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With the emergence of quantum mechanics, scientists have discovered that although electrons can be individually observed, they seem to interact with micro-particles at remote distances. Furthermore, they have the ability to simultaneously permeate everywhere, like water waves. Such a strange phenomenon has perplexed many scientists. These scientists, however, have stopped thinking about versatile electrons due to the successful application of quantum mechanics—something that has led the scientific mainstream to accept these phenomena. When today’s students study science, they are studying it as though there’s only one theorem: “It exists as such.” Only a very few scientists have thought about other issues. Among them, Einstein wondered what the world described by the formula of quantum mechanics would be like.

In 1957, a Ph.D. student first proposed what was later to be called the Theory of Many Worlds. His hypothesis stated that an electron actually coexists in many different worlds, and that we have only observed the electron’s manifestation is this world. At that time, the idea received little receptivity. Fortunately, a Nobel laureate supported the idea and helping it to spread afterwards. The laureate even helped the student further understand the theory.

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/jun/cover...t:int=1&-C=

Then in 1909 a young British physicist named Geoffrey Ingram Taylor actually ran the experiment and witnessed the bizarre result. As the photons accumulate on the film, the same old interference pattern of alternating bright and dark stripes gradually appears, defying common sense. In this case, there is only one thing each photon can interact with—itself. The only way this pattern could form is if each photon passes through both slits at once and then interferes with its alternate self. It is as if a moviegoer exited a theater and found that his location on the sidewalk was determined by another version of himself that had left through a different exit and shoved him on the way out.

Since then, other researchers have repeated the experiment with electrons, atoms, even with relatively bulky molecules containing as many as 70 carbon atoms. The results never vary. Individual atoms and molecules go through both slits at once. Yet for some reason the laws of physics take away that ability for large objects like paper clips, people, and planets. “Something has got to go wrong with quantum mechanics somewhere,” Penrose says. “I regard this as a major problem that is going to require another revolution. But rather few people seem to agree with this viewpoint.”

When pressed, quantum theorists usually fall back on what is known as the Copenhagen interpretation.

The flaw in the Copenhagen interpretation is that it has no basis in theory—it is more like a story that scientists tell to make sense of facts that otherwise would seem nonsensical. It also suggests that the universe does not become fully real until someone observes it. Einstein found this idea abhorrent. “I like to think that the moon is there even if I am not looking at it,” he fumed in response to Bohr. Nevertheless, the Copenhagen interpretation was voted the preferred explanation of quantum weirdness by physicists at a conference in 1997.

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HUGH EVERETT, III

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Quantum theory was developed near the turn of the century and it wasn’t until 1957 that all the possibilities within each quantum wave led a young graduate student of physics named Hugh Everett III to produce the now famous Many-Worlds Theory as his doctorate thesis. Everett was a student of John Archibald Wheeler, the renowned American physicist and longtime Professor at Princeton. The Many-Worlds Theory makes the simple conclusion that one probabilistic outcome is as real as any other, predicting an immense surplus of many-worlds branch away from each moment of now.

THE EVERETT FAQ

http://www.hedweb.com/everett/everett.htm

Q15 Where are the other worlds?

Non-relativistic quantum mechanics and quantum field theory are quite unambiguous: the other Everett-worlds occupy the same space and time as we do.

The implicit question is really, why aren't we aware of these other worlds, unless they exist "somewhere" else? To see why we aren't aware of the other worlds, despite occupying the same space-time, see "Why do I only ever experience one world?" Some popular accounts describe the other worlds as splitting off into other, orthogonal, dimensions. These dimensions are the dimensions of Hilbert space, not the more familiar space-time dimensions.

The situation is more complicated, as we might expect, in theories of quantum gravity (See "What about quantum gravity?"), because gravity can be viewed as perturbations in the space-time metric. If we take a geometric interpretation of gravity then we can regard differently curved space-times, each with their own distinct thermodynamic history, as non-coeval. In that sense we only share the same space-time manifold with other worlds with a (macroscopically) similar mass distribution. Whenever the amplification of a quantum-scale interaction effects the mass distribution and hence space-time curvature the resultant decoherence can be regarded as splitting the local space-time manifold into discrete sheets.

Q22 Does many-worlds violate conservation of energy?

First, the law conservation of energy is based on observations within each world. All observations within each world are consistent with conservation of energy, therefore energy is conserved.

Second, and more precisely, conservation of energy, in QM, is formulated in terms of weighted averages or expectation values. Conservation of energy is expressed by saying that the time derivative of the expected energy of a closed system vanishes. This statement can be scaled up to include the whole universe. Each world has an approximate energy, but the energy of the total wavefunction, or any subset of, involves summing over each world, weighted with its probability measure. This weighted sum is a constant. So energy is conserved within each world and also across the totality of worlds.

One way of viewing this result - that observed conserved quantities are conserved across the totality of worlds - is to note that new worlds are not created by the action of the wave equation, rather existing worlds are split into successively "thinner" and "thinner" slices, if we view the probability densities as "thickness".

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Since mankind was created to perceive all dimensions simultaneously in a balanced and unified way, they have the power to 'focus' or 'tune-in' on one particular aspect, facet or spectrum of reality over all others. The danger in this is that the more one focuses on one facet-dimension of reality the less he or she is able to perceive-discern the others. In other words the more 'room' that one makes in their perceptions for a particular facet of reality, the less 'room' there will be to develop and maintain perceptions of the other aspects of reality. This is why it is good to have a 'balanced' perception.

One good example of this would be those who are born blind (being deprived of perceiving the dimension of light) and as a result are usually highly developed in the hearing/sound/touch senses, which attempt to make-up for the lack of sight perception. Most blind people, nevertheless, would probably rather have their eyesight if given the chance, since they are nevertheless being deprived of fully perceiving and enjoying one acet-dimension of reality.

Being multi-dimensional beings, we possess specific sensory organs which allow us to perceive different 'dimensions' or facets of reality. For instance here are some distinct 'dimensions' which are part of the one electromagnetic reality - spectrum, as described by researcher John A. Keel: LIGHT-COLOR DIMENSION (Infrared-heat, Red, Yellow, Green, Cyan, Blue, Violet, Ultraviolet); LOWER ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM-DIMENSION (Kilocycles, Megacycles, Electricity, Audio spectrum, VLF Radio, LF Radio, High Frequency Radio); MIDDLE ELECTROMAGNETIC DIMENSION (Kilometers, Microwaves, Super-heat, Very-High-Frequency Radio,Ultra-High-Frequency Radio); UPPER ELECTROMAGNETIC DIMENSION (X-Rays, Gamma Rays, Cosmic Rays); AUDIO-SOUND DIMENSION (Infrasonic, Bass, Treble, Ultrasonic, Very-Low Frequency or

VLF); SUPERSPECTRUM DIMENSION (Gravity waves and fields, Magnetic fields, Black Streams, Thought-waves, Super Energies, etc.).

