prop 8

[BlindMessiah]

SoulMatrix Are you going to say any of that in the thread or just leave it to PMs? Well how about this, because I'm not ashamed of what I am, and I don't need a bible to tell me how to live.

He's doing that with you too? Same here. Every time I reply to him he sends me a PM. It's getting annoying.

I am WICCAN... I flaming bi sexual dancing naked flowers in her hair witch..

When do we meet?

[SoulMatrix]

SoulMatrix Are you going to say any of that in the thread or just leave it to PMs? Well how about this, because I'm not ashamed of what I am, and I don't need a bible to tell me how to live.

I am WICCAN... I flaming bi sexual dancing naked flowers in her hair witch.. or whatever other stereotype you want to lay on me. I've never lived a day of my life by the bible, but have suffered MANY times because of it. I grew up with both pot and booze.. and when you're a kid and HOPING your folks are going to get high and not drunk so you don't get beat, it changes the way you look at pot. I've never TRIED it, but have experienced, first hand, what it can do. Have you?

As for being bad for your health.. Almost every culture on earth has smoked some form of of the stuff... and so far the only ill effect is when politics get involved.. you know how pot causes gun crimes? When it is illegal, people are willing to kill each other to get it.. willing to kill each other for the money it bring.. Its the legal aspect that kills people, not the drug itself.

Now, back to the issue at hand.. I don't give a flaming flop about the bible.. give me a REAL reason not to legalize gay marriage.. Tell me how its going to harm someone.. not even the bible can tell you that, cause its not there to tell.

ok well good for you. I didn't grow up with any of that BS. POT or Beer. Not going to get into that though. But when today's society brainwashes the youth or whatever other group through music, hollywood, billboards, celebraties glamourizing sex, drugs, crimes and whatnot. A person like me views the world differently. Sure I can accept it. But doesn't mean I have to follow all the Trends and habits that are so called "cool". You were taught in school drugs are bad for you and that marriage is between man and woman. I guess "To try something new and experiance is to Live life" is true. I will not though change the way I look on certain things and nothing will get me to change my look on life. I think you already got the hint about the reason why I'm not for Gay Marriage.

hopefully.

[KyrusRose]

He's doing that with you too? Same here. Every time I reply to him he sends me a PM. It's getting annoying.

When do we meet?

Take it up with my husband, lol

<--Married and NOT christian!!!! ('O')

Edited November 3, 2008 by KyrusRose

[Splodgenessabounds]

SoulMatrix Are you going to say any of that in the thread or just leave it to PMs?

Oh I'm really keen to know what he said to you now. I'm guessing it wasn't very civilized.

[BlindMessiah]

ok well good for you. I didn't grow up with any of that BS. POT or Beer. Not going to get into that though. But when today's society brainwashes the youth or whatever other group through music, hollywood, billboards, celebraties glamourizing sex, drugs, crimes and whatnot. A person like me views the world differently. Sure I can accept it. But doesn't mean I have to follow all the Trends and habits that are so called "cool". You were taught in school drugs are bad for you and that marriage is between man and woman. I guess "To try something new and experiance is to Live life" is true. I will not though change the way I look on certain things and nothing will get me to change my look on life. I think you already got the hint about the reason why I'm not for Gay Marriage.

hopefully.

I've never smoked, drank, done any form of drugs, broken any laws or had sex. I only intend on doing one of those things. I support the legalization of drugs, the drinking age lowered, smoking kept legalized, and I support gay marriage. Why? I believe in freedom. So you see, you don't have to fall into your little stereotype of free thinking liberal experimental hippies. I'm not liberal, I'm not all that experimental, I'm a square, and certainly not a hippie. So how exactly do you plan on explaining away the completely logical argument that I present. This nation is about liberty. Drinking, smoking, drugs, sexuality and the like, are all personal choices for the individual. You, me, Bush and Pelosi, have no right, to tell anyone else what their personal choices can be. Unless gay marriage is legalized in every city in this great nation, we will be a living paradox, violating the very laws that govern us. Until people begin to honor our constitution, and actually follow it, we're headed toward a dark and depraved society where no man can speak their mind, no one's rights are safe, and pointless laws abound for the sake of pleasing the majority, knowing that they infringed on the liberties of the minority.

