Find yourself in someone elses body in sleep?

[darkbreed]

Saturnrings:

I found this quote from the Seth material you presented for me:

“When I tell you that you lived, for example, in 1836, I say this because it makes sense to you now. You live all of your reincarnations at once, but you find this difficult to understand.” (From the book: THE SETH MATERIAL)

That is quite interesting as it fits with my own experiences that seem to suggest that indeed there are multiple parallel worlds with various versions of ourselves, and this could fit into what is stated in the quote above.

So perhaps, this is close to the answer of what these experiences are about, perhaps I have somehow for brief moments of time experienced my other incarnations and that could also explain how I could get into the body of these incarnations as they are "me" after all and thus should be rather calibrated for my soul/astral body as I assume it would be on a frequency very different for each other individual, but more close and specific for personal incarnations/reincarnations.

Also taking in account that my experiences seemed to be from other time periods than this one (the war experience mentioned originally in this thread seemed to be from earlier times, as weapons and planes etc were very old style and bombs were just dropped, no missiles etc, and the ship I was on seemed pretty old too. And my second experience I went to a future parallel version of this world and my own life which I managed to find out there. The last experience I ended too quickly to gather any info).

For me this seems a possibility and I will look more into it and do some research on the astral planes and check with some of my master guides there and akashic records etc. I've previously been shown past lives there which I got enough information about to verify, so it could be a good place to try get some more information on these experiences as well.

That's my last words for tonight, goodnight and see ya!

-Peace be with you

Edward Alexander

[saturnrings]

Indeed, the purpose of the rituals, spells, and what not, is to strengthen the power, or rather the effect of ones intention, by believing or living into the performance. Although certain symbols and such do contain an energy in them already, as symbols, and any object really, in my experience can be charged with energy for a specific purpose. But in true reality, none of it is necessary, it is all about ones mind in any case. Personally though I enjoy performing rituals as well as normal meditations where I do all the work on the inner plane.

Regarding what you read in a book, or learn in any system, of course you have to use your own intuition and reasoning and personal experience to decide whether it is like the way presented or not - sometimes there are many ways that lead to the same ocean as well keep in mind. Also, I think that the books may come to us, and not the other way, as everything is connected and has its purpose, so when "the student is ready the Master will appear". And this can be in the form of a book written by someone who knows their stuff. From my own work and experiences, I've seem to have gotten closer and close to this sort of "synchronization" where the right things come up at the right moment in my life and thus enhances me and my being and the understanding of myself, others, existence, God concept and so on.

Regarding experiences one may have, personally I do what I can to make sure they can be verified and through the years I've had so many verifications on all kinds of different experiences that there is little doubt regarding them being real or an overactive imagination. And of course one should always have this in mind, fantasy is a natural part of the human mentality, and it can bring up some fantastic stuff.

Truth can be experience and explained in different ways, so there are variations to what is real and not from one person to another.

That is my opinion in any case =)

Anyway, this is getting a bit off topic here now so I'll try let the thread back onto it's original topic and perhaps we can discuss these things elsewhere

Best regards and love be with you,

Edward Alexander

glad that you lead a happy life, this is a very positive thing and the balanced way to reach out for the stars

yep agreed on the rest of the post

I'm sure other people learn from these posts (ahem) the ones interested

yes it varies as you say, and most of the systems albeit 'intertwined', spur from the same source and conclude wherever one's free will lead him /her.

regards

saturnrings

[saturnrings]

Saturnrings:

I found this quote from the Seth material you presented for me:

“When I tell you that you lived, for example, in 1836, I say this because it makes sense to you now. You live all of your reincarnations at once, but you find this difficult to understand.” (From the book: THE SETH MATERIAL)

That is quite interesting as it fits with my own experiences that seem to suggest that indeed there are multiple parallel worlds with various versions of ourselves, and this could fit into what is stated in the quote above.

So perhaps, this is close to the answer of what these experiences are about, perhaps I have somehow for brief moments of time experienced my other incarnations and that could also explain how I could get into the body of these incarnations as they are "me" after all and thus should be rather calibrated for my soul/astral body as I assume it would be on a frequency very different for each other individual, but more close and specific for personal incarnations/reincarnations.

