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LadyHay

My mention of CS Lewis wasn't based on MY knowledge of the man, but just what some say of his books. But ya, good and interesting points everyone.

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Cradle of Fish

I'd rather my kids learn their morals from Harry Potter than the bible. HP has more of a "be good because it's the right thing to do" message instead of "be good because god will punish you if you're not".

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xXkyo_rejectXx

after seeing this...i thought this was just a horrible way to "recerut" people to become Christians and satanist say white magic is the same as black magic just because they believe in all weird stuff. but this video puts wicca to a bad name wicca is not satanism etc.

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Disney Priestess

You're like my grandma. She calls me a 'demon child' just because I'm atheist, even though I'm old enough to run her over with my awesome set of wheels. And my 666 numberplate. =_=;

I'm not going to watch that video, 1. Because it will slow down my RuneScape play, and 2. Because I think it would be a waste of time.

If anything encourages kids/teens to turn to Wicca, it's Charmed. Heh. ;P -hides box sets-

The kids have probably never heard of the word 'Wicca'.

"The Harry Potter series taught me that magic is real."

Ehm. Who says it's not? Perhaps not Alohamora, Wingardium Levoisa magic, but we certainly have a fair amount of believers on this forum. And I agree with previous posters - Wicca isn't all bad. Devout, uber-paranoid Christians and/or Catholics probably get a reaction similiar to "Burn them, BURN THEM ALL!" when they hear about this stuff.

.. What a load of crap.

*brick'd for plagiarism*

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Tommyo
You're like my grandma. She calls me a 'demon child' just because I'm atheist, even though I'm old enough to run her over with my awesome set of wheels. And my 666 numberplate. =_=;

I'm not going to watch that video, 1. Because it will slow down my RuneScape play, and 2. Because I think it would be a waste of time.

If anything encourages kids/teens to turn to Wicca, it's Charmed. Heh. ;P -hides box sets-

The kids have probably never heard of the word 'Wicca'.

Ehm. Who says it's not? Perhaps not Alohamora, Wingardium Levoisa magic, but we certainly have a fair amount of believers on this forum. And I agree with previous posters - Wicca isn't all bad. Devout, uber-paranoid Christians and/or Catholics probably get a reaction similiar to "Burn them, BURN THEM ALL!" when they hear about this stuff.

.. What a load of crap.

*brick'd for plagiarism*

first off, magic isn't real at all, other than making you think you have some false sense of control within your own created reality. Second off, on defense of religion, there are many many people out there that are not zelots. Only a few that are really load at what they say, and get the attention from their skewed views. Just like rabid anti-christians out there.

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Disney Priestess
first off, magic isn't real at all, other than making you think you have some false sense of control within your own created reality. Second off, on defense of religion, there are many many people out there that are not zelots. Only a few that are really load at what they say, and get the attention from their skewed views. Just like rabid anti-christians out there.

Not to turn this into a debate, but the supernatural would be called 'magic' by young children, wouldn't it? And on defense of.. ME (xD), I'm not an anti-Christian for the record, I just decided to take a neutral path ever since I learned to read and actually understand my family's religious views. My father's Buddhist and my mother's side is Christian, so I have an open mind for both views.

BUT, this is about Harry Potter being a Nazi, isn't it? ;P

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Odd Christian

To those who believe HP is a way to recruit kids into magic, I would like to ask HOW?

In the book, those who have the ability to do magic, are born that way, and have to have at least one parent that can do so. That pretty much tells any kid that might believe the story could be true, that unless mom and/or dad can do magic, then they won't be able to either. You can stick whatever you like inside a stick, wave it around and say latin sounding words all you like, and nothing is going to happen. The closest thing to any real magic is the potions, which is just a mixing of various herbs.(chemistry)

I enjoyed all the books and the movies. (tho the last movie seemed a bit....hurried)

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Walter Sullivan

I always noticed when ever Fundies (or Pagan-haters as I call them) complain about stuff like this, I find they can't read.

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chrisfreak

I'm not surprised. I even read a Catholic magazine (which was intended for kids) that forbid their readers to read mangas or watch cartoon/anime such as Dragonball or Sailormoon

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Purplos
I always noticed when ever Fundies (or Pagan-haters as I call them) complain about stuff like this, I find they can't read.

Yay! It's so true, isn't it?

Categorizing things by type into 'good' and 'evil' boxes releases them from any responsibility to educate themselves.

You pagans want to recruit my children with wand-waving and make-believe characters? You go right ahead. :)

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glorybebe
Yay! It's so true, isn't it?

Categorizing things by type into 'good' and 'evil' boxes releases them from any responsibility to educate themselves.