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For those out there, who would rather live in a democracy, than follow the law of the land, vote yes, but for those who support freedom and our constitution, vote no. We are not a democracy, we are a land that holds law and liberty as the highest standard, not the whims of man.

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." Thomas Jefferson

[BlindMessiah]

Oh I'm really keen to know what he said to you now. I'm guessing it wasn't very civilized.

I'm not allowed to post what he said but, the gist was, "do you seriously believe what you're saying."

[KyrusRose]

ok well good for you. I didn't grow up with any of that BS. POT or Beer. Not going to get into that though. But when today's society brainwashes the youth or whatever other group through music, hollywood, billboards, celebraties glamourizing sex, drugs, crimes and whatnot. A person like me views the world differently. Sure I can accept it. But doesn't mean I have to follow all the Trends and habits that are so called "cool". You were taught in school drugs are bad for you and that marriage is between man and woman. I guess "To try something new and experiance is to Live life" is true. I will not though change the way I look on certain things and nothing will get me to change my look on life. I think you already got the hint about the reason why I'm not for Gay Marriage.

hopefully.

I'm not going to mess with Hollywood or the media.. Music... well I just laugh at that, and my stance on drugs is based on experience, 20 years of it, with pot, heavy drug users and alcoholics and the knowledge that anyone else who has the same experience would agree that pot is the lesser of the evils, and just like it is human nature to fear and hate, addiction is human nature as well. As for something new.. homosexuality isn't "new". Heck even animals can be gay.. Its been around as long as humans have been around (not going into this either) and the only reason it seems new is homosexuals have been afraid to make themselves know.. because of people like you.

So... you are not for gay marriage because your religion and your upbringing say its wrong.. and its still not a logical or legal reason to deny another living being the rights of every straight person in this nation, be them religious or not. Do you define yourself as better then them? More holy, closer to god? And how would another couple effect your life at all? How does a legal change effect your religious stance? A marriage is a LEGAL contract, not a religious one. A wedding is religious, and if you want to protest gay weddings, go for it, but you can not have your faith dictate what is legal for a nation that does not fall under one faith.

If my faith where prominent on the US, nudity would not be taboo, women could walk around shirtless the same as men. But as much as I would LOVE this to be the case, I know its only my faith, and not everyone else's.. I don't PUSH it on other people as the "one and only" view of the world. And I can't stand people who do just that. Open your mind.. there are six and a half BILLION people in the world.. and a different view on religion for every single one of them... if religion chose our laws.. we would be screwed up being even God's ability to repair.

[SoulMatrix]

One final Blow to both of guy's arguments.

About Homosexuality in Ancient Times.

Parallels between the fall of Rome and modern America

* Column: Charles Biggs

March 27th, 2008

Sally Kern was right - great civilizations that fully embrace homosexuality don’t last much longer.

Rep. Kern, a state lawmaker from Oklahoma City, has been the center of a firestorm after she made some absolutely truthful statements about the danger of homosexuality.

Of course, radical homosexuals like Ellen Degeneres (degenerate?) and liberal newspapers like the Tulsa World have twisted her words to attack her credibility.

It doesn’t matter because truth is truth whether they choose to believe it or not.

Did homosexuality cause Rome to fall? No, it can’t be listed as the only factor in the demise of the Roman Empire. But Sally Kern never made that statement.

Here’s my take – rampant homosexuality was a symptom of the moral decay of the Roman Empire that led to its eventual collapse.

I’m not the only one who takes that theory. Edward Gibbon, in his 18th century book Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, the first systematic history of the later Empire, points to homosexuality as a cause of the fall of Rome.

A lot of comparisons have been drawn between ancient Rome and modern America.