Also taking in account that my experiences seemed to be from other time periods than this one (the war experience mentioned originally in this thread seemed to be from earlier times, as weapons and planes etc were very old style and bombs were just dropped, no missiles etc, and the ship I was on seemed pretty old too. And my second experience I went to a future parallel version of this world and my own life which I managed to find out there. The last experience I ended too quickly to gather any info).

For me this seems a possibility and I will look more into it and do some research on the astral planes and check with some of my master guides there and akashic records etc. I've previously been shown past lives there which I got enough information about to verify, so it could be a good place to try get some more information on these experiences as well.

That's my last words for tonight, goodnight and see ya!

-Peace be with you

Edward Alexander

yes 'seth speaks' is a good one, glad you find it interesting

x

[Synopsis]

im dying to ask you, but i do understand what you say about not wanting to talk about it here.....

could you possibly give us a clue as to what /how is happened?

if i pm you my email would you like to talk about it?

lemme know cheers

i would like to learn about it because i would like to compare experiences......damn it.........sad we cant talk openly....

I suppose... I know how the process worked to some level but initiating it was is still something that was just felt out and hard to explain.

and as for the subconscious... I recognize it as the true desires and true self uninhibited by the ego.

PM me and we'll talk.

[puridalan]

hahah I have to disagree with the blonde hair/red hair blue eyes thing, on one side of my family a ton of them have either naturally blonde hair/blue eye a very few with red. Those that I've talked to do not have any of these type of stories. I've also talked to other members of my family who have had similiar type situations that are neither of those and are more receptive. I myself have neither blonde/red hair or blue eyes and see these things. I think that is actually a myth and means nothing, though it does have something to do with the AB trait but that's another story.

[darkbreed]

Ok, so last night I went to my astral sanctum and met my Guide ("Gatekeeper", whom guards the "portal" to my personal astral sanctum).

Not going into too much details about all the things I did, but I'll explain the main event that took place and which was the reason I went there. I met one of my Masters ("teacher", "ascended being", what you want) and asked him if he could show me the purpose of these experiences where I find myself in other peoples bodies.

The communication and way of receiving answers in this realm is a bit (extremely really) different than here in the physical plane. First of all it's telepathic. So, when communicating in a wordly way so to speak, where I have the questions formulated as words in my mind the answer is often received before I can completely finish formulating the question. So communication is very fast and instant. Another form of communication that is more frequent when "answers" are shown to me, is that it is not in any verbal form but more a visual form, as living images, or a complex presentation shown in my mind.

So in any case, the answer I received was in this complex way so I can't put it into excact words, but I will try word is as close to what I was shown as I can:

Basically he told me that the reasons for these experiences was a part of my spiritual development and understanding of my self and true being. It was revealed to me that these other people are other aspects of myself, or incarnations if you want, and that I had been experiencing these moments of time in these other bodies to see that reality is that we are more than "one" physical and spiritual being. I was shown that, which I can only explain as a myriad of parallel alternate versions of myself, exists in the same moment and their development unfolds together with my own, and that all of my other selves are connected to a "higher self" or "soul" and that what these physical bodies have within them is only a portion of that complete soul, such as our astral bodies etc, like branches of a tree and leaves on the branches. Ultimately, we develop ourselves inwards, and not outwards, meaning that each of my selves will not "expand" in consciousness and physical and spiritual development, but rather "implode" into that "higher soul" or "true being" that I am - and that the experiences of all my alternate selves will at some moment merge with this "higher soul" and create a Oneness where I will experience myself from a completely new perspective and see myself as the being I really am. Then, I will as this new "Oneness" become "free" from the current location where I am (or rather where the "higer soul" is located) and "ascend" to higher realms and be free of all physical bonds and continue the spiritual and mental development and understanding. But there is more after this "Oneness" is achieved too, higher "realms" and new things to discover about reality of Being and Existence, but I asked him to end it there as I had been shown what I was wondering about and wanted to leave the rest up to when the time comes.

So that is how it was revealed to me at last in regards of my personal experiences. It certainly gave me some new insights and perspectives and I do feel more settled and calm now when it comes to these experiences.

I felt like I should share this part of what I experienced in my astral sanctum here as it may be interesting or spread some insights/reflections to others whom have had similar experiences. Perhaps to other people as well. There are other parts that happened that is of a more personal level and serves no purpose to share.

And this is what I gathered, it is obviously something that can not easily be verified so I will consider it a most likely possibility rather than say that I now "know" that this is really it. But in any case it provided me with some really interesting new experiences and insights into my own mind and spirit if nothing else =)

Thanks, and peace profound!

