BNP fury as ENTIRE membership list of 10,000

[Cetacea]

what groups engender hate towards others and politically furthers it by decreasing the rights of others ? I wonder??Who would be making laws daily that takes rights away from people? who would be be engendering hate world wide by constant warfare ? who would be spying on people using an orwellian camera network that can track your every move from one end of the country to the other? who would recklessly destroy a country steal billions of £s of future taxpayers money? who would allow such policies that would bring so many different cultures together in such a small space and in areas of poverty knowing damn well it would cause tension,friction and hate? I don,t honestly know.

Yeah, lets just take away the rights of all black and Asians instead, because that is far better.

[Bill Hill]

As to your last comment, I'm confused. I wasn't aware that there was any other sort of Nazi than a white one.

That I think is the fundamental flaw. I respectfully disagree... I just can't support an ideology which deals in denial.

Only now, can you just acknowledge the immigration and gang problem without being accused of being racist.

It took years. And I can safely say... nothing will be done about it.

As for the BNP, mmh 10,000 members compared to a population of 60,776,238 (July 2007 est.)

What's that? 0.016453798 %

so you will be prejudiced, against the white prejudiced for now.Then prejudiced against the prejudiced of other races when that battle needs fighting. uhhhh.confusing.Doesn,t that make you prejudiced against prejudiced people. I was never taught politics at school just the usual rr and a. I think the brainwashing programming is a recent devolpment.

I wouldn't try and work it out corporate.. imo there should be a warning label- trying to understand the double-standards and contradiction of the idealistic, will lead to temporal insanity.

Edited November 20, 2008 by Bill Hill

[itsnotoutthere]

As an interesting insight into the way things are going, my daughter came home from college yesterday, & during a conversation over dinner told me that her lecturer had told the class that there was a party being organized at the college one particular evening & So the common room would be out of action that evening. The lecturer then went on to explain that the party was being organized solely for the black & ethinc students, & that the white students were not to attend. My daughter & others pointed out to the lecturer that surely this was discrimination & apperently the lecturer looked shock at this suggestion. I told my daughter (tongue in cheek) to get together with some friends & organize a whites only party & see how far she gets. Nevermind perhaps it's better she doesn't go, the evening is bound to end with a couple of stabbings.

The thing I cannot get my head around is that the college staff are obviously 'o.k.' with this.

p.s. please strike the term 'ethnic' from the above piece, as the term 'ethnic minority' is now officially deemed politically incorrect according to the same college staff.

My daughters class were given instruction on terms not to use. The correct term is now 'dual heritage' (though this could change depending on somebodys whim.)

Edited November 20, 2008 by itsnotoutthere

[The Brain Overlord]

Yeah, lets just take away the rights of all black and Asians instead, because that is far better.

Yeah good idea! erm HANG ON, WHAT? you cant say that

[chemical-licker]

Yeah good idea! erm HANG ON, WHAT? you cant say that

i have checked cetacea location and hoping the picture is of her then she can say it. remember only if an english person said it then

TO HELL WITH THEM HANG THEM AND THROW AWAY THE KEY.

[Bill Hill]

^ I'm lost, can you explain that one Chem?

[chemical-licker]

^ I'm lost, can you explain that one Chem?

if i ave too,

i have checked cetacea location and hoping the picture is of her then she can say it. remember only if an english person said it then

TO HELL WITH THEM HANG THEM AND THROW AWAY THE KEY.

only white british people can be racist that explain it.

[Bill Hill]

if i ave too,

only white british people can be racist that explain it.

Right... with you. ok... carry on.

[eqgumby]

So nice to see the UK catching up with us so-called racists here in America. Well done! We'll be sending over our trailer-parks, Budweiser, and pointy-headed pillowcases ASAP.