Dr. Carle Zimmerman in 1947 wrote a book called Family and Civilization. He studies the decline of several civilizations and empires. He discovered eight patterns of domestic behavior that signaled the decline of a civilization:

1. The breakdown of marriage and rise of divorce.

2. The loss of the traditional meaning of the marriage ceremony.

3. The rise of Feminism.

4. Increased public disrespect for parents and authority in general.

5. Acceleration of juvenile delinquency, promiscuity and rebellion.

6. Refusal of people with traditional marriages to accept their family responsibilities.

7. A growing desire for and acceptance of adultery.

8. Increasing interest in and spread of sexual perversions (homosexuality) and sex-related crimes.

See any parallels in modern America? Maybe we should be listening to Rep. Kern a little more carefully.

Every historian – even modern homosexual revisionists – admit that Rome was riddled with homosexuals. Hadrian, one of the best emperors, traveled the empire with a youthful lover, Antinous. Caligula and Nero were accused of having sex with just about anyone or anything.

Here’s another historical fact. Rampant homosexuality among the upper classes in Rome led to a decline in the birth rate among aristocrats and reduced the pool of leadership manpower.

In the fifth century AD, Rome was a mess. Germanic Goths overran the Northeastern Roman border in 406.

Other non-Christian tribes - Vandals, Franks, Burgundians, Lombards, Visigoths, and Ostro-goths –posed serious threats to external Roman security. Rome’s internal problems made a unified response impossible.

In 410 AD, Alaric led the Visigoths into Rome and the city was taken for the first time in 1,000 years.

The Western Roman Empire fell again to the Vandals in AD 455, and again in AD 476, when Germanic tribes over-ran it.

Rome was riddled with pederasty (literally “boy-love”), which refers to an intimate relationship between a boy and an adult male outside his family.

Every major religion in the world – including Islam – condemns homosexual behavior. In “peaceful” Muslim countries, practicing homosexuals are often killed.

Homosexuality is condemned in the Old Testament in Leviticus 20:13 and in the New Testament in Romans 1. In Matthew, male and female relationships are the only sexual relationships allowed by Jesus (Matthew 19:4-6).

But homosexuality is not the core issue. The real issue is when a nation turns its back on God.

If you study scripture, you understand that the sin of homosexuality is as bad as promiscuity, fornication, prostitution, bestiality and any sexual activity apart from holy matrimony between one man and one woman.

This is hedonism, which places personal pleasure above any concept of right or wrong. So, modern homosexuals are rejecting God’s plan for righteous fulfillment of a God-given sex drive and replacing it for a “if it feels good, do it,” philosophy.

And homosexuality, like prostitution, bestiality, etc., is a destructive lifestyle. It always damages those who get caught up in it.

Homosexual men rarely have monogamous relationships. That greatly increases the risk of disease from their unnatural acts.

A homosexual publication printed the following statistics:

• 24 percent of homosexual men had more than 100 partners.

• 43 percent of homosexual men had more than 500 partners.

• 28 percent of homosexual men had more than 1,000 partners.

A study by the Journal of Sex Research showed that only 2.7 percent of the 2,583 older homosexuals surveyed claimed to have sex with only one partner.

The risk of anal cancer for homosexual men rises by an amazing 4,000 percent and doubles again for those who are HIV positive. According to the Centers for Disease Control, homosexual men are a thousand times more likely to contract AIDS than the general male heterosexual population.

If your risk of being killed by a terrorist rose by 4,000 percent, you would probably take steps to stop it.

So, when you place homosexuality in the context of a move away from God’s morality to selfishness and licentiousness, it suddenly does become more dangerous than a terrorist with a bomb in a subway.

Sally was right. The homosexuals, including those who sent her death threats, are dead wrong.

If America continues down a path of rejection of God’s standards, we will suffer the same fate as Rome.

• A guy’s on the electric chair. The warden’s just about to pull the switch when the guy gets the hiccups. The warden says, “Do you have any last requests?” The guy says, “(hic) Yeah… (hic) could you please do (hic) could you please do something to scare me?”

• A guy walks into work, and both of his ears are all bandaged up. The boss says, “What happened to your ears?” He says, “Yesterday I was ironing a shirt when the phone rang and (hold iron to ear) shhh! I accidentally answered the iron.” The boss says, “Well, that explains one ear, but what happened to your other ear?” He says, “Well, I had to call the doctor!”