-Edward Alexander

[devilmaycare]

Well, I would say that what you have been dreaming was not true dreaming at all. Nor was it astral projection. I somewhat skipped to your last post (& read it). You can dream of whatever you want, aside from eating and sex, and make it as real as you like. These are just you exercising a little energy but in effect wasting it as well because as I said it was not a form of astral projection nor was it true dreaming. By questioning us you are really only questioning yourself. You need purpose and focus plus tons of energy in order to dream something worth talking about.

Edited August 16, 2008 by devilmaycare

[Avius]

it is possible to travel to different bodys threw white portals that contructs can make

[saturnrings]

hahah I have to disagree with the blonde hair/red hair blue eyes thing, on one side of my family a ton of them have either naturally blonde hair/blue eye a very few with red. Those that I've talked to do not have any of these type of stories. I've also talked to other members of my family who have had similiar type situations that are neither of those and are more receptive. I myself have neither blonde/red hair or blue eyes and see these things. I think that is actually a myth and means nothing, though it does have something to do with the AB trait but that's another story.

no need to be so linear in your opinions...i have read it in a book and I'm trying to get info regarding DNA etc

no good idea to prod me coz if i behave in the same way, i will not make an effort to tell you what the case may be.....

prudence is much better that retaliation

[puridalan]

it is possible to travel to different bodys threw white portals that contructs can make

I've never done that, though it really depends on how your mind works. I go in different bodies, by doing this 'blank stare', some of them are not done on purpose, but a need for them. In a lot of cases the person wants to be heard/needs to be and usually are in extreme mental/physical pain or going to be, like their subconcious reaches out to you. Sometimes I think of it like the prairie dog system. One alerts the others with body signals and so forth to warn the rest of the group. I do not see it as a white portal, but rather can see the (I think) electrica/chemical energy of the body bits and pieces transfer to another location/person. Your body is still the same and in fact you can still see everything that is going on around you in person, while you are in another place. I would describe the film over your eyes that you see as a transulcent piece of paper almost like saran rap, but not as dense. Same thing with seeings people energy, I can't always see the color of the aura right away, but I can always see the vibrations outling it in the same 'swoosh' color motion that has no color really but it's almost like a heatwave in essence.

It's not like you see the person's inside skull, the only part I've seen before being placed in is like this 'black' pit in the head that shifts you into the eyes of the person so you can virtually see what they see. Sometimes I've tried it to where you are not actually directly looking at the person, but looking at what they are focusing on.

[saturnrings]

I've never done that, though it really depends on how your mind works. I go in different bodies, by doing this 'blank stare', some of them are not done on .

It's not like you see the person's inside skull, the only part I've seen before being placed in is like this 'black' pit in the head that shifts you into the eyes of the person so you can virtually see what they see. Sometimes I've tried it to where you are not actually directly looking at the person, but looking at what they are focusing on.

have you induced this expereince by using drugs and if yes what short?

[puridalan]

have you induced this expereince by using drugs and if yes what short?

Nope haha none at all. Though I have had a few near death expierences. But I've had all brain scans run including: CT scan with/o dy, lots of MRI's, multiple EEGS, SPECT scan, and an MRI scan of the pituitary.

All of them clear me of any sort of brain damage, tumor ect. I've only been given prescription drugs, they don't work on my body right. They've given me narxotics including morphine, codine

and here are a few others:morphine, maxsalt, imatrex, ambient, muscle relaxers, numerous other narcotics, topamax, ib, Tylenol, keflax, lunesta...and seriously I have cabinets of prescription drugs that never helped me like eleval (I know I spelled it wrong, but I'd have to dig it out of one of the cabinets) used for bp, but used differently in my case

Ex. I'd take a midrin and six benyadril and I wouldn't feel a bit sleepy. I just get all the bad side effects or none at all I guess. I am not on any drugs anymore, nor will I ever need them. I'd never have an addiction and never had any hallucinations from any of them.

The only one I sort of did was on morphine with a mix of other drugs. And that was because of the lumbar puncture taking over an 1 and 30 min. and it's suppose to take five minutes. What I expierenced was rather funny I though at first I was on the computer on the screen on a certain site, talking to people. Then I said no to myself, and it stopped it, and it would recome up and I'd be like oo how nice, then I'd say no no and I'd remember I was there, I still could see where I was at and that only lasted for about 4 minutes.

