Iraq: What would happen if the U.S. won war?

[ninjadude]

I believe most of the Iraqis wants to live in peace and does not care much about their differences, and all the killings and damage is being done by a few extremist wackos.

So you either give into them or insist on coexisting.

You see that's exactly why you don't understand Iraq and the ME. I could post links but it would do no good.

[ninjadude]

The main stream media is DOMINATED by liberal partisan hacks who will bury any story that makes the US, Bush or the Republicans look good. Perhaps NBC is the worst, as they are clearly in the tank for Obama.

Must be only in Mexico

The main stream media is DOMINATED by neocon partisan hacks who will highlight any story that makes the US, Bush or the Republicans look good. Perhaps FOX is the worst, as they are clearly in the tank for McCain.

[ninjadude]

Oh no, if you root out the trouble makers and just let people live together those differences will fade eventually, there will be inter marriage, friendship established, trade and commerce eventually will erase those differences.

But you have to figth for it first.

Aroces is SOOO the "expert" in ME relations. NOT! And this has been pointed out ad naseum.

[AROCES]

Aroces is SOOO the "expert" in ME relations. NOT! And this has been pointed out ad naseum.

Me an expert? Nah, I just don't have your approach of they are all nuts and just let them kill each other.

As you can see, some do care about the innocent and not only when the innocent can be use to bash the US.

Edited August 15, 2008 by AROCES

[AROCES]

You see that's exactly why you don't understand Iraq and the ME. I could post links but it would do no good.

Explain to us then what it means when the Iraqis voted(defying those who you seem to understand), recognized the result, formed a govt and that govt is functional as it is now?

What is it that we all don't understand so far that you do?

[Aztec Warrior]

Must be only in Mexico

The main stream media is DOMINATED by neocon partisan hacks who will highlight any story that makes the US, Bush or the Republicans look good. Perhaps FOX is the worst, as they are clearly in the tank for McCain.

Ninja what are you smoking. Other than Fox news, name one mainstream media outlet that is even remotely dominated by conservatives. CNN, CNN Espanol, CNN International, nope. ABC, CBS, BBC, the New York Times, Chicago Times, Washington Post, San Francisco Times, Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, etc...etc... NOPE!

[AROCES]

Ninja what are you smoking. Other than Fox news, name one mainstream media outlet that is even remotely dominated by conservatives. CNN, CNN Espanol, CNN International, nope. ABC, CBS, BBC, the New York Times, Chicago Times, Washington Post, San Francisco Times, Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, etc...etc... NOPE!

What Ninja mean is FOX has dominated and that is not fair.

Edited August 15, 2008 by AROCES

[Lt_Ripley]

Iraq: What would happen if the U.S. won war?, but the media didn't tell the American public?

really look at that question.

that has to be the dumbest one I've seen really.

with all the BS Bush has done to feed that baby a win would be splashed everywhere so he could justify himself . he wouldn't be the lame duck he is now.

[AROCES]

with all the BS Bush has done to feed that baby a win would be splashed everywhere so he could justify himself . he wouldn't be the lame duck he is now.

Actually a situation of being a lame duck happens to all 2 term President on the last few months of their final term. And that is because the focus now is on the would be next Prseident and what their agendas might be.

[Lt_Ripley]

Actually a situation of being a lame duck happens to all 2 term President on the last few months of their final term. And that is because the focus now is on the would be next Prseident and what their agendas might be.

bush was a lame duck long before his second term.

Edited August 15, 2008 by Lt_Ripley

[Crovus v2.0]

Aroces did have it right. Majority of the people who go and blow themselves up in the streets aren't even from the area. They're called 'insurgents' because they are surging into the country from other countries just for the sake of killing those who are against their beliefs. It's not the Iraqi people themselves.

There are still those extremists who believe that Shia is the way to go, or that Sunni is the way. Either case those people are doing almost the same thing, only they tend to let everyone know "Hey, it was us." when they do it. That's the civil war side of things. And the violence really only happens in the middle of the country where the 3 regions meet.

As for the actual topic that was started....