• A guy is going on an ocean cruise, and he tells his doctor that he’s worried about getting seasick. The doctor says, “Just eat two pounds of stewed tomatoes before you leave the dock.” The guy says, “Will that keep me from getting sick, Doc?” The doctor says, “No, but it’ll look real pretty in the water.”

• A guy calls the hospital. He says, “You gotta send help! My wife’s going into labor!” The nurse says, “Calm down. Is this her first child?” He says, “No! This is her husband!”

AND YES I DO BELIEVE GOD WILL SOON RAIN JUDGEMENT ON THIS NATION. Continue on with all this prostitution, homosexuality, adultery, high divorce rate and whatnot.

All you Homo Lovers and "RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE" BS. Alright then. WE shall be judged!

[BlindMessiah]

That has got to be the most ignorant, hateful and stupid rant I've ever seen.

All you Homo Lovers and "RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE" BS.

What the hell is your problem? You don't support constitutional civil rights? Good lord.

I'm sorry but I can't give an actual reply to your steaming pile of rubbish you call a post without getting myself banned.

Edited November 3, 2008 by BlindMessiah

[Splodgenessabounds]

1. The breakdown of marriage and rise of divorce.

2. The loss of the traditional meaning of the marriage ceremony.

3. The rise of Feminism.

4. Increased public disrespect for parents and authority in general.

5. Acceleration of juvenile delinquency, promiscuity and rebellion.

6. Refusal of people with traditional marriages to accept their family responsibilities.

7. A growing desire for and acceptance of adultery.

8. Increasing interest in and spread of sexual perversions (homosexuality) and sex-related crimes.

So along with homosexuality the rise in feminism is a sign of a civilization going down the toilet?

That book was written in 1947 for god's sake, of course it's going to be against homosexuality and the rise in feminism. If you were to show the author modern women he (with a lot of people from the 40's) consider them hussies. You have to put the book in context with the times.

A homosexual publication printed the following statistics:

• 24 percent of homosexual men had more than 100 partners.

• 43 percent of homosexual men had more than 500 partners.

• 28 percent of homosexual men had more than 1,000 partners.

My BS alarm is ringing non-stop at the moment.

And homosexuality, like prostitution, bestiality, etc., is a destructive lifestyle. It always damages those who get caught up in it.

My uncle and aunty are both gay, and it hasn't damaged them in anyway. I can't believe how some people can be so backwards nowadays, I don't care if that insults you (for what you posted you deserve to have a lot more done to you than just be insulted), it's the truth.

Disgusting, really ****ing disgusting.

Edited November 3, 2008 by Splodgenessabounds

[BlindMessiah]

Disgusting, really ****ing disgusting.

Yes, and if anyone's post was insulting, it was his hateful diatribe and lies.

[SoulMatrix]

All I'm saying is.... Just read ur history.

Greek and Roman Times.

Simple.

We might as well have Marshall Law in Full Effect here in the US if were going to have Gay Marriages accepted.

See this great country go down in shambles.

The Negatives keep accumulating about the US.

Economic Collapse is inevitable.

The Poor are getting Poorer.

Homosexuality

Gay Marriages

Divorce Rates are High.

Clean Water Shortages.

Adultery.

Prostitution

Pornography.

Lust

Greed

Need I say more?

[SilverCougar]

*facepalms*

I never could understand this kind of hate.

[Fluffybunny]

Not that I am all that surprised, but this thread has gone completely off the rails into hate filled rants...

I think it is a good rule of thumb that if you start yelling at people that the end is nigh and that eternal judgment is near, then it might be a good time to step away from the keyboard or go to another thread and cool down for a bit...its getting a bit much in here right now.

...I think there was a good funny picture thread that might be a good idea...

[RamboIII]

ok maybe u missed the part where I Said: Four Activist Judges overturned the 61% votes californians made in 2000. It stated that Marriage is between Man and Woman. I don't know what society your living in but I sure the heck don't want Gays to change the definition of Marriage in which GOD created for Man and Woman to join in Holy Matrimony. I don't even think it should be up to us, the PEOPLE, to make this decision on whether we should put it in the constitution. Don't know how you Brits deal with the Gay Community over there. But America doesn't plan on becoming a Gay Nation anytime soon.