Edited August 16, 2008 by puridalan

[saturnrings]

Nope haha none at all. Though I have had a few near death expierences. But I've had all brain scans run including: CT scan with/o dy, lots of MRI's, multiple EEGS, SPECT scan, and an MRI scan of the pituitary.

The only one I sort of did was on morphine with a mix of other drugs. And that was because of the lumbar puncture taking over an 1 and 30 min. and it's suppose to take five minutes. What I expierenced was rather funny I though at first I was on the computer on the screen on a certain site, talking to people. Then I said no to myself, and it stopped it, and it would recome up and I'd be like oo how nice, then I'd say no no and I'd remember I was there, I still could see where I was at and that only lasted for about 4 minutes.

why do you take all these drugs for? what is the actual problem if any?

[puridalan]

why do you take all these drugs for? what is the actual problem if any?

More like why DID I and I had serious health issues. I literally had a constant headache (I am going to write a book about it or hope to) and no one could figure it out for years, with a list of other problems tagging along with it.

i was tested from everything from simple allergies to lupus. And went across the country to doctors, none which could help. Then recently I met a specialist different from most of them and he found a way to fix me without drugs (because they've tried all of them on me but none of them ever worked) and it had to do with my pancreas and liver and I could go on and on. Basic problem was living with a headache constantly, if you've ever just had a headache for a day, imagine that since 2005...and finally it got so bad I went to the ER three times in less than a month. That's when they did the spinal tap and stuff, but they couldn't help me. Only thing they did do is when I went about six days without sleep gave me iv of sedatives to sleep, which worked for 3 hrs...but best sleep ever haha

Now I am a lot healthier and keep on striving to get completely rid of them ^^

Do you use drugs though to get in those trances? If you do don't have anything against it though

Edited August 16, 2008 by puridalan

[saturnrings]

More like why DID I and I had serious health issues. I literally had a constant headache (I am going to write a book about it or hope to) and no one could figure it out for years, with a list of other problems tagging along with it.

Now I am a lot healthier and keep on striving to get completely rid of them ^^

Do you use drugs though to get in those trances? If you do don't have anything against it though

i smoked for 15 years and almost got alcoholic after 11 years of drinking....so yes i had close calls in many occasions but never actually happened....yanno survival instinct got the better of me.

now in the age of 35 -6 i don't smoke or drink and live a very ascetic life

i have read alots about various subjects but never have practised anything, so trances and the rest are good to talk about but never done anything.

darkbreed is a good match for discussion and hopefully I'm gonna 'corner him again', to talk about his practises (IF he wants to)

look after yourself...huh?

x

Edited August 16, 2008 by saturnrings

[puridalan]

i smoked for 15 years and almost got alcoholic after 11 years of drinking....so yes i had close calls in many occasions but never actually happened....yanno survival instinct got the better of me.

now in the age of 35 -6 i don't smoke or drink and live a very ascetic life

i have read alots about various subjects but never have practised anything, so trances and the rest are good to talk about but never done anything.

darkbreed is a good match for discussion and hopefully I'm gonna 'corner him again', to talk about his practises (IF he wants to)

look after yourself...huh?

x

I try not to read into messages, but this one (don't get me wrong) was very negative am I correct haha

Ciao

[darkbreed]

Of course I want to =)

I'm always interested in discussing my own practices and hearing about other peoples practices etc.

Any comment's regarding my last experience mentioned on top of this page btw?

PS. Good to hear you got off the drugs'n alcohol

Blessings,

Edward Alexander

i have read alots about various subjects but never have practised anything, so trances and the rest are good to talk about but never done anything.

darkbreed is a good match for discussion and hopefully I'm gonna 'corner him again', to talk about his practises (IF he wants to)

[Radian]