I agree with LT. If we were to officially 'win' this war, then bush's term wouldn't look like a complete screw up through history. He would be praised more than laughed about. Well... he'd probably still be laughed about, but not quite as heavily. If we won, then his tactics to keep us here would prove to have been worth something.

I stopped watching the news outlets a long time ago because none of them like to give the full truth of matters. Either one station says all the good about whats going on over here or one says all the bad. They never give the full story. They always say "4 soldiers were killed in Iraq today." But never add "...and 500 insurgents were killed in Iraq today."

Oh, and if you keep talking about the Muslim religion as being all about violence, then you're going to p*** off a lot of people on this forum who are in fact Muslim and have been taught nothing but making peace. There's Islam, and there's extremist Islam. Just like there's Christian, and extremist. "Hey, he doesn't believe in God. He must be a devil worshiper!" This kind of mentality is ignorant at best...

Eh, that's my take.

-C

[AROCES]

bush was a lame duck long before his second term.

You telling us then that Kerry lost to a lame duck President by 3 million votes?

[InHuman]

I stopped watching the news outlets a long time ago because none of them like to give the full truth of matters. Either one station says all the good about whats going on over here or one says all the bad. They never give the full story. They always say "4 soldiers were killed in Iraq today." But never add "...and 500 insurgents were killed in Iraq today."

Any of those insurgents the sons and daughters of the people in america watching?

[danielost]

Any of those insurgents the sons and daughters of the people in america watching?

Maybe.

[danielost]

You telling us then that Kerry lost to a lame duck President by 3 million votes?

If you lost to a lame duck would you want anyone to think of him as a lame duck.

[InHuman]

Maybe.

What? So an english, american, newstation is now aiming at the Iraqi national audience?

[Lt_Ripley]

Ninja what are you smoking. Other than Fox news, name one mainstream media outlet that is even remotely dominated by conservatives. CNN, CNN Espanol, CNN International, nope. ABC, CBS, BBC, the New York Times, Chicago Times, Washington Post, San Francisco Times, Los Angeles Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, etc...etc... NOPE!

oh please -- what are you smoking ? quit the con rhetoric crap.

aside from the fact that most media now is conservative owned ..... and ABC is very con ....... remember that bull movie about 911 the made ? how pro bush anti clinton irregardless of facts ? and then tried lamely to label it semi factual ? CBS ? is actually neither . Funny , cons love the NY Times when they are writing something pro conservative.

heres a list for you -

Monitoring

* Accuracy in Media

* Media Research Center

* Parents Television Council

* Center for Media Affairs

[edit]

Outlets

* The American Spectator

o American Spectator Educational Foundation

* American Free Press [2] (see page for details on anti-Semitism)

* City Journal

* The New Republic

* The Public Interest

* NewsMax

* National Review

* The New Criterion

* The National Interest

* Reason Magazine

o Reason Foundation

* Fox News Channel

* Washington Times

* Town Hall

* Tech Central Station

* National Empowerment Television (Paul Weyrich)

* Firing Line (William F. Buckley, Jr.)

* Light and Truth, Yale school mag

[edit]

Columnists and commentators

* Oliver North

* John Stossel

* Robert Novak

* Tom Wolfe

* Andrew Sullivan

* Elizabeth McCaughey

* Richard Poe

* William F. Buckley, Jr.

[edit]

Funding

Co-ordinators:

* Philanthropy Roundtable

* Council for National Policy

* Library Court

* Leave Us Alone Coalition (Grover Norquist)

* Adolph Coors Foundation, Joseph Coors, beer brewer

o William Coors

o Paul M. Weyrich

* "Four Sisters"

o Richard Mellon Scaife, banking and oil

o John M. Olin

o Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Harry Bradley, auto parts

o Smith Richardson Foundation, Vicks VapoRub

* Koch Foundations, Koch Industries, Fred Koch, oil and natural gas

* Amoco Foundation

* Alcoa Foundation

* JM Foundation

* Rockwell International Corporation Trust

* Ford Motor Company Fund

* Howard Ahmanson, Jr

* Robert Hurtt

* Robert Krieble

* Domino's Foundation, Tom Monaghan, Domino's Pizza

[edit]

