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Vast Prehistoric Works Built By Giants?

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B) There are so many ancient tales of Giants.. it's certainly worth exploring....

The Geoglyphs of Teohuanaco

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The size and scope of David Flynn's Teohuanaco discovery simply surpasses comprehension. Mammoth traces of intelligence carved in stone and covering hundreds of square miles. For those who understand what they are seeing here for the first time, this could indeed be the strongest evidence ever found of prehistoric engineering by those who were known and feared throughout the ancient world as gods. ~ Thomas Horn

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The similarities of the quipus type rock glyphs and examples of Inca quipus rope are compellingly similar. The monumental work required to carve these geoglyphs suggest the importance of the message they conveyed. It is also remarkable that the knotted configurations of quipus seem to have been carved into the bedrock of hills rising above sediment that was deposited over the bedrock itself. This suggests that the age of these features is in excess of many thousands of years.

As in the case of the Nazca lines of Peru, the Tiahuanaco geoglyphs represent hundreds of years in construction and communal effort of thousands. However, unlike Nazca that was constructed in low altitude, the more extensive Tiahuanaco geoglyphs lie in a region that cannot support a population capable of producing such vast works, existing on a plain 12,500 feet above sea level and higher. Never the less, they saturate the country side for hundreds of square miles, a fact that presents enormous architectural difficulties. Modern day visitors to the region are advised to limit activity due to the danger of altitude sickness. In fact, hotels in La Paz actually provide supplementary oxygen for their guests.

When the first Spanish chroniclers arrived with the conquistador Pizaro, the Inca explained that Tiahuanaco had been constructed by a race of giants, called "Huaris", before Chamak-pacha, the "period of darkness", and was already in ruins before their civilization began. The giants had been created by Viracocha, the god who came from the heavens.

He (Viracocha) created animals and a race of giants. These beings enraged the Lord, and he turned them into stone. Then he flooded the earth till all was under water, and all life extinguished. This flood was called uñu pachacuti, by the Inca which means "water that overturns the land." They say that it rained 60 days and nights, that it drowned all created things, and that there alone remained some vestiges of those who were turned into stones. Viracocha rose from the bosom of Lake Titicaca, and presided over the erection of those wondrous cities whose ruins still dot its islands and western shores, and whose history is totally lost in the night of time. 5

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There are magnificent artificial lake systems and large dams and canals. On the stones rising from the ancient water level are carved figures that once cast curious shadows on the surfaces of sacred lakes. Strangely enough, there is a small lake on the plateau today called `Black Lagoon', and out of its centre rises the perfectly carved head of a scaly dinosaur-like monster as if it were just breaking the surface, resting its enormous, ponderous body on the bottom.

After studying hundreds of carvings on the plateau, Dr. Ruzo reached a startling conclusion. But the evidence was all there. Gigantic altars that could accommodate only very large life forms. How large? At least twelve feet tall. Therefore, Ruzo believes Marcahuasi holds important keys to the world's ancient mysteries—it is possibly the last 'Sacred Forest' in such a state of preservation. One of the great 'Sacred Forests' of whispered antiquity where the 'gods' met in council to decide the fate of the world.

When you view the figures on the plateau you feel you are looking at some long-forgotten museum of the 'Giant Gods', for it seems that everything ever created is represented here. There are all kinds of great birds and animals from lions and elephants to camels and penguins—all of which never existed in South America. (See Fig. No. 7, 'The Lion', and Fig. No. 8, 'The Group of Elephants'.) In Figure No. 8 you will find the elephants (one going away from you and others leaning against him) in the centre of the photograph. To the extreme left you will notice several stone burial 'chulpas' (tombs) of the Incas.

There are countless human faces representing all the races of mankind. (See Fig. No. 9, which is called 'La Negrita', the colored woman.) Many great stone heads bear strong resemblance to those found on Easter Island in the Pacific Ocean, for they possess the same features with the stone hats and all that the Island statues are famous for. There is another curious figure exactly like Easter Island representations. It is a great carving of a headless man with a gigantic bird head attached to the end of his spine.

