ethiopian dude Posted January 27, 2009 #1 Share Posted January 27, 2009 LIST OF ETHIOPIAN KINGS by H.I.H. Tafari Makonnen, G.C.B.. G.C.M.G., L.L.D. June 19, 1922 Published in: In The Country of The Blue Nile by C.F. Rey, F.R.G.S., Commander of the Order of the Star of Ethiopia Negro University Press, New York "May this reach my honourable friend Mr. Rey. Greetings to you. As you ask me to send you the names of the Ethiopian Kings and the history of the Ethiopian Kings of Kings (Emperors), herewith I have taken a copy and send it to you. I. TRIBE OR POSTERITY OF ORI OR ARAM Name of Soveriegn Length of Reign Year of the World Before Christ I. Ori or Aram 60 970-1030 4470 II. Gariak I 66 1096 4404 III. Gannkam 83 1179 4321 IV. Borsa (Queen) 67 1246 4254 V. Gariak II 60 1306 4194 VI. Djan I 80 1386 4114 VII. Djan II 60 1446 4054 VIII. Senefrou 20 1466 4034 IX. Zeenabzamin 58 1524 3976 X. Sahlan 60 1584 3916 XI. Elaryan 80 1664 3836 XII. Nimroud 60 1724 3776 XIII. Eylouka (Queen) 45 1769 3731 XIV. Saloug 30 1799 3701 XV. Kharid 72 1871 3629 XVI. Hogeb 100 1971 3529 XVII. Makaws 70 2041 3459 XVIII. Assa 30 2071 3429 XIX. Affar 50 2121 3379 XX. Milanos 62 2183 3317 XXI. Soliman Tehagi 73 2256 3244 Total: 21 Sovereigns of the Tribe of Ori. From the Deluge until the fall of the Tower of Babel 531 2787 2713 II. SOVEREIGNTY OF THE TRIBE OF KAM AFTER THE FALL OF THE TOWER OF BABEL I. Kam 78 2865 2635 II. Kout (son of the preceding) 50 2915 2585 III. Habassi 40 2955 2545 IV. Sebtah 30 2985 2515 V. Elektron 30 3015 2485 VI. Neber 30 3045 2455 VII. Amen 21 3066 2434 VIII. Nehasset Nais (Queen) 30 3096 2404 IX. Horkam 29 3125 2375 X. Saba II 30 3155 2345 XI. Sofard 30 3185 2315 XII. Askndou 25 3210 2290 XIII. Hohey 35 3245 2255 XIV. Adglag 20 3265 2235 XV. Adgala 30 3295 2205 XVI. Lakniduga 25 3320 2180 XVII. Manturay 35 3355 2145 XVIII. Rakhu 30 3385 2115 XIX. Sabe I 30 3415 2085 XX. Azagan 30 3445 2055 XXI. Sousel Atozanis 20 3465 2035 XXII. Amen II 15 3480 2020 XXIII. Ramenpahte 20 3500 2000 XXIV. Wanuna 3 days -- -- XXV. Piori I 15 3515 1985 Total: 25 Sovereigns of the Tribe of Kam, plus 21 sovereigns of the tribe of Ori. -- Grand Total, 46 Sovereigns. III. AGDAZYAN DYNASTY OF THE POSTERITY OF THE KINGDOM OF JOCTAN I. Akbunas Saba II 55 3570 1930 II. Nakehte Kalnis 40 3610 1871 III. Kasiyope (Queen) 19 3629 1890 IV. Sabe II 15 3644 1856 V. Etiyopus I 56 3700 1800 VI. Lakndun Nowarari 30 3730 1770 VII. Tutimheb 20 3750 1750 VIII. Herhator I 20 3770 1730 IX. Etiypus II 30 3800 1700 X. Senuka I 17 3817 1683 XI. Bonu I 8 3825 1675 XII. Mumazes (Queen) 4 3829 1671 XIII. Aruas (daughter of preceding) 7 months -- -- XIV. Amen Asro I 30 3859 1641 XV. Ori (or Aram) II 30 3889 1611 XVI. Piori II 15 3904 1596 XVII. Amen Emhat I 40 3944 1556 XVIII. Tsawi 15 3959 1541 XIX. Aktissanis 10 3969 1531 XX. Mandes 17 3986 1514 XXI. Protawos 33 4019 1481 XXII. Amoy 21 4040 1460 XXIII. Konsi Hendawi 5 4045 1455 XXIV. Bonu II 2 4047 1453 XXV. Sebi III (Kefe) 15 4062 1438 XXVI. Djagons 20 4082 1418 XXVII. Senuka II 10 4092 1408 XXVIII. Angabo I (Zaka Laarwe) 50 4142 1358 XXIX. Miamur 2 days -- -- XXX. Helena (Queen) 11 4163 1347 XXXI. Zagdur I 40 4193 1307 XXXII. Her Hator II 30 4223 1277 XXXIII. Her Hator (Za Sagado) III 1 4224 1276 XXXIV. Akate (Za Sagado) IV 20 4244 1256 XXXV. Titon Satiyo 10 4254 1246 XXXVI. Hermantu I 5 months -- -- XXXVII. Amen Emhat II 5 4259 1241 XXXVIII. Konsab I 5 4264 1236 XXXIX. Sannib II 5 4269 1231 XL. Sanuka III 5 4274 1226 XLI. Angabo II 40 4314 1186 XLII. Amen Astate 30 4344 1156 XLIII. Herhor 16 4360 1140 XLIV. Wiyankihi I 9 4369 1131 XLV. Pinotsem I 17 4386 1114 XLVI. Pinotsem II 41 4427 1073 XLVII. Massaherta 16 4443 1057 XLVIII. Ramenkoperm 14 4457 1043 XLIX. Pinotsem III 7 4464 1036 L. Sabi IV 10 4474 1026 LI. Tawasaya Dews 13 4487 1013 LII. Makeda 31 4518 982 Of the posterity of Ori up to the reign of Makeda 98 Sovereigns reigned over Ethiopia before the advent of Menelik I. IV. Dynasty of Menelik I. I. Menelik I 25 4543 957 II. Hanyon I 4544 956 III. Sera I (Tomai) 26 4570 930 IV. Amen Hotep Zagdur 31 4601 899 V. Aksumay Ramissu 20 