Think tanks

* American Enterprise Institute

o The American Enterprise

o Regulation

* Cato Institute

* Heritage Foundation

o Policy Review

* Analysis Research Corporation

* Ethics and Public Policy Center

* Center for the Study of Popular Culture

o Committee for Media Integrity (COMINT)

* American Legislative Exchange Council

* Americans for Tax Reform

* Commonwealth Foundation for Public Policy Alternatives

* Madison Group

* Free Congress Foundation

o Krieble Institute

* Madison Center for Educational Affairs

* National Association of Scholars

* Institute for Educational Affairs

* Center for Individual Rights

* Pacific Legal Foundation

* Wisconsin Policy Research Institute

* Heartland Institute

o Intellectual Ammunition

* Hudson Institute

o Educational Excellence Network

+ CHOICE Charitable Trust

* Manhattan Institute

* Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy

* Intercollegiate Studies Institute

* Focus on the Family

* Traditional Values Coalition

* Family Research Council

* Capitol Resource Institute

* Christian Coalition

* Concerned Women for America

* Eagle Forum

* Family Research Council

* Landmark Center for Civil Rights

* Institute for Justice

* Legatus

* National Federation of Independent Business

* National Association of Christian Educators

* Citizens for Excellence in Education

* Regent University

* Morality in Media

* Rutherford Institute

* Operation Rescue

* Committee to End State-Funded Abortions

* TEACH Michigan

* Claremont Institute

* Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies

* National Legal Center

* Council of the Conservative Caucus

* Federalist Society

* Judicial Watch

[edit]

Pundits

Executives:

* Paul M. Weyrich

* William Hammett

* Tanya Metaksa, top NRA lobbyist

* R. Marc Nuttle, VP for political affairs at Natl. Fed. for Ind. Bus.

* Clint Bolick, dir. of litigation at Institute for Justice

* Michael Horowitz dir. of Hudson Institute program on social justice

* Dinesh D'Souza

* Dr. Edwin J. Reulner Jr.

* Michael Novak

* Charles Murray

o Losing Ground

o The Bell Curve

* Richard Herrnstein

* Abigail Thernstrom

o American in Black and White

* Stephan Thernstrom

* Peter Huber

o Gaileo's Revenge

* Glenn C. Loury

* Myron Magnet

o The Dream and the Nightmare: The Sixties' Legacy to the Underclass

+ "the text for George Bush's doctrine of 'compassionate conservatism'"

+ "second only to the Bible in his pantheon"

* Frederick Lynch

* Terry Eastland

* Allan Bloom

* Thomas Wood

* Robert Bork

* Jeane Kirkpatrick

* Dick Cheney

* Lynne Cheney

* William Kristol

* Edwin Meese

* Bill Bennett

[edit]

More

* BoycottCBS.com

Need to be integrated above (from Republican Noise Machine's index):

* Donald E. Abelson

* Elliott Abrams

* Bella Abzug

* Accuracy in Media

* Theodore W. Adorno

* Spiro T. Agnew

* Agronsky & Company

* Howard F. Ahmanson Jr.

* Roger Ailes

* Diane Alden

* Gary Aldrich

* Shana Alexander

* Jodie Allen

* Gordon Allott

* Joseph Alsop

* Richard Amberg

* Jay Ambrose

* American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research

o American Enterprise

o Public Opinion

o Think Tank

* American Freedom Coalition

* American Independent Party

* American Journalism Review

* American Legal Foundation

* American Prowler

* Americans for Tax Reform

* The American Spectator

* American University Law Review (American University)

* America's Black Forum

* Barbara Amiel

* Brian C. Anderson

* Jack N. Anderson

* Walter Annenberg

* Gene Antonio

* Keith Appel

* Anne Applebaum

* Roone Arledge

* Arlington House

* Dick Armey

* Rev. Ben Armstrong

* John Ashcroft

* David Asman

* Lee Atwater

* Dennis Avery

* Jed Babbin

* Ben H. Bagdikan

* Chuck Baker

* Jim and Tammy Faye Baker

* Steve Baldwin

* Doug Bandow

* David C. Barker

* Thomas Barnard

* Fred Barnes

* Michael Barone

* William J. Baroody, Sr.

