by the thread

Your an idiot !

I'm soooo Kidding, but had to do it. Welcome to U.M. and I liked your post. I look forward to seeing more of them as I see you actually have something to say.

[Celumnaz]

agreed with some, disagreed with some

Got the creeps with this tho

This is when "malicious" beings are present:

Everytime you cuss, talk negative, plot a scheme, get violent, utter lies, support murder, get sexually aroused, get afraid, get jealous, even laugh out loud, being overly joyfull (so all related to emotions/passions/desires), they appear near you.....one, two, three, or more of them.

the beings think I can deal with, but Laugh out loud?

When addressing Divinity (read again) be careful to articulate well, do not demand, tell, beg,

order, suggest, ask.....which are abhorrences, just state and do your duty.

doing duties I can do, but Can't ask?

I'm so screwed. I enjoy laughter and am sick and tired of suffering, and love to learn.

[bee]

agreed with some, disagreed with some

Got the creeps with this tho

the beings think I can deal with, but Laugh out loud?

doing duties I can do, but Can't ask?

I'm so screwed. I enjoy laughter and am sick and tired of suffering, and love to learn.

Interesting Celumnaz....I, too...did a double-take on the 'laugh out loud and be overly joyous bit'

I can intellectually understand the reasoning behind it...ie emotions/passions...but...I'm not about

to stop laughing out loud and being 'overly joyous'...I can see how negative stuff could bring in

problems....but I think that laughter (as long as it's not nasty/sarcastic/cynical )

and joy can be healing...and even maybe 'banish evil'.

I also take your point about the asking thing...but I wonder if it's more to do with asking God or

who-ever for this that and the other...rather than the search for knowledge...

No way are you 'screwed'....

[David67]

Hello Bee, I always liked reading here but this one time I had to post Not necessarily because I agree with the insider, like I mentioned, the things he says about my belief is insulting, BUT I acknowledge the wisdom he shares, it is authentic, deep and sincere, no doubt.

Instead of being afraid of it and feeling threatened by it, getting very negative about it and going on offense, the best student observes and sees what he can learn from it. That is a display of intelligence, not getting a high score at some IQ test and being idolized by a fan Someone who is for attaining knowledge, would never dismiss things like some here did and yet they think they are the smartest and wisest, the irony is slapping them in the face.

Hi Silver, glad you liked it. I am mainly an observer so I won't post much, I get more out of reading your thoughts on many issues

Celumnaz , I thought about those too and I got these answers. First those beings are not bad or negative but balance out things, so no need to get the creeps. 'Being overly joyous' and being very sad are emotionally the same thing actually even though they make you feel different, both are about wallowing in emotions which are physical, which is not your true self. That's the point he made I think and I agree. Someone who is very happy, will also be very sad, that's the balance of those beings mentioned before.

And about asking. I would say, why ask when it is already being provided to you constantly, with no breaks, no conditions set? Isn't that very rude and inconsiderate of us? We don't notice it is being provided constantly so we ask, beg, demand etc., that's the point he made and again I agree.

Take care, David

Edited November 10, 2007 by David67

[chaosdarksoulz]

It's ridiculous it even started. That's the stupidest OP I've ever read on here. And that's saying something.

Man, do i feel stupid or what? Why did i even bother replying to this OP...

Like stixman said, why is this discusion still going on? Because somethings said deserve consideration? Please, its nothing that was'nt already out there.

Just because you heard it for the first time, it dont seperate it from any other theory...

[chaosdarksoulz]

No offence to anyone, but i might as well log in with a different name and claim to be another insider and answer questions while im on google...

Maybe you should read upon ancient cultures and you'd find some beliefs that deserve to be acknowledged though it goes against many mainstream religions...

p.s. it was me who first found out who insider was (out of UM forum) and posted it... go back and read... My point? Nothing... just thought i'd let you know...

[The Last Unicorn]

No offence to anyone, but i might as well log in with a different name and claim to be another insider and answer questions while im on google...

Maybe you should read upon ancient cultures and you'd find some beliefs that deserve to be acknowledged though it goes against many mainstream religions...

p.s. it was me who first found out who insider was (out of UM forum) and posted it... go back and read... My point? Nothing... just thought i'd let you know...

Was it you who reckons insider is that dead protugese guy?

[David67]

Was it you who reckons insider is that dead protugese guy?

On a wrong assumption which is baseless, namely the fact that insider used the term mind of the universe once and that Portuguese guy Artigas wrote an essay with that title long ago. That is his 'evidence'. Problem is this, Mariano Artigas is a devout Christian (insider anti religion, especially insulting towards Christianity) had ties to many universities and societies (insider is anti institution of different kinds and said never to join any), heavily supporter of Jesus (insider was definitely not, he called him a puppet and suggested he is a fraud even) and Artigas used a very different way of writing, had different vocabulary, etc. Definitely not that guy.

Unless, of course, everyone who uses the term mind of the universe once is Mariano Artigas.

Again I ask, why are people trying to attack and discredit the insider as the person and not talk about specific points raised in the text? That tactic is never used by the good side.

[GreenFriend]

In my heart of hearts, it seems like one of two things: a "cold/hot reading" or purposful disinformation.

[momentarylapseofreason]

On a wrong assumption which is baseless, namely the fact that insider used the term mind of the universe once and that Portuguese guy Artigas wrote an essay with that title long ago. That is his 'evidence'. Problem is this, Mariano Artigas is a devout Christian (insider anti religion, especially insulting towards Christianity) had ties to many universities and societies (insider is anti institution of different kinds and said never to join any), heavily supporter of Jesus (insider was definitely not, he called him a puppet and suggested he is a fraud even) and Artigas used a very different way of writing, had different vocabulary, etc. Definitely not that guy.

