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Talon

America is the lone super-power in the world. Not because we are Imperialists,

rather because we are free.

Actually lots of nations are 'free' (I'm assuming you mean are democracies, freedom of speech etc), you are instead a super power because of your resources

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thepsychoticseaotter

oh look here we go again.........I'm getting so sick of this sh**.....

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Talon

You just hate America it seems to me without recognizing that

we are all in this together

Simply because someone disagrees with you does not mean they are racist

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Thistle
oh look here we go again.........I'm getting so sick of this sh**.....

lmao Syko..........I so agree with u there. Isn't it amazing that an argument can be closed down in one forum just to start off where it finished in another.

Can every body please get the chips off their shoulders where their countries are concerned .............. or are we gonna see another thread descend into:

My country is the best

No my country is because it's bigger than yours

So not true......my country is older therefore it HAS to be the best

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Talon

lmao Syko..........I so agree with u there. Isn't it amazing that an argument can be closed down in one forum just to start off where it finished in another.

Can every body please get the chips off their shoulders where their countries are concerned .............. or are we gonna see another thread descend into:

My country is the best

No my country is because it's bigger than yours

So not true......my country is older therefore it HAS to be the best

To be fair we are yet to see that arguement develope, no one has yet claimed their country is better, what does seem to be an issue now is whether the end of the US means end of the civilisation.

Personally if the US did fall (its not any time soon anyway) it would lead to massive economic crashes throughout the world. It would be tough for a while, but civilisation would pull through.

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Seraphina

My country is the best

No my country is because it's bigger than yours

So not true......my country is older therefore it HAS to be the best

I don't think that's quite the arguement...it looks more like Joc and thepsychoticseaotter arguing their perception of the place of the US in the world today, and its role in any given event, and everyone else disagreeing with them and being called racsist tongue.gif

I'm just gonna climb back up on the fence and watch though...after all, I'm a...as Joc puts it...leftist socialist fanatic...and let's not forget that left wing politics are the center of all evil in his world tongue.gif what do I know? tongue.gif It's a hypothetical situation in any event, I doubt very much the US is going anywhere.

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Talon

let's not forget that left wing politics are the center of all evil in his world

Isn't left wing politics respobsible for the voting system, freedom of speech, equal rights, protection of the worker against employer explotation, peace movements etc idea.gif

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Seraphina

Yes...and right wing politics are responsible for poll tax, concentration camps, Nazism, and Margaret Thatcher blink.gif

Be that as it may though, I'm sitting on the fence, stop talking to me tongue.gif I'll pipe up again when I'm good and ready.

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Thistle

It's a hypothetical situation in any event, I doubt very much the US is going anywhere.

Thankyou Sera notworthy.gifnotworthy.gif

At last somebody has said something sensible.

Talon..I know what u mean but the fact remains that this thread is beginning to get used as a means to carry on the same argument that was closed down on another thread...........what is the point ???????

* nudges Sera along a touch so she can sit on the fence too *

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Seraphina

* nudges Sera along a touch so she can sit on the fence too"

Watch your bum on the pickets tongue.gif

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Gazz

I can't imagine the USA ever falling!

But I do believe there will one day be

a massive terrorist attack in the USA

involving weapons of mass destruction

that will bring about the near

destruction of the US economy.

This will be seen at first as the fall

of the USA, but the later result of

this tragic event will be the fall of

the world economies!

All financal markets will fall along

with the USA! Thus the USA will still

remain the Super Power... but the

Super Power over what?

This day will come soon enough, it will

be the ultimate test of all humanity.

We are now living in the dream that was

before the fall!

Gazz

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joc

It's a hypothetical situation in any event, I doubt very much the US is going anywhere.

This is the most intelligent post yet of this thread. thumbsup.gif

Look guys. I don't think America is superior to Britain. I don't think I am

superior to you. I thought I was rather clear....we are all in this together.

It isn't me against you. It isn't the US against you all. It is us, you and me,

against them. And 'them' are very real. Osama Ben Laden is not playing

a quaint little jihad fanatic game. They are dead serious on destroying the

civilized countries of the world. It isn't Europe that is known as The Great Satan.

