Moon Monkey Posted November 5, 2007 #1 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) ...says the head of MI5. Breaking news so no links yet, I'll fill it in later, but the figure seems a little low to me but he specifies KNOWN TO BE THREATS so I'll wait for an explanation as to the level of threat these people represent or to see if he gives another figure for POTENTIAL threats Edited November 5, 2007 by Moon Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted November 5, 2007 #2 Share Posted November 5, 2007 ...says the head of MI5. Breaking news so no links yet, I'll fill it in later, but the figure seems a little low to me but he specifies KNOWN TO BE THREATS so I'll wait for an explanation as to the level of threat these people represent or to see if he gives another figure for POTENTIAL threats only 2000...isnt the US list about 75,000?...I'm on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted November 5, 2007 #3 Share Posted November 5, 2007 If they are "known threats", then why are they allowed to remain at liberty ? Meow Purr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted November 5, 2007 Author #4 Share Posted November 5, 2007 only 2000...isnt the US list about 75,000?...I'm on it. Lol, you're special anyway heres Sky's update, they are the first to carry it: http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91211-1291544,00.html If they are "known threats", then why are they allowed to remain at liberty ? Meow Purr. Pound to a penny its got something to do with "human rights" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted November 5, 2007 #5 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) ...says the head of MI5. Breaking news so no links yet, I'll fill it in later, but the figure seems a little low to me but he specifies KNOWN TO BE THREATS so I'll wait for an explanation as to the level of threat these people represent or to see if he gives another figure for POTENTIAL threats Moon you want to listen to the speech made after 9/11, MI5 told us in the UK what the threats where and sadly they come true, you only have to look at the amount of foiled plots, MI5 & MI6 are doing a great job on the secret war, all while trying to keep an eye on spies from other countries especially from Russia, Edited November 5, 2007 by stevewinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted November 5, 2007 Author #6 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Moon you want to listen to the speech made after 9/11, MI5 told us in the UK what the threats where and sadly they come true, you only have to look at the amount of foiled plots, MI5 & MI6 are doing a great job on the secret war, all while trying to keep and eye on spies from other countries especially from Russia, Bloody hell, I've got to go back to the UK for a few months soon as well, I feel safer here in Israel. I walk around Manchester and see vans parked outside office blocks with the indicators flashing as if that means they can park where they want, I go through train stations packed with people and no security, no searches, nothing. I get searched entering my local here it takes 3 seconds and you can sit at ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted November 5, 2007 #7 Share Posted November 5, 2007 heres a link to certain threats, http://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/Page16.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted November 5, 2007 Author #8 Share Posted November 5, 2007 heres a link to certain threats, http://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/Page16.html Lol, I expected a rogues gallery of names and faces to be avoided and reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted November 5, 2007 #9 Share Posted November 5, 2007 heres a link to certain threats, http://www.mi5.gov.uk/output/Page16.html I think the uk is in the most dangerous position when it comes to terrorism..you invite the problem in thru all your political correctness...and with your proximity to the muslim hotspots..well i'd be watchful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob26003 Posted November 5, 2007 #10 Share Posted November 5, 2007 If they are "known threats", then why are they allowed to remain at liberty ? Meow Purr. I dunno about the UK, but here in the US, the definition of what is a "known threat" keeps getting broader and broader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted November 5, 2007 #11 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Yaaaaaay - just followed the link that Stevewinn posted.. it appears that MI5 are recruiting ! They have vacancies for field agents (wonder what happened to the previous ones ? ). Mind you, the salary is only £23,500. Oooooh - so are the SIS - they have vacancies for foreign intelligence officers (spies). see the MI6 website . Doesn't say what the salary is, but the benefits might be interesting. (fountain pen with a laser in the nib.... wristwatch that fires out a rapelling cord and grapnel etc). Is it just me who finds it bizzarre that the Secret Intelligence Service are recruiting for spies on a public website ? Meow Purr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob26003 Posted November 5, 2007 #12 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Yeah, then you can bust Marxist Conspiracy Theorist like me cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted November 5, 2007 #13 Share Posted November 5, 2007 maybe the mi5 is looking for inquisitive cats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob26003 Posted November 5, 2007 #14 Share Posted November 5, 2007 FLASHBACK! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO COINTELPRO (Counter Intelligence Program) was a program of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. Although covert operations have been employed throughout FBI history, the formal COINTELPRO operations of 1956-1971 were broadly targeted against organizations that were (at the time) considered to have politically radical elements, ranging from those whose stated goal was the violent overthrow of the U.S. government (such as the Weathermen); non-violent civil rights groups such as Martin Luther King Jr.'s Southern Christian Leadership Conference; and violent groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the American Nazi Party. The founding document of COINTELPRO directed FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob26003 Posted November 5, 2007 #15 Share Posted November 5, 2007 FLASHBACK! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Debs Eugene V. Debs Eugene Victor Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American labor and political leader, one of the founders of the International Labor Union and the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), as well as five-time Socialist Party of America candidate for President of the United States. [1] On June 16, 1918, Debs made a speech in Canton, Ohio in opposition to World War I and was arrested under the Espionage Act of 1917. He was convicted, sentenced to serve ten years in prison and disenfranchised for life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_scare The term "Red Scare" has been retroactively applied to two distinct periods of strong anti-Communism in United States history: first from 1917 to 1920, and second from the late 1940s through the late 1950s. These periods were characterized by heightened suspicion of Communists and other radicals, and the fear of widespread infiltration of Communists in U.S. government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted November 5, 2007 #16 Share Posted November 5, 2007 maybe the mi5 is looking for inquisitive cats.... Can't talk now.... I think I've picked up a tail. Meow Purr (diddly-purr-purr, purr purr purr purr-diddly-purr-purr, purr purr purr purr-diddly-purr-purr, purr purr purr MEOWWWWW, meow-purr. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted November 5, 2007 #17 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Lol, I expected a rogues gallery of names and faces to be avoided and reported. No we do it all in secret, i was once a member of the secret seven, it was that secret i didnt know who the other six were, (joke TC) i've tried to find the speech by an MI5 agent for the BBC they done the recording so you could only see his silhouette, real spy type stuff, but what he said was interesting very interesting, http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1275774,00.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/...1182570,00.html http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1725539.ece http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../04/nterr04.xml http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7064270.stm Are main problem in Britain is that the enemy is within, our open door policy to let everyman and his dog in, is going to bite us on the a***. a quote off another forum, "A respected and intelligent Muslim cleric Abul Hakim - was quoted as saying: 'There are only an estimated 16% of Muslims in GB who do not condemn suicide bombing'. I believe that there are an estimated 3,200,000 Muslims living in GB. 16% of 3,200,000 is 512,000. That is over half a million people RESIDENT in GB who 'support' suicide bombing. Let us make the 16% into 5%, no let us make it 1%. That leaves us with 32,000. Now it only took 3 on '7/7'." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted November 5, 2007 #18 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I think the uk is in the most dangerous position when it comes to terrorism..you invite the problem in thru all your political correctness...and with your proximity to the muslim hotspots..well i'd be watchful... Ain't that the truth... The other day I was on the London underground, with a friend. I said, mmmh 'spot the terrorists'. The train was full of the stereotypical-looking bomber. and no I don't mean just because... they were midden eastern. I mean, some of the women were in full burkas with military backpacks.. Since 911, You can tell some of them love the fear they spread just by wearing the clothes to provoke an reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted November 5, 2007 #19 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Report on the BBC news website. watch video on the right. Thousands' pose UK terror threat There are at least 2,000 people in the UK who pose a threat to national security because of their support for terrorism, the head of MI5 has said. Jonathan Evans said there had been a rise of 400 since November 2006. He said children as young as 15 were being recruited for terrorist-related activity by al-Qaeda. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7078712.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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