You pagans want to recruit my children with wand-waving and make-believe characters? You go right ahead. :)

Do you know how many people who have run down the Hp books and movies have never read or watched them? It is all on hearsay from someone else? I can't understand how someone can call down a story that they haven't a clue as to what it is all about. It's pretty sad. :no:

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Wolf MacCanine
Do you know how many people who have run down the Hp books and movies have never read or watched them? It is all on hearsay from someone else? I can't understand how someone can call down a story that they haven't a clue as to what it is all about. It's pretty sad. :no:

Because they're morons. :wacko:

Last year there was a thread here on UM that was about a mom who was attempting to get the HP books banned from the local schools.She failed,of course,and had mentioned that she had never read the books herself.Instead,she relied upon information given to her by someone else (probably her charismatic Fundie leader)...information which was completely wrong.

This is why I always tell people that they should look into things for themselves and not to trust anything blindly.

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~sYMBIONt~

Okay, for the supposed letters from children, most of them said something like "I wish I could go to wizards school so i could learn magic!" not "I wanna learn magic so I can curse everyone and worship satan."

And about the 13 year-old who said it was "cool" when Voldemort killed the unicorn and drank its blood. I am also 13 and though "cool" wasn't the word I used to describe that scene (only because I don't like animals being killed), I am into gore and things like that. You have to understand that 13 IS a teenager, and we like those kinds of things. Probably about 90% of the guys and 30% of the girls I know that are my age would think that that scene is "cool".

And I have read much darker children's books. "Firewing" by Kenneth Oppel is about a bat who gets sucked into the underworld, where he is being hunted down by this other bat, who plans to take his life and give it to this death god, so he can merge the two worlds of the living and dead and rule them both, not to mention punish all humans, who have stopped worshiping him (he is based off an ancient Aztec god)

In the end the bat makes it home but the other bat makes it back to the world of the living and plans to make a group of followers and gather 100 live sacrifices to kill on a solar eclipse, then the god will rise and merge the two worlds and rule as originally planned.

Even though its really dark, it's still one of my favorite books and not just for kids.

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Goblin-5
Okay, for the supposed letters from children, most of them said something like "I wish I could go to wizards school so i could learn magic!" not "I wanna learn magic so I can curse everyone and worship satan."

Seeing that kids nowadays have the attention span of a headless cockroach, how would they be expected to learn magic which takes time, effort and patience? Naw, I think the HP books are simply Tom Brown with a bit of magic thrown in and set ion modern times. A good read but not exactly true to the practice of magic

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saturnian flame
Did you know that Harry Potter was officially sanctioned as good family entertainment suitable for Catholics by the Pope. THE POPE...are you going to sit there and tell me some conspiracy theorists know more about the religious implications of a film than the freakin' pope?!?

(puts on his tin foil hat)

:tsu:

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Cradle of Fish
I always noticed when ever Fundies (or Pagan-haters as I call them) complain about stuff like this, I find they can't read.

It really isn't that different from the Satanic Verses controversy, when Ayatollah Khomeini put out a fatwa calling for the death of Salman Rushdie, over a book he probably couldn't read even if he wanted to.

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667-Neighbor of the Beast

This all reminds me of a situation I had when I was growing up. We had a family a couple of houses down from me who's church were all religious extremests. None of them beleived in owning televisions, radios, mirrors, or even books that were written for entertainment, only education. All this was back in the early to mid 80's

Anyway, one of the people in their church dreamt that they died, went to hell, and while there, saw the outline of a Smurf(yep, you read that correctly). So, everyone in the church, including my neighbors, took a heavy stance on the beleif that Smurfs were evil, and were a symbol of satan, therefore, anyone who watched the show was a satan worshipper. They wouldn't let their childre play with any of the kids in the neighborhood, because they all liked the Smurfs.

Now, the irony is, that a group of religious people beleive that a TV show is based in satanism, when none of them are allowed to own TV's, so could not watch the show. They were making wild assumptions about something they knew absolutely nothing about.

Which seems to be what the people in the video, and obviously the poster, are doing. People need to educate themselves about something before making judgements on it, otherwise your just making uneducated, ignorant, assupmtions that are not based in fact or reality.

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vallhalla
My guess is that most people on this forum have either read some of the Harry Potter books or have seen some of the Harry Potter movies, or you have children who are very much into these things.

If so, this is a YouTube video that you have GOT to see:

Most people think that Harry Potter is a safe, fun, fantasy world that is great entertainment for our children, but as the film shockingly shows, that is not the case at all.

Did you know that the Harry Potter series describes witchcraft and the Occult with amazing precision and accuracy?

