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keithisco

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In an entirely predictable result Chapucero, sorry Zapatero, has been re-elected in Spain as Prime Minister for another 4 years.

He has magically led Spain into the highest level of unemployment in 10 years, GDP has reduced dramatically, Spain is set to drop from 8th richest nation to 15th richest nation in just 2 years. Unchecked immigration is being used to ensure that native Spaniards wages are kept low, the same as in the UK. It is all a sham...I wish the conservative party here was better placed, but they also are just interested in gaining power.

Does ANYONE speak for Spain? NO, just as no-one speaks for the UK.

More worryingly is that he does not have an overall majority so will be dependent on support from Basque separatists, and Cataluña separatists to stay in power.They will get enormous influence now beyond their "punching weight". It just goes to prove that his "talks" with ETA were simply to ensure he would remain in power.

This is a sad day for Spain, these views are shared in Comunidad de Madrid, and all the other regions (except Pais Vasco and Cataluña).

Why dont we all complain, and demand a government that truly rpresents the peoples wishes?

Zapatero will make sure that the conservative (not as in UK politics by the way)voice is excluded for the next 4 years.but as they were only 6% behind his vote then he will be stoking a fire of discontent. I hope that Comunidad de Madrid declares independence, because the other regions will just founder.

Well, there you have it... I have moved to a Country that held a glimmer of hope, but feel totally let down. IMO

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I don't speak Spanish anymore.

I don't pay attention to other countries elections. =/

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HA ! ... basque and Catelone separitists ?

Well, he salved the requirements of his Islamist seperatists a year ago when he withdrew from the ME.. obviouly he has garnered their votes.

He's sowed the whirlwind, knowing that he won't be called to account for the reslulting Hurricane.

Meow Purr.

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I actually did "vote" simply said Todos son tontos.

It looks like Chapucero (means "bodger" in English) is trying to just get the Cataluñistas behind him. At least they dont murder people for their ideals. Tha Vasco gits are just sociopaths.

I would love it if Spain just said to the Basques "OK, there you are, you have own tiny, unresourced nation, no more massive investment from Madrid just to feed you fools"... that would bring a smile to my face, because they do not understand what complete independence would really mean... a return to a hunter - gatherer lifestyle, even more in-breeding than happens now, and complete international isolation!!

Would serve them right as well

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changed my mind.

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now come on... you would have preferred Afananza Pandillar to run the country?

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Keith, Why dont we all complain, and demand a government that truly rpresents the peoples wishes? because democracy is a lie, we've been sold a dud, i was watching "rivers of blood", was "Enoch powell right", and i can tell you he was a great statesman, he spoke the truth, he spoke about his constituencies concerns and because he truly represented the people who elected him he was thrown out the tory party and labelled a racist, has a close friend said, he spoke openly about things the polictical elite had decided could not be talked about openly,

it reminds me of when the current government (UK) gave us permission to discuss immigration, ( very kind of them dont you think) do things ever change?, i think in this age of super fast communication/internet the more informed we become the more of us are seeing a false democracy we are living in!

Mate,

I complained every day before I left Blighty,

The problem is that no-one listens. Yes, I agree, Enoch Powel was a great Statesman, but the revisionists took out of context his "Rivers of blood" statement and turned it into racism, which was never true. I read the entire speech, several times, and could never see any racism in his comments. He was warning against racial intolerance from outside the UK, forcing a situation where people had to take a position to defend their own cultural beliefs, inside their own nation!!!!

I also agree that the majority of the UK, and I hope the USA, realise that democracy has been taken from the people. We must all now accept a 2 party state where the differences are so miniscule, that whoever you vote for still gives you the same Government.... Sickens me, and i hope one day that here will be a popular uprising, not military or physical, but that enough common people will stand up and say "No more". The real morality lies with the people, and when finally, enough people realise this, then all of us will become free from corporate and political serfdom.....

This, I dont believe, will happen in my lifetime, in truth, I do not believe it will ever happen, and that is the saddest thing...

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keithisco, i voted for Zapatero. Sorry to hear your views, but in this 4 years Spain have advanced alot in the social and, even if you dont agree, economical aspects. Even if i live in Argentina i am an Spanish citizen and closely follo Spain situation. Zapatero is much, but very much preferable to Rajoy and the Partido Popular pancies,Neo-Franquist and Church boot lickers.

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Mate,

I complained every day before I left Blighty,

The problem is that no-one listens. Yes, I agree, Enoch Powel was a great Statesman, but the revisionists took out of context his "Rivers of blood" statement and turned it into racism, which was never true. I read the entire speech, several times, and could never see any racism in his comments. He was warning against racial intolerance from outside the UK, forcing a situation where people had to take a position to defend their own cultural beliefs, inside their own nation!!!!

I also agree that the majority of the UK, and I hope the USA, realise that democracy has been taken from the people. We must all now accept a 2 party state where the differences are so miniscule, that whoever you vote for still gives you the same Government.... Sickens me, and i hope one day that here will be a popular uprising, not military or physical, but that enough common people will stand up and say "No more". The real morality lies with the people, and when finally, enough people realise this, then all of us will become free from corporate and political serfdom.....

This, I dont believe, will happen in my lifetime, in truth, I do not believe it will ever happen, and that is the saddest thing...

Keith, i deleted my post you've replied to, because i thought it would drag your topic off track, but seeing that you've replied,....... i agree with everything you've said, except i want a military coup on behalf of the people, because theres no other way to bring this government down, we need a leader who will lead the people someone who can muster the people, and put the wrongs right, in short make a stand for the countries values and people, but i've told friends and family that if Labour get re-elected at the next election, then am leaving this country, as much as i love it i cant live here under a labour government and watch it go down hill, and even if tried to make a stand i'd be a voice in the wilderness,....