* Bruce Bartlett

* Robert L. Barley

* Basic Books

* Rekha Basu

* Barbara Battalino

* Gary Bauer

* William Beach

* Glenn Beck

* Bob Beckel

* Before the Fall (William Safire)

* Paul Begala

* Peter Beinart

* The Bell Curve

* Adam Bellow

* Saul Bellow

* William Bennett

* Alan Berg

* Peter Bergen

* Lowell Bergman

* Joe Biden

* Jeff Birnbaum

* Lord Conrad Black

* Morton Blackwell

* Jayson Blair

* Tony Blankley

* Wolf Blitzer

* Allan Bloom

* Sidney Blumenthal

* David Boaz

* Louis Boccardi

* Hal Boedecker

* Eric Boehlert

* William Bolster

* Rich Bond

* Raymond Bonner

* Neal Booortz

* Max Boot

* Arnaud de Borchgrave

* Gloria Borger

* Ellen Bork

* Robert H. Bork

* Bob Bork

* Boston Globe

* Robert Bothwell

* Peter J. Boyer

* L. Brent Bozell III

* L. Brent Bozell Jr.

* Tom Braden

* Ben Bradlee

* Bill Bradley

* David Bradley

* Bradley Foundation

* Donna Brazile

* Andrew Breitbart

* Phil Brennan

* William Brennan

* Brill's Content

* David Brinkley

* Broadcasting

* Juanita Broaddrick

* David S. Broder

* Tom Broka

* Richard Brookhiser

* Brookings Institution

* David Brooks

* Joyce Brothers

* Aaron Brown

* Ron Brown

* Tina Brown

* Tony Brown

* Ronbald Brwnstein

* Tammy Bruce

* Pat Buchanan

* Bay Buchanan

* Art Buchwald

* Priscilla Buckley

* Lou Dobbs

* Resources for the Future

All Con - happy now ?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...;_organizations

Edited August 17, 2008 by Lt_Ripley

[Lt_Ripley]

Aroces did have it right. Majority of the people who go and blow themselves up in the streets aren't even from the area. They're called 'insurgents' because they are surging into the country from other countries just for the sake of killing those who are against their beliefs. It's not the Iraqi people themselves.

There are still those extremists who believe that Shia is the way to go, or that Sunni is the way. Either case those people are doing almost the same thing, only they tend to let everyone know "Hey, it was us." when they do it. That's the civil war side of things. And the violence really only happens in the middle of the country where the 3 regions meet.

As for the actual topic that was started....

I agree with LT. If we were to officially 'win' this war, then bush's term wouldn't look like a complete screw up through history. He would be praised more than laughed about. Well... he'd probably still be laughed about, but not quite as heavily. If we won, then his tactics to keep us here would prove to have been worth something.

I stopped watching the news outlets a long time ago because none of them like to give the full truth of matters. Either one station says all the good about whats going on over here or one says all the bad. They never give the full story. They always say "4 soldiers were killed in Iraq today." But never add "...and 500 insurgents were killed in Iraq today."

Oh, and if you keep talking about the Muslim religion as being all about violence, then you're going to p*** off a lot of people on this forum who are in fact Muslim and have been taught nothing but making peace. There's Islam, and there's extremist Islam. Just like there's Christian, and extremist. "Hey, he doesn't believe in God. He must be a devil worshiper!" This kind of mentality is ignorant at best...

Eh, that's my take.

-C

you can't get the full truth on almost anything via American media . still the leftist sites does better at presenting facts but even there it's a slippery slope . the best is reading news from the area , out of the country , taking a round view and cutting threw the crap. Most times , like with Georgia , it's best to sit on it and let facts come out than to charge on it blindly .

the first reports had the US sounding like some sort of saints when it wasn't the case . It had Russia rolling in military for no reason , without provocation on it's boarders.when that wasn't the case. And it made Georgia look like some innocent when it has done it's part in seeding this confrontation.