Did you know that the Harry Potter series is doing an amazing job of recriting our children into Occult religions?

One of the most stunning things in the film is the way that children describe the impact that Harry Potter has had on them. What the children have to say about Harry Potter will blow your mind.

Trust me, you will never look at Harry Potter the same way again.

So what do you all think? After learning the things in the YouTube clip I know my outlook is different. Do the rest of you still think Harry Potter is a good thing for our society?

What are you doing here????

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darkmoonlady
This all reminds me of a situation I had when I was growing up. We had a family a couple of houses down from me who's church were all religious extremests. None of them beleived in owning televisions, radios, mirrors, or even books that were written for entertainment, only education. All this was back in the early to mid 80's

Anyway, one of the people in their church dreamt that they died, went to hell, and while there, saw the outline of a Smurf(yep, you read that correctly). So, everyone in the church, including my neighbors, took a heavy stance on the beleif that Smurfs were evil, and were a symbol of satan, therefore, anyone who watched the show was a satan worshipper. They wouldn't let their childre play with any of the kids in the neighborhood, because they all liked the Smurfs.

Now, the irony is, that a group of religious people beleive that a TV show is based in satanism, when none of them are allowed to own TV's, so could not watch the show. They were making wild assumptions about something they knew absolutely nothing about.

Which seems to be what the people in the video, and obviously the poster, are doing. People need to educate themselves about something before making judgements on it, otherwise your just making uneducated, ignorant, assupmtions that are not based in fact or reality.

Oh my that made me spit tea over my desk. Hail the mighty evil Papa Smurf, and his demon temptress the girl smurf I can't remember the name of..hehe

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Drayno

That is from the link Fylgia posted....

As most Christians already know, the Harry Potter book series is the most evil and dangerous set of books to be released this century. "The Potter series is worse than pornography. The books are even more dangerous than the Satanic Bible," reports Pastor Deacon Fred, "At least with the Satanic Bible, young people know that the book was written by Satan. The Devil just changed his name to J.K. Rowling this time." The release of the fifth book in the Harry Potter series has been delayed because Christians have been praying to God that he will send angels to scramble Satan's brain and force him to admit Rowling's spent body to a mental hospital so that the whole series will never be completed.

Ermm.. I have no problem with Christianity at all. But are these people r******ed?

Wow - I am completely blown away by the amount of idiocy composed together in that very large Super-Christian paragraph. Lawl, they rather have their children watch 2girls1cup than read a sentence from Harry Potter. It is good to have faith - yes. It is good to believe in what you want - but you should respect other peoples beliefs as well - yes. It is good to claim a potential connection between the forces of Satan and book series meant for pure entertainment - did you get dropped on your head? In all honesty...I am laughing hysterically. Screw Comedy Central! If I need a good laugh I will simply find the book , "Super-Christian Followers and the ignorant crackpot theories of Harry Satan".

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Ermm.. I have no problem with Christianity at all. But are these people r******ed?

Wow - I am completely blown away by the amount of idiocy composed together in that very large Super-Christian paragraph. Lawl, they rather have their children watch 2girls1cup than read a sentence from Harry Potter. It is good to have faith - yes. It is good to believe in what you want - but you should respect other peoples beliefs as well - yes. It is good to claim a potential connection between the forces of Satan and book series meant for pure entertainment - did you get dropped on your head? In all honesty...I am laughing hysterically. Screw Comedy Central! If I need a good laugh I will simply find the book , "Super-Christian Followers and the ignorant crackpot theories of Harry Satan".

Lol. At first I agreed with you... but then I read it again and saw 'Pastor Deacon Fred'....

The whole thing is making fun of Fundamentalist Christians. Pastor Deacon Fred is like one of the top honchos at Landover Baptist, a site which Completely makes fun of Conservative Christianity.

Seriously though, the whole "LOL Harry Potter is EVIL'" thing makes no sense. I mean, think of all the other movies, books, literature, music that has witchcraft, wizardry, etc. This encompasses a ton of Children's books today.

Personally, I just think the ChristoFascists are worried HarryPotter will outsell their silly book of myths. :rolleyes:

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SilverCougar

Gods if this was true... imagine all the cash I'd save being able to magic things up. Oooh boy. XD

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privy_princess

Well, I've read some of the books and am a fan of the movies, but I will be honest and say that I'm fairly certain there is esoteric knowledge within the story. You just have to know what to look for. For instance, the deal with magical bloodlines. Yes, there are actually families that consider themselves descendants of witches and wizards, ancient hidden knowledge and such. Also, look at the names of most of the Black family members: all astrological. And what about the viel? Read your Old Testament.

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samyo

i hate harry potter its a joke

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