But you are none the less just as much a part of their goal for destruction

as we are. The terrorists believe that if they can destroy America that they

can destroy the world. I think they think that. Maybe they don't but they

certainly hate the US and they Hate Britain and the rest of Europe.

That is what I'm trying to get across to everyone. Like the Beatles said, "I am

you and you are me and we are all together" Coo coo achoo!

The terrorists want to divide and conquer. And it seems like the dividing part

is beginning to take place. We must stick together and see this thing out.

No matter where it leads. No matter who gets involved. We simply (and I mean

the US and Europe) cannot set back and hope it doesn't happen again.

AM I being any clearer? ph34r.gif

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stillcrazy

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Thistle

Watch your bum on the pickets tongue.gif

I got plenty o' padding so that's not a problem laugh.giflaugh.gif

* gets out the popcorn and awaits the fight * whistling2.gif

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Talon

But I do believe there will one day be

a massive terrorist attack in the USA

involving weapons of mass destruction

Maybe, but the moment any city is hit by a terroristic WMD (I assume we're talking about nukes) NATO would reduce the Middle East to ash. Lets assume New York is blown sky High, in the wake of some much death and the fact it could happen again does anyone not think the western world will go insane! All the countries thought to harbour these people would be nuked by every country on the planet wantting to make the first strike before the terrorists do. Doesn't stop the terrorists already here from making a counter strike, but I'm simply saying if 'Bin Liner' uses a nuke its game over for the Islamic world.

Disclaimer for PC fanatics: That does not mean I am claiming every muslim is a terrorist.

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Talon

Hey Talon any good places in you neck of the woods for a leftist republican

Does the term left and republican contradict tongue.gif

Anyway, most of the voters in Scotland are centre-left or socialist so the left wing part is fine. The Republican might suffer since Toryism is nearly extinct in this country...

...but if you want come to Paisley, only 10 minutes train ride from Glasgow it has all the comforts of a big city minus the crowds grin2.gif !

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Seraphina

*swings her feet aimlessly, before waving a hand*

Teacher! Teacher!

Doesn't stop the terrorists already here from making a counter strike, but I'm simply saying if 'Bin Liner' uses a nuke its game over for the Islamic world.

Very true...however, as we've observed, these people are not exactly prone to logical thinking tongue.gif I've no doubt that if a nuclear weapon was detonated in a western city, we'd see mass deportations, camps, and probably something not unlike what happened in that movie the Seige.

Does the term left and republican contradict

Yes...I was under the impression republicans were right wing too huh.gif

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stillcrazy

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Seraphina

But I would really like to go back to my grandfathers roots

You'll probably find them just bellow his trunk tongue.gif

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Talon

I got told in a PM that I was a leftist. I a registered republican. They throw better political parties.  (But they got to improve W/C access,,, ADA was a demo thing) 

Okay, its insanely off subject but since we seem to be in the area heres and ideology test to find out

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalc...naire.pl?page=1

I got

Economic Left/Right: -5.88

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.90

i.e. extreme left wing, moderate Libertarian

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joc

Qoute from Talon' LINK:

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

Trans-national Corporations serve humanity. The opening premise is flawed

and so the test is bogus.

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Talon

Trans-national Corporations serve humanity. The opening premise is flawed

and so the test is bogus.

Hence from that quote alone I can guess you are extreme right wing. Still I find it interesting you refuse to take the test, scared you might find out something? tongue.gif

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Seraphina

Economic Left/Right: -4.12

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.59

For the sake of arguement, I was a left wing libertarian also tongue.gif Slightly more towards the center than Talon, but not by much.

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Talon

For the sake of arguement, I was a left wing libertarian also  Slightly more towards the center than Talon, but not by much.

Which places us in completely different boxes from Hitler and Stalin... Sera! We're the good guys! thumbsup.gif

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Xenojjin

Diplomacy ( flash movie )

Nowhere to run ( flash movie )

Just a couple interesting predictions of what will happen if osama goes insane and nukes any part of the US .

Personally if the US did fall (its not any time soon anyway) it would lead to massive economic crashes throughout the world. It would be tough for a while, but civilisation would pull through.

yes , thats basically it .

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