4621 879 VI. Awseyo Sera II 38 4659 841 VII. Tawasya II 21 4680 820 VIII. Abralyus Wiyankihi II 32 4712 788 IX. Aksumay Warada Tsahay 23 4735 765 X. Kashta Hanyon 13 4748 752 XI. Sabaka II 12 4760 740 XII. Nicauta Kandae (Queen) 10 4770 730 XIII. Tsawi Terhak Warada Nagash 49 4819 681 XIV. Erda Amen Awseya 6 4825 675 XV. Gasiyo Eskikatir -- -- -- XVI. Nuatmeawn 4 4829 671 XVII. Tomadyon Piyankihi III 12 4841 659 XVIII. Amen Asero 16 4857 643 XIX. Piyankihi IV (Awtet) 34 4891 609 XX. Zaware Nebret Aspurta 41 4932 568 XXI. Saifay Harsiataw II 12 4944 556 XXII. Ramhay Nastossanan 14 4958 542 XXIII. Handu Wuha Abra 11 4969 531 XXIV. Safelya Sabakon 31 5000 500 XXV. Agalbus Sepekos 22 5022 478 XXVI. Psmenit Waradanegash 21 5043 457 XXVII. Awseya Tarakos 12 5055 445 XXVIII. Kanaz Psmis (son of preceding) 13 5068 432 XXIX. Apras 10 5078 422 XXX. Kashta Walda Ahuhu 20 5098 402 XXXI. Elalion Taake 10 5108 392 XXXII. Atserk Amen III 10 5118 382 XXXIII. Atserk Amen IV 10 5128 372 XXXIV. Hadina (Queen) 10 5138 362 XXXV. Atserk Amen V 10 5148 352 XXXVI. Atserk Amen VI 10 5158 342 XXXVII. Nikawla Kandat (Queen) 10 5168 332 XXXVIII. Bassyo 7 5175 325 XXXIX. Akawsis Kandake III (Queen) 10 5185 315 XL. Arkamen II 10 5195 305 XLI. Awtet Arawura 10 5205 295 XLII. Kolas II (Kaletro) 10 5215 285 XLIII. Zawre Nebrat 16 5231 269 XLIV. Stiyo 14 5245 255 XLV. Safay 13 5258 242 XLVI. Nikosis Kandake IV (Queen) 10 5268 232 XLVII. Ramhay Arkamen IV 10 5278 222 XLVIII. Feliya Hernekhit 15 5293 207 XLIX. Hende Awkerara 20 5313 187 L. Agabu Baseheran 10 5323 177 LI. Sulay Kawawmenun 20 5343 157 LII. Messelme Kerarmer 8 5351 149 LIII. Nagey Bsente 10 5361 139 LIV. Etbenukawer 10 5371 129 LV. Safeliya Abramen 20 5391 109 LVI. Sanay 10 5401 99 LVII. Awsena (Queen) 11 5412 88 LVIII. Dawit II 10 5422 78 LIX. Aglbul 8 5430 70 LX. Bawawl 10 5440 60 LXI. Barawas 10 5450 50 LXII. Dinedad 10 5460 40 LXIII. Amoy Mahasse 5 5465 35 LXIV. Nicotnis Kandake V 10 5475 25 LXV. Nalke 5 5480 20 LXVI. Luzay 12 5492 8 LXVII. Bazen Before Christ 8 5500 -- After Christ 9 5509 9 Before Christ 165 Sovereigns reigned. V. THOSE WHO REIGNED AFTER THE BIRTH OF CHRIST Name of Soveriegn Length of Reign Year of the World After Christ I. Sartu Tsenfa Assegd 21 5530 30 II. Akaptah Tsenfa Ared 8 5538 38 III. Horemtaku 2 5540 40 IV. Garsemot Kandake VI 10 5550 50 V. Hatosza Bahr Asaged 28 5578 78 VI. Mesenh Germasir 7 5585 85 VII. Metwa Germa Asfar 9 5594 94 VIII. Adgale II 10 yrs + 6 months 5604 104 XI. Agba 6 mo of Adgale + 6 mo 5605 105 X Serada 16 5621 121 XI. Malis Alameda 4 5625 125 XII. Hakabe Nasohi Tsiyon 6 5631 131 XIII. Hakli Sergway 12 5643 143 XIV. Dedme Zaray 10 5653 153 XV. Awtet 2 5655 155 XVI. ALaly Bagamay 7 5662 162 XVII. Awadu Jan Asagad 30 5692 192 XVIII. Zagun Tsion Hegez 5 5697 197 XIX. Rema Tsion Geza 3 5700 200 XX. Azegan Malbagad 7 5707 207 XXI. Gafale Seb Asagad 1 5708 208 XXII. Tsegay Beze Wark 4 5712 212 XXIII. Gaza Agdur 9 5721 221 XXIV. Agduba Asgwegwe 8 5729 229 XXV. Dawiza 1 5730 230 XXVI. Wakana (Queen) 2 days -- -- XXVII. Hadawz 4 months -- -- XXVIII. Ailassan Sagal 3 5733 233 XXIX. Asfehi Asfeha 14 5747 247 XXX. Atsgaba Seifa Arad 6 5753 253 XXXI. Ayba 17 5770 270 XXXII. Tsaham Laknduga 9 5779 279 XXIII. Tsegab 10 5789 289 XXXIV. Tazer 10 5799 299 XXXV. Ahywa Sofya (Queen) 7 5806 306 These thirty-five sovereigns at the time of Akapta Tsenfa Arad (ed.: From A.D. 30 to A.D. 38) had been christianised by the Apostle Saint Matthew. There were few men who did not believe, for they had heard the words of the gospel. After this Jen Daraba, favourite of the Queen of Ethiopia, Garsemat Kandake (ed.: From A.D. 40 to A.D. 50), crowned by Gabre Hawariat Kandake, had made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem according to the Law of Orit (the ancient law), and on his return Phillip the Apostle taught him the gospel, and after he had made him believe the truth he sent him back, baptising him in the name of the Trinity. The latter (the Queen's favourite), on his return to his country, taught by word of mouth the coming of our Saviour Jesus Christ and baptised them. Those