MasterPo Posted October 22, 2008 #126 Share Posted October 22, 2008 History proves that Biden is right! Jimmy Carter was tested with the Iran hostage crisis - and failed. Reagan was tested by Libya - and passed. Bush-41 was tested by Saddam Hussein - and passed. Bill Clinton was tested by the first WTC bombing - and failed. Bill Clinton was tested by the Hobard towers bombing - and failed. Bill Clinton was tested by the African embassy bombings - and failed. Bill Clinton was tested by the USS Cole bombing - and grossly failed. Bush was tested by the Chinese early in his Presidencey - and passed. Bush was tested by 9/11 - and passed with flying colors! So yes, Biden was correct. B. Hussein Obama will definately tested very early. And as history clearly shows, first-time Democrat Presidents don't have a good track record of doing well with these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted October 22, 2008 #127 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Not the right one? Tell that to those found in mass graves and their families. Obama is good as dead, he is irrelevant now. 1. Again, why Iraq and not Sudan? 2. Irrelevant or not, he's the one who (supposedly) started this **** fest. After the attacks the west WANTED BLOOD. JUSTICE. REVENGE. I know if someone came to me and cut off my arm, I would follow them until I had their head at my feet... not get distracted and chase after a fire truck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted October 22, 2008 #128 Share Posted October 22, 2008 400,000? You mean the Iraqis? AGAIN, let them speak out that their lost was a waste and it was wrong for them to fight for a new and better Iraq. Let us hear them agree with you, so far you been speaking in their behalf. Are you deaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMessiah Posted October 22, 2008 #129 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Not the right one? Tell that to those found in mass graves and their families. Osama is good as dead, he is irrelevant now. I guess being alive and well is "as good as dead." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted October 22, 2008 #130 Share Posted October 22, 2008 1. Again, why Iraq and not Sudan? Let the French and Canadians handle Sudan, if it's us again then we will be accused of so many things. 2. Irrelevant or not, he's the one who (supposedly) started this **** fest. After the attacks the west WANTED BLOOD. JUSTICE. REVENGE. I know if someone came to me and cut off my arm, I would follow them until I had their head at my feet... not get distracted and chase after a fire truck.. If your home was burned for your neighborhood is being taken over by several gangs and you have the power to do something, do you just look for the culprit or do you act now and clean up the neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted October 22, 2008 #131 Share Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) Let the French and Canadians handle Sudan, if it's us again then we will be accused of so many things. If your home was burned for your neighborhood is being taken over by several gangs and you have the power to do something, do you just look for the culprit or do you act now and clean up the neighborhood. What are you serious? You're being accussed of things now. Iraq wasn't in your neighborhood. Edited October 22, 2008 by InHuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted October 22, 2008 #132 Share Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) I guess being alive and well is "as good as dead."He maybe alive, but irrelevant for we had him hiding and on the run! He peeps is head out and Tomahawk missile will greet him. Edited October 22, 2008 by AROCES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted October 22, 2008 #133 Share Posted October 22, 2008 What are you serious? You're being accussed of things now. Yup, by anti war, socialist, communist, liberals, terrorist and anti Bush of the world. Iraq wasn't in your neighborhood. And we ain't going to wait for it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted October 22, 2008 #134 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Yup, by anti war, socialist, communist, liberals, terrorist and anti Bush of the world. And we ain't going to wait for it to be. those things have nothing to do with it It's still no excuse for turning a blind eye on a deserving case and rushing into a full on invasion. Sudan needs peacekeepers, a U.N initative with America's help could have ended it all years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted October 22, 2008 #135 Share Posted October 22, 2008 those things have nothing to do with it It's still no excuse for turning a blind eye on a deserving case and rushing into a full on invasion. Sudan needs peacekeepers, a U.N initative with America's help could have ended it all years ago. Why America again????? Let the Europeans handle it, or Hugo Chavez and his buddies in South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterPo Posted October 22, 2008 #136 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Why America again????? Let the Europeans handle it, or Hugo Chavez and his buddies in South America. Oh come on! If America isn't involved who will the world blame for all the problems and failures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted October 22, 2008 #137 Share Posted October 22, 2008 (edited) Oh come on! If America isn't involved who will the world blame for all the problems and failures? I for one am sick and tired of the blame America crowd, on the next world crisis or situation the United States should stay foot and call on the Europeans, South American, Canada and China to lead for a change. Edited October 22, 2008 by AROCES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMessiah Posted October 22, 2008 #138 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Yup, by anti war, socialist, communist, liberals, terrorist and anti Bush of the world. That list is so unrelated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterPo Posted October 22, 