Wow you are the most ignorant person in the entire world. You are IRRATIONAL enough to believe in god, yet you are claiming some rationality in arguing over gay rights. Let them get married. Who cares? If you care about them getting married then you need to pick up a new hobby. You are a victim of fallacious reasoning, and if you are unable to see that please tell me so I can point it out in simple logic form.

[Splodgenessabounds]

...I think there was a good funny picture thread that might be a good idea...

I'm having a cigarette first (and at the moment it feels so good), then I'll look at funny pictures.

[BlindMessiah]

All I'm saying is.... Just read ur history.

Greek and Roman Times.

Great empires that fell for military reasons?

Simple.

We might as well have Marshall Law in Full Effect here in the US if were going to have Gay Marriages accepted.

See this great country go down in shambles.

Please tell me this is a joke? You honestly believe that we need martial law if gay marriage is legalized? Gay marriage is legal in some states. You may find this hard to believe but... they didn't have martial law.

The Negatives keep accumulating about the US.

Do to the perpetuation of backward positions such as yours.

Economic Collapse is inevitable.

The Poor are getting Poorer.

Failed economic policy.

Homosexuality

Gay Marriages

Prostitution

Pornography.

Lust

Greed

Are you going to list any negatives?

Adultery.

Divorce Rates are High.

Clean Water Shortages.

Need I say more?

Adultery huh? Considering 99%+ marriages are straight, I don't think that has to do with gays. Same with divorce of course. Clean water shortages has nothing to do with any of this. The entire world is facing a water shortage and it has nothing to do with sex. And yes you need say more. Say something worthwhile that contributes to your argument.

[BlindMessiah]

I'm having a cigarette first (and at the moment it feels so good), then I'll look at funny pictures.

You're destroying the UK. Water shortages shall soon follow.

[Splodgenessabounds]

Wow you are the most ignorant person in the entire world. You are IRRATIONAL enough to believe in god, yet you are claiming some rationality in arguing over gay rights. Let them get married. Who cares? If you care about them getting married then you need to pick up a new hobby. You are a victim of fallacious reasoning, and if you are unable to see that please tell me so I can point it out in simple logic form.

LOGIC?!! You think people like this respond to logic?

*facepalms*

I've facepalmed so much my face collapsed in on itself and my hand's flown out the window.

Edited November 3, 2008 by Splodgenessabounds

[BlindMessiah]

*facepalms*

I never could understand this kind of hate.

I'm too angry to face palm. Men and women died for his freedom and he is wasting it by attempting to spread his evil, hateful views and purport his vile agenda.

[Fluffybunny]

OK folks...everybody step away from the keyboard...and nobody gets hurt...

Good.

For folks in the UK'ish part of the world...have a little tea...a smoke...deep breath...c...go to your happy place...ok...

For the folks here in the US...have a little coffee...a smoke...deep breath...a few happy thoughts...go to your happy place...ok...

Everything is going to be ok...

Remember...deep breath...happy place...

[KyrusRose]

... You know I don't WANT to touch it.. the whole thing is so.. wrong it makes me sick. But.. I can't help it. I'm going to run to the store, pick up a stack of porno mags, a 24 pack of bud light (and I don't even drink) find me a male prostitute and when i get back, I'm ripping you a new one, and you can take your religious rant to the religion section of the forums, kay?

[grither]

Why the hell should anyone care if someone gay gets married? It doesn't harm you. If your not gay then it won't effect you cause you won't be getting married. The mere fact that people like Soul matrix will vote against someone's happiness is disgusting. If you actually thing gays are gonna harm you getting married and want to deprive them of their freedoms then your an idiot.

[KyrusRose]

One final Blow to both of guy's arguments.

About Homosexuality in Ancient Times.

Parallels between the fall of Rome and modern America

* Column: Charles Biggs

March 27th, 2008

Sally Kern was right - great civilizations that fully embrace homosexuality don’t last much longer.

