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AROCES
2nd time now.

They weren't socialist, obviously you don't get it.

Same ideology, just different design.

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Splodgenessabounds
Same ideology, just different design.

WRONG, WRONG, SO WRONG :D .

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Space Commander Travis
Give it time, it does not deterioate in one day really.

Funny, you were saying a moment ago that the Great American Capitalist Dream was working fine until a few days ago. That seems to be deteriorating pretty quickly.

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AROCES
Funny, you were saying a moment ago that the Great American Capitalist Dream was working fine until a few days ago. That seems to be deteriorating pretty quickly.

How many times have the United States gone thru a recession in it's history? It's an economic cycle, you want to see and study a total collapse then read about the former USSR.

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AROCES
Socialism and communism are nothing like fascism, and if you think socialism and communism are the same...

Same ideology, just different design.

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Splodgenessabounds
Same ideology, just different design.

Oh I get it. It's the repeat yourself game, I'll play,

WRONG, WRONG, SO WRONG :D .

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Tiggs
Dying??? We just had a 49 straight months of economic growth that ended over a year ago, and the country is about to die now???

This is a perfect example of fear mongering, a pure political scare message. You exaggerate the situation and let it be known if the left does not gets its Socialist government the country will die, like the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republic.

LOL :D

Where were you when the International Monetary System almost collapsed, exactly?

You know - I wouldn't care as much if you were just destroying the American economy. If you want to put yourself and your offspring into a state of spiralling inescapable debt and financial slavery just so Paris Hilton can buy some more bling, then be my guest.

But you're not. You're destroying the entire World's economy. Entire nations are sliding into bankruptcy. If you could just hold off from pressing the self-destruct button again for the next few years while the rest of the World marginalises America's impact on the World economy by moving to the Euro as it's reserve currency, the rest of Civilisation would be very grateful.

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AROCES
Where were you when the International Monetary System almost collapsed, exactly?

You know - I wouldn't care as much if you were just destroying the American economy. If you want to put yourself and your offspring into a state of spiralling inescapable debt and financial slavery just so Paris Hilton can buy some more bling, then be my guest.

But you're not. You're destroying the entire World's economy. Entire nations are sliding into bankruptcy. If you could just hold off from pressing the self-destruct button again for the next few years while the rest of the World marginalises America's impact on the World economy by moving to the Euro as it's reserve currency, the rest of Civilisation would be very grateful.

AGAIN, any economy has it's ups and down. All you are doing is capitalizing on the current economic situation to promote your failed socialistic ideology.

The Euro being strong for now is just part of the free market system.

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Tiggs
AGAIN, any economy has it's ups and down. All you are doing is capitalizing on the current economic situation to promote your failed socialistic ideology.

The Euro being strong for now is just part of the free market system.

No. You're just in denial of the current economic situation because it exposes your failed and fatally flawed Republican ideology.

When was the last time that over half the nations Mortgage providers were nationalised, exactly? To the nearest century?

Unfortunately for you, it's collapsed so close to the election that you can't rely on short voters memories to get you out of trouble this time.

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danielost
So they have been doing it for centuries? And they have been around for three millennium as a country...and china pretty much owns the pink slip on the US at this point...

It isnt working obviously.

No it isn't working, china has gone to a controlled capitalism society.

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danielost
They weren't socialist, they were fascist. In a proper socialist society there isn't a dictator. There has never been a country in history to properly adopt either socialism or communism.

Get that? ;)

Actually the country that comes the closest is the united states.

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Space Commander Travis
forced socialism doesn't work. it isn't working in china where they have been living it for centuries.

1949 may be a long time ago, but I don't think it's quite centuries.

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Space Commander Travis
Tell you what: If you like a socialist economy why don't you move to Russia? It would be your paradise.

Um.. it hasn't been socialist since about 1991, actually. In fact, it's been quite a good example of how well an unrestrained capitalist economy works. The mafia particualrly approve of it.

The soviet union is still trying to figuare that one out.

Um (part 3): see my comment above. It doesn't exist any more. Unless you're talking metaphysically, of course.

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danielost
1949 may be a long time ago, but I don't think it's quite centuries.

Sorry I didn't mean the government I ment the people, families.

Um.. it hasn't been socialist since about 1991, actually. In fact, it's been quite a good example of how well an unrestrained capitalist economy works. The mafia particualrly approve of it.

Um (part 3): see my comment above. It doesn't exist any more. Unless you're talking metaphysically, of course.

I meant it died trying to figuare it out.

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MasterPo
But you're not. You're destroying the entire World's economy. Entire nations are sliding into bankruptcy. If you could just hold off from pressing the self-destruct button again for the next few years while the rest of the World marginalises America's impact on the World economy by moving to the Euro as it's reserve currency, the rest of Civilisation would be very grateful.

There it is. The great "evil" America at it again. Talk about self-centered points of view!

So when Europe goes into a recession and it hurts America that's OK. Or when south east asia goes down the tubes that's OK. But when America hits it's bottom cycle - how selfish of us!

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Tiggs
There it is. The great "evil" America at it again. Talk about self-centered points of view!

So when Europe goes into a recession and it hurts America that's OK. Or when south east asia goes down the tubes that's OK. But when America hits it's bottom cycle - how selfish of us!

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This is not an economic lull. It's not like production has slowed down, or people just aren't spending as much.

The International monetary system ceased to function, to the extent that Nations are bankrupts and the majority of the civilised world is having to guarantee the banks, in order to prevent the total collapse of the World's financial system.

Talk about a self-centred point of view!

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This is not an economic lull. It's not like production has slowed down, or people just aren't spending as much.

The International monetary system ceased to function, to the extent that Nations are bankrupts and the majority of the civilised world is having to guarantee the banks, in order to prevent the total collapse of the World's financial system.

Talk about a self-centred point of view!

The United States Does not control the world banks.

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Tiggs
The United States Does not control the world banks.

Correct. What's your point, exactly?

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AlexG
The United States Does not control the world banks.

No, but we do have to coordinate and work with them. The WWF (World Wide Financial) system is too interconnected.

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danielost
Correct. What's your point, exactly?

But you're not. You're destroying the entire World's economy. Entire nations are sliding into bankruptcy. If you could just hold off from pressing the self-destruct button again for the next few years while the rest of the World marginalises America's impact on the World economy by moving to the Euro as it's reserve currency, the rest of Civilisation would be very grateful.

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Tiggs

No, really. What's your point - exactly?

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danielost
No, really. What's your point - exactly?

We don't control the banks the banks are holding the world hostage. We have already paid or voted to pay them 700 billion to let the world go.

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Tiggs

* Sighs *

And who's job is it to legislate and regulate those banks, so this kind of thing doesn't happen?

Actually. Forget that. We're drifting badly off topic. I'll start another thread.

The OP of this thread was:

Obama interview

Obama unsure about tax increase if economy stays weak, he believes in trickle down now?

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ninjadude
What is this? Desent amoung the liberals??

Questionmark says gov spending is the only way to get us out of a recession and into prosperity.

Can't you guys agree on anything? ;)

Contrary to Neocons yes. YES indeed. Democracy is very messy. Different opinions and such. Maybe you should go hide in the basement.

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ninjadude
Can anyone explain to me how you get a prosperous growing economy without somebody becoming "rich"?

Maybe you should read about or visit some European countries.

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