Basically he told me that the reasons for these experiences was a part of my spiritual development and understanding of my self and true being. It was revealed to me that these other people are other aspects of myself, or incarnations if you want, and that I had been experiencing these moments of time in these other bodies to see that reality is that we are more than "one" physical and spiritual being. I was shown that, which I can only explain as a myriad of parallel alternate versions of myself, exists in the same moment and their development unfolds together with my own, and that all of my other selves are connected to a "higher self" or "soul" and that what these physical bodies have within them is only a portion of that complete soul, such as our astral bodies etc, like branches of a tree and leaves on the branches. Ultimately, we develop ourselves inwards, and not outwards, meaning that each of my selves will not "expand" in consciousness and physical and spiritual development, but rather "implode" into that "higher soul" or "true being" that I am - and that the experiences of all my alternate selves will at some moment merge with this "higher soul" and create a Oneness where I will experience myself from a completely new perspective and see myself as the being I really am. Then, I will as this new "Oneness" become "free" from the current location where I am (or rather where the "higer soul" is located) and "ascend" to higher realms and be free of all physical bonds and continue the spiritual and mental development and understanding. But there is more after this "Oneness" is achieved too, higher "realms" and new things to discover about reality of Being and Existence, but I asked him to end it there as I had been shown what I was wondering about and wanted to leave the rest up to when the time comes.

-Edward Alexander

So, you're saying there are other parts of ourselves in other dimensions? Each of these selves contain a partial soul.. when added up it's one higher self- this '"oneness??'"

They are all unique in different dimensions - co- exist at same time?

Are these other partial souls conscious of itself? Which is host? I'm not sure if I understand..

[puridalan]

Shankpin, if you don't mind me putting in my two cents.

But I think of us-energy as the water cycle (really proton transference) but most grasp the water cycle easier. The water is up in the sky, falls down, gets absorbed in various different places and so forth, and then some of it evaporates. The water itself remains constant never changing, though the places it goes to always does...transference. "Matter can be neither created nor destroyed" really only transferred. So, think of humans never losing the energy, just bits and pieces being placed into different people. Some people die automatically and go straight up, others float around for a long time, even when you do go to 'heaven' a lot of times you 'reincarnate' to maintain the constant energy balance. By the end of the day energy is just energy, composed by unique features always the same yet different. A lot of times energy will be passed down genetically from family to family but skip multiple generations, like a rotator just like the water. Em, hopefully I haven' confused you to death. But I believe that the soul is not just one big round glob, but rather energy from tons of things over the years...but all of it is energy none the less.

[darkbreed]

Well I only retold what I was told by an astral Master, it was quite complex and hard to explain but I tried my best =)

But yeah, that's how I got it, there are alternate versions of ourselves in alternate (parallel) worlds/dimensions (whatever you want to call it). And each of them contain a soul-fragment, or astral body and various other energy bodies, which is connected to the "true" soul (or "higher soul"). I would say it goes a bit further up than our "higher self", as our "higher self" is basically being aware of the highest aspect of our current incarnation here and being our best in this single plane and do not neccessarly include the knowledge of these "other selves". And yes they are unique, and they consist of all time-frames, meaning past, present and future, in other words all earlier incarnations and future reincarnations is out there already enfolding their experiences and existence on their own, without general knowledge of the other selves and this fact (?) which all gradually develop towards the Oneness with the Higher Soul, or True Self - and once that is reached, all of these alternate versions of oneself will merge with ones Higher Soul and become th Oneness and progress towards further development, understanding and insights, as well as experiences on a higher level of existence. I guess you can say the "Higher Soul" is the "host", and all the alternate versions of ourselves down "here" (on the lower planes) are the "clients". Sort of like a tree, it has branches with many leaves, and at certain points such as winter the tree (host) will suck in all its resin so the leaves withers and falls of and dies, yet the tree itself stays alive. So, in that sense, you can compare your body here with that of a leaf of a tree, a leaf that is not aware of the tree it is connected to, and at a certain point the life force will be sucked out of the leaf (you) and back to the tree (higher soul) and become one again. But it do not sprout new leaves (bodies) but instead evolves to another state of being (The Higher Soul as Oneness).

Sorry if my explanation sucks but it was quite complex and hard to put into words so I try use some metaphors to perhaps make it more understandable (?)

Best wishes,

Edward Alexander

So, you're saying there are other parts of ourselves in other dimensions? Each of these selves contain a partial soul.. when added up it's one higher self- this '"oneness??'"

They are all unique in different dimensions - co- exist at same time?

Are these other partial souls conscious of itself? Which is host? I'm not sure if I understand..

[Radian]

Thanks Puradalin,

I understand that concept. Ok. I think.

What I'm really wanting to know, when you are able to move within these different bodies (during AP I guess), are they of different dimensions than our own?