[danielost]

What? So an english, american, newstation is now aiming at the Iraqi national audience?

No but several Americans were captured in Afghanistan as enemy combatants. At least one british citizen tried to blow up an airplane in the name of allah.

[puridalan]

oh please -- what are you smoking ? quit the con rhetoric crap.

aside from the fact that most media now is conservative owned ..... and ABC is very con ....... remember that bull movie about 911 the made ? how pro bush anti clinton irregardless of facts ? and then tried lamely to label it semi factual ? CBS ? is actually neither . Funny , cons love the NY Times when they are writing something pro conservative.

heres a list for you -

Monitoring

* Accuracy in Media

* Media Research Center

* Parents Television Council

* Center for Media Affairs

[edit]

Outlets

* The American Spectator

o American Spectator Educational Foundation

* American Free Press [2] (see page for details on anti-Semitism)

* City Journal

* The New Republic

* The Public Interest

* NewsMax

* National Review

* The New Criterion

* The National Interest

* Reason Magazine

o Reason Foundation

* Fox News Channel

* Washington Times

* Town Hall

* Tech Central Station

* National Empowerment Television (Paul Weyrich)

* Firing Line (William F. Buckley, Jr.)

* Light and Truth, Yale school mag

[edit]

Columnists and commentators

* Oliver North

* John Stossel

* Robert Novak

* Tom Wolfe

* Andrew Sullivan

* Elizabeth McCaughey

* Richard Poe

* William F. Buckley, Jr.

[edit]

Funding

Co-ordinators:

* Philanthropy Roundtable

* Council for National Policy

* Library Court

* Leave Us Alone Coalition (Grover Norquist)

* Adolph Coors Foundation, Joseph Coors, beer brewer

o William Coors

o Paul M. Weyrich

* "Four Sisters"

o Richard Mellon Scaife, banking and oil

o John M. Olin

o Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Harry Bradley, auto parts

o Smith Richardson Foundation, Vicks VapoRub

* Koch Foundations, Koch Industries, Fred Koch, oil and natural gas

* Amoco Foundation

* Alcoa Foundation

* JM Foundation

* Rockwell International Corporation Trust

* Ford Motor Company Fund

* Howard Ahmanson, Jr

* Robert Hurtt

* Robert Krieble

* Domino's Foundation, Tom Monaghan, Domino's Pizza

[edit]

Think tanks

* American Enterprise Institute

o The American Enterprise

o Regulation

* Cato Institute

* Heritage Foundation

o Policy Review

* Analysis Research Corporation

* Ethics and Public Policy Center

* Center for the Study of Popular Culture

o Committee for Media Integrity (COMINT)

* American Legislative Exchange Council

* Americans for Tax Reform

* Commonwealth Foundation for Public Policy Alternatives

* Madison Group

* Free Congress Foundation

o Krieble Institute

* Madison Center for Educational Affairs

* National Association of Scholars

* Institute for Educational Affairs

* Center for Individual Rights

* Pacific Legal Foundation

* Wisconsin Policy Research Institute

* Heartland Institute

o Intellectual Ammunition

* Hudson Institute

o Educational Excellence Network

+ CHOICE Charitable Trust

* Manhattan Institute

* Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy

* Intercollegiate Studies Institute

* Focus on the Family

* Traditional Values Coalition

* Family Research Council

* Capitol Resource Institute

* Christian Coalition

* Concerned Women for America

* Eagle Forum

* Family Research Council

* Landmark Center for Civil Rights

* Institute for Justice

* Legatus

* National Federation of Independent Business

* National Association of Christian Educators

* Citizens for Excellence in Education

* Regent University

* Morality in Media

* Rutherford Institute

* Operation Rescue

* Committee to End State-Funded Abortions

* TEACH Michigan

* Claremont Institute

* Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies

* National Legal Center

* Council of the Conservative Caucus

* Federalist Society

* Judicial Watch

[edit]

Pundits

Executives:

* Paul M. Weyrich

* William Hammett

* Tanya Metaksa, top NRA lobbyist

* R. Marc Nuttle, VP for political affairs at Natl. Fed. for Ind. Bus.

