Doomsday Dec 21, 2012 Scenarios

[Self]

Okay enough with this whole trying to predict Dec 21, 2012 Doomsday and crap like that, how about we ask this question to you guys out there? What would you like to see happen, what would you say would happen, what do you think is instore for that day and that year? When will it start, how will it end, will it ever end, what's the climate like, etc. etc. etc. Let me know, heck, let everyone know! Later.

If there is a purpose for an "event" in 2012, it would be predicated on the need for us, globally, to change the way we function as a human beings and what we will allow for ourselves in the future.

for instance; Right now, so many people sit in fear on so many levels...

Globally: Is the world coming to an end in 2012? Will there be another Terrorist attack. Are we going to destroy the our global climate(Global Warming). Is the war going to escalate into a nuclear confrontation?

Nationally: Is the Economy going to sink farther. Where is all this Bailout money going? Will inflation and taxes going through the roof? Will my children have a future? Do I want government sponsored health care? Am I slowly losing my Constitutional rights?

Personally: Am I going to be part of the next job cut? Will I get the Swine Flu. Do I have Cancer. What do I do if civil unrest breaks out in my city? Will Martial Law be enacted and will they confiscate my property? Will I be able to defend myself?

We sit here in the darkness wondering what is coming next. Yet all over the globe it seems like leaders are making decisions based on their own agendas, gaining more and more for themselves taking advantage of the confusion that encompasses mass populations of regular hard working people globally.

Is this the way it is supposed to be or is this just the way we have allowed it to become? Perhaps the changes that everyone seems to sense are coming have to do with the imbalances that exist at the level of the individual. How much more stress and insecurity can we continue to support? This has to change.

The spiritualist may say, God has a plan for it's creations and those plans will not be foiled. The pragmatist may say, systems that do not flourish and produce in kind are likely to fail through natural de-selection. We see this same process in the seasons. Nature refreshes every year. The old dies away giving life to a new explosion of possibility and beauty. Maybe the 2012 phenomena is just part of that same process.

If something does happen, keep in mind that is has taken ~25000 years to get to this point of "darkness". It may take a few years to turn the "light" back on.

If we are headed for a large shift, then it will become very important for the individual to unite with other individuals for safety and humanity. One single significant seismic event is all it will take to interrupt the national distribution of resources. It is not likely that people are ready to go 2, 3 or 4 weeks without food. Add the loss of utilities, like power and water, to that and there is surely going to be some level of panic and chaos. If so, then preparation is probably a good idea. Fear is probably a bad idea. Hope is probably the anchor of seeing it through.

[bluemoon22]

HERE IS WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN! I HAVE THE TRUTH

ALIENS SPACE WELL APPER FROM ALL OF THE WORLD AND ALIENS WILL LOWER FROM THE SHIPS

THEY BEGAN TRSANMITTING TO THE WORLD A MESSAGE WITH FOLLOWING INFORMATION

TO ALL HUMANS OF PLANET EARTH

THIS IS THE DAY WE TELL YOU THAT YOUR DOOM IS NEAR

A LASER WILL POWER FROM THERE MOTHERSHIP THE SIZE OF 2MOONS

AND RIGHT BEFORE OUR FINAL MOMENTS THE HEAD ALIEN WIL SAY

[sNIP}

bluemoon22, please read the PM I am sending you

Edited December 6, 2009 by Waspie_Dwarf
removed profanity.

[Crow Woman]

You know what? I'm just gonna have an End of the World Party dowtown with my buds. It'll be the most epic party EVER!

[Piney]

The 2012 Doomsday scenario is the same across the board with different cultures, <b>separate</b> cultures, separated by thousands of miles. The Chinese, The Maya, the Hopi Indians, even a web based program used today to predict stock futures has come up with 2012 as a <u>baadd year </u>for the earth and mankind. Across the board, different cultures coming up with 2012. Scary.

That's Newage bull crap about the Hopi. Most of their so-called prophecies are made up by Newage wannabe shaman white folks. The Maya just say it's the end of their calendar.

Europeans see the concept of time as linear. American Indians see the concept of time as circular. We have no pre-contact "End Times" concept.

Lapiche

[Waspie_Dwarf]

Shouldn't this be in the 'nah thats rubbish' or witchcraft section <img src="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

belial,

this website asks that people respect others views so comments like that are uncalled for. HOWEVER, as this is most certainly not a Science & Technology discussion, the Modern Mysteries, New Age and 2012 forum would seem to be the logical place for this. That is where I shall move it to.