who were baptised, not having found an Apostle to teach them the Gospel, had been living offering sacrifices to God according to the ancient prescription and the Jewish Law. VI. CHRONOLOGICAL TABLE OF THE CHRISTIAN SOVEREIGNS WHO RECEIVED BAPTISM AND FOLLOWED COMPLETELY THE LAW OF THE GOSPEL I. Ahywa (her regnal name was Sofya, and she was the mother of Abreha Atsbeha. The time of her reign was 7 years). II. Abreha Atsbeha (partly with his mother) 26 5832 332 III. Atsbeha (alone) 12 5844 344 IV. Asfeh Dalz 7 5851 351 V. Sahle 14 5865 365 VI. Arfed Gebra Maskal 4 5869 369 VII. Adhana I (Queen) 5 5874 374 VIII. Riti 1 5875 375 IX. Asfeh II 1 5876 376 X. Atsbeha II 5 5881 381 XI. Amey 15 5896 396 XII. Abreha II 7 months -- -- XIII. Ilassahl 2 months -- -- XIV. Elagabaz I 2 5898 398 XV. Suhal 4 5902 402 XVI. Abreha III 10 5912 412 XVII. Adhana II (Queen) 6 5918 418 XVIII. Yoab 10 5928 428 XIX. Tsaham I 2 5930 430 XX. Amey II 1 5931 431 XXI. Sahle Ahzob 2 5933 433 XXII. Tsebah Mahana Kristos 3 5936 436 XXIII. Tsaham II 2 5938 438 XXIV. Elagabaz II 6 5944 444 XXV. Agabi 1 5945 445 XXVI. Lewi 2 5947 447 XXVII. Ameda III 3 5950 450 XXVIII. Armah Dawit 14 5964 464 XXIX. Amsi 5 5969 469 XXX. Salayba 9 5978 478 XXXI. Alameda 8 5986 486 XXXII. Pazena Ezana 7 5993 493 Of the posterity of Sofya and Abreha Atsbeha until the reign of Pazena Ezana 31 Sovereigns reigned over Ethiopia: from Ori until the reign of Pazena Ezana 230 sovereigns. VII. DYNASTY OF ATSE (EMPEROR) KALEB UNTIL GEDAJAN I. Kaleb 30 6023 523 II. Za Israel 1 month -- -- III. Gabra Maskal 14 6037 537 IV. Kostantinos 28 6065 565 V. Wasan Sagad 15 6080 580 VI. Fere Sanay 23 6103 603 VII. Advenz 20 6123 623 VIII. Akala Wedem 8 6131 631 IX. Germa Asafar 15 6146 646 X. Zergaz 10 6156 656 XI. Dagena Mikael 26 6182 682 XII. Bahr Ekla 19 6201 701 XIII. Gum 24 6225 725 XIV. Asguagum 5 6230 730 XV. Latem 16 6246 746 XVI. Talatam 21 6267 767 XVII. Gadagosh 13 6280 780 XVIII. Aizar Eskakatir 1/2 day -- -- XIX. Dedem 5 6285 785 XX. Wededem 10 6295 795 XXI. Wudme Asfare 30 6325 825 XXII. Armah 5 6330 830 XXIII. Degennajam 19 6349 849 XXIV. Gedajan 1 6350 850 XXV. Gudit 40 6390 890 XXVI. Anbase Wedem 20 6410 910 XXVII. Del Naad 10 6420 920 27 sovereigns of the posterity of Kaleb; 257 in all. VIII. SOVEREIGNS ISSUED FROM ZAGWE I. Mara Takla Haymanot (His regnal name was Zagwe) 13 6433 933 II. Tatawdem 40 6473 973 III. Jan Seyum 40 6513 1013 IV. Germa Seyum 40 6553 1053 V. Yermrhana Kristos 40 6593 1093 VI. Kedus Arbe (samt) 40 6633 1133 VII. Lalibala 40 6673 1173 VIII. Nacuto Laab 40 6713 1213 IX. Yatbarak 17 6730 1230 X. Mayrari 15 6745 1245 XI. Harbay 8 6753 1253 Of the posterity of Mara Takla Haymanot (whose regnal name was Zagwe) until the reign of Harbay 11 sovereigns reigned over Ethiopia; 268 sovereigns in all. CHRONOLOGICAL TABLE OF THE 8 GENERATIONS OF AN ISRAELITISH DYNASTY, WHO WERE NOT RAISED TO THE THRONE, DURING THE PERIOD OF THE REIGN OF THE POSTERITY OF ZAGWE. I. Mahbara Wedem II. Agbea Tsion III. Tsinfa Arad IV. Nagash Zare V. Asfeh VI. Yacob VII. Bahr Asagad VIII. Edem Asagad These eight did not mount the throne. IX. CHRONOLOGICAL TABLE OF THE SOVEREIGNS FROM YEKUNO AMLAK, EMPEROR, AND OF HIS POSTERITY, ALL ISSUED FROM THE ANCIENT DYNASTIES WHICH WERE RAISED TO THE THRONE. I. Yekuno Amlak 15 6768 1268 II. Yasbeo Tseyon 9 6777 1277 III. Tsenfa Arad 1 6778 1278 IV. Hesba Asagad 1 6779 1279 V. Kedme Asagad 1 6780 1280 VI. Jan Asagad 1 6781 1281 VII. Sabea Asagad 1 6782 1282 VIII. Wedma Ared 15 6797 1297 IX. Amda Tseyon 30 6827 1327 X. Saifa Ared 28 6855 1355 XI. Wedma Asfare 10 6865 1365 XII. Dawit 30 6895 1395 XIII. Tewodoros 4 6899 1399 XIV. Yeshak 15 6914 1414 XV. Andreyas 6 months -- -- XVI. Hesba Nafi 4 6918 1418 XVII. Bedl Nafi 1 (6 mo with Andreyas) 6919 1419 XVIII. Amde Tseyon 7 6926 1426 XIX. Zara Yacob 34 6960 1460 XX. Boeda Maryam 10 6970 1470 XXI. Iskender 16 6986 1486 XXII. Amda Tseyon 1 6987 1487 XXIII. Naod 13 7000 1500 Of the posterity of Yekuno Amlak up to the reign of Naod 23 sovereigns ruled over Ethiopia; in all 291 sovereigns. X. ELEVATION TO THE THRONE OF ATSE (EMPEROR) LEBNA DENGEL, AND THE INVASION OF ETHIOPIA BY GRAN. I. Lebna Dengel 32 7032 1532 II. Galawdewos 19 7051 1551 III. Minas 4 7055 1555 Grand Total: 294 sovereigns. Fifteen years after Atse (emperor) Lebna Dengel came to the throne Gran devasted Ethiopia for fifteen years. XI. THE HOUSE OF GONDAR I. Sartsa Dengel 34 7089 1589 II. Yakob 9 7098 1598 III. Za Dengel I 7099 1599 IV. Susneyos 28 7127 1627 V. Fasil 35 7162 1662 VI. Degu-Johannis 15 7177 1677 VII. Adyam Sagad Iyasu 25 7202 1702 VIII. Takla Haymanot 2 7204 1704 IX. Tewoflus 3 7207 1707 X. Yostos 4 7211 1711 XI. Dawit 5 7216 1716 XII. Bakaffa 9 7225 1725 XIII. Birhan Sagad Iyasu 24 7249 1749 XIV. Iyoas 15 7264 1764 XV. Johannis 5 months + 5 days -- --- XVI. Takla Haymanot 8 7272 1772 XVII. Solomon 2 7274 1774 XVIII. Takla Giyorgis 5 7279 1779 Of the posterity of Sarisa Dengel up to the reign of King Takla Giyorgis 18 sovereigns reigned over Ethiopia. From Ori to Takla Giyorgis the total is 312 sovereigns. [Thus concludes the List of Ethiopian Kings forwarded by H.I.H. Ras Makonnen, now H.I.M. Emperor Haile Selassie I] XII. SOVEREIGNS OF ETHIOPIA SUBSEQUENT TO THE FOREGOING LIST Although the list given me by the Regent concludes in the year given as EC 1779, I have thought it desirable to bring the tale up to date, and have completed the following list from various sources. In this connection it should be noted that for some fifty years prior to the reign of the last king mentioned in the foregoing list (i.e. since about 1730 up to the advent of Theodore in 1855) the kings had exercised no real power, and had been murdered, deposed, restored and driven out again, or treated as nonentities by anyone of the great Rases of semi-independent kings who were strong enough to maintain themselves against their rivals, such as, for example, Ras Kikael Suhul of Tigre (1730-80), Ras Guksa of Amhara, a Galla (1790-1819), and the son (Ras Marye) and grandson (Ras Ali) of the latter. In 1813, indeed, no less than six nominal "Kings of Kings of Ethiopia" were all alive, having been successively turned out of office by others. The names of all these kings (who were actually raised to the throne) are, however, given below in order to maintain continuity, together with the dates (according to the western calendar) of their chequered reigns: Yasus 1784-88 Takla Haymanot 1788-89 Iskias 1789-95 Baeda Maryam 1795- 97 Junus 1797 Adimo 1797-99 Egwala Sion 1799-1818 Joas 1818-21 Gigar 1821-26 Baeda Maryam III 1826 Gigar (again) 1826-30 Iyasu IV 1830-32 Gabra Kristos 1832 Sahala Dengel 1832-40 Johannes III 1840-41 Sahala Dengel (again) 1841-55 From this period dates the re-establishment of the empire, and the rapid extension of the powers of its sovereigns. From then until to-day they are: Theodore 1855-68 John IV 1868-89 Menelik II 1889-1913 Lej Yasu 1913-16 Zauditu (Empress) & Tafari Makonnen (Regent & Heir) 1916 Negus Tafari Makonnen (King) 1928-1930 HIM Haile Selassie I 1930-1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Rebel Posted January 27, 2009 #2 Share Posted January 27, 2009 And the point of this is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey14 Posted January 27, 2009 #3 Share Posted January 27, 2009 And the point of this is... Exactly what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 27, 2009 #4 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Let's find out what the point is... Here's where the list comes from: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesost...ile-selassie-i/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernkeeper Posted January 27, 2009 #5 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Ethiopia is awesome... I mean, Ive never been but the country with its history and people have such a quality that i find irresistable. As soon as i get a chance I will go over and check it out, I think the landscapes of the country and the sentiments of the people there hearken back with echoes to such an early point of humanity, and maybe humanities first verifiable connection with the divine. I dont know why the OP posted this, but cheers, it serves no purpose other than to set my imagination rolling, but for that alone I thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted January 27, 2009 #6 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Let's find out what the point is... Here's where the list comes from: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesost...ile-selassie-i/ Here's another snippet from a rastalivewire site too: The whole Canaanite area was also called “Aram”, and its inhabitant “Arameans.” hence the language they spoke came to be known as ‘Aramaic.’ http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesost...y-dr-anu-mauro/ Possibly from the bolded names it refers to the settling of Palestine by the Ethiopians (possibly a Phoenician/Ethiopian settlement) which we can see in the myth of Perseus and Andromeda being located at modern day Jaffa (Joffa), the early Greeks of the Perseidae lineage, including Heracles had this background. Nimroud, son of Cush (Ethiopia). Nimrod built the Tower of Babel. Queen Helena...? of Sparta Electron could be Electryon, who became King of Mycenae and was also a son of Perseus and Andromeda. All Perseus children also had Danaan blood. (The tribe of Dan?) Then it looks to me as if the King list corroborates the Greek myth of Perseus and Andromeda, I see Queen Cassiopeia there... That myth points out the ancient Greeks of the Perseus lineage had Ethiopian blood that derived from a Palestinian area settled by Ethiopians. Edited January 27, 2009 by The Puzzler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernkeeper Posted January 27, 2009 #7 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Here's another snippet from a rastalivewire site too: The whole Canaanite area was also called “Aram”, and its inhabitant “Arameans.” hence the language they spoke came to be known as ‘Aramaic.’ http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesost...y-dr-anu-mauro/ Possibly from the bolded names it refers to the settling of Palestine by the Ethiopians (possibly a Phoenician/Ethiopian settlement) which we can see in the myth of Perseus and Andromeda being located at modern day Jaffa (Joffa), the early Greeks of the Perseidae lineage, including Heracles had this background. Nimroud, son of Cush (Ethiopia). Nimrod built the Tower of Babel. Queen Helena...? of Sparta Then it looks to me as if the King list corroborates the Greek myth of Perseus and Andromeda, I see Queen Cassiopeia there... That myth points out the ancient Greeks of the Perseus lineage had Ethiopian blood that derived from a Palestinian area settled by Ethiopians. Interesting, do you know whether the list is borne out of Greek source material or does it emerge directly from Ethiopia,. sorry I realise this may already be explained but Im actually finding the list itself a bit tricky to read clearly. Ive been studying geneologies at uni recently, but its been almost entirely anglo-saxon kings tracing their roots back to adam via Woden (which is bizarre in itself), anyway, this makes a nice interesting change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 27, 2009 #8 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Ethiopia is awesome... I mean, Ive never been but the country with its history and people have such a quality that i find irresistable. As soon as i get a chance I will go over and check it out, I think the landscapes of the country and the sentiments of the people there hearken back with echoes to such an early point of humanity, and maybe humanities first verifiable connection with the divine. I dont know why the OP posted this, but cheers, it serves no purpose other than to set my imagination rolling, but for that alone I thank you I found an interesting online book about the history of Ethiopia: http://books.google.nl/books?id=5WisgHYXFb...