glorybebe Posted February 15, 2008 #1 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Smokers could be forced to pay £10 for a permit to buy tobacco if a government health advisory body gets its way. No one would be able to buy cigarettes without the permit, under the idea proposed by Health for England. Its chairman, Professor Julian Le Grand, told BBC Radio 5 Live the scheme would make a big difference to the number of people giving up smoking. But smokers' rights group Forest described the idea as "outrageous", given how much tax smokers already pay. Professor Le Grand, a former adviser to ex-PM Tony Blair, said cash raised by the proposed scheme would go to the NHS. He said it was the inconvenience of getting a permit - as much as the cost - that would deter people from persisting with the smoking habit. "You've got to get a form, a complex form - the government's good at complex forms; you have got to get a photograph. "It's a little bit of a problem to actually do it, so you have got to make a conscious decision every year to opt in to being a smoker." link Yeah, great reasoning...and like someone with a license isn't going to sell the tobacco to others who don't have licenses for a profit? Come on, use some common sense here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted February 15, 2008 #2 Share Posted February 15, 2008 What the hell? The ridiculous tax charge already imposed on cigarettes isn't enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted February 15, 2008 #3 Share Posted February 15, 2008 <---smug mode, i dont smoke i dont care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted February 15, 2008 Author #4 Share Posted February 15, 2008 <---smug mode, i dont smoke i dont care I don't smoke either, but, I can see the problems with this one thing exploding into a tonne of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hissie Sola Posted February 15, 2008 #5 Share Posted February 15, 2008 What kind of nonsense is this! Actually, I can't even be surprised anymore by all the insane things the government thinks of to get people to stop smoking :angry2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelXVI Posted February 15, 2008 #6 Share Posted February 15, 2008 What kind of nonsense is this! Actually, I can't even be surprised anymore by all the insane things the government thinks of to get people to stop smoking :angry2: I don't think it has anything to do with stopping smoking.... It's more of a way to raise more money to fund social security to pay for the ones who take advantage of it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hissie Sola Posted February 15, 2008 #7 Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) I don't think it has anything to do with stopping smoking.... It's more of a way to raise more money to fund social security to pay for the ones who take advantage of it.... Well, they were talking about detering people from smoking, so that's kinda how I formed my conclusion; He said it was the inconvenience of getting a permit - as much as the cost - that would deter people from persisting with the smoking habit. But of course it is also about money. Sadly, everything is always about money. Edited February 15, 2008 by The_Scorpion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted February 15, 2008 #8 Share Posted February 15, 2008 No. I don't smoke but I think that for the most part the goverment has no right to stop other people from smoking. Not in a hospital, oh I can understand that, a restaraunt, sure, but now its going to "the sidewalk" a open public place like a park, or your own freakin car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Onyx~ Posted February 15, 2008 #9 Share Posted February 15, 2008 No. I don't smoke but I think that for the most part the goverment has no right to stop other people from smoking. Not in a hospital, oh I can understand that, a restaraunt, sure, but now its going to "the sidewalk" a open public place like a park, or your own freakin car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 15, 2008 #10 Share Posted February 15, 2008 i dont smoke, but see what happens when you let the little things with this government go, they end up pushing their luck to see how far they can go, plain and simple, we are all to blame because we put up with it, from rip off prices from petrol all the way through to toll charges on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggs Posted February 15, 2008 #11 Share Posted February 15, 2008 As long as they're proposing a similar license for Alcohol - fine. I really can't see that happening, somehow, though. Can we PLEASE have a general election, already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted February 15, 2008 #12 Share Posted February 15, 2008 As long as they're proposing a similar license for Alcohol - fine. I really can't see that happening, somehow, though. Can we PLEASE have a general election, already? so am not the only one that wants to throw someone out, i wish the Queen would dissovle parliament change prime-minister and then force a general election has soon as, surely somthing can be done, instead of us all waiting for the inevitable, time is of the essence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted February 15, 2008 #13 Share Posted February 15, 2008 As long as they're proposing a similar license for Alcohol - fine. I really can't see that happening, somehow, though. Can we PLEASE have a general election, already? Why do you want mass riots in your streets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 15, 2008 #14 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Smokers could be forced to pay £10 for a permit to buy tobacco if a government health advisory body gets its way. No one would be able to buy cigarettes without the permit, under the idea proposed by Health for England. Its chairman, Professor Julian Le Grand, told BBC Radio 5 Live the scheme would make a big difference to the number of people giving up smoking. But smokers' rights group Forest described the idea as "outrageous", given how much tax smokers already pay. Professor Le Grand, a former adviser to ex-PM Tony Blair, said cash raised by the proposed scheme would go to the NHS. He said it was the inconvenience of getting a permit - as much as the cost - that would deter people from persisting with the smoking habit. "You've got to get a form, a complex form - the government's good at complex forms; you have got to get a photograph. "It's a little bit of a problem to actually do it, so you have got to make a conscious decision every year to opt in to being a smoker." link Yeah, great reasoning...and like someone with a license isn't going to sell the tobacco to others who don't have licenses for a profit? Come on, use some common sense here! I just think its strange to have to get a license to buy tobacco just to get cancer,go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted February 15, 2008 #15 Share Posted February 15, 2008 What kind of nonsense is this! Actually, I can't even be surprised anymore by all the insane things the government thinks of to get people to stop smoking :angry2: or just to get your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcturnersr Posted February 15, 2008 #16 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Maybe they will come out with a license to buy food too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelXVI Posted February 15, 2008 #17 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Maybe they will come out with a license to buy food too! No... You'll just need one to eat it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crtDzyn Posted February 15, 2008 #18 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I love how they play it off like their intentions are simply to deter people from smoking. "Just tryin to help you quit... Now take out your ****ing checkbook." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted February 15, 2008 #19 Share Posted February 15, 2008 we said this about the congestion charge in london, still bloody happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtp Posted February 17, 2008 #20 Share Posted February 17, 2008 i dont smoke, but see what happens when you let the little things with this government go, they end up pushing their luck to see how far they can go, plain and simple, we are all to blame because we put up with it, from rip off prices from petrol all the way through to toll charges on the roads. Exactly! And they will keep pushing until the people push back! But they won,t just yet because the government starts like you say, with the little things that they have already convinced with P.C. and propaganda, is stepping on good citizens rights! And when they have blinded everyone alot with all that P.C. crap and selfrighteous bull. look out and get ready to say good by to everything you have now! And don,t think they won,t find a scape goat to point the finger at when the time comes, and it just might and very probably be the unsuspecting good citizens! And pushing back then won,t help,cause it will take all out war or nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySummerJob Posted February 17, 2008 #21 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I don't give a damn, just as long it helps prevents me from getting cancer by 2nd hand smoke =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grither Posted February 17, 2008 #22 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I agree with the above poster I don't give a damn I detest smoking the apartment i moved into stunk of it until the carpet was cleaned and I bought a air cleaner it still smells a bit though. I don't feel sorry for smokers I mean it's very hard to quit but I lose sympathy for them when I have to breathe it in giving me a sore throat and trouble breathing for the next 5-8 hours. I have asthma too so really I don't feel for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mademoiselle Posted February 17, 2008 #23 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Totally stupid . I am glad I don't live there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativechick1989 Posted February 18, 2008 #24 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Probably won't make any difference, ppl will smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamiJo1408 Posted February 18, 2008 #25 Share Posted February 18, 2008 hahaha I feel bad for my cousin if there is going to be a licence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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