Obviously, ancient religions are represented, for there are many sphinxes in evidence. (See Fig. No. 10, and look at the photograph with a magnifying glass. a. is called `The Warrior's Helmet'; b. is called `Elephant Head'; c. is a pair of magnificent sphinxes that appear to be Grecian, for they have the faces of women; and d. looks like a great `Toad'.)

The god `Huari' of the Huancas was evidently a Hercules or a culture-hero of these people. Very likely he had been a giant king or being in the dim past. Like his Greek counterpart, the Huanca 'Hercules-Huari' was celebrated for strength. The huaris, or 'great ones', were the ancestors of the aristocrats of the tribe, and were regarded as specially favorable towards agricultural effort (perhaps because of the underground 'El' accomplishment. The 'El's' sprang from the soil into the Theta Universe, and this symbolized growing things and bountiful crops that had to come from the soil also?). The huaris were called the 'gods of great strength', and many libations of chicha (strong drink) were sacrificed to them by the priests. Ancestors were deeply revered, a memory of the 'Elder Race'?

The fact that the worship of `Huari' and the huaris was widespread can be seen in the names of towns, etc., today in Peru : Huari; Huariaca; Huaribamba, etc. Memory of the Huancas is found in such place names as : Huancayo; Huanacupampa; Huanca; Huancabamba; Huancane; Huancano; Huancape; Huancapon; Huancarama; Huancaray; Huancaraylla; Huancarqui; Huanca-Sancos; Huancaspata; Huancavelica; Huancaya, and many others.

Monstrous stone figures, carved into fantastic shapes, enormous altars for giant beings, faces, signs and symbols that only become visible during certain times of the year when the sun or moonlight strikes them at the right angle, any of these things alone is quite enough to stir our sense of imagination and make us thrill to the happenings of a long forgotten yesterday, but there is more on Marcahuasi and about Marcahuasi that is even yet more incredible.

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1.618

Very interesting.

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crystal sage

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The Allegewi next appear in the legends of the Sioux, whose tradition tells of a confrontation with a race of great stature. The Sioux, who were surely among the ablest of warriors, exterminated the Allegewi when the giants sought to settle in what is now Minnesota.

Is there any archaeological evidence to support these tribal legends and traditions?

Rising out of the earth in Ohio, Minnesota, Iowa, and other states are the huge Earthworks of the mysterious "moundbuilders." The mounds scattered throughout the Midwest were apparently raised by the same unknown people, and the earthworks are extremely large.

Do giant mounds indicate giant people?

Enormous weapons, including a copper ax weighing 38 pounds, have been found in these mounds. It is difficult to imagine the average-sized Amerindian, as we first know him at the time of the European invasion, casually wielding a 38-pound axe.

However, outsized weapons and implements alone are not proof of a giant race, and neither are huge monuments. The former can be works of art, the latter could be objects of religious commitment. The best proof of a race of giants in North America-- or anywhere else -- would be the discovery of the skeletons of these people.

Two brothers living in Dresbach, Minnesota, in the process of enlarging their brick business, were forced to remove a number of large Indian mounds. In one of the huge earthenworks they discovered the bones of "men over eight feet tall."

In La Crescent, Minnesota, not far from Dresbach, mound-diggers reportedly found large skillets and "bones of men of huge stature."

Over in Chatfield, mounds were excavated, revealing six skeletons of enormous size.

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crystal sage

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The People of Cain

Cain went to the land of Nod, and produced giants. They were smart educated, intelligent, builders, inventors and scientists and knew the art of metal. The Scripture says one of those giants had fourteen inch fingers. Now, your finger is just as long as your closed hand. Open it up; that would be a twenty-eight inch hand! The God of Moses commanded Moses to exterminate the whole race of these people from the Land of Canaan whom He said would corrupt their morals and pervert their heart to paganism if they intermarried or made agreements with them. Here we find the 2 opposing gods , Enlil and Enki, in the war of the gods with the people of earth being caught right in the middle , being forced to take sides .

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Moonie2012

That's some very compelling evidence. I personally believe that giants in the ancient past is possible (if not probable), but the lack of remains is bothersome.

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gabolai

Just a thought, I wonder if the lack of remains is due to the great flood changing the location of the worlds oceans, therefor all giant remains are deep below the sea and covered in silt.