As one can see, this is a BASIC outline of the various 'dimensional frequencies' which make up the one electromagnetic reality, and all of these in turn break down into seemingly infinite and finer frequencies as in a Radio's AM-FM and other bands and even finer facets of these.

If it were possible for someone to enter and 'inhabit' one of these particular energy-dimensions via molecular energizing, then it would only be logical to assume that they would only have power to operate within that dimension. One can only operate and influence the 'world' in which they find themselves. If someone were capable of PHYSICALLY generating or 'phasing' themselves

into the 'etheric' or non-physical dimension for instance then they must as a result give up the control and power which they formerly held to influence the physical-material dimension, other than perhaps influencing to some extent the spirit-etheric body of a human being. A non-solid entity usually would not possess the ability to lift physical objects unless they were at least 'partially' material. The accounts of 'poltergeists' would suggest the activity of entities, whether human, animal or angelic (usually infernal rather than paradisial) which have manifested in para-physical or partially-physical form whether through 'tapping off' from the bio-energies of a human being, anelectrical or some other MATERIAL or semi-material energy source.

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Astral Projection

From Jerry Gross

The Doorway to a New Dimension

The concept of astral projection has been around for a long time, but until today, it has been hidden from most of humanity. Now, with the aid of astral projection, new levels of knowledge and power enable us to discover the answer to Man's eternal question about life in the physical body. Death takes on a new meaning as we begin to realize that it is only a transition to another dimension, or place of existence. By learning to astral project, we can learn many things about ourselves, and unlearn many things that were previously thought to be true. This leads us to the realization that our physical bodies are only a part of our entire selves, and there is more to our existence than meets the eye!

In our limited awareness, the reality we live and breathe on earth, with its beautiful landscapes, mountains, rivers, streams, animals and insects, can be compared with the petals on a flower. What we see is not the whole flower, but only a part. This is because man has lost touch with the use of his own mind. He concludes, erroneously, that the physical world is the only reality there is. He believes that his life as an individual has only to do with the flesh body of himself, and concludes that the physical world is solid and real because his senses tell him it "feels" solid and real. The mind has abilities that go beyond the five senses of the physical world. The petal of the flower that we now experience is the material world or physical plane of existence. It has a specific vibration, just as all creatures on this level vibrate at the same rate. Because of this, regardless of where we go on this level, all things take on the appearance of being solid, material objects. Just as the colors of the rainbow show the effects of the different vibrations of light, and the melodies on the piano show the effect of the different notes, so, too, does the entire universe contain various octaves, or rates of vibration. These universal harmonics comprise the different levels of existence.

So the earth plane we live on is only one of many dimensions. There are other spheres that we describe as being above or below us. Actually, they are not really above or below us, but rather at all times around us, permeating all things. Astral projection allows us to discover that the people and objects existing on these other realms can be just as solid and real as any object on the earth terrain. And if we happened to be in another level, looking back "down" into this region, we would view an earth that was not solid. Right now, at every instant, we are living, coexisting with, and walking through people and objects of another dimension! When a person astral projects, he or she can see these other frontiers. When we were born into this physical world, we were provided with a physical body to carry out our duties. Astral projection allows us to project "out of the body" and into the next plane of existence, which is the astral plane.

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In our limited awareness, the reality we live and breathe on earth, with its beautiful landscapes, mountains, rivers, streams, animals and insects, can be compared with the petals on a flower. What we see is not the whole flower, but only a part. This is because man has lost touch with the use of his own mind. He concludes, erroneously, that the physical world is the only reality there is. He believes that his life as an individual has only to do with the flesh body of himself, and concludes that the physical world is solid and real because his senses tell him it "feels" solid and real. The mind has abilities that go beyond the five senses of the physical world.

what proof is there of this other than someones say so that he can astral project ?

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what proof is there of this other than someones say so that he can astral project ?

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There is remote viewing...

http://astral-projection.mind-sync.com/lin...oteviewing.html

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos186.htm

http://www.paganspath.com/meta/obe-apt.htm

OBE's...

and maybe another form of this ..of projecting into the future...like s when you may have experienced having a dream about visiting a place...and then sometime later you visit the very same house and know where everything is.... or get the deja vu... know what is going to happen next as you have dreamed it..or have memories of this all having happened before...

http://www.slate.com/id/2172694/fr/flyout

Two teams of neuroscientists have made a breakthrough in the study of "out-of-body experiences," according to this week's issue of Science. About one in 10 people report having had the strange sensation of floating away from their bodies at some point in their lives. According to the new studies, it's now possible to induce that feeling of astral projection in the lab.

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There is remote viewing...

and maybe another form of this ..of projecting into the future...like s when you may have experienced having a dream about visiting a place...and then sometime later you visit the very same house and know where everything is.... or get the deja vu... know what is going to happen next as you have dreamed it..or have memories of this all having happened before...

all these webbys u cite here are just examples of the process, not proof of what is actually being done. it's like saying America exists just because an airplane can fly.

sorry, but the ability to astral project does not prove that it is another dimension or separate reality from the world or universe that is being seen/experienced. remote viewing in particular is even stated to operate in this world !!

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There is a lot of astral interdimensional..outerdimensional work .. done in shamanism... but.. I gather it is hard to prove other than having experienced it yourself..

http://www.williamjames.com/Folklore/ASTRAL.htm

Astral Projection and Out-Of-Body Experiences

According to tradition, shamans are individuals who, by definition, have overcome the common perceptual mindset of space-time conditioning. Space for them no longer exists. It is sufficient for them to intensify the sharpness of their interior sight and the intensity of their interior light to be able to penetrate everything. We read in traditional texts and in reports of scholars that shamans bilocate themselves, that they move in space, can go far and return in an instant, that they are clairvoyant, besides being therapists and magicians.