Rep. Kern, a state lawmaker from Oklahoma City, has been the center of a firestorm after she made some absolutely truthful statements about the danger of homosexuality.

Of course, radical homosexuals like Ellen Degeneres (degenerate?) and liberal newspapers like the Tulsa World have twisted her words to attack her credibility.

It doesn’t matter because truth is truth whether they choose to believe it or not.

Alright.. Truth is based on FACTS my friend.. Not someone's twisted religious opinion. I suggest figuring this out as soon as you have the chance, crap like this doesn't fly in the real world.

Did homosexuality cause Rome to fall? No, it can’t be listed as the only factor in the demise of the Roman Empire. But Sally Kern never made that statement.

Here’s my take – rampant homosexuality was a symptom of the moral decay of the Roman Empire that led to its eventual collapse.

Is it strange that Rome didn't fall until AFTER it was introduced to a christian faith? Maybe the fall of Rome was cause by Christianity. Or it played a factor? Do you see my point or am I just speaking to a wall?

I’m not the only one who takes that theory. Edward Gibbon, in his 18th century book Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, the first systematic history of the later Empire, points to homosexuality as a cause of the fall of Rome.

Point already made.

A lot of comparisons have been drawn between ancient Rome and modern America.

Dr. Carle Zimmerman in 1947 wrote a book called Family and Civilization. He studies the decline of several civilizations and empires. He discovered eight patterns of domestic behavior that signaled the decline of a civilization:

1. The breakdown of marriage and rise of divorce.

And HOW was this caused by homosexuality? You said yourself its a new fad. Right now, nearly HALF of all straight marriages end in divorce.. and 80% of divorcees remarry.. Hmm.. if there's soo many gay people out there destroying marriage, why are these people getting married again?

2. The loss of the traditional meaning of the marriage ceremony.

False. Just untrue. Now I can admit that none christions have contributed to the loss of triditional marriage ceremonys.. but seeings as gay people CAN'T GET MARRIED.. you can't pin this on them.

3. The rise of Feminism.

I got 5 words for you but I can't say them here.. so I'll just say you are a pig if you believe this crap.

4. Increased public disrespect for parents and authority in general.

Drugs sex and rock and roll... sure! I'll believe that! But being gay means you hate your parents? Why is it the stereotypical homosexual HIDES their state from their parents.. even to the point of marrying a straight partner and bearing children? That's real disrespect there.

5. Acceleration of juvenile delinquency, promiscuity and rebellion.

..... The world just DOOMED because of gay people.. is there anything that HASN'T been blamed on homosexuality?

6. Refusal of people with traditional marriages to accept their family responsibilities.

What? How so? Proof? This guys just spewing out whatever he can think up now.

7. A growing desire for and acceptance of adultery.

Straight people do this.. again.. because gay people can't get married How is it their fault?

8. Increasing interest in and spread of sexual perversions (homosexuality) and sex-related crimes.

Alright, I wanted to look this one up, and did.

Ninety-six percent of rapists are heterosexual and only four percent of same sex assaults are homosexual assaults.

http://sexualassault.cnu.edu/truefalse.html

See any parallels in modern America? Maybe we should be listening to Rep. Kern a little more carefully.

Just... HAH!

Every historian – even modern homosexual revisionists – admit that Rome was riddled with homosexuals. Hadrian, one of the best emperors, traveled the empire with a youthful lover, Antinous. Caligula and Nero were accused of having sex with just about anyone or anything.

Here’s another historical fact. Rampant homosexuality among the upper classes in Rome led to a decline in the birth rate among aristocrats and reduced the pool of leadership manpower.

Now this I don't see a point in arguing with... but there is a huge difference between them and us. For starters, they relied on the royal class and you HAD to be born into it.. where as we make our royalty.. you don't HAVE to be born into it, even if most people are. The other factor is there are 300 million children without homes in the US, and homosexual couples are very welling to adopt.....

In the fifth century AD, Rome was a mess. Germanic Goths overran the Northeastern Roman border in 406.

Other non-Christian tribes - Vandals, Franks, Burgundians, Lombards, Visigoths, and Ostro-goths –posed serious threats to external Roman security. Rome’s internal problems made a unified response impossible.