There have also been stories of Museums around the world hiding them. . . take that as you will. I personally think that museum curators of all people would be the first to want to show a new discovery.

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BenFiasco

Interesting theory, but why would such a large race of humans (assuming they were human), die out? Isn't the tallest human we have on record close to 8 feet tall? Usually tall people have large advantages in many things (Im thinking athletics), so unless these creatures had very little intellect, going off of evolution wouldn't all of us today be close to this height if not larger?

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Interesting theory, but why would such a large race of humans (assuming they were human), die out? Isn't the tallest human we have on record close to 8 feet tall? Usually tall people have large advantages in many things (Im thinking athletics), so unless these creatures had very little intellect, going off of evolution wouldn't all of us today be close to this height if not larger?

Thats the best and longest avatar ive seen. cool

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crystal sage
Interesting theory, but why would such a large race of humans (assuming they were human), die out? Isn't the tallest human we have on record close to 8 feet tall? Usually tall people have large advantages in many things (Im thinking athletics), so unless these creatures had very little intellect, going off of evolution wouldn't all of us today be close to this height if not larger?

Remember there were dinosuars once.

What changed so much way back then on the Earth's environment that really caused them to die out and replace them with smaller versions?

Could it have been changes in the Earth's magnetic fields?

It may not only have been nutritional..

Note there is evidence that in the distant past the earth was populated by what we consider as pygmies.

What has also changed in the Earth's environment that has made us taller than our ancestors?

It can't just be the invention of multivitamins? :D:rolleyes: ..

Note that the Earth's magnetic fields are getting weaker..and the atmosphere .(.gas/oxygen combinations) are changing...

;) Just a thought or two here..

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...p;#entry2171657

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...p;#entry2153673

What do we really breathe?

http://www.chemistryland.com/CHM107/AirWeB...omposition.html

Here are 10 gases that make up clean air: In order of highest to lowest concentration they are Nitrogen, Oxygen, Argon, Carbon dioxide, Neon, Helium, Methane (CH4), Krypton, Hydrogen, and Xenon. Five of them travel alone, so we call them atoms. For example, a helium balloon contains atoms of helium (He), but an oxygen tank contains molecules of oxygen (O2). When there's two or more atoms are bonded together, they are called molecules.

NITROGEN (N2) #1: 8 out of 10 atoms (or molecules) of air are made of nitrogen

Oxygen #1: 2 out of 10 atoms/molecules of air is oxygen. Oxygen is produced by plants and is consumed by animals. Animals need oxygen to "burn" the food they eat in order to get the calories (energy) they need. The way animals use oxygen to burn food is different than a fire, but it produces the same products of carbon dioxide and water. Of all of the gases that make up air, oxygen is the most reactive.

The rocks, the soil, and the mountains contain metals and silicon that is bound to oxygen, which makes up about 1/2 of their weight. Think about it; one half of a mountain's weight is from oxygen.

One Last Look at Compostion of Air: Imagine the volume of air in a typical classroom that is 30 feet by 30 feet with a 10 foot high ceiling. Also assume, we separated all the gases. Oxygen would cover the room to about 2 feet deep. Nitrogen would fill almost to the ceiling (another 8 feet minus a couple of inches). Argon gas would fill a one inch layer over the whole room. The remaining gases fill the last one inch. Carbon dioxide has about the same volume of one student. Neon is 1.5 gallons. Helium would fill a one liter bottle. Methane gas would fill someone's 1/2 liter bottle. Krypton would fill a 12 oz soda can. Hydrogen would fill about half of a 12 oz soda can. And xenon gas would have the volume of a pencil's eraser.

I wonder what these Oxygen Bars really do to us???

Oxygen causes free radicals.. hastens deteriation.

http://www.nutrition4health.org/NOHAnews/N...tritionEyes.htm

... in order to live we produce energy by using oxygen; this process produces many harmful free radicals, which then need to be quenched.

OXYOLOGY

http://www.majidali.com/oxygen.htm

Oxyology (oxy-olo-gy) is the study of oxygen, just as gemology is the study of gems. I recently introduced this term in an editorial published in The Journal of Integrative Medicine14 for the following two reasons:

1. The study of oxygen deserves to be considered as the core medical discipline; and

2. Oxygen therapies have been badly neglected in clinical medicine.

Most doctors think of oxygen only when someone is near death in an intensive care unit. This is most unfortunate, because oxygen is what breathes life into all human cells at all times, in healthful aging and in disease states.