2008 #139 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I for one am sick and tired of the blame America crowd, on the next world crisis or situation the United States should stay foot and call on the Europeans, South American, Canada and China to lead for a change. Problem is when they do go in and fail the world will still blame America saying we should have been there instead! Face it: The world loves to beat us up, except when Uncle Sam is handing out money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted October 22, 2008 #140 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Playing the victim? What?Where?Who said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMessiah Posted October 22, 2008 #141 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Playing the victim? Who said that? The baby eating European atheists of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted October 22, 2008 #142 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Which is basically correct, I know you said you don't like to read, but you should read this to learn how complicated the whole thing really was... which begs the question: Where were our law enforcement agencies? On Nov. 26, 1999, just as the Hamburg group was en route to Afghanistan to be initiated as future pilots in the attack on the United States, Slahi left Germany. He traveled to Canada, officially to attend courses in Montreal. He told his wife that he was going to search for a job and an apartment for the two of them. But Slahi had a different explanation for the trip when he was later questioned. He said that he had felt observed in Germany and Mauritania, and that this had made him want to move to a free country. maybe you should have read it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzTide Posted October 22, 2008 #143 Share Posted October 22, 2008 those things have nothing to do with it It's still no excuse for turning a blind eye on a deserving case and rushing into a full on invasion. Sudan needs peacekeepers, a U.N initative with America's help could have ended it all years ago. We tried that in Somalia and ALL the bleeding hearts screamed and our soldiers had to play fair by rules of engagement while the locals have no rules. And the troops paid a huge price. Almost sounds like Iraq and Vietnam.. Wait I’m getting off track Sudan yes that's the subject. Ok so we go after Sudan and so u understand the only true way to fix that place is to start from scratch and take it and everyone that lives there and bulldoze over it. At least Iraq had some kind of infrastructure Sudan and some viable way to support its country in the near future. Sudan has nothing and has nothing in the near future to support itself. And make no doubt about it peace keepers watching that country is like spitting into the ocean it's futile. But hey why not spend the money and lives there as well…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzTide Posted October 22, 2008 #144 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Oh come on! If America isn't involved who will the world blame for all the problems and failures? Come on Po you know Chavez can only terrorize his on people and US tourist and business men..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzTide Posted October 22, 2008 #145 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I for one am sick and tired of the blame America crowd, on the next world crisis or situation the United States should stay foot and call on the Europeans, South American, Canada and China to lead for a change. So basically you’re saying that you'll be waiting for the world to do nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted October 22, 2008 #146 Share Posted October 22, 2008 We tried that in Somalia and ALL the bleeding hearts screamed and our soldiers had to play fair by rules of engagement while the locals have no rules. And the troops paid a huge price. Almost sounds like Iraq and Vietnam.. Wait I’m getting off track Sudan yes that's the subject. Ok so we go after Sudan and so u understand the only true way to fix that place is to start from scratch and take it and everyone that lives there and bulldoze over it. At least Iraq had some kind of infrastructure Sudan and some viable way to support its country in the near future. Sudan has nothing and has nothing in the near future to support itself. And make no doubt about it peace keepers watching that country is like spitting into the ocean it's futile. But hey why not spend the money and lives there as well…. All we did in somalia was send in unarmed men and then run away when they got shot at thanks to clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted October 22, 2008 #147 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Problem is when they do go in and fail the world will still blame America saying we should have been there instead! Face it: The world loves to beat us up, except when Uncle Sam is handing out money. No the world loves to beat up america and demand that we hand out more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted October 22, 2008 #148 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Just for the record. I didn't say INVADE. Just protect the people right? Few resources would need to be spent on the side of the international community compared to the lives lost if we just looked from the sidelines.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted October 22, 2008 #149 Share Posted October 22, 2008 So basically you’re saying that you'll be waiting for the world to do nothing? Yeah, and the occupier, imperialist, world police will be forced to be the one to do something again. But of course has to be the socialist/liberal of the worlds kind of help if not America is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted October 22, 2008 #150 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Didn't we hire a world police to do that job. where are they why aren't they doing their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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