Certain shamanistic conceptions suggest that our past thoughts and our mind have never left our body, for the simple fact that they have always been outside our body and our brain. They do not need to emerge from inside, because they have never been inside. The shamanistic initiation makes the trainee simply aware that mind and consciousness are outside and above, and they have always been so. The initiation practices reawaken a corresponding state of consciousness, that gives the living awareness of this vision.

The shamanistic conceptions and the converging descriptions of out of body experiences coincide with the notion that mind and consciousness are a prius in respect of the brain and the body -- in other words, that brain and body evolve out of consciousness.

Astral projection is one of the most salient features of the mystical tradition underlying most of the major religions. In fact, anthropologists have found that OBE beliefs appear in about 95 percent of the world's cultures.

The idea that consciousness can function independently of and outside of the physical body is found in Egyptian manuscripts that delve in detail into the nature of the ka, or double that can separate from the physical body and travel at will.

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Some out-of-body experiencers describe the sensation of possessing and, in some instances, simultaneously occupying a multiple number of "bodies" at varying locations, sometimes in conjunction with the sense of being disembodied. A variant of this experience, during which subjects seem to shift awareness alternately between two or more locations. Researchers tend to think that, if the phenomenology of this experience is to be taken at face value, it could possible be modelled by a hyperdimensional view of consciousness

Perhaps the most interesting question posed with regard to out-of-body experience is that suggested by British psychologist Susan Blackmore, who asks how "the human information processing system construct the illusion of a separate self in the first place."

http://www.goddessvision.net/sjourney.htm

Soul Retrieval and Healing

Lin can help you build a

strong personal foundation

using this technique

A shaman becomes a master at "seeing" in the other worlds, as well as moving in and out of other worlds at will. The shaman is also skilled in visualization and maintaining a level of consciousness while in other worlds.

Healing or Counseling is accomplished in one of three ways:

1. The shaman "sees" an etheric attachment to the person being worked with and proceeds to remove it through methods involving the other world. Sometimes this is called extraction.

2. The shaman "sees" a disturbed part of the luminous fibers (aura) and proceeds to balance them out by a variety of techniques.

3. The shaman "sees" part of the entity is fragmented or lost. The shaman then proceeds with a soul retrieval to reunite with the lost part. Most often this lost or fragmented part takes the form of an animal which is then united with the host in a special ceremony.

Healing can either be physical or mental. Frequently both, as our thoughts rule who and what we are and emotions generated by our thoughts work directly on the etheric or luminous body.

http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v397...0397-000201.htm

The Astral Body, Astral Travel and the Dream Body

http://www.dreamhawk.com/astra.htm

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Yoga teachers suggest that the pineal gland (which they call the 'third eye' or 'eye of wisdom') is significant in the process of becoming 'aware', for it is the ultimate source of the Light. Illuminists and other Rosicrucian adepts have long referred to the pineal as the secret ayin - an ancient word for 'eye'. This spelling (a-y-i-n) is actually quite important because the original spelling of Cain (whether with a 'C', a 'K' or a 'Q') was not 'C-a-i-n' as we now know it, but 'C-a-y-i-n'. The name Cain, in its various forms, actually denoted One of the Inner Eye. Hence, from Kayin with a 'K' derived the word 'King', and from Qayin with a 'Q' derived the word 'Queen'. Indeed, Cain's father Enki-Samael was himself the Sumerians' designated Lord of the Sacred Eye.

It is said that a truly spiritual person can automatically perceive with the third eye (the subtle eye of insight), rather than be duped by mundane eyes which reveal only physical presences. Such presences are defined by their place within arbitrary time; but to pineal graduates there is no time to calculate, for they live in a dimension where time and space are of no consequence. This dimension is not a new discovery of modern science: it was known about thousands of years ago as the Plane of Sharon, the Plane of the Orbit of Light.

Gold is the most noble of metals, and gold was always representative of Truth. Through the regular use of Anunnaki Star Fire (the Gold of the Gods), the recipients were moved into realms of heightened awareness and consciousness because of its inherent melatonin and serotonin. This was the realm of advanced enlightenment - the Plane of Sharon - and the Star Fire gold was deemed to be the ultimate route to the Light. Hence, the heavy, mundane person (lead) could be elevated to a heightened state of awareness (perceived as gold). This was the root of all alchemical lore thereafter.

The shewbread (or, as the Egyptians called it, scheffa food) was a traditional entitlement of the Israelite and Egyptian Messiahs, for the early Pharaohs were themselves fully consecrated Priest-Kings of the Grail Bloodline, having descended through Nimrod in the Cainite succession.

In ancient Egypt, the scheffa food was always depicted as a conical cake. According to the records, this metallic bread was used to feed the Light-body, as against the physical body, and the Light-body was deemed to be the consciousness. As far back as 2200 BC, the Pharaohs were using this supplement to enhance their pituitary and pineal activity, thereby to heighten their perception, awareness and intuition, but only the metallurgical adepts of the mystery schools (the Master Craftsmen of the Dragon Court) knew the secret of its manufacture.

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Temples can also be time machines, allowing for interdimensional travel, ...... to which the shewbread lifted these beings was called the Plane of Sharon, ...

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A Gnostic document, found at Chenoboskion in Egypt and known as The Treatise of Hermes Trimistegus states: “It is thus by degrees that the adepts will enter into the way of immortality, and will attain to a conception of the Ogdoad, which in turn reveals the Ennead.”

Just as Noah saved various life forms from the Great Flood, so Lamech’s three sons, Jabal, Jubal and Tubal-Cain, are said to have preserved the ancient wisdoms of creative science, carved upon two stone monuments –the ‘Antediluvian Pillars’—antediluvian meaning ‘prior to the flood.’ One son was a mathematician, the second a mason, and the third a metalworker. Surviving the Great Flood by returning to his home planet, Hermes later returned in the time of Egypt as Thoth, the thrice-risen Master. It was Thoth who was said to have transcribed this sacred knowledge onto emerald tablets that were later inherited by no less a figure than Pythagoras.

If all the inventors, scientists and mathematicians we have looked up to throughout history did not exactly come by their wisdom wholly on their own, you will be able to understand what a lie the history is that we have been taught since our childhoods.

Our history is all one big repetition over and over again. And varies little from one country and one culture to the next. The Maya also had the same goddess Maya, mother of the gods and man, as in India. The veil of illusion said to be pulled over our eyes and that separates the dimensions is termed the Veil of Maya –because they knew how man could be trapped in Time.