=result#PPP1,M1 Edited January 27, 2009 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted January 27, 2009 #9 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Ethiopia is awesome... I mean, Ive never been but the country with its history and people have such a quality that i find irresistable. As soon as i get a chance I will go over and check it out, I think the landscapes of the country and the sentiments of the people there hearken back with echoes to such an early point of humanity, and maybe humanities first verifiable connection with the divine. I dont know why the OP posted this, but cheers, it serves no purpose other than to set my imagination rolling, but for that alone I thank you Yes, I feel a bit like that too, I also think it's one of the most possible locations of Atlantis. Shame it's in so much economic trouble and social woe, seems almost ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernkeeper Posted January 27, 2009 #10 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I found an interesting online book about the history of Ethiopia: http://books.google.nl/books?id=5WisgHYXFb...=result#PPP1,M1 Cheers, might take a look at it if i get a chance. There was a good segment about Ethiopia in a show on the bbc, 'around the world in 80 faiths'.. I think its still on the iplayer, worth a watch id say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted January 27, 2009 #11 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Interesting, do you know whether the list is borne out of Greek source material or does it emerge directly from Ethiopia,. sorry I realise this may already be explained but Im actually finding the list itself a bit tricky to read clearly. Ive been studying geneologies at uni recently, but its been almost entirely anglo-saxon kings tracing their roots back to adam via Woden (which is bizarre in itself), anyway, this makes a nice interesting change. The website starts out as such: (written by Haile Selassie 1) LIST OF ETHIOPIAN KINGS by H.I.H. Tafari Makonnen, G.C.B.. G.C.M.G., L.L.D. June 19, 1922 Published in: In The Country of The Blue Nile by C.F. Rey, F.R.G.S., Commander of the Order of the Star of Ethiopia Negro University Press, New York Translation of Covering Letter “May this reach my honourable friend Mr. Rey. Greetings to you. As you ask me to send you the names of the Ethiopian Kings and the history of the Ethiopian Kings of Kings (Emperors), herewith I have taken a copy and send it to you. After the date of these, if you want more, I will write to you. I am very glad that you have asked me about the history of Abyssinia. I hope that your thoughts should be successful in future.” Written on the 11th day of Sane, 1914 at the town of Addis Ababa Interesting as you say for it to not be Greek, that is why I first thought it could be that it indicates a corroboration of the Greek myth. Because it wasn't Greek. Edited January 27, 2009 by The Puzzler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernkeeper Posted January 27, 2009 #12 Share Posted January 27, 2009 LIST OF ETHIOPIAN KINGS by H.I.H. Tafari Makonnen, G.C.B.. G.C.M.G., L.L.D. June 19, 1922 Published in: In The Country of The Blue Nile by C.F. Rey, F.R.G.S., Commander of the Order of the Star of Ethiopia Negro University Press, New York Interesting as you say for it to not be Greek, that is why I first thought it could be that it indicates a corroboration of the Greek myth. Because it wasn't Greek. Cheers for the help, makes it clearer, dont know why i didnt see it before Im just intrigued to know whether Makonnen got his sources, were they greek? biblical? folk stories or a combination of these and others, in that show I mentioned in my last post, there was a guy who lived somewhere in the west bank that was part of the Samaritans, a religion that is best compared to early old testament times judaism (they still sacrifice animals)... Anyway, this dude knew his geneology back to Adam, i think it was 182 generations or so, whether or not it is true it must be amazing to feel such a connection to ones ancestors. It was kind of sad tho, i think there are only 712 samaritans left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legionromanes Posted January 27, 2009 #13 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Cheers for the help, makes it clearer, dont know why i didnt see it before