Oxygen ushers life in. Oxygen terminates life. As I amply demonstrate in this book, oxygen is the most important healing substance, the most effective detox agent, the premium blood cleanser, the most potent antibiotic, a versatile hormone, a blood clotter and declotter, and the conductor of the orchestra of the immune system. Without oxygen, the lungs cannot breathe, the heart cannot beat, the brain cannot think, the bowel cannot digest or absorb food, and the muscles cannot move. That is all very basic and essential.

A cancer cell hates oxygen; an immune cell loves it

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Grimscythe

I remember watching a documentary once about giants... And how the last giant was supposedly ten feet tall. I can't remember what or when it was on though.

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truthist
Interesting theory, but why would such a large race of humans (assuming they were human), die out? Isn't the tallest human we have on record close to 8 feet tall? Usually tall people have large advantages in many things (Im thinking athletics), so unless these creatures had very little intellect, going off of evolution wouldn't all of us today be close to this height if not larger?

A big person needs more food, is slower, can't really move about effectively in a dense forest, probably has knee problems, and makes a lot of noise. And the hair takes ages to dry. A giant's got all the reasons to go extinct.

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crystal sage
A big person needs more food, is slower, can't really move about effectively in a dense forest, probably has knee problems, and makes a lot of noise. And the hair takes ages to dry. A giant's got all the reasons to go extinct.

:lol: limited access to physiotherapists and lack of efficient hairdryers?

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crystal sage

http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?f...ad&sid=2431

Researchers at the U.S. Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory have cast new light on why the giant insects that lived millions of years ago disappeared.

In the late Paleozoic Era, with atmospheric oxygen levels reaching record highs, some insects evolved into giants. When oxygen levels returned to lower levels, the insect giants went extinct. Now scientists are hoping to shed light on how this climatic change affected ancient life on Earth.

The basis of this gigantism is thought to lie in the insect respiratory system. In contrast to vertebrates, where blood transports oxygen from the lung to the cell, insects deliver oxygen directly through a network of blind-ending tracheal tubes. As insects get bigger, this type of oxygen transport becomes far less effective. But if the atmospheric oxygen levels increase, as they did in the late Paleozoic, then longer tracheal tubes can work. This would allow larger-sized insects - even giants - to evolve.

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http://books.google.com.au/books?id=ziVk6C...oj3Xk&hl=en

Oxygen: The Molecule that Made the World

By Nick LaneIn Oxygen, Nick Lane takes the reader on an enthralling journey as he unravels the unexpected ways in which oxygen spurred the evolution of life and death. He shows how oxygen underpins the origin of biological complexity, the birth of photosynthesis, the sudden evolution of animals, the needfor two sexes, the accelerated aging of cloned animals like Dolly the sheep, and the surprisingly long lives of bats and birds. Drawing on this grand evolutionary canvas, Oxygen offers fresh perspectives on our own lives and deaths, explaining modern killer diseases, why we age, and what we can doabout it. Advancing revelatory new ideas, following chains of evidence, the book ranges through many disciplines, from environmental sciences to molecular medicine. The result is a captivating vision of contemporary science and a humane synthesis of our place in nature. This remarkable book willredefine the way we think about the world.

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Mattshark
That's some very compelling evidence. I personally believe that giants in the ancient past is possible (if not probable), but the lack of remains is bothersome.

That is something that means it is in fact extremely improbable, lack of evidence is not just bothersome, it is in fact damning.

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Dark_Lord

They look like agricoltural fences to me. I do not see any defined pattern in these "geoglyphs".

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greenboy

What do you thing about Adam and Eve? they probably were giants too.

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/giants.html

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The People of Cain

Cain went to the land of Nod, and produced giants. They were smart educated, intelligent, builders, inventors and scientists and knew the art of metal. The Scripture says one of those giants had fourteen inch fingers. Now, your finger is just as long as your closed hand. Open it up; that would be a twenty-eight inch hand! The God of Moses commanded Moses to exterminate the whole race of these people from the Land of Canaan whom He said would corrupt their morals and pervert their heart to paganism if they intermarried or made agreements with them. Here we find the 2 opposing gods , Enlil and Enki, in the war of the gods with the people of earth being caught right in the middle , being forced to take sides .

