fullywired Posted June 26, 2008 #26 Share Posted June 26, 2008 no but I trust the person who told me. Did the person who told you confirm the facts for themself or was it anecdotal? fullywired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullywired Posted June 26, 2008 #27 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Did the person who told you confirm the facts for themself or was it anecdotal? fullywired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 26, 2008 Author #28 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Did the person who told you confirm the facts for themself or was it anecdotal? fullywired It happened to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullywired Posted June 26, 2008 #29 Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) It happened to them So you actually spoke to the son about his "experience" fullywired Edited June 26, 2008 by fullywired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 26, 2008 Author #30 Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) So you actually spoke to the son about his "experience" fullywired yes I have spoken to several people with similar experiences. Including my mom. Edited June 26, 2008 by danielost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullywired Posted June 26, 2008 #31 Share Posted June 26, 2008 yes I have spoken to several people with similar experiences. Including my mom. The point I am trying to make is ,with paranormal experiences there are no "facts" it is all anecdotal. a case of believe it or don't fullywired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 26, 2008 Author #32 Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) The point I am trying to make is ,with paranormal experiences there are no "facts" it is all anecdotal. a case of believe it or don't fullywired Have you ever seen pluto no, same thing. I don't mean pictures of it that someone else has taken. I can point my camara at any rock in space and call it pluto how would you know. Edited June 26, 2008 by danielost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullywired Posted June 26, 2008 #33 Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) We are talking about supernatural experiences fullywired Edited June 26, 2008 by fullywired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 26, 2008 Author #34 Share Posted June 26, 2008 We are talking about supernatural experiences fullywired It is the same principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullywired Posted June 27, 2008 #35 Share Posted June 27, 2008 It is the same principle. You have lost me ????what is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradle of Fish Posted June 27, 2008 #36 Share Posted June 27, 2008 If there is an afterlife I'd prefer my loved ones are flying around exploring the universe instead of watching over the stupid things I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunDogDayze Posted June 27, 2008 #37 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Wow. Can anyone else see how this is another scare/guilt/shame/coercion tactic? Not only is God watching you, but so are all the dead people you loved. Better not slip up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoldguy Posted June 27, 2008 #38 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Realistically, no one really knows where consciousness goes after the death of the body. But if you're still going through the grieving process, it may be important for you to believe that your loved ones are watching over you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momentarylapseofreason Posted June 27, 2008 #39 Share Posted June 27, 2008 (edited) I'm not sure if souls exist or not but I am very open to the idea. Since my parents and grandparents have died I feel no presence from them whatsover even though I so much desire it. And we were very very close. It makes me so sad and confused. I told my father to give me some sign after his passing (he was an Agnostic-sometimes Deist). i did seem to communicate with my mother in dreams when she was in a coma. But I can't say it's a fact that we actually communicated. Maybe because I desired so deeply and my brain was trying to cope with that desire. My niece claims he/my father communicates with her in dreams, but she tends to be out there sometimes even though she is very intelligent. Edited June 27, 2008 by momentarylapseofreason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoldguy Posted June 27, 2008 #40 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Very sorry about your losses, momentary. IMO you know that they loved you and, if it were possible, then you would also know that they would do everything they could to be near you. They could very well, even though you can't see them. But although you can't see them or feel them at times, you still have their memories that will never go away. Also remember: You'll always love them, and you'll always be a part of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewinglife/chimera Posted June 27, 2008 #41 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Nah Im pretty sure their all dead, like how i hope too be instead of stalking my loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 28, 2008 Author #42 Share Posted June 28, 2008 You have lost me ????what is ? You are relying on someone else to tell you that Pluto is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 28, 2008 Author #43 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I'm not sure if souls exist or not but I am very open to the idea. Since my parents and grandparents have died I feel no presence from them whatsover even though I so much desire it. And we were very very close. It makes me so sad and confused. I told my father to give me some sign after his passing (he was an Agnostic-sometimes Deist). i did seem to communicate with my mother in dreams when she was in a coma. But I can't say it's a fact that we actually communicated. Maybe because I desired so deeply and my brain was trying to cope with that desire. My niece claims he/my father communicates with her in dreams, but she tends to be out there sometimes even though she is very intelligent. She may be out there that doesn't mean he isn't talking to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLivingDead Posted June 28, 2008 #44 Share Posted June 28, 2008 So if its only our loved ones that are around then the ones that were loved before us are gone? Does that make sense at all? Let me see if I can make this easier. Eventually some of my ancestors won't be around according to you because I have never loved them. Its kind of hard to love something you've never met. Ya know? I'm sure I've made this a lot harder than it needed to be. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 28, 2008 Author #45 Share Posted June 28, 2008 So if its only our loved ones that are around then the ones that were loved before us are gone? Does that make sense at all? Let me see if I can make this easier. Eventually some of my ancestors won't be around according to you because I have never loved them. Its kind of hard to love something you've never met. Ya know? I'm sure I've made this a lot harder than it needed to be. LOL. No everyone is still around. But why would those who don't know you be checking up on you. Don't understand me all souls know all souls. But it what I am talking about is the physical part of knowledge. Ie your parents know and love you. But your grandparents 5 gens. back do not have a physical knowledge of you. Do they care yes. Do they care enough to keep an eye on you, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLivingDead Posted June 28, 2008 #46 Share Posted June 28, 2008 No everyone is still around. But why would those who don't know you be checking up on you. Don't understand me all souls know all souls. But it what I am talking about is the physical part of knowledge. Ie your parents know and love you. But your grandparents 5 gens. back do not have a physical knowledge of you. Do they care yes. Do they care enough to keep an eye on you, I don't know. Man, thats a lot of souls running around. Don't you think it would get overcrowded to the point that no one else could stand around? Plus, my soul is black, and black absorbs light, so are you sure they can see my soul? Wouldn't a black soul be camoflaged since it emits no light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 28, 2008 Author #47 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Man, thats a lot of souls running around. Don't you think it would get overcrowded to the point that no one else could stand around? Plus, my soul is black, and black absorbs light, so are you sure they can see my soul? Wouldn't a black soul be camoflaged since it emits no light? remember souls are not solid. nor do they need to eat. No your soul is not black. Satans soul is not black. as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Urban Legend Posted June 28, 2008 #48 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I'd like to thank Danielost for successfully avoiding my questions and my post, which now lets me know not to respond to any post he makes in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 28, 2008 Author #49 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Ok, that's your belief. Next, the whole notion of deceased people or loved one's watching us is lunacy. Yes, I like that term, mainly because your notion of the deceased "watching us" is like having a couple more imaginary friends besides God. To help me better understand your position, what is the whole point of loved ones watching us after they die if they're powerless to do anything in the physical world if something horrible was about to happens to us? Can you imagine watching something horrible happen to one of your loved ones and your powerless to do anything about it? Seems more like torture, or hell. But some how I think your going to respond and say "they can help you in the physical world", .....if that would have been your response tell us how. Another question, if our loved ones are watching us does that including during sex, taking a crap, masturabtion, and any other personal time you'd like to have to yourself but cant have because some invisible ghost is watching, even though you'd never know??? Anyway besides you having no proof for anything said besides quoting some religious text, I'd like my questions answered. And plz don't tell me when your having sex your loved ones "choose not to watch". That would be naive in so many ways..... what is the whole point of loved ones watching us after they die if they're powerless to do anything in the physical world if something horrible was about to happens to us? if that would have been your response tell us how. Their not totally powerless, with Gods permission they can intervien. Usually by warning. if our loved ones are watching us does that including during sex, taking a crap, masturabtion, and any other personal time you'd like to have to yourself but cant have because some invisible ghost is watching, even though you'd never know??? Their not watching 100% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Urban Legend Posted June 28, 2008 #50 Share Posted June 28, 2008 what is the whole point of loved ones watching us after they die if they're powerless to do anything in the physical world if something horrible was about to happens to us? if that would have been your response tell us how. Their not totally powerless, with Gods permission they can intervien. Usually by warning. if our loved ones are watching us does that including during sex, taking a crap, masturabtion, and any other personal time you'd like to have to yourself but cant have because some invisible ghost is watching, even though you'd never know??? Their not watching 100% of the time. HOW DO YOU KNOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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