SRCivic98,

I think you should take your own advice about being uptight:

It's WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IF IT DID HAPPEN!!!!! Get it right alright? So just think up something you'd like to see happen on Dec 21, 2012 and go with it. Don't be so up tight.

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[THE MATRIX]

Okay enough with this whole trying to predict Dec 21, 2012 Doomsday and crap like that, how about we ask this question to you guys out there? What would you like to see happen, what would you say would happen, what do you think is instore for that day and that year? When will it start, how will it end, will it ever end, what's the climate like, etc. etc. etc. Let me know, heck, let everyone know! Later.

Hopefully I 'll get lucky and don't break the 40 year old virgin's record.

Edited December 8, 2009 by wolfram&hart12345

[para-david]

well the humanity will die 100%, earth will regenerate her self as many times before ! every end, new begining

[innerverse]

In 21 december 2012 a winter solstice will occur. Imagine that!

[TheSearcher]

well the humanity will die 100%, earth will regenerate her self as many times before ! every end, new begining

How? And how do you know?

[digitalartist]

How? And how do you know?

Maybe he thinks this is Galafrey, home world of the time lords.

[Cryptid_Control]

Doesn't matter if it happens or not. What are you going to do?? You could freak out about it, but you still have no control over what is going to happen on that date.

Just keep on living your life. If nothing happens, then so be it. If something does happen, there is nothing you can do about it.

EXACTLY!

[TheSearcher]

Maybe he thinks this is Galafrey, home world of the time lords.

Oh golly another time lord, called "the fruitcake".

[jesspy]

What would I like to see happen? I would like to see something cool like an alien invasion or something. What do I think will actually happen? I think there will be some kind of pole shift, so boring.

i'd like to see it all end,then i'd win my bet against my friend

But you wouldn't be able to claim your winnings ....is that not a bit odd. I made the same bet with my Father so when im in the after life ill be like "****!!! now ill never get that hundred bucks"

A mega-thrust earthquake along the pacific coast

thats possible like the Yellowstone thing.

I saw a cover of "Time" once that said Claifornia is Americas future.....I thought Not if the San Andreas goes in a big way.

I think nothing will happen and ill go out and buy me a shirt that says..."I survived 21/12/2012 and all i got was this shirt" I want to see happen a pole shift with those cool northern lights happening everywhere.

[Nik Xues]

Wow that was a post from a while ago....

Yeah i simplified i was going to say i get super powers and then begin systematically killing all those who dissapoint me.

But i cant scientifically back that and well its not necessarily natural phenomenon.

Unless of course it to is on the wheel??

If it is that is so becoming my new Avatar Pick

[the cryptid joker]

i would like a huge war against humans and demons to happen. but i doubt it will

[astridx6]

i dont think the world will end in 2012. i believe that the government is pushing that out there because there will be a great change that they will either be bringing or that they are aware is coming. or i believe perhaps a revolution will start. the people in this country can only withstand the corruption that has been taking place but for only so long. its already been shown in how everything is being moved to the left field...from democrat to republic its crazy how people are changing and thought processes are being altered! ok im going off the subject here got carried away in my own thoughts. whatever is happening in 2012....its not the end of the world, at least not literally!

[Brakzar Break]

Alien Invasion!

Bah who am I kidding?

Nothing catastrophic is going to happen...

But you wouldn't be able to claim your winnings ....is that not a bit odd. I made the same bet with my Father so when im in the after life ill be like "****!!! now ill never get that hundred bucks"

thats possible like the Yellowstone thing.

I saw a cover of "Time" once that said Claifornia is Americas future.....I thought Not if the San Andreas goes in a big way.

I think nothing will happen and ill go out and buy me a shirt that says..."I survived 21/12/2012 and all i got was this shirt" I want to see happen a pole shift with those cool northern lights happening everywhere.

LOL!!

[Life_Is_Too_Short]

Do you wanna know what will happen? What every mankind expects to happen. If all 6 billion people think the world will end then it will. Man kinds conscience of the earth and the earth's conscience and the spirit will decide what happens. They all work together. Not one can work individually. So if the majority of man kind thinks the world will end then it will. If the majority of man kind does not think the world will end then it will never end. Now I do not think the world will ever end. I believe their is some type of god and that he would never make the man kind extinct. Now what I believe will happen is in 2012 we will begin to see more UFO's and more Alien cases around the world. Planet X does not exist. If it did we would have seen a clear image of this gas ball. Not enough proof has been presented that makes me believe it is true. I do believe the Sumerians were in touch with Aliens. I believe that people can go in touch with the inner energy of the universe. Now I know the world will not end in 2012. I am pretty sure that over 3 billion people believe in this. The Mayan calendar does not end in 2012 it is a new beginning. Now something will change in 2012 but it will not be the end of man kind. I am only 13 years old but I know a lot of stuff. I believe that I am here to solve many of man kinds mysteries.