Unless, of course, everyone who uses the term mind of the universe once is Mariano Artigas.

Again I ask, why are people trying to attack and discredit the insider as the person and not talk about specific points raised in the text? That tactic is never used by the good side.

I would like TO KNOW WHY *jaks.co.ex* posted that the INSIDER is Mariano Artigas ? (i went through all the trouble for nothing ?)

So why jaks.co.ex ???

Edited November 11, 2007 by momentarylapseofreason

[Lotus Flower]

Been following this thread for a while now. I am a Christian and I obviously don't support his claims about Jesus but he said many wise things, no matter how much some here try to bash it. The thing that stands out is the few who try to sabotage this thread with their patronizing selves in a very peculiar way. Thy could just stop posting in this thread of course, but no, they must try to kill it. Hmm, someone is getting nervous about something? Why do you feel so threatened?

Never mention why they think it has no content in a rational manner. Never explain why this and that is wrong. Just the usual weak 'He's an idiot, he spelled this word wrong, his views don't agree exactly with mine so he is lying'. What's intelligent about that, anyone care to explain? Attacking the person, not the content, classic strategy by the weak losing side.

Mentioning IQs like it means something also shows they are anally fixated with themselves. The quote that applies to those folk, by the insider is:

"Someone who is lead by "malicious" forces cannot utter/write certain words, phrases without it affecting him.

The ones who are lead by them also cannot accept hearing/reading certain things without getting overly mad/agressive (see the thread for examples)."

And yes, how ironic the sentence in brackets, 'see the thread for examples'....

I don't think anyone here said they fully accept what the insider says, but just hopping in and out here, with weak attacks and trying to insult doesn't show any kind of intelligence at all, no matter what the silly IQ test said, no matter how many books your monkey brain stored. It is all meaningless.

And finally, if what insider said is new age, then Pythagoras was one too, so were the Ancient Egyptians of the first 4 dynasties, so were the Copts and other Gnostics thousands of years ago, the teachings are very similar, in fact many times identical. Don't turn things around. So if you don't know what you talk about, educate yourself first, oh you high IQ boys, then come here being holier than thou trolls. This forum showed it's ugly face through this thread I think, or rather some members did show their ugly face. Of course, now I will be called an idiot and naive by them, if I have to go by the thread

Hi David, welcome to UM!

I agree with Bee, scorcher (good word that ) of an early post! You said a few posts later that you mainly observe, I sure hope you contribute to UM a lot more, you write good

agreed with some, disagreed with some

Got the creeps with this tho

the beings think I can deal with, but Laugh out loud?

doing duties I can do, but Can't ask?

I'm so screwed. I enjoy laughter and am sick and tired of suffering, and love to learn.

I wonder if the laugh out loud bit you are talking about was meant for hysterical outbursts? Overload of emotions sort of thing. I too, love laughing, sometimes people make me laugh so much I end up with a stomach ache and my face hurts. If laughing can tone the stomach muscles, I should get a nice six-pack very soon!

[Sleeping with Fishes]

I thought it was a good read. (a complete load of BS, but it killed an hour).

Yes, but Christ did not descend into the body of a human called Jesus of Nazareth, 2014 years ago on March 20th, almost 2 hours before sunrise (which is the secret time of birth of your "son of god").

March the 20th!!!!! Hey thats cool, I am going to start buying all my Christmas presents in the January sales (thus saving myself a pretty penny) and I will still have a couple of months to make the Christmas cake and stuff.

[Timon]

And finally, if what insider said is new age, then Pythagoras was one too, so were the Ancient Egyptians of the first 4 dynasties, so were the Copts and other Gnostics thousands of years ago, the teachings are very similar, in fact many times identical. Don't turn things around. So if you don't know what you talk about, educate yourself first, oh you high IQ boys, then come here being holier than thou trolls. This forum showed it's ugly face through this thread I think, or rather some members did show their ugly face. Of course, now I will be called an idiot and naive by them, if I have to go by the thread

According to the Insider's text all those peoples you have mentioned were mere puppets in the game. Pythagoras, he was puppet doing only what he was told to do by the insider's ancestors. I'm I wrong isn't that what he implyed. To beleive what this guy says means you have to degrade all the work of some of the most brillaint and innovative people in history, and do all that because he said so basically, no real evidence.

I showed my ugly face, point being. You critisize people who attack the person and not the argument, but then you go and do the same thing, we all have ugly faces, you are acting holier then thou in this instance aswell.

[Lotus Flower]

According to the Insider's text all those peoples you have mentioned were mere puppets in the game. Pythagoras, he was puppet doing only what he was told to do by the insider's ancestors. I'm I wrong isn't that what he implyed. To beleive what this guy says means you have to degrade all the work of some of the most brillaint and innovative people in history, and do all that because he said so basically, no real evidence.

I showed my ugly face, point being. You critisize people who attack the person and not the argument, but then you go and do the same thing, we all have ugly faces, you are acting holier then thou in this instance aswell.

I guess it all depends on who The Insider's ancestors were...

[Primeval]

9 posts, all I have to say!

[Timon]

No offence to anyone, but i might as well log in with a different name and claim to be another insider and answer questions while im on google...

Maybe you should read upon ancient cultures and you'd find some beliefs that deserve to be acknowledged though it goes against many mainstream religions...

p.s. it was me who first found out who insider was (out of UM forum) and posted it... go back and read... My point? Nothing... just thought i'd let you know...

I already tried that and the mods caught me, I forgot that when you do that you have to have multiple IP addresses.

They had problems fixing Insider's IP when he first posted his revelations cause his IP kept changing, this added to the mystery of his identity, but this is easly done if you live in a place with multiply accessable wireless internet, like an arpartment building.