longlongago Posted September 23, 2008 #1 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) the following line was used as an epigraph for a book on the paranormal - '' we always find something to give us the impression that we exist '' the quote is from the play ' waiting for godot ' by samuel beckett look forward to comments - Edited September 23, 2008 by harmonious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakonwick Posted September 23, 2008 #2 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Another matrix thread... A few things. 1.) What is your definition of existance? 2.) How could anyone determine whether we actually exist or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Stardust Posted September 23, 2008 #3 Share Posted September 23, 2008 In my opinion, there are important philosophical questions, interesting philosophical questions, and desultory philosophical questions. This constitutes the third category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlongago Posted September 23, 2008 Author #4 Share Posted September 23, 2008 what if the attempt to philosophise itself is DESULTORY .. an unnecessary stain upon silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Stardust Posted September 23, 2008 #5 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Erm.. ok? To answer the question, I think it's fairly obvious we do not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakonwick Posted September 23, 2008 #6 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Look at it this way! We exist no matter what, whether it be in what most of us consider reality or whether we were brought into existance by some other super beings thoughts and we are merely a computer program. (We still exist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValkyrieVoice Posted September 23, 2008 #7 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I truly believe that I exist ONLY on Tuesday nights at 7:00 P.M., C.D.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakonwick Posted September 23, 2008 #8 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I truly believe that I exist ONLY on Tuesday nights at 7:00 P.M., C.D.T. Yes YES!!! Existance should be able to be controlled and used as a convenience. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion von Koch Posted September 23, 2008 #9 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I love that old Vedic saying — not that one is, but that whereby Is, is. I do not care if I exist, but I sure am amazed by the fact that I am here and I am self-aware that I am here. To tell you the truth, I am in awe of just being here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbreed Posted September 24, 2008 #10 Share Posted September 24, 2008 As someone said "I think, therefore I am". But what existence is can be another quite complicated thing to figure out. Oh, and I can't help myself.. "Waiting for Godot": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXa-HkFsROs -EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion von Koch Posted September 24, 2008 #11 Share Posted September 24, 2008 As someone said "I think, therefore I am". But what existence is can be another quite complicated thing to figure out. Oh, and I can't help myself.. "Waiting for Godot": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXa-HkFsROs -EA So am I, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJB Posted September 24, 2008 #12 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I just hope we continue to exist after we die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted September 24, 2008 #13 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I'm pink therefore i'm spam. Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODIN-X Posted September 24, 2008 #14 Share Posted September 24, 2008 It's all a dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedingelite Posted September 25, 2008 #15 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I exist. You don't. /discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isis2200 Posted September 25, 2008 #16 Share Posted September 25, 2008 The only thing I need in order to know I exist is the feeling of love I have in my heart. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted September 26, 2008 #17 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Another matrix thread... A few things. 1.) What is your definition of existance? 2.) How could anyone determine whether we actually exist or not? This is how I see it. The matrix isn't asking the question do we exist. It's a statement about the architecture of existence. The question of do you believe in fate for example is subjective. If you take the position that you don't, but if you accept the position of destiny then you are acknowledging fate. Light and dark. 1. Do you live. 2. If you question your existence then you must be alive. The illusion isn't do we exist, the illusion is dying. You can't turn off your existence by dying therefore you exist. If we are not existential beings then how come men spend so much time trying to woo women ? Why do you have a belly button ? Luci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSOURCE Posted September 26, 2008 #18 Share Posted September 26, 2008 The only thing that exists is what I create. All else is but a bad dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Set the Fallen Posted September 27, 2008 #19 Share Posted September 27, 2008 the following line was used as an epigraph for a book on the paranormal - '' we always find something to give us the impression that we exist '' the quote is from the play ' waiting for godot ' by samuel beckett look forward to comments - There is no need to exist but we do excist. To say it like this. "We exist as long as we live, but after that we are just a myth, a legend, a tale of old. In other words we exist as long as we live, after that we perish." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelOfMusic Posted September 27, 2008 #20 Share Posted September 27, 2008 The only thing that exists is what I create. All else is but a bad dream. Not to sound rude or an idiot, but what does that mean? By questioning whether we exist an interacting in this matrix, i am sure we do exist, I think the question that should be asked is, so we do exist, but is it a matrix we exist in, or somewhere else? Or maybe that was the question everyone is asking in the first place. Angel x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SV-001 Posted September 28, 2008 #21 Share Posted September 28, 2008 (edited) people need to get over the idea of not existing or whatever. Like many here say, what is real? How can you define real exactly. What if we are just a thought or a computer program? Just live the realm you live in and life goes on.There's a reason why we're here. you'll find out more when your time comes.If you are meant to escape this so called non-existing realm..then you will. but for the meantime,just dont think about it. I astral travel all the time and ive been to and seen many different dimensions and realms, different colors outside the spectrum and sounds you can never replicate on this one. and not to talk about the beings.. Edited September 28, 2008 by a MillionLights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakonwick Posted September 28, 2008 #22 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Simply put, if you do not exist! Do not resond to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlongago Posted October 2, 2008 Author #23 Share Posted October 2, 2008 perhaps SILENCE is the best response to this temptation of the conscious mind .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbreed Posted October 9, 2008 #24 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Considering you were able to post, and also make up the idea to post it, I'd say yes you exist. Existence is a state of something being - the opposite of nothingness. Complete nothingness do not exist, as that would contradict something existing which obviously it is as we're here discussing this. There's different levels of existence, such as existing without being aware of your own existence, or existing and being aware of it. And there's things existing that can not be aware or not aware but just "be" - such as a rock or your shoe. We are lucky enough to both observe existence and ourselves and be aware of ourselves and existence and the things in existence that surrounds us. If you can observe yourself, and even ask how anyone can determine that you exist, you're confirming your own existence by doing so. -EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanus. Posted October 15, 2008 #25 Share Posted October 15, 2008 You only exist when you have love, or have been loved, or loving someone, or at least know how it felt to love. Necessary! And secondly, materials only exist in this world as a dimensional matter. In lower realities things exist as frequencies. So we all do exist, but we show up in different ways in different places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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