* Clint Bolick, dir. of litigation at Institute for Justice

* Michael Horowitz dir. of Hudson Institute program on social justice

* Dinesh D'Souza

* Dr. Edwin J. Reulner Jr.

* Michael Novak

* Charles Murray

o Losing Ground

o The Bell Curve

* Richard Herrnstein

* Abigail Thernstrom

o American in Black and White

* Stephan Thernstrom

* Peter Huber

o Gaileo's Revenge

* Glenn C. Loury

* Myron Magnet

o The Dream and the Nightmare: The Sixties' Legacy to the Underclass

+ "the text for George Bush's doctrine of 'compassionate conservatism'"

+ "second only to the Bible in his pantheon"

* Frederick Lynch

* Terry Eastland

* Allan Bloom

* Thomas Wood

* Robert Bork

* Jeane Kirkpatrick

* Dick Cheney

* Lynne Cheney

* William Kristol

* Edwin Meese

* Bill Bennett

[edit]

More

* BoycottCBS.com

Need to be integrated above (from Republican Noise Machine's index):

* Donald E. Abelson

* Elliott Abrams

* Bella Abzug

* Accuracy in Media

* Theodore W. Adorno

* Spiro T. Agnew

* Agronsky & Company

* Howard F. Ahmanson Jr.

* Roger Ailes

* Diane Alden

* Gary Aldrich

* Shana Alexander

* Jodie Allen

* Gordon Allott

* Joseph Alsop

* Richard Amberg

* Jay Ambrose

* American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research

o American Enterprise

o Public Opinion

o Think Tank

* American Freedom Coalition

* American Independent Party

* American Journalism Review

* American Legal Foundation

* American Prowler

* Americans for Tax Reform

* The American Spectator

* American University Law Review (American University)

* America's Black Forum

* Barbara Amiel

* Brian C. Anderson

* Jack N. Anderson

* Walter Annenberg

* Gene Antonio

* Keith Appel

* Anne Applebaum

* Roone Arledge

* Arlington House

* Dick Armey

* Rev. Ben Armstrong

* John Ashcroft

* David Asman

* Lee Atwater

* Dennis Avery

* Jed Babbin

* Ben H. Bagdikan

* Chuck Baker

* Jim and Tammy Faye Baker

* Steve Baldwin

* Doug Bandow

* David C. Barker

* Thomas Barnard

* Fred Barnes

* Michael Barone

* William J. Baroody, Sr.

* Bruce Bartlett

* Robert L. Barley

* Basic Books

* Rekha Basu

* Barbara Battalino

* Gary Bauer

* William Beach

* Glenn Beck

* Bob Beckel

* Before the Fall (William Safire)

* Paul Begala

* Peter Beinart

* The Bell Curve

* Adam Bellow

* Saul Bellow

* William Bennett

* Alan Berg

* Peter Bergen

* Lowell Bergman

* Joe Biden

* Jeff Birnbaum

* Lord Conrad Black

* Morton Blackwell

* Jayson Blair

* Tony Blankley

* Wolf Blitzer

* Allan Bloom

* Sidney Blumenthal

* David Boaz

* Louis Boccardi

* Hal Boedecker

* Eric Boehlert

* William Bolster

* Rich Bond

* Raymond Bonner

* Neal Booortz

* Max Boot

* Arnaud de Borchgrave

* Gloria Borger

* Ellen Bork

* Robert H. Bork

* Bob Bork

* Boston Globe

* Robert Bothwell

* Peter J. Boyer

* L. Brent Bozell III

* L. Brent Bozell Jr.