[northernsunrise34]

This is a disgrace and a blow to freedom of speech in England. Whoever's responsible for this should be brought to justice, but I doubt that they will be. After all, most "decent" people, thanks to incessant PC propaganda, view the BNP (and "their ilk") as scum even though the BNP are not a subversive organization that's out to wreck havoc upon society. Quite the contrary, they are an aboveboard, law-abiding political party. Whether one agrees with their far Right political leanings or not, the bigger issue should always be preserving freedom of speech and freedom of association. Unfortunately for the BNP (and ALL political dissidents of the Right- or Left), the powers that be and their compliant mass media think otherwise and will do everything in their power to stifle political alternatives. It's actually very similar to the situation we have here in the U.S., third party candidates are either completely ignored or portrayed as "lunatic fringe" by the controlled mass media, this, too, is a form of political censorship imposed from above and it is extremely effective. The BNP, to their credit and unlike the third parties we have here in the U.S., were able to defy their critics and make a small but significant dent in a corrupt political system. But because of their small successes they were considered too much of a risk and needed to be "taught a lesson", so to speak. Sadly, I think that the BNP's days are numbered.

I wonder if it was really a disgruntled former BNP member who leaked these names (as the article suggests) or if it was somebody much higher up in the establishment who did this.

[hetrodoxly]

As to your last comment, I'm confused. I wasn't aware that there was any other sort of Nazi than a white one.

Are you joking? Grand Mufti Amin Al Husseini ran Hitlers own Muslim Waffen SS, mein kampf is still a best seller in Islam.

[hetrodoxly]

Here's the official line.

STOP PRESS!!! - STOP PRESS!!! - STOP PRESS!!!

November 20, 2008 by Nick Griffin Print this post Email This Post

Dear Friend,

I’m writing this personal ‘stop press’ letter to you to give you a better insight into the extraordinary media barrage about the BNP ‘leaked’ list. Nothing could show better just how frightened the liberal ‘elite’ now are of our coming breakthrough.

I deeply regret the leak of that year-old list by a disgruntled former employee, because everyone is entitled to privacy. Over this year the party has invested heavily in new technology and procedures to stop this type of thing from happening again as far as humanely possible.

We are also working very closely with the police to track down and punish those responsible for the co-ordinated campaign against our party and members. The other good news is that there really is more silver lining than cloud in this case.

First, I’m pleased to be able to tell you categorically that the recently passed Equality Act means that the only jobs from which our people can legally be barred are in the police and prison services.

In all other professions, including teaching and all civil service jobs, any persecution on political grounds would lead to the BNP member concerned getting a huge compensation payout for unfair dismissal.

We have just secured a commitment from a firm of highly experienced employment rights lawyers to act, pro bono, on behalf of any person on the list. In addition, the independent nationalist trade union Solidarity, will also take up the case for free.

It was a Solidarity rep who recently secured from the Teaching Council of Britain the admission that there is no reason why BNP members cannot be teachers, provided they leave their politics at the school gates. This makes a mockery of the attempt to frighten our people by the journalists and trade union call centre workers who called up making all sorts of empty threats.

I know that you and all our other loyal members are made of tougher stuff than the general population. Our ‘Band of Brothers’ is standing firm through the list storm and all the other attacks launched by our increasingly desperate opponents.

The publicity about the high quality of our membership has massively improved our image. As a direct result we had more than 100,000 visitors to our website in one 24-hour peak period, and estimate many times more than that amount never managed to get through due to the demand on our servers. Those that did succeed in getting through read nearly two thirds of a million pages. This was double the previous record, which was set when we made our huge London Assembly breakthrough earlier this year.

The whole affair has blown up in the faces of the plotters and the anti-British traitors. The public are more eager for our message than ever, and many of our new website visitors will keep coming back, become committed nationalists, and join our ranks.

It is testament to our growing strength that the enemies of this country have resorted to such a disgraceful and underhand attack on all of us and our personal liberty – but their stunt has backfired on them big-time! Thank you for your continued help in getting our message of hope across.

Yours sincerely,

Nick Griffin.

British National Party Chairman.

[The Brain Overlord]

Here is a picture of the church Vicar who was on the BNP member list.

I know what your all thinking! I cant quite believe George Lucas is a member of the BNP either, But i guess it makes sense, i knew Jah Jah Binks was a racist take on Jamaicans

Edited November 20, 2008 by The Brain Overlord

[GreyWeather]

I'd find it brilliant if a black guy was a member of the BNP.

Edit: A sneaky 'E' sneaked in.

Edited November 20, 2008 by GreyWeather

[ships-cat]

Sheesh... If you want an example of the screaming paranoi about the BNP, then look no further.

The moderators of this board will not permit a link... in a post here... to any articles on the official BNP website.