[Lilly]

In order to solve mysteries you need more than belief. It really doesn't matter what anyone (even millions of people) believe. What really matters is what one can demonstrate using solid irrefutable evidence. I've yet to see good evidence that the world is going to end based on the timetable of the ancient Mayans. Naturally, I could be wrong (but I don't think so). In apx. 2.5 years we'll all know for sure.

[SlimJim22]

In order to solve mysteries you need more than belief. It really doesn't matter what anyone (even millions of people) believe. What really matters is what one can demonstrate using solid irrefutable evidence. I've yet to see good evidence that the world is going to end based on the timetable of the ancient Mayans. Naturally, I could be wrong (but I don't think so). In apx. 2.5 years we'll all know for sure.

As Einstein said "as far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do refer to reality." So, what can be demonstrated by irrefutable evidence is only part of the issue.

It is not about belief but about knowledge of oneself and ones envirnoment inclusing the laws of nature. Models only apply to the set phenomena that they are designed to explain and as yet we have not been able to create one model that everything fits neatly into. I believe the ancients, indigenous people and eastern mystics understand this idea and respect that the abstractions they take from observing themselves and the world are not absolute but are emipiriclly evidence of our true nature. That being one that is capable of intuitve insights that transcend the material world. Thoughts and imaginings are not limited once we release ourselves from the arrogance of assuming that we know exctly how and why our world works the way it does.

I have read that 11:11am on the 21/12/2012 there will be a triple sacred rebirth at Chichen Itza. There are other prophecies that desrtuction will ensue if we don't fall in line with a more sustainable way of living and stop taking without giving in return to the earth. It could also be the beginning of the age of Aquarius but this is not certain, it depends on whether we give importance to the procession and the zodiac. What we can see from the archeological record is that roughly every 2,000 years there is an even that sends humanity in a direction subtley different from the one before.

The ge of Pisces was characterized by christianity and changing views of spirituality in general to the point where the external became more internal. It also has emphasized dual nature, good and evil, old and young and spirit and matter. The end of an age are notoriously difficult as the earth experiences birth pangs from going from one subtle field into the other. So, with the dawn of a new age, a switch will not be turned out setting the world to rights but we might just start to ppreciate the mistakes that have been made and start correcting them.

I'm only guessing but I reckon the age of Aquarius will be charcterized by conservation, particularly of water sources. A greater apprciation of feminine and compassionate thought and action. Also, maybe the dual nature will be superceded and we will accept our connectedness aas opposed to the separation. Last one is the possible increase in channelling or spiritual experience because as a vessel we have the potential to become filled.

[TheSearcher]

As Einstein said "as far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do refer to reality." So, what can be demonstrated by irrefutable evidence is only part of the issue.

It is not about belief but about knowledge of oneself and ones envirnoment inclusing the laws of nature. Models only apply to the set phenomena that they are designed to explain and as yet we have not been able to create one model that everything fits neatly into. I believe the ancients, indigenous people and eastern mystics understand this idea and respect that the abstractions they take from observing themselves and the world are not absolute but are emipiriclly evidence of our true nature. That being one that is capable of intuitve insights that transcend the material world. Thoughts and imaginings are not limited once we release ourselves from the arrogance of assuming that we know exctly how and why our world works the way it does.

I have read that 11:11am on the 21/12/2012 there will be a triple sacred rebirth at Chichen Itza. There are other prophecies that desrtuction will ensue if we don't fall in line with a more sustainable way of living and stop taking without giving in return to the earth. It could also be the beginning of the age of Aquarius but this is not certain, it depends on whether we give importance to the procession and the zodiac. What we can see from the archeological record is that roughly every 2,000 years there is an even that sends humanity in a direction subtley different from the one before.

The ge of Pisces was characterized by christianity and changing views of spirituality in general to the point where the external became more internal. It also has emphasized dual nature, good and evil, old and young and spirit and matter. The end of an age are notoriously difficult as the earth experiences birth pangs from going from one subtle field into the other. So, with the dawn of a new age, a switch will not be turned out setting the world to rights but we might just start to ppreciate the mistakes that have been made and start correcting them.

I'm only guessing but I reckon the age of Aquarius will be charcterized by conservation, particularly of water sources. A greater apprciation of feminine and compassionate thought and action. Also, maybe the dual nature will be superceded and we will accept our connectedness aas opposed to the separation. Last one is the possible increase in channelling or spiritual experience because as a vessel we have the potential to become filled.