Im just intrigued to know whether Makonnen got his sources, were they greek? biblical? folk stories or a combination of these and others, in that show I mentioned in my last post, there was a guy who lived somewhere in the west bank that was part of the Samaritans, a religion that is best compared to early old testament times judaism (they still sacrifice animals)... Anyway, this dude knew his geneology back to Adam, i think it was 182 generations or so, whether or not it is true it must be amazing to feel such a connection to ones ancestors. It was kind of sad tho, i think there are only 712 samaritans left. do you guys really not know who Makonnen was ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassi...f_Ethiopia#Name theres about as much chance of that list being historically accurate as there is of Tafari Makonnen being the messiah Edited January 27, 2009 by legionromanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Spartan Posted January 27, 2009 #14 Share Posted January 27, 2009 What is the exact purpose of this ethiopian dude to post such a long list?? of course he copy pasted without giving the link to the source which is against the TOS. of course Selassie went around claiming he is the messiah...sorry he didnt save my soul. So Edude, whats the purpose??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted January 27, 2009 #15 Share Posted January 27, 2009 do you guys really not know who Makonnen was ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassi...f_Ethiopia#Name theres about as much chance of that list being historically accurate as there is of Tafari Makonnen being the messiah I just told him it was Haile Selassie. The links between Ethiopia, Greece and the Jews are too many to pass as coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Spartan Posted January 27, 2009 #16 Share Posted January 27, 2009 What Links P?? Selassie's link with Jews is through the mythical connection to solomon and Sheba. No proof exists. If i lay /claim connection to solomon and there is just my word for it, who the hell is going to believe it? The ruling folks in ethiopia wanted a divine royal connection to get some awe, so they coined up this son of solomon thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Lord Posted January 27, 2009 #17 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I had the opportunity to see the obelisk of Axum when it was still in Rome. A compelling piece of art indeed. Ethiopia was home to one of the most surprising civilizations in the African continent. Some of the granite obelisks at Axum are heavier than any other Egyptian obelisk still standing to date and amongst the heaviest stones ever quarried, yet very little is known of the civilization which built them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legionromanes Posted January 27, 2009 #18 Share Posted January 27, 2009 what links ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted January 27, 2009 #19 Share Posted January 27, 2009 What Links P?? Selassie's link with Jews is through the mythical connection to solomon and Sheba. No proof exists. If i lay /claim connection to solomon and there is just my word for it, who the hell is going to believe it? The ruling folks in ethiopia wanted a divine royal connection to get some awe, so they coined up this son of solomon thingy. I'm not even talking about Selassie. Even without Selassie they could still make claims. The connection is back into Biblical times. The Greek myths speak of numerous ancestral links and travels into Ethiopia. I believe Moses marries an Ethiopian (Cushite) woman. http://robtshepherd.tripod.com/falasha.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Rebel Posted January 27, 2009 #20 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Wiki-Link- "The name Ethiopia itself is Greek and means "of burned face".[1] It is first attested in the Homeric epics but it is unlikely to have referred to any particular nation, but rather, to people of Sub-Saharan African descent in general. The Greek community in Ethiopia is first attested by the presence of craftsmen and sailors in the 18th century (1740) in what was then Abyssinia and played a part in facilitating commerce between the country and Europe.