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Partido Popular pancies,Neo-Franquist and Church boot lickers.

That is what hardly anybody seems to remember, first they were called Falange Nacional, then Alianza Popular (better known as Afananza Pandillar* for its honesty) and now Partido Popular... and all the time the same old Franquistas and bishops are pulling the strings in the background. Those are the people who with Arias and Solis at the helm tried to avoid the democratizing of Spain in the 70s.... And you trust them to further democracy and civil rights? Please.

(* Afanar means to steal in Gypsy slang)

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And in Argentinian slang. I am happy Zapatero win. At least this mean that Rajoy is a political cadaver now, no one in the PP will touch him even whit a 10 ft pole.

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first off Zapatero only came in as a protest against the Madrid bombings, Under a conservative Aznar, spain went from a fairly backward "no can do" attitude, to becoming the 8th biggest economy in the world, The only noticable thing Zapatero has done is legalize gay marriage..moreover, Zapatero and his policies are not in line with whats needed, for the inevitable economic downturn, which is already starting to rear its head in Spain.....

The spanish people are also easily intimidated, one by the Madrid bombings, and im sure the recent ETA assasination days before the election, influenced the voter, since Zapatero has taken the softly, softly approach against terrorism...

Spain may live to regret their choice.....

besides, is it me or does Zapatero look familiar?

Is this Zapatero?

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Or this?...its a little freaky

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Is this Zapatero?

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Or this?...its a little freaky

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:lol: you might be on to something here, Syd.

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Under a conservative Aznar, spain went from a fairly backward "no can do" attitude, to becoming the 8th biggest economy in the world,

nice, you just forgot to mention that Aznar was not running this time and that Rajoy is but a caricature of same.

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nice, you just forgot to mention that Aznar was not running this time and that Rajoy is but a caricature of same.

Erm no, i didnt forget to mention Rajoy, i just didnt mention Rajoy......Whats your Beef...Maaaan?

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Erm no, i didnt forget to mention Rajoy, i just didnt mention Rajoy......Whats your Beef...Maaaan?

Simple, by omission you could imply that Zapatero was running against Aznar... he was not... he was running against Rajoy.

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Simple, by omission you could imply that Zapatero was running against Aznar... he was not... he was running against Rajoy.

Questionmark, are you just trying to show people how anal you are?........or do you have a worthwhile point to make?........Yaaawwwn

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Questionmark, are you just trying to show people how anal you are?........or do you have a worthwhile point to make?........Yaaawwwn

Naturally, if you would know as much as you claim about Spain you would also know that Aznar only had to sit on his ass and watch Spain grow...compliments of the European Union. No country got more monetary transfers than Spain during those times... but I am afraid that it does not fit your views of the world.

During Zapateros time that money has started to dry up, because Spain is not considered a needy region anymore and the EU money went to Poland. No wonder that there is a slowdown.

And last, but not least... being obnoxious does not reinforce your point but could be interpreted as an ineffective attempt to hide your ignorance or further your propaganda.

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Naturally, if you would know as much as you claim about Spain you would also know that Aznar only had to sit on his ass and watch Spain grow...compliments of the European Union. No country got more monetary transfers than Spain during those times... but I am afraid that it does not fit your views of the world.

During Zapateros time that money has started to dry up, because Spain is not considered a needy region anymore and the EU money went to Poland. No wonder that there is a slowdown.

And last, but not least... being obnoxious does not reinforce your point but could be interpreted as an ineffective attempt to hide your ignorance or further your propaganda.

Yes your quite right about certain points, but it took a man like Aznar to ensure Spain was on the receiving end of the big cash handouts, Aznar went about liberalizing the markets and privatizing industry, the conservative Aznar enabled spanish firms to compete on a global level ......which is something Zapatero wouldn't do..... But naturally, you must know that!

And last, but not least... being an Uber liberal & socialist believer, does not reinforce your point but could be interpreted as an ineffective attempt to hide your ignorance or further your propaganda.

OOOpps now i think ive missed the odd comma!

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Yes your quite right about certain points, but it took a man like Aznar to ensure Spain was on the receiving end of the big cash handouts, Aznar went about liberalizing the markets and privatizing industry, the conservative Aznar enabled spanish firms to compete on a global level ......which is something Zapatero wouldn't do..... But naturally, you must know that!

And last, but not least... being an Uber liberal & socialist believer, does not reinforce your point but could be interpreted as an ineffective attempt to hide your ignorance or further your propaganda.

OOOpps now i think ive missed the odd comma!

Sorry, I am as conservative as they come...but I would vote for socialists if they are the best ticket to preserve my world... imagine.

And to see what I mean: http://www.ine.es/en/prensa/np467_en.pdf

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Yes your quite right about certain points, but it took a man like Aznar to ensure Spain was on the receiving end of the big cash handouts, Aznar went about liberalizing the markets and privatizing industry,

True, on the upside Aznar did seem to be beneficial for the Spanish economy, however on the downside, under his leadership.. I did observe an noticeable increase in the number of Spanish Klingons.

Did you?

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True, on the upside Aznar did seem to be beneficial for the Spanish economy, however on the downside, under his leadership.. I did observe an noticeable increase in the number of Spanish Klingons.

Did you?

Spot on Bill Hill, there has been increased activity of Spanish Klingons around london, its been well noted......

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Spanish Klingons™?

Yep, there you go... a textbook example.. :tu:

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