Sorry Jim, but that's just complete new age nonsense. Triple rebirth at Chichen Itza? What are you talking about? Rebirth of what? What prophecies are you talking about, that ensure destruction if we don't "better our ways"? Care to elaborate and source? I thought I had heard all the 2012 theories already, but this one I have not.

Slim, Mate, the Age of Aquarius is either the current or new age in the astrological cycle, but seen as no two astrologers can seem to agree, that's a very moot point yet again. Each astrological age is approximately 2,150 years long, on average, but since there are various methods of calculating this length, that may yield longer or shorter time spans depending upon the technique used. Can you see why I believe it to be clap trap?

[Darknight1]

Okay enough with this whole trying to predict Dec 21, 2012 Doomsday and crap like that, how about we ask this question to you guys out there? What would you like to see happen, what would you say would happen, what do you think is instore for that day and that year? When will it start, how will it end, will it ever end, what's the climate like, etc. etc. etc. Let me know, heck, let everyone know! Later.

Hmmm perhaps we will be over run with zombies Or maybe the robot's we have been engineering over the years will realize humans are a threat and try to wipe us out.

I prefer the zombie scenario myself.

[Javril]

Its not doom forever....

Its DUke Nukem FOREVER!!

Coming out 2011,true story.

You wish; I think the game is cursed.

[SlimJim22]

Sorry Jim, but that's just complete new age nonsense. Triple rebirth at Chichen Itza? What are you talking about? Rebirth of what? What prophecies are you talking about, that ensure destruction if we don't "better our ways"? Care to elaborate and source? I thought I had heard all the 2012 theories already, but this one I have not.

Slim, Mate, the Age of Aquarius is either the current or new age in the astrological cycle, but seen as no two astrologers can seem to agree, that's a very moot point yet again. Each astrological age is approximately 2,150 years long, on average, but since there are various methods of calculating this length, that may yield longer or shorter time spans depending upon the technique used. Can you see why I believe it to be clap trap?

Searcher sweetie, we have had the triple sacred rebirth discussion more times than I can remember. At the winter solstice there will be a daily rebirth of the sun, annual rebirth and a cosmic rebirth as it moves out of the way of the dark rift or birth canal. Chichen Itza is the site of the ball court where this was played out ritually I am guessing.

The prophecies that we will face a heap of trouble come from the Hopi, the Sioux and many other tribes. If you want me to source some I will but I reckon prophecies warninf of disaster are prevalent among indigenous people. In fairness they are the people will face the sharp end of the stick first. If eco systems begin to fail then it will get bad quick. This is common sense but we still seem to think we can treat the planet like it is our property and the oceans are our toilets.

I can see why you believe it is clap trap but that is not conclusive enough. These are subtle changes we are talking about that take centuries to occur. It is not going to be a sudden shift but the changes are already going on. There is a lot of debate but the most obvious answer is usually the right one. There is ample evidence to suggest that the age of Taurus from roughly 4,000-2,000bce was identified by cattle practically and symbolically. It was the time when the plough was invented (I think) and cattle domestication occurred. There were rituals regarding drinking bull blood or semen (yumm) to enhance strength. There are a few other symbolic meanings but I doubt you are interested or it is relevant.

Age of Ares, we have a shift to the iron age with a more aggressive human nature becoming prevalent. There were mass migrations leading to conquests and further dispersals. This was set off by Thera and other geoligcal activity that was most likely a symptom of the passing of the age but this is far from certain. As I have already mentioned the age of Pisces was about dualism between the spiritual and the rational. I think the aquarian age will be about the two coming together as is happening in quantum physics. Yes I am enjoying the Capra.

Turn on any world news network and it won't be long before you are presented with an image that the world is hurting and so are the people. Sadly it is the people with nothing who will die first when they are probably not the ones guilty of causing the demise of our environment. What will it take to get the majority to stop talking about sustainability and actually do it? Alright so Germany have got the right idea but the rest of the world seems to be lagging behind.

[J4yD0r]

I knew Canada was planning to invade the US! Did my many years of shouting in front of government buildings do more than get me thrown in the "drunk tank"? Did they listen? No!

Weep as our new Canadian overlords take control of the once proud USA!

Muahahahahaa!!! Bow to your new Masters!

Does anyone else find it hilarious that Blizzard's release date for Diablo III is Dec. 22nd, 2012??

Hahahaha the world will literally end before Diablo III comes out