Labour party website ? No problem.

Conservatives ? no problem

Liberals ? if you can FIND their website.

BNP website (despite being the most popular political website in the UK)... nope.

I'm not critising the moderators per se. or even Saruman <genuflcect> ... it's just that if you even LINK to the BNP website (most populuar etc etc), then a thousand unwashed and smelly "Anti-Fa" protesters will throw bricks through your window.

Kristalnacht, indeed.

Amazing how the "antif-fascists" are so COMFORTABLE with the fascist techniques of suppressing freedom of speech.... "in order to protect you"

Meow Purr

[hetrodoxly]

Sheesh... If you want an example of the screaming paranoi about the BNP, then look no further.

The moderators of this board will not permit a link... in a post here... to any articles on the official BNP website.

Labour party website ? No problem.

Conservatives ? no problem

Liberals ? if you can FIND their website.

BNP website (despite being the most popular political website in the UK)... nope.

I'm not critising the moderators per se. or even Saruman <genuflcect> ... it's just that if you even LINK to the BNP website (most populuar etc etc), then a thousand unwashed and smelly "Anti-Fa" protesters will throw bricks through your window.

Kristalnacht, indeed.

Amazing how the "antif-fascists" are so COMFORTABLE with the fascist techniques of suppressing freedom of speech.... "in order to protect you"

Meow Purr

It would be nice if the moderators would tell us why they won't allow a link to the BNP web site?

[Sthenno]

so you will be prejudiced, against the white prejudiced for now.Then prejudiced against the prejudiced of other races when that battle needs fighting. uhhhh.confusing.Doesn,t that make you prejudiced against prejudiced people. I was never taught politics at school just the usual rr and a. I think the brainwashing programming is a recent devolpment.

Um... what?

Are you suggesting that attacking people for being racist is a form of prejudice in itself? If so then I find that ridiculous. By that logic you would never stand up to anything you felt was wrong, for fear or being perceived as fascist. Now that really would be 'political correctness gone mad'...

[TSS]

Sheesh... If you want an example of the screaming paranoi about the BNP, then look no further.

The moderators of this board will not permit a link... in a post here... to any articles on the official BNP website.

Labour party website ? No problem.

Conservatives ? no problem

Liberals ? if you can FIND their website.

BNP website (despite being the most popular political website in the UK)... nope.

I'm not critising the moderators per se. or even Saruman <genuflcect> ... it's just that if you even LINK to the BNP website (most populuar etc etc), then a thousand unwashed and smelly "Anti-Fa" protesters will throw bricks through your window.

Kristalnacht, indeed.

Amazing how the "antif-fascists" are so COMFORTABLE with the fascist techniques of suppressing freedom of speech.... "in order to protect you"

Meow Purr

Well, technically, they could/would breach these rules:

2h. Agenda posting: Do not use the site to promote an agenda. This often involves the starting of forum threads or making posts which appear to be legitimate in nature but which are aimed at surreptitiously promoting some political view, religious belief or to attack or criticise other members, beliefs or views in an underhand manner which detracts from unbiased and fair discussion.

3a. Racism or hatred: Do not post racist or hate-driven material or views which express hatred towards or discriminate against any specific race, religion, country, gender, individual or group.

It's not really a case of positive discrimination, more a case of the BNP positioning themselves into a place where their views on discrimination make them discriminated against under racism and hatred laws (on this forum anyway).

I'd be interested to see what the mods say.

[chemical-licker]

It would be nice if the moderators would tell us why they won't allow a link to the BNP web site?

i back this, just hope i dont get banned

[Talon]

The SNP are in power in Scotland right now; please, find me one scrap of evidence that they are deporting English people or launching terrorist attacks into England. You can’t and you wont, because its doesn’t exist.

.

Yep Talon, I'd just knew you'd be along defending the SNP.

If Scotland had the amount of immigration, England has had.. I think you'd find the policies of the SNP changing.

Sorry, what is the criteria of being Scottish?Can you be Scottish, a member of the SNP.. if you don't give a damn about Scotland or even speak English?

I wonder...

