Mahtu Posted May 25, 2008 #26 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I have to agree. For one thing, the only way to create darkness is to take away or manipulate light. Also, darkness is not solid. If you were to create darkness, you'd be bending or blocking the light, but you have to understand that it wouldn't have anything to do with lifting objects or making wormholes. It could have practical applications in distracting someone or hiding yourself for a short period of time, I guess. But not much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DfizzleShizzle Posted May 25, 2008 #27 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Sounds like some cheap anime power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbath Posted May 25, 2008 #28 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Sounds like some cheap anime power... Good to see your coming around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporkling Posted May 25, 2008 #29 Share Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) I believe its real. I mean, who knows what is a shadow? All we know about it, is that it is a result of blocking light. But can we control it? Highly debatable. Edited May 25, 2008 by Sporkling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahtu Posted May 25, 2008 #30 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I think it could be theoretically possible if someone could find a way to manipulate the light or block it in some way, but what use would it have? That's the real question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucular Posted May 25, 2008 #31 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I believe its real. I mean, who knows what is a shadow? All we know about it, is that it is a result of blocking light. Well... what don't we know about shadows, Spork? What unanswered questions which leave room for the type of claims Nanotedi is making are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahtu Posted May 25, 2008 #32 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Well Nano didn't REALLY make any claims other than the research he's done and wanting to learn techniques. He never said he could do it, just that he's been researching and wants to learn. His descriptions of the ability itself, however, do sound very farfetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakonwick Posted May 25, 2008 #33 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Controlling shadows by refracting light with mere thought. Interesting! But, highly improbable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporkling Posted May 26, 2008 #34 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Well... what don't we know about shadows, Spork? What unanswered questions which leave room for the type of claims Nanotedi is making are there? Just that we only think we know about shadows. But yet, shadows contain a lot more mystery. I think that the shadow people or something like that is some type of controlled shadow. But then thats just my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucular Posted May 26, 2008 #35 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Just that we only think we know about shadows. But yet, shadows contain a lot more mystery. I think that the shadow people or something like that is some type of controlled shadow. But then thats just my guess. Ah. So you weren't basing your opinion on any actual evidence, then? You're simply referring to another totally unproven and fairly nonsensical claim in support of the first totally unproven and fairly nonsensical claim. Surely you need more than that to go on before you make your mind up, Spork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporkling Posted May 26, 2008 #36 Share Posted May 26, 2008 No not really. Its just what I think. I base it on something that is another of the unknown. Its just an idea nuclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucular Posted May 26, 2008 #37 Share Posted May 26, 2008 No not really. Its just what I think. I base it on something that is another of the unknown. Its just an idea nuclear. Okay, it's just an idea, which is fair enough - I apologise if that came over harshly. But from where I'm sitting, it looks as if all of these sorts of claims rest only on one another - a tangled, circular chain of paranormal contingency. So it does get a bit frustrating to see "X is true, because Y is", and when you look at Y, there's no more reason to think it true than X! But again, I don't mean to sound harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wise Raven Posted May 28, 2008 #38 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Your thinking about vampires. They can manipulate shadows as transportation using even the tiniest shadow from a blade of grass or cloaking themselves and hiding with it. Those are the storys gradma would tell me when I was little on movie-night if the recorder was'nt working. Are you a vampire? Cuz' Umbrakenitics sounds like ethier the way vampires are said to have done it (which is IMPOSSIBLE for us) or is it manipulating the light of the shadow.... Look I put my hand infront of the lamp and made a bunny shadow! YAY! (is that what you mean? Cuz' even if Umbrakenisis WAS real theres not much you can do with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporkling Posted May 29, 2008 #39 Share Posted May 29, 2008 But there is a lot you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versarnwen Posted June 3, 2008 #40 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Oh for the love of... can we please stop taking words that mean things like 'shadow' and 'time' and tacking it on to 'kinesis'?! Don't mark me as a skeptic as I am very much a believer, but honestly I'm disinclined to believe the "kinetics" such as chronokinesis, umbrakinesis, biokinesis and the rest of that. Chrono in particular but I wont go into depth as to why here as the topic isn't centered around this. Shadow/darkness is merely the absence of light meaning that even if this were an actual kinetic ability you would have to take the light and put it elsewhere. You would have to literally suck the light out of the area to create shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanotedi Posted June 3, 2008 Author #41 Share Posted June 3, 2008 My reply to you, versarnwen, is this. I believe with ki, you can do anything if you know how to. Though time I am not sure how that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PulsE Posted June 4, 2008 #42 Share Posted June 4, 2008 can you guys tell me whats the difference between umbrakinesis and photokinesis as far as i know photokinesis is control of light but you know its ridiculous to have either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporkling Posted June 5, 2008 #43 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Umbrakinesis is control of darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wise Raven Posted June 9, 2008 #44 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Umbrakinesis is control of darkness. Even if Umbrakinesis is real,controling shadows would not do much,maybe 'hiding' yourself with them or changing there shapes in animal silloutes to amuse younger kids,Umbrakinesis does not sound real,even if it was theres not much point in learning it because it would'nt do much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohands Posted July 18, 2008 #45 Share Posted July 18, 2008 hmm I think darkness can create holes that can penetrate space and time...just like black holes(in my personal view) ki??? im into energy manipulation but i can't relate on how to use it to another types of kinetics hence it is just raw energy..... i'de like to know it as it would create holes, hehe i would like to teleport hence it is very hard to ride when the gasoline and energy here is very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paville Posted July 18, 2008 #46 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Yet another '-kinesis' superpower! I honestly think that if believers in psi spent half as much time thinking about how best to demonstrate their abilities as they do considering the taxonomical categorisation of different 'abilities', we'd probably all know whether they exist or not and be thinking about other things. Anyway, 'control of shadows'. Does this make any sense whatsoever? Consider the way a shadow is created - it is simply light obscured by an object which does not allow light to pass through it. That's it. What scope (or reason) is there to affect this psychically? Consider a scientific explanation for any -kinesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oderint Posted July 18, 2008 #47 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I'm a umbrokinesian (umbrokinesiologist?) I can control my own shadow, all I need is a flashlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohands Posted July 19, 2008 #48 Share Posted July 19, 2008 hehe.... i hope there is someone out there who will leave a good words on this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowsAndDust Posted July 19, 2008 #49 Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) Yet another '-kinesis' superpower! I honestly think that if believers in psi spent half as much time thinking about how best to demonstrate their abilities as they do considering the taxonomical categorisation of different 'abilities', we'd probably all know whether they exist or not and be thinking about other things. Anyway, 'control of shadows'. Does this make any sense whatsoever? Consider the way a shadow is created - it is simply light obscured by an object which does not allow light to pass through it. That's it. What scope (or reason) is there to affect this psychically? Thank god someone has some sense, was beginning to believe that the entire forum thought they were a bunch of superheroes playing God. Edited July 19, 2008 by ShadowsAndDust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valandis Posted July 19, 2008 #50 Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) No -kinesis powers aren't really as strong as you're trying to make them sound. Like Pyro-kinesis. You can't make huge fireballs and throw them around, or hydro-kinesis you can't like make tsunamies. The human brain isn't that evolved yet (if it ever will be ). And Umbra-kinesis, it doesn't make sense. You can't control shadows, because they are created by something blocking the light. If you want to move the shadow you'd have to move the thing blocking the light. And teleportation?? How is that possible? I've never heard of anyone being able to teleport. And what does that have to do with shadows? Edited July 19, 2008 by Valandis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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