The association of the sacred knowledge of the cosmos with an emerald tablet is also reminiscent of Wolfram von Eschenbach’s Parzival, the legend of the Holy Grail, in which the Grail is identified as a stone and likened to ‘an emerald jewel.’ Moreover an inscription from the emerald tablet of Hermes appears on some Temperance Tarot cards: ‘Visit the interior parts of the earth; by rectification thou shalt find the hidden stone.’

The Ogdoad (eightfold) corresponds to the heavens of the stars outside the individual heavens of the planets, and the Ennead (ninefold) refers to the greater outer heaven of the universe. The separate heaven of Earth itself was called the Hebdomad (sevenfold). Here the teachings are referring to the different levels of heaven as referred to in the Bible, the various different dimensions we have already talked about.

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crystal, whilst the Many-Worlds Theory IS appropriate for the Science & Technology forum discussion of astral travel isn't. You have taken your own thread somewhat off topic. The Metaphysics, Astrology & Psychic Phenomena forum is more appropriate for discussion of this paranormal phenomena.

If you wish to discuss the scientific aspects of the Multi-World Theory then fine this can stay here. If on the other hand what you really want to discuss is Astral Travel then PM a moderator and this topic can be moved to the correct forum. If you wish to do both then it may be possible to separate this jumble of cut and pate posts of yours into two threads and have 2 discussions, both of which are in the correct forum.

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Scientists predict how to detect a fourth dimension of space

DURHAM, N.C. -- Scientists at Duke and Rutgers universities have developed a mathematical framework they say will enable astronomers to test a new five-dimensional theory of gravity that competes with Einstein's General Theory of Relativity.

Charles R. Keeton of Rutgers and Arlie O. Petters of Duke base their work on a recent theory called the type II Randall-Sundrum braneworld gravity model. The theory holds that the visible universe is a membrane (hence "braneworld") embedded within a larger universe, much like a strand of filmy seaweed floating in the ocean. The "braneworld universe" has five dimensions -- four spatial dimensions plus time -- compared with the four dimensions -- three spatial, plus time -- laid out in the General Theory of Relativity.

The framework Keeton and Petters developed predicts certain cosmological effects that, if observed, should help scientists validate the braneworld theory. The observations, they said, should be possible with satellites scheduled to launch in the next few years.

If the braneworld theory proves to be true, "this would upset the applecart," Petters said. "It would confirm that there is a fourth dimension to space, which would create a philosophical shift in our understanding of the natural world."

As the name suggests, dark matter does not emit or reflect light, but does exert a gravitational force.

The General Theory of Relativity, on the other hand, predicts that such primordial black holes no longer exist, as they would have evaporated by now.

"When we estimated how far braneworld black holes might be from Earth, we were surprised to find that the nearest ones would lie well inside Pluto's orbit," Keeton said.

Petters added, "If braneworld black holes form even 1 percent of the dark matter in our part of the galaxy -- a cautious assumption -- there should be several thousand braneworld black holes in our solar system."

But do braneworld black holes really exist -- and therefore stand as evidence for the 5-D braneworld theory?

The scientists showed that it should be possible to answer this question by observing the effects that braneworld black holes would exert on electromagnetic radiation traveling to Earth from other galaxies. Any such radiation passing near a black hole will be acted upon by the object's tremendous gravitational forces -- an effect called "gravitational lensing."

"We discovered that the signature of a fourth dimension of space appears in the interference patterns," Petters said. "This extra spatial dimension creates a contraction between the fringes compared to what you'd get in General Relativity."

"If the braneworld theory is correct," they said, "there should be many, many more braneworld black holes throughout the universe, each carrying the signature of a fourth dimension of space."

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http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

Burdett added: "Gravity—which is taught to our children as a law—is founded on great gaps in understanding. The laws predict the mutual force between all bodies of mass, but they cannot explain that force. Isaac Newton himself said, 'I suspect that my theories may all depend upon a force for which philosophers have searched all of nature in vain.' Of course, he is alluding to a higher power."

Proponents of Intelligent Falling assert that the different theories used by secular physicists to explain gravity are not internally consistent. Even critics of Intelligent Falling admit that Einstein's ideas about gravity are mathematically irreconcilable with quantum mechanics. This fact, Intelligent Falling proponents say, proves that gravity is a theory in crisis.

"Let's take a look at the evidence," said ECFR senior fellow Gregory Lunsden."In Matthew 15:14, Jesus says, 'And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.' He says nothing about some gravity making them fall—just that they will fall. Then, in Job 5:7, we read, 'But mankind is born to trouble, as surely as sparks fly upwards.' If gravity is pulling everything down, why do the sparks fly upwards with great surety? This clearly indicates that a conscious intelligence governs all falling."

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/gravity.htm

Does Gravity Push, or does Gravity Pull ?

Faithful readers of SCIENCE and MATH WEEKLY know a great deal about the big new experimental push against the mysteries of gravity. They also know that there was practically no serious experimentation between Newton and the present day. Results have come sooner than anyone expected. Last January Dr. R.H. Dicke of Princeton rocked the world of physics with experimental evidence that Einstein's theory of gravity (General Relativity) did not correct an effect long observed in the behavior of the orbit of Mercury.

http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p67.htm

Warning: Gravity is “Only a Theory”

Are ...Gravitational anomalies... evidence of other dimensional influences????

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other interesting thought processes here...

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/few-my-rand...vity-15009.html

We already know there is such a thing as space/time, but I also believe there is magnetotime, and gravitime.

My number one ideal is that TIME NEVER STOPS. No matter what. No effect and happening can occur without the advancement of time. Black holes or singularities cannot exist if time does not exist at that location, becuase then neither rotation or gravitational forces can function to provide the effect that causes the black hole or singularity. Remember the existance we perceive is governed by time, matter and events. Take any of those three out of the equation, and there is nothing for us to perceive.

You don't have to explain why time can do something to itself, because time has two states, and existing date/address, and a moving impetus. the moving impetus isn't an event, its the pressure that causes time to advance, and events to occur. So time DOES affect itself.

I actually think there are more states... eg the intention..and the outcomes don't always agree.. :lol: ..think of synchronistic events ..or the interconnectedness of other influencers from other random acts...and that can alter outcomes..

How a moment's hesitation..due to a random distraction.. a thought... can alter the whole outcome..