- Snip - The SNP would not go far-right just because immigration rose. As for “can you be Scottish, a member of SNP” hate to brake it to you – they’re not one and the same, there are many Scots who are not SNP members, and lots of non-Scots who are SNP members. Check out their membership before you post your racist dribble – the SNP are actually a turn off for the racist vote because they have a large number of Muslim members and first-generation immigrant members – a far cry from the BNP or any other neo-Nazi party.

I recognise you don’t like Scottish people Bill Hill, and you see anyone wanting to leave the UK as a traitor, but if you know nothing about something other than your own uneducated opinions based on no evidence whatsoever – then please, keep them to yourself.

Actually I'm of Scottish descent. As you well know the main reason the SNP got voted in, is thanks to;

One albeit slightly racist Australian. well, when drunk.

Mr Mel Gibson.

Yeah, people voted them because of a ten year old movie.. right

Edited November 21, 2008 by Saru
Removed personal attack

[Bernie Plummer]

- Comment removed -

I must say, i find this level of aggression on another UM member quite disturbing, i feel that if one cant execute a concise & respectful point, then they should refrain from posting, for purpose of not offending other members.

[Bill Hill]

- Snip - The SNP would not go far-right just because immigration rose.

To take a line from the emperor ...'Good...good feel the hatred.' One step closer to the dark side of National Socialism.

See, National socialism only get classed as the far-right, when it goes wrong!

National socialists.... mmmmh... I'm sorry what are the NAZI's again? I can't hear you?

The clue's in the name.

Here's another connection.

British National Party-Scottish National Party... mmmh

the SNP are actually a turn off for the racist vote because they have a large number of Muslim members and first-generation immigrant members –

Rubbish. They're only members because it's good for business, and so they don't fall foul of the 'racists.'

I mean, living in Scotland, and not supporting Scottish culture? ..... I think they want to live

a far cry from the BNP or any other neo-Nazi party

Apparently the BNP has a lot of Jewish supporters..

And a Jewish councillor, Pat Richardson.

go figure..

Yeah, people voted them because of a ten year old movie.. right

Er yes that is right.

The SNP... were seen as antiquated old 1970's socialist idiots...

Then along comes a historically incorrect film.. and everyone's crying for... for FREEDOM!!!!

They even built a statue of Mel Gibson... and made him a "honorary" Scot,

And Mel Gibson, has even made it on the list of the top 20 Scottish Icons.

I recognise you don’t like Scottish people Bill Hill, and you see anyone wanting to leave the UK as a traitor, but if you know nothing about something other than your own uneducated opinions based on no evidence whatsoever – then please, keep them to yourself.

I am Scottish! lol yes I know Talon, that does 'not compute' to your mentality. Oh and I love the people... well that's not strictly true.

I only like 'individuals' and individuals from any background.

But the most interesting are those who can break the bonds from the indoctrination of their original culture.

Oh and I live in England, so you'll probably class me as a Traitor.

[Saru]

It would be nice if the moderators would tell us why they won't allow a link to the BNP web site?

There is nothing to stop anyone from linking to the BNP web site however if such a link contains material or views that exhibit discrimination, racism or hatred then the link is likely to be removed for that reason.

Regarding this thread in general - personal attacks and namecalling are not conducive to a good discussion and nor are comments designed to be deliberately antagonistic. Lets keep this civil please.

[Mattshark]

Sheesh... If you want an example of the screaming paranoi about the BNP, then look no further.

The moderators of this board will not permit a link... in a post here... to any articles on the official BNP website.

Labour party website ? No problem.

Conservatives ? no problem

Liberals ? if you can FIND their website.

BNP website (despite being the most popular political website in the UK)... nope.

I'm not critising the moderators per se. or even Saruman <genuflcect> ... it's just that if you even LINK to the BNP website (most populuar etc etc), then a thousand unwashed and smelly "Anti-Fa" protesters will throw bricks through your window.

Kristalnacht, indeed.

Amazing how the "antif-fascists" are so COMFORTABLE with the fascist techniques of suppressing freedom of speech.... "in order to protect you"

Meow Purr

That is because the BNP are racist scum and do discriminate. You could have had family here for 100's of year, but if you are black or Asian they will not recognise you as British.

Edited November 21, 2008 by Mattshark

[Mattshark]

I'd find it brilliant if a black guy was a member of the BNP.

Edit: A sneaky 'E' sneaked in.

It is against the party rules to be black. I mean that seriously, it is a white only party.