[2][3] The community saw its heyday in the early part of the 20th century with the establishment of the Holy Metropolis of Axum by the Patriarchate of Alexandria in 1908 and of the Greek organizations in Addis Ababa (1918) and Dire Dawa (1921)." Ancients Greeks do mention Ethiopia a few times throughout mythology. "Andromeda is the Ethiopian princess who Perseus rescued and married. She became queen of Mycenae and after her death a constellation and galaxy were named after her." "Andromeda's mother Cassiopea was extremely proud of her own beauty (and this is practically all we know about her). So strong was the pride of this Ethiopian queen that she could not help comparing her beauty with that of the immortal Nereids boasting of being better than they all. For this reason the Nereids were angry and Poseidon sharing their wrath sent a flood and a sea-monster to ravage the land." "King Cepheus was reluctant to sacrifice his own daughter to the beast but the despondence of the Ethiopians compelled him to do so. For kings wishing very much to be liked by their subjects not seldom obey the irrational pressures of the populace. So King Laomedon of Troy exposed his daughter Hesione to a monster so that she would pay for his own frauds and Agamemnon performed a similar deed when he let his daughter Iphigenia be sacrificed at Aulis." Edited January 27, 2009 by Unknown Rebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Spartan Posted January 27, 2009 #21 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The only connection Ethiopia has with israel is through The Beta Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted January 27, 2009 #22 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Let's find out what the point is... Here's where the list comes from: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesost...ile-selassie-i/ So the OP doesn't understand three basic TOS: don't re-publish other people's works without proper citation, don't cut and paste huge swaths of texts and don't start threads without an obvious point. --Jaylemurph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted January 27, 2009 #23 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The only connection Ethiopia has with israel is through The Beta Israel. Not necessarily. It is just the most common thought, for now. If a kingdom of Ethiopia was in Palestine near Jaffa, (as the Perseus myth states) I'd say the connection was there, they may even be the originators of the religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernkeeper Posted January 27, 2009 #24 Share Posted January 27, 2009 do you guys really not know who Makonnen was ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassi...f_Ethiopia#Name theres about as much chance of that list being historically accurate as there is of Tafari Makonnen being the messiah Ah, I did not realise that Makonnen was the same dude as Haile Selassi, it all falls into place a bit clearer now. Yeah, I dont expect it to be historically accurate, possibly it might work as a metaphorical list of peoples or nations. im just wondering whether the list was concocted solely by Selassi or if he based it on other previously existing documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernkeeper Posted January 27, 2009 #25 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) The only connection Ethiopia has with israel is through The Beta Israel. umm, im not sure about that, I remember hearing that the biblical land of Ophir was usually equated roughly to the same geographical area as Ethiopia heres a wiki page for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophir#Location oh yeah, i almost forgot, Sheba too I believe is often equated with Ethiopia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheba Edited January 27, 2009 by Wyvernkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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