Is intention.. seen as a form of gravitational push???

the intention( harnessing of time/energy).... the plan (allocation of time/energy)... action (release..guiding of time/energy).. results (display of time/energy).. judgment of outcome(intent doing a stocktake.....time battling..swirling with energy...seeking harmony?..unity? a sense of completion... ???).. if not right... an energetic imbalance has occurred.. sensed as uneasiness...dissatisfaction.. leading to a release..further bleeding of energy/time to create further... B) a gravitational push or pull

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Signs of other dimensional influences????

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978577/posts

NASA Baffled by Unexplained Force Acting on Space Probes

Mysteriously, five spacecraft that flew past the Earth have each displayed unexpected anomalies in their motions.

These newfound enigmas join the so-called "Pioneer anomaly" as hints that unexplained forces may appear to act on spacecraft.

A decade ago, after rigorous analyses, anomalies were seen with the identical Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft as they hurtled out of the solar system. Both seemed to experience a tiny but unexplained constant acceleration toward the sun.

A host of explanations have been bandied about for the Pioneer anomaly. At times these are rooted in conventional science — perhaps leaks from the spacecraft have affected their trajectories. At times these are rooted in more speculative physics — maybe the law of gravity itself needs to be modified.

Now Jet Propulsion Laboratory astronomer John Anderson and his colleagues — who originally helped uncover the Pioneer anomaly — have discovered that five spacecraft each raced either a tiny bit faster or slower than expected when they flew past the Earth en route to other parts of the solar system.

'Humble and perplexed'

The researchers looked at six deep-space probes — Galileo I and II to Jupiter, the NEAR mission to the asteroid Eros, the Rosetta probe to a comet, Cassini to Saturn, and the MESSENGER craft to Mercury. Each spacecraft flew past the our planet to either gain or lose orbital energy in their quests to reach their eventual targets.

In five of the six flybys, the scientists have confirmed anomalies.

"I am feeling both humble and perplexed by this," said Anderson, who is now working as a retiree. "There is something very strange going on with spacecraft motions. We have no convincing explanation for either the Pioneer anomaly or the flyby anomaly."

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/07/scien...-flyby-anomaly/

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D'STRIDIUM EXPLAINED!

THE EMERGING ENERGY REVOLUTION

Advanced Nuclear Concepts in Layman Terms - Dimensionality?

As word spreads about Our discoveries in D'Stridium and the Trans-Dimensional Particle Theory (TDPT), we tend to get bombarded by requests to explain it. Unfortunately, to accurately describe it takes hundreds of technical papers that many of Scientists shake their heads at and say: I can't even understand all of this, either!!! For, the Theory is truly comprehensive--and mindboggling.

Consequently, we are often asked for a less technical presentation of the Theory--something that the average layman would have a respectable chance of understanding. Well, on previous occassions, I have tried, but I still get requests to explain what I just said, even then. So, yet once more, I am attempting here to set forth some easy and more readily understandable concepts of the Theory. And, then, the significance of what we are talking about may finally be grasp by most of the Public.

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T.D.P.T. - Trans-Dimensional Particle Theory

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Is there actually a point to any of this crystal are are you just going to do what you normally do... cut and paste with no discernible point to any of it?

The Many Worlds Theory is an interesting subject worthy of discussion and this is a discussion forum, so try discussing it. What is your point? What are you trying to say here?

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If someone were capable of PHYSICALLY generating or 'phasing' themselves

into the 'etheric' or non-physical dimension for instance then they must as a result give up the control and power which they formerly held to influence the physical-material dimension, other than perhaps influencing to some extent the spirit-etheric body of a human being. A non-solid entity usually would not possess the ability to lift physical objects unless they were at least 'partially' material. The accounts of 'poltergeists' would suggest the activity of entities, whether human, animal or angelic (usually infernal rather than paradisial) which have manifested in para-physical or partially-physical form whether through 'tapping off' from the bio-energies of a human being, anelectrical or some other MATERIAL or semi-material energy source.

In the same analogy, there is apparently only one overall 'electromagnetic reality', yet numerous FACETS of that one electromagnetic spectrum. The human mind and body was created in such a way as to be enabled to perceive elements of all major 'dimensions' at once, or rather small portions of all dimensions at once. Humans as a result 'dwell' in the realm where all 'dimensions' converge, or in the convergence of the entire electromagnetic superspectrum, thus in a sense humans are 'multi-dimensional' beings, so to speak.

The human nervous system is in essence a type of biological 'transceiver' which is capable of perceiving these interlocking 'dimensions' and can receive and send information and impressions

Could what we see as Gravity really be the energetic glue of dimensional realities????

Note there are more and more anomalies being discovered of what we perceive as Gravity...

I suspect the interdimensional harnessers of energy we utilize as seen as 'willpower'... and intent..and to a higher creative level in thought.. as the tools for manipulating the energy that we know as Gravity... Gravity being the medium for attraction or detraction...

Any takers???

that any action we take also affects other dimensions.. also that other dimensions.. where we are participants or co-receivers of the cause and effect cycle can manipulate our reactions.. or affect our reality... ..an obvious one are energetic vortexes...haunted places.. or as in psychometry...

moods affected by vibrations such as in music... color...scents... observations...that call upon memories or other experiences...

or what we call vibes.. that come and go... yet are just as real as they create measurable biochemical results in us...alter affect our reality..

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This first transformation is probably best described by the Sum Over Histories method of mathematically determining the shape of the probability wave, which was developed by Richard Feynman. Feynman's original highly creative approach doesn’t merely consider the expected classical paths of particles, it mathematically sums every conceivable path through time and space, even those that disobey the laws of physics, so a particle zig-zags from left to right, and loop d' loops irregularly in all directions, irrespective even of past and future. Yet when every conceivable path is considered and the amplitude of each is summed up, the irregular waves end up canceling one another, while only the expected waves that abide physical laws remain. For some unknown reason, when all conceivable histories are summed all that remains are the possibilities of everyday life.

Quantum mechanics led physicists such as David Bohm and John Bell to argue that the wave-particle duality signifies a deep interconnectedness in nature. Where Bohm developed concepts such as implicate and explicate order to explain the wave particle duality, Bell explained that no complete explanation of the quantum behavior of particles is possible within what we normally think of as the physical universe. Bell's theorem argues that quantum mechanics involves a non-local process. In other words, some non-local process shapes the world we live in.