In 410 AD, Alaric led the Visigoths into Rome and the city was taken for the first time in 1,000 years.

The Western Roman Empire fell again to the Vandals in AD 455, and again in AD 476, when Germanic tribes over-ran it.

I'm ignoring this, as it has nothing to do with the topic and is purely religions.

Continued-----

Edited November 3, 2008 by KyrusRose

[KyrusRose]

Rome was riddled with pederasty (literally “boy-love”), which refers to an intimate relationship between a boy and an adult male outside his family.

Despite what the bible might have told you, homosexuals aren't all pedophiles. Get over that myth. And I'll bring the media into this one.. the perfect body in ancient Rome was slim, tall and graceful.. Say... Angelina Joli. We've molded our women to be exactly what these men wanted. Its not natural at all.. but all of that lust focused on the perfect body.. is now focused on women.

Every major religion in the world – including Islam – condemns homosexual behavior. In “peaceful” Muslim countries, practicing homosexuals are often killed.

*checks her Wiccan handbook* Hmm... Ohh right.. Major religion.. as in Christianity.

Homosexuality is condemned in the Old Testament in Leviticus 20:13 and in the New Testament in Romans 1. In Matthew, male and female relationships are the only sexual relationships allowed by Jesus (Matthew 19:4-6).

But homosexuality is not the core issue. The real issue is when a nation turns its back on God.

If you study scripture, you understand that the sin of homosexuality is as bad as promiscuity, fornication, prostitution, bestiality and any sexual activity apart from holy matrimony between one man and one woman.

This is hedonism, which places personal pleasure above any concept of right or wrong. So, modern homosexuals are rejecting God’s plan for righteous fulfillment of a God-given sex drive and replacing it for a “if it feels good, do it,” philosophy.

More bible thumping.. take it to the religious thread, please.

And homosexuality, like prostitution, bestiality, etc., is a destructive lifestyle. It always damages those who get caught up in it.

LIES. How is a CONSENTING relationship between two people who love each other destructive!!??? I have 2 gay brothers and numerous gay friends and if it weren't for people like you they would be leading very HAPPY lives!

Homosexual men rarely have monogamous relationships. That greatly increases the risk of disease from their unnatural acts.

This is a myth.. PLEASE try to use facts. AIDs is not caused by homosexuality, NO STD IS CAUSED BY HOMOSEXUALITY!

A homosexual publication printed the following statistics:

• 24 percent of homosexual men had more than 100 partners.

• 43 percent of homosexual men had more than 500 partners.

• 28 percent of homosexual men had more than 1,000 partners.

ok.. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

HAHAHHAHAHAH... done.

A study by the Journal of Sex Research showed that only 2.7 percent of the 2,583 older homosexuals surveyed claimed to have sex with only one partner.

See above.

The risk of anal cancer(?????????) for homosexual men rises by an amazing 4,000 percent and doubles again for those who are HIV positive. According to the Centers for Disease Control, homosexual men are a thousand times more likely to contract AIDS than the general male heterosexual population.

How OLD is this report?????? You know I can't even touch this one here, I would have to start a whole new thread.. did you even READ this crap before you posted it????

If your risk of being killed by a terrorist rose by 4,000 percent, you would probably take steps to stop it.

Yep.. gay people blow up buildings.. I see that.. you have changed my way of thinking.... *sarcasm*

So, when you place homosexuality in the context of a move away from God’s morality to selfishness and licentiousness, it suddenly does become more dangerous than a terrorist with a bomb in a subway.

Sally was right. The homosexuals, including those who sent her death threats, are dead wrong.

If America continues down a path of rejection of God’s standards, we will suffer the same fate as Rome.

Sally is a bigot and I would have sent her a death threat too if she was saying all that BS about me.

AND YES I DO BELIEVE GOD WILL SOON RAIN JUDGEMENT ON THIS NATION. Continue on with all this prostitution, homosexuality, adultery, high divorce rate and whatnot.

All you Homo Lovers and "RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE" BS. Alright then. WE shall be judged!

May the Goddess have mercy on you...