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Kryso

Impressive! I always find it strange that when huge skeletons appear they seemed to get hushed up, or disappear?

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PersonFromPorlock
Impressive! I always find it strange that when huge skeletons appear they seemed to get hushed up, or disappear?

Well, the dog can't live on homework alone. :P

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HerNibs

The picture of the giant skeleton is a picture of a man and a little person.

I believe the man was 7'6" (rare but not unheard of). The little person was (again, from memory) 3'6". They are on display at the Mutter Museum.

Just an FYI

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Mikedegot

I believe the Book of Enoch talks about how those 200 Angels took human women as brides and produced offspring that were referred to as giants. I think Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, and Uriel are the archangels who inform God of what has happened and he had forbidden such unions of angels and humans and had the 200 angels responsible basically imprisoned until the day of judgement. I think the great flood followed shortly after and helped to wipe out the offspring, the giants.

It always struck me as a tale of an alien race interacting with us. God forbid his people, the angels, to cross-breed with us and some of them did so and he basically laid the smack down. He imprisoned his boys, killed the human women they bred with and killed the offspring. He obviously doesn't like people messing with his genetic experiments. Remember, God is supposed to be all-knowing and yet he didn't see 200 of his men getting their freak on and had to be informed of it by his chief lieutenants.

One of the 200, Azazel, was punished the most harshly because he taught us how to work with metals and make armor and weapons and various other things. Sounds like an advanced species teaching us new technology. Perhaps God wasn't ready for us to advance so quickly and wanted to observe us some more or use us as slave labor and knew that once Azazel let those secrets out we were going to become uncontrollable over time.

Anyway, there's several sources that speak of giants. I've also heard some scientists talk about theories that humans have had varying average heights throughout our history. Like at certain points in history our global average height seemed to dip to 5' tall and at some points we were taller on average than we are now. All depended on global climate and conditions.

The giants were probably just tall humans at a certain point in our evolution or they went the way of the Neanderthals, living along side us for a bit but ultimately dying out or being absorbed by our greater numbers or whatever.

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An article from Strand magazine (December,1895) reprinted in "Traces of the Elder Faiths of Ireland" by W.G. Wood-Martin mentions this fossilized giant discovered during mining operations in County Antrim, Ireland: "Pre-eminent among the most extraordinary articles ever held by a railway company is the fossilized Irish giant, which is at this moment lying at the London and North-Western Railway Company's Broad street goods depot, and a photograph of which is reproduced here. . . This monstrous figure is reputed to have been dug up by a Mr. Dyer whilst prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim. The principal measurements are: entire length, 12ft. 2in.; girth of chest, 6ft. 6in.; and length of arms, 4ft. 6in. There are six toes on the right foot. The gross weight is 2 tons 15cwt.; so that it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article of lost property in position for the Strand magazine artist. Dyer, after showing the giant in Dublin, came to England with his queer find and exhibited it in Liverpool and Manchester at sixpence, sixpence a head, attracting scientific men as well as gaping sightseers".

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An article from Strand magazine (December,1895) reprinted in "Traces of the Elder Faiths of Ireland" by W.G. Wood-Martin mentions this fossilized giant discovered during mining operations in County Antrim, Ireland: "Pre-eminent among the most extraordinary articles ever held by a railway company is the fossilized Irish giant, which is at this moment lying at the London and North-Western Railway Company's Broad street goods depot, and a photograph of which is reproduced here. . . This monstrous figure is reputed to have been dug up by a Mr. Dyer whilst prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim. The principal measurements are: entire length, 12ft. 2in.; girth of chest, 6ft. 6in.; and length of arms, 4ft. 6in. There are six toes on the right foot. The gross weight is 2 tons 15cwt.; so that it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article of lost property in position for the Strand magazine artist. Dyer, after showing the giant in Dublin, came to England with his queer find and exhibited it in Liverpool and Manchester at sixpence, sixpence a head, attracting scientific men as well as gaping sightseers".

Hark and lo tis a statue you know

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