Quantum mechanics doesn’t merely reveal that time is branching away from the present. It reveals that the past is often just as indeterminate as the future. As physicist Thomas Hertog states, “Quantum mechanics forbids a single history”. This brings the infinite so much closer than even an imaginative person is comfortable with. What is perhaps the most startling consequence of discovering quantum mechanics, is realizing that everything beyond our observations exists in a state of multiplicity.

Quantum mechanics suggests that anything we haven’t yet observed, everything happening in another state or country, everything happening a mile away, literally everything in the world beyond our five senses, is in a quantum state of multiplicity. The infinite isn’t out there in the distant future. It is just on the other side of any door. It is just beyond our vision, our hearing, our touch, our smell. It is everything we don’t know. If we haven’t yet read the news of the day, all the possible newsworthy events are happening simultaneously in alternative universes waiting for us to turn each page of the newspaper, and only then do we connect with one of those worlds.

The underlying nature of grouping order involves dividing and separating things into individual groups.

I don't think it is a necessity.. just easier... think of Quorum Sensing.. how bacteria comunicate thru vibration...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11544353

http://www.livescience.com/animals/050310_...g_bacteria.html

( like radio frequencies) and light up..resonate the more these frequencies connect... until each of them respond..vibrate as a whole whether they are physically closer or not...

Just like how brainwaves have been measured to resonate/match when telepathically connected via a meditational style exercise...

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Telepathy-1.html

http://www.noetic.org/events/2007Conf_Palm...s/breakout.html

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=4737

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Inten...e/9780743276955

profiles the colorful pioneers in intention science and works with a team of renowned scientists from around the world, including physicist Fritz-Albert Popp of the International Institute of Biophysics and Dr. Gary Schwartz, professor of psychology, medicine, and neurology at the University of Arizona, to determine the effects of focused group intention on scientifically quantifiable targets -- animal, plant, and human.

The Intention Experiment builds on the discoveries of McTaggart's first book, international bestseller The Field: The Quest for the Secret Force of the Universe, which documented discoveries that point to the existence of a quantum energy field. The Field created a picture of an interconnected universe and a scientific explanation for many of the most profound human mysteries, fromalternative medicine and spiritual healing to extrasensory perception and the collective unconscious.

http://sci-con.org/2007/06/a-review-of-hen...ating-observer/

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Here's an interesting theory from this site...

http://sci-con.org/

Time is an important dimension when individuals make decisions. Specifically, the time until a beneficial outcome can be received is viewed as a cost and is weighed against the benefits of the outcome.

We propose that impulsive individuals experience time differently, that is with a higher cost. Impulsive subjects, therefore, overestimate the duration of time intervals and, as a consequence, discount the value of delayed rewards more strongly than do self-controlled individuals.

Does time move at a different rate for these various people...???

For me... ^_^ ... I find it very difficult to wait for some people to finish expressing a thought... and seem to mentally of verbally finish of their sentences for them.. or play several possible directions the conversation is going.. with my impatience.. and mentally jump to what I conclude is their logical direction they wish to discourse ... ;) often getting it wrong ( as my cognition of what is..often seems to differ from others :lol: )and annoying them to no end... as to me it seems to take minutes for them to express on idea.. where as I gather they think they are communicating at a normal pace...

It may explain why my daughters speak so fast.... :rolleyes: ..( recently I saw a show where this lady was reputedly the fastest talker around.. that she spoke so fast .. that no one could hear what she was trying to convey... B) ..needless to say.. it sounded just a little faster than normal to me....)

But then again.. I find it difficult to make a decision ..eg a 5 page menu at a restaurant can have me contemplating for hours.. :P ... as I am picturing dozens of scenarios ..for every choice.... :( ..and it so annoys the others...

:lol:

so time intervals alter stretch to the individuals perception.....dimensionly??

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:lol: the 19.5 theory

Hoagland and Wilcock interview on Coast to Coast AM

http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles...iewPartTwo1.htm

AB: Tomorrow night, at this time, Dr Michio Kaku is going to be my guest. He’s a certainly a proponent of the idea that there are multiple dimensions. In fact, the very best theoretical physicists of our time believe that there are as many as eleven dimensions. Now, if you’ve been struggling as I always have to understand what Richard calls “hyper-dimensional” physics, maybe we can explain it. We can give it a try anyway. If you consider all of these worlds that do have an anomalous amount of energy that you can see, or a major flaw, or something at the 19.5 give-a-way point – even our own Earth… we’ll get to that in a moment.

(Commercial continues)

AB: At one moment, there is something very mysterious about all of these things on all of these planets. By the way even the sun, I believe [has phenomena that occur], at 19.5. And even our own Earth [does as well]. Is that correct, Richard? What do we have at 19.5 here on Earth that would be…?

RH: Well, we have Hawaii. We have the big island and the big volcano on Hawaii which is analogous to Olympus Mons on Mars.

AB: So you’re saying the energy is being dispersed?

RH: There is an upwelling. There is a plume of lava, and because we’re on Earth (and have sensitive instrumentation), we can actually measure this.

AB: What about 19.5? Everybody knows about Hawaii. As you continue around the world, are there more remarkable?—

RH: Well, no, because what happens is you get a consolidation of the energy upwellings in a physical form, like a vortex or a volcano into one “biggie.” But, if you look at earthquake data, seismic data, we know there’s a plume of hot lava coming up from the outer core of the Earth. [it moves] eighteen hundred miles straight up, under Hawaii. This plume of energy is like an arrow coming up from the core of the Earth, bursting through the crust at 19.5 [degrees]. Because of plate tectonics, because of the motion of the crust of the Earth, the plates of the Earth [passing] laterally [beside each other] like ships in the night, the upwelling punches through the crust at different positions and creates the different islands [at different times].

And, if you actually “unroll the film” -- if you reel back time and look at where the islands were millions of years ago -- you find that it’s almost like you had a cigarette under a sheet of paper, and you burned a little hole in the paper, then you move the cigarette (or, you move the paper), and you burn another mark … and then another … and you have this linear chain of upwellings that burst through the surface.

AB: At 19.5, predominantly.

RH: At 19.5-- because the latitude is fixed relative to the pole.

further random observances....

http://www.enterprisemission.com/table_of_coincidence.htm

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/chapter3/

Symbolism Archives Masonic - Occultic Numerology by Duke ... They also use 19.5 sometimes. That is half of 39 They especially like their 7's .