Are each of these other body's conscious? Like we are now..

[puridalan]

Thanks Puradalin,

I understand that concept. Ok. I think.

What I'm really wanting to know, when you are able to move within these different bodies (during AP I guess), are they of different dimensions than our own?

Are each of these other body's conscious? Like we are now..

That's just the thing, I am not in astral and not really so much dreaming...though it's in my opinion more similiar to remote view/pre-cog. Nope, for me it's the same place...earth, just learn to shift your energy around. All of it is literal no weird ghosts or entities, you see people like you would walking down a street picking up food for dinner. Would be like remote view, except you are outside, but I think a lot of remote viewers view inside the body, you aren't flying or anything like that

I am concious in their body, but they are not aware of me being there, or at least most of the time...no

I only had one expierence where someone was looking through my eyes once...very weird I will admit. Didn't know it till after I had did it, than understood.

[Enigmatic Ghost]

That's just the thing, I am not in astral and not really so much dreaming...though it's in my opinion more similiar to remote view/pre-cog. Nope, for me it's the same place...earth, just learn to shift your energy around. All of it is literal no weird ghosts or entities, you see people like you would walking down a street picking up food for dinner. Would be like remote view, except you are outside, but I think a lot of remote viewers view inside the body, you aren't flying or anything like that

I am concious in their body, but they are not aware of me being there, or at least most of the time...no

I only had one expierence where someone was looking through my eyes once...very weird I will admit. Didn't know it till after I had did it, than understood.

Can I ask of you if I may and you need not answer these questions but in your own events and in being within other Bodies what was your perception of the bodies you were in, what was like in all or partial description of, also if you observed Nature, was all the elemental aspects of nature normal, say as example Shadows fell normal, solar light and what was the perception of Foliage and the environment around, I am not wishing for a general answer here, but anything that stood out from the normal laws of nature and Physics…

It is that I am looking for similarities of my own past events, none of which I am willing to post upon UM in public at this present time as I don’t wish to add to in suggestions the aspects of my own journeys paranormal…

Thank you. Pavot

[darkbreed]

Shankpin: Well you were not addressing me but I will answer you anyway in regards of my own experiences. In my experiences, I was in full control of the people whom's bodies I entered. It was as real and physical as sitting here now writing this to you. Though I think I have more or less explained this in previous posts in this thread already.

Pavot: Again I can only speak in regards of my own experiences and not puridalen whom you ask. But if you are interested, in my experiences, everything was as real and physical as this physical reality is. All senses were normal. Smell, hearing, seeing, touch, etc. Everything seemed normal regarding the sun and light and shadows etc (though, I have to admit, I did not exactly really study the shadows or sun in particular..)

However, in OTHER astral experiences things are completely different... When I am in my normal "own" astral body, I can fly, go through walls, and in some planes I have magical abilities like being able to fight enemies with my mind and energies, while in other dimensions it is more physical again and I have to walk around to explore, and I can communicate with the residents there, and things are different. I have gone to other planets, seen aliens, worlds completely different than this one. But the alien planets I visited seemed to be physical ones, and I was not visible to the others, I was just an observer, as I am here in the physical world if I project and fly around.

Though, I have met other astral entities in this physical planes when astral projecting at several occations, but usually I spend most of my time in other realms than this one.

-EA

[puridalan]

Can I ask of you if I may and you need not answer these questions but in your own events and in being within other Bodies what was your perception of the bodies you were in, what was like in all or partial description of, also if you observed Nature, was all the elemental aspects of nature normal, say as example Shadows fell normal, solar light and what was the perception of Foliage and the environment around, I am not wishing for a general answer here, but anything that stood out from the normal laws of nature and Physics…

It is that I am looking for similarities of my own past events, none of which I am willing to post upon UM in public at this present time as I don’t wish to add to in suggestions the aspects of my own journeys paranormal…

Thank you. Pavot

No all of it is normal. In fact I have even recorded which side the sun was on and so forth. Felt the temp. there, even sweat from the person. I usually only deal in serial killer, victims cases..have dealt with other, but those are my norm...not so umm 'nice' cases. I'll give you a few I've had. You can always feel free to PM me if you want. The perception I get from them, is what they are literally doing in that moment, and if I see what they are wearing...just like you would do when glancing down at your own home. All senses are intact, including sound. I've even heard music played out of a car.