* Tom Braden

* Ben Bradlee

* Bill Bradley

* David Bradley

* Bradley Foundation

* Donna Brazile

* Andrew Breitbart

* Phil Brennan

* William Brennan

* Brill's Content

* David Brinkley

* Broadcasting

* Juanita Broaddrick

* David S. Broder

* Tom Broka

* Richard Brookhiser

* Brookings Institution

* David Brooks

* Joyce Brothers

* Aaron Brown

* Ron Brown

* Tina Brown

* Tony Brown

* Ronbald Brwnstein

* Tammy Bruce

* Pat Buchanan

* Bay Buchanan

* Art Buchwald

* Priscilla Buckley

* Lou Dobbs

* Resources for the Future

All Con - happy now ?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...;_organizations

Em this really doesn't have much to do with anything. Except sometimes when I skim over certain words I get negative subconcious feelings, and when I skimmed through the names I got a really negative vibe off of the last part of boycottCBS.com one of men can't pinpoint it yet, seemed to be some assult or something

[InHuman]

No but several Americans were captured in Afghanistan as enemy combatants. At least one british citizen tried to blow up an airplane in the name of allah.

Do you get the point about covering soldiers death in the news but not that of enemy combatants?

[Lt_Ripley]

Em this really doesn't have much to do with anything. Except sometimes when I skim over certain words I get negative subconcious feelings, and when I skimmed through the names I got a really negative vibe off of the last part of boycottCBS.com one of men can't pinpoint it yet, seemed to be some assult or something

boycottCBS. - I believe was when all those papers came out about Bush and were found to be false. ( yet not all were) the whole AWOL thing ( which Bush has yet to prove he wasn't.) So cons were wanting to boycott CBS. I don't know if they still are.

[puridalan]

boycottCBS. - I believe was when all those papers came out about Bush and were found to be false. ( yet not all were) the whole AWOL thing ( which Bush has yet to prove he wasn't.) So cons were wanting to boycott CBS. I don't know if they still are.

No I mean a specific person under the CBSboycott list that you gave me, is a really bad person, male at the middle bottom of the list...that's when my thoughts just stopped. But thanks anyways.

[Aztec Warrior]

oh please -- what are you smoking ? quit the con rhetoric crap.

aside from the fact that most media now is conservative owned ..... and ABC is very con ....... remember that bull movie about 911 the made ? how pro bush anti clinton irregardless of facts ? and then tried lamely to label it semi factual ? CBS ? is actually neither . Funny , cons love the NY Times when they are writing something pro conservative.

heres a list for you -

Monitoring

* Accuracy in Media

* Media Research Center

* Parents Television Council

* Center for Media Affairs

[edit]

Outlets

* The American Spectator

o American Spectator Educational Foundation

* American Free Press [2] (see page for details on anti-Semitism)

* City Journal

* The New Republic

* The Public Interest

* NewsMax

* National Review

* The New Criterion

* The National Interest

* Reason Magazine

o Reason Foundation

* Fox News Channel

* Washington Times

* Town Hall

* Tech Central Station

* National Empowerment Television (Paul Weyrich)

* Firing Line (William F. Buckley, Jr.)

* Light and Truth, Yale school mag

[edit]

Columnists and commentators

*

[edit]

Funding

[edit]

Think tanks

All Con - happy now ?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title...;_organizations

You listed only one or possible two MAIN STREAM MEDIA OUTLETS. Fox News and perhaps the Washington Times. Think tanks, reporters and commentator's are NOT main stream media. Do you even understand the term?

Simple re-posting your liberal crap, as you do on a daily basis just proves to me your inability to independently think.

[AROCES]

you can't get the full truth on almost anything via American media . still the leftist sites does better at presenting facts but even there it's a slippery slope . the best is reading news from the area , out of the country , taking a round view and cutting threw the crap.

In other words, tabloids and gossip columns.

Out of the country???

Most times , like with Georgia , it's best to sit on it and let facts come out than to charge on it blindly .

the first reports had the US sounding like some sort of saints when it wasn't the case . It had Russia rolling in military for no reason , without provocation on it's boarders.when that wasn't the case. And it made Georgia look like some innocent when it has done it's part in seeding this confrontation.

Nope, no one said that Russia just went to war for nothing. Funny though that when it's the Russian who uses force to settle a dispute you suddenly had nothing to say and seem trying to understand the use of force.

Edited August 17, 2008 by AROCES