^_^ or.....

Missile will be launched from 19.5 degrees latitude.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/m...ge341551/pg1099

if so,

this would mean nada. the real number is 19.47 in the occult

soap opera. 19.5 is meaningless. gosh, look it up. 19.47.

Quoting: what. 376643

19.47° or "19.5" is a universal number signifying the meeting of a tetrahedron with a sphere. 19.47° is the latitude where 3 points of the 4 sided tetrahedron touch north or south the equator if the 4th point is anchored at the pole of a rotating sphere. If the number 19.47 was discovered in an extraterrestrial radio signal, SETI scientists would have proof that the broadcasters understood advanced Platonic geometry. The Roswell message numerologically interconnects 19.47 with the date, latitude, longitude and distance from the equator of the impact event itself.

The earth is 21,600 nautical miles around. This measurement is based on the ratio of 360 x 60 first used by the Phoenicians and still in use by modern ocean and flight navigators.

The number 6,480 is exactly 1/4th of the total 25,920 years it takes earth to complete one circuit through the signs of the zodiac. 6,480 years is unique because it marks the duration between a series of global cataclysms left in earth's historic and geologic record.

At Roswell, 19.47 appears in relationship between 21,600, 6,480 and 33.33

[link to www.illuminati-news.com]

Numerology

9/11 9+1+1+2+0+0+1= 14/5

Tomorrow Eclipse/Satellite 2+2+0+2+0+0+8= 14/5

Unmistakable Lunar Ruins on the Moon -- at 19.5 ...!

By Richard C. Hoagland

© 2006 The Enterprise Mission

http://www.enterprisemission.com/INA-Outgassing.htm

http://www.vortexmaps.com/planets.php

Spherical Geometry & 19.5 Degrees

throughout the solar system

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spherical geometry

NEXT: The Piri Reis map

19.5 degrees north and south are the latitudes

where the apex points of a star tetrahedra within a sphere

will contact that sphere's surface,

Spherical Geometry & 19.5 Degrees

throughout the solar system

spherical geometry

NEXT: The Piri Reis map

19.5 degrees north and south are the latitudes

where the apex points of a star tetrahedra within a sphere

will contact that sphere's surface,

when one apex is positioned at the north or south pole.

On the Sun: sunspot activity and the region of peak temperatures is limited to 19.5 degreees north and south.

On Venus: the presumably active major volcano complexes Alpha and Beta Regio are near 19.5 degrees.

On Earth:

Mauna Loa, Hawaii (19 degrees 28 minutes N, 155 degrees 37 minutes W) The largest shield volcano is at 19.6 degrees north. This is Mauna-Kea volcano on the island of Hawaii.

Mexico City, Mexico (19 degrees 23 minutes N, 99 degrees 10 minutes W) The Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan is at 19.6 degrees north.

Dzibalchen, (Yucatan), Mexico (19 degrees 28 minutes N, 89 degrees 46 minutes W)

Georgetown, Grand Cayman Island (19 degrees 18 minutes N, 81 degrees 26 minutes W)

Mount Emi Koussi, Chad, Africa (19 degrees 47 minutes N, 18 degrees 34 minutes E)

Mount Kalsubai, (near Bombay), India (19 degrees 33 minutes N, 73 degrees 43 minutes E)

Mountain near Xiangkhoang, Laos (19 degrees 17 minutes N, 103 degrees 17 minutes E)

Mountain near Potosi, Bolivia (19 degrees 13 minutes S, 66 degrees 22 minutes W)

Yasur Volcano, Tanna Island, Vanuatu (South Pacific Ocean) (19 degrees 31 minutes S, 169 degrees 25 minutes E)

Mount Samuel, Northwest Territory, Australia (19 degrees 13 minutes S, 134 degrees 8 minutes E)

Gweru, Zimbabwe, Africa (19 degrees 31 minutes S, 29 degrees 49 minutes E)

On Mars: the "vast" Olympus Mons shield cone volcano is at 19.5 degrees.

On Jupiter: the "red spot" which is an obvious vortex is at 19.5 degrees.

On Neptune: in 1986 Voyager II discovered a similar spot at 19.5 degrees north.

Based on Richard Dannelley's book, Sedona: Beyond the Vortex and Bruce Rawles

Why '19.5 degrees' is Significant

19.5 degrees is the angle that's been found by researchers (Richard C. Hoagland, Stanley McDaniel, Erol Torun, Horace W. Crater, etc.) to be repeatedly encoded in the structures of Cydonia. It is viewed as a definite 'signal in the noise' - some kind of a 'message' left there by some intelligence. 19.5 is called t, the 'tetrahedral constant', because of its significance in tetrahedral geometry (a tetrahedron is a pyramid shape composed of four equilateral triangular sides): the apexes of a tetrahedron when placed within a circumscribing sphere, one of the tetrahedron's apexes touching the north pole, the other three apexes touch the surface of the sphere at 19.5 degrees south latitude. Why this number would be important to the builders of the Martian structures is not clear (though Hoagland is theorizing that it has to do with what he calls "hyperdimensional physics").

Nile Time-Map & tetrahedral geometry -- 19.5 degrees

http://prophetic.simplenet.com/elysium/nile-timemap.htm

The emphasis on 19.5 degrees is not confined to the Martian structures. It has been found to be associated with various ancient structures here on earth - Giza pyramids, Avebury (the largest stone circle in the world, near Stonehenge), Pyramids of the Sun and Moon at Teotihuacan, etc. It is also worth noting that the Egyptian hieroglyph for Sirius, the brightest star in the sky which was extremely important to ancient Egyptians, is an equilateral triangle which can be viewed as a 2-dimensional representation of a tetrahedron; and in the Egyptian translation, it means a doorway... a sort of 'stargate'. Curiously, it has also been observed that 19.5 degrees is closely linked, for some reason, with the NASA space missions (for example, Mars Pathfinder landed at 19.5 degrees lat. of Mars on July 4, '97). In fact, not only did Pathfinder landed at 19.5 N, the longitude of the landing site was approximately 33 W - which is the very number of the longitude of the apex of the Great Bend of the Nile (33 E)! Now, this strongly insists on the relevance of the Nile numbers, and someone behind the scenes is well aware of it. As we move on, the number, 19.5, will also be very important in my Nile Time-map

when one apex is positioned at the north or south pole.

On the Sun: sunspot activity and the region of peak temperatures is limited to 19.5 degreees north and south.

On Venus: the presumably active major volcano complexes Alpha and Beta Regio are near 19.5 degrees.

http://www.dailygrail.com/node/416

16 ancient sites are located along the latitude of 19.5 degrees within a margin of error of less than one tenth of one degree of latitude http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/ including the Great Pyramid, Easter Island, Machupicchu, Perseopolis, Ur, and Nazca. It's generally agreed that these structures were not built by local people for local reasons. Rather, there is a single global pattern that ties these monuments together. This in turn implies the existence of an advanced civilization that existed before the flood and managed to communicate important geodesic, geological and geometric information to people throughout history.

In "The Geometry of Ancient Sites" http://www.earthmatrix.com/ancientsites.... Charles William Johnson expands these thoughts, expressed earlier by Carl P. Munck in "The Code," into the idea of a matrix where the Great Pyramid, along with all the other pyramids of different ancient sites, are situated so as to maintain the proper revolution and rotation of the Earth on its cosmic orbit within our solar system.

A final example of H & B's almost Masonic (secretive) interpretation of data is their limited look at Campanella's City of the Sun plan that showed seven concentric divisions ringing the temple separated by walls penetrated by gates facing the cardinal directions." H & B make no reference to the almost identical layout of the City of Atlantis, as described by Plato, nor the fact that the Minoans and Cretans used the flat record of the seven strips off the torus, the labyrinth, to dance the dance of remembering -- as Dan Winter explains in "Alphabet of the Eartheart" (available free on-line at http://spirals.eternite.com/ ).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14_RVig4ouo

Richard C. Hoagland of www.enterprisemission.com speaks on the Cydonia geometry and the 19.5 degrees tetrahedron relevance when oriented within a planetary global sphere.

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Moreover, if one slit is closed off, the pattern disappears. Only in the absence of a measurement do the electrons sneak through both slits at once. This behavior sounds crazy, but it has been confirmed by countless experiments.

B) ......electrons are influenced by intent????

If an Electron Can Be in Two Places at Once, Why Can't You?

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/jun/cover...t:int=2&-C=

Penrose is convinced that conventional quantum theory seems absurd because it is incomplete. Specifically, it ignores the effects of gravity. On atomic or subatomic scales, gravity is so weak compared with the other forces that most physicists see no problem with leaving it out of the picture. But in Penrose’s view, the only way to understand the quantum world is to consider all the forces that act on it. To do that, he is combining Einstein’s relativity with quantum physics in a way nobody has considered before.

In Einstein’s theory, any object that has mass causes a warp in the structure of space and time around it. This warping produces the effect we experience as gravity. Penrose points out that tiny objects—dust specks, atoms, electrons—produce space-time warps as well. Ignoring these warps is where most physicists go awry, he believes.

If a dust speck is in two locations at the same time, each one should create its own distortions in space-time, yielding two superposed gravitational fields. According to Penrose’s theory, it takes energy to sustain these dual fields. The stability of a system depends on the amount of energy involved: The higher the energy required to sustain a system, the less stable it is. Over time, an unstable system tends to settle back to its simplest, lowest-energy state—in this case, one object in one location producing one gravitational field. If Penrose is right, gravity yanks objects back into a single location, without any need to invoke observers or parallel universes.

How long the process takes depends on the degree of instability. Electrons, atoms, and molecules are so small that their gravity, and hence the amount of energy needed to keep them in duplicate states, is negligible. According to Penrose, they can persist that way essentially forever, as standard quantum theory predicts. Large objects, on the other hand, create such significant gravitational fields that the duplicate states vanish almost at once. Penrose calculates that a person collapses to one location in a trillion-trillionth of a second. For a dust speck, the process takes nearly a second—long enough that it might be possible to measure.

Growing excited, he hoists himself to a more upright position on his sofa. “Here is the scale where you should start to see differences between what quantum mechanics says and what reality does,” he says. “The superposition that is part of quantum mechanics is unstable for large objects; an object will assume one or the other position on a timescale of about a second. Is this true? Well, we have to do an experiment.”

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B) Some interesting explorations...

http://nrumiano.free.fr/Estars/int_bh.html

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Like in a standard space-time diagram, light travels on the diagonals (purple lines), and other objects can only follow pathes like the blue one.

This diagram is the result of a compactification of space, by means of an appropriate change of coordinates. As it is drawn here, it shows an infinite space-time universe, without beginning nor end.

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Warning : for the falling object, time does not have the same value, this is one of the aspects of Relativity. Inside such an object, the travel time is finite, and quite short, because of the acceleration due to the intense gravitational field.

On the right diagram, the path of the particle is shown in blue within its proper time, and in yellow for a distant observer.

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B) Some interesting explorations...

<snip>

So? What are you trying to convey here? Any point of discussion?

Cheers,

Badeskov

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;) don't worry ... it is on topic..

from the same site...

explorations of Black Holes and connections to parallel universes..

We are now drawing the space around a BH, with the help of a Penrose space-time diagram. We shall use the coordinates system of Kruskal.

This diagram is the description of a universe, with only one everlasting black hole, situated at a distance r =0.

Penrose diagram of a static BHlinked-image

The thick diagonals show the horizon of the black hole. If something crosses it, following the blue path, it can't go back, and has no other choice but to strike the singularity.

On the Penrose diagram, we can notice two things :

* on the left side, there appears an area, symmetrical to our universe, that we can call a parallel universe.

These two universes can't have any contact, except beyond the horizon of the black hole.

* The existence of another singularity is the second interesting thing. This is a white hole, sometimes called a white fountain, where nothing can enter.

The opposite of a black hole, one is only able to go out of it, due to the fact that we can't travel back in time.

Is this sketch an actual view of the universe ?

In fact, there is an hypothesis : the BH is everlasting. This is not true when the BH comes from the collapse of a star.

In this case, the black hole is no longer eternal, it only appears when the star collapses.

There is no white hole, no parallel universe in this case linked-image

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;) don't worry ... it is on topic..

That might very well be, but I am curious as to what that topic actually is and what your position on said topic is! Honestly, to me this just seems like a bunch of irrelevant cuts and pastes without any opinions and/or discussions from your side to tie them together. I trying to find out what you are trying to say, what you mean to convey. Any opinions on this or explanations to how all these cuts and pastes should be understood